BIG Problem with Debian 3.0 / Bootloader / PowerMac 7500/100
Hi!
Well, o.k.! I Know, this is an english Mail list. Unfurtunately I'm not
as good in english as a should to describe my problem. If anyone can
understand the german language, it's better to have a look at the
"debian-user-german" mailing-list ("DICKES Problem mit Debain-Bootloader
für PowerPC (Mac)"), where I wrote to several hours ago. This is a try
of translation:
I fucked up my system!
Problem: I ain't got no root-password for my (old-world) apple powermac
7500/100, but this debian 3.0 with the missing password is the only
(bootable) OS on the mac's harddisc. This is how the story goes:
I installed the install program with a floppy disc. Every time, the
program asked for the keyboard layout (and I gave an answer), the
keyboard messed up. The letters and funktion keys all weren't at their
place or no more on the keyboard. Though I managed to get along with the
installing procedure - I noticed that I could use "R" for tab and "F5"
for enter. I finally got to the password-input. I tried to cancel this
input and several times I tried to input nothing, but I failed. With
that messed up keyboard I had no chance to input a combination of
letters that I could reproduce. So I reset the machine.
Then I tried to skip the "keyboard layout" and my keyboard worked fine!
I skipped some other parts of the installation e.g. the partitioning of
the harddisc. Unfortunately I must have skipped the input of the
root-password as well, cause the install program didn't ask for it any
more. Eventually I agreed installing the bootloader (I thought it was
named "quick") and rebooted.
Now, I'm in a mess! I certainly got a system that's booting completely,
but I haven't got a password! Over and above that, the computer refuses
to boot from cd or floppy?! But: why? Before I installed Linux, my apple
did ask for a install-disk if there was no harddisc to boot with!
I don't know a thing about the boot-loader (I'm even not sure about the
name) and I don't know anything about Linux on a Mac! The bootloader
somehow seems to be written in the flash-rom of the motherboard. As a
matter of fact the computer refuses ANY service (except the starting
sound). Only, if I have all the harddiscs running, the computer boots,
but it boots the system I can't use!!! HHH!
On the debian support-pages I found nothing about this bootloader. But I
do believe, there's always way to start a rescue-system or another
boot-floppy on a linux-system, at least. The question is how!
Can anyone tell me more about this botloader?
Is there any HowTo for my problem?
Can I reactivate the original apple-bootloader?
Thanks a lot for those people, who want to help me!
Mitsch
Re: Re: BIG Problem with Debian 3.0 / Bootloader / PowerMac 7500/100
> Macs can usually be tricked into booting off other media (such as an > install CD, floppy or even a MacOS CD) by holding down a key > combination > during boot (i.e press power and then press and hold the key > combination > until you see your desired effect) > > c (for CDROM) > Apple-Option-Shift-Delete (scan for other media) > Option (just to be weird, some macs seem to accept this too) That's the usual behaviour of an Apple Macintosh with Mac OS on it. That's right. But now on this Mac, where I installed Debian Linux with this $%&§!-Bootloader, it doesn't work any more! That's why I think, this Bootloader was written into the BIOS or whatever. O.K., I'm not really sure about it, but before I installed the new OS, there was ALWAYS a smiling mac or a floppy appearing on the screen BEFORE loading any OS. Even with the install-floppy of debian this startup screen appeared. Mitsch
debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org
Hi!
Can't get my Apple 7500/100 ("TNT"-Motherboard with onboard
graphic-adapter) work with XFree86. Can't find any technical details
in the Internet about my Computer and the graphic-card. Anyone who
knows, how to configure X to be started properly? Maybe there's someone
who has got a 7500/100, too: Hey, why don't you just send me your hole
XF86Config!?! That'll be cool!
Greetings
Mitsch
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Hallihallo!
Na, da bin ich doch sicherlich richtig bei Euch! Wenn Ihr schon in der
Mailing-Liste von Debian rumwuselt, dann habt Ihr das ja bestimmt schon
auf Euerm Rechner. Soweit bin ich mit meinem
Apple PowerPC 7500/100
zwar auch, er macht aber noch keinen richtigen Spaß, da ich XF86 nicht
zum laufen krieg ("No device found"). Ziemlich ärgerlich, aber
andererseits kein Wunder: Schließlich hab ich keine Ahnung, was sich in
meinem Mac für Innereien befinden! Ich hab das ganze Netz nach
aufschlußreichen Daten durchforstet, hab aber nichts erhellendes z.B.
über meine Graphikkarte in Erfahrung bringen können. Schön, ich weiß daß
4 MB Speicher drauf sind, aber welchen Hersteller (eine Info-Seite für
alte Macs meinte "Sierra") und was fürn RAMDAC und so Scherze. Woher
soll ich'n das wissen!? Jedenfalls hat "VGA" nicht funktioiniert, aber
wer weiß, ob das jetzt wirklich daran gelegen hat...?
Sicherlich gibt es doch den ein oder anderen Debian for PPC-User, der
mir da weiterhelfen kann. Am coolsten wäre natürlich, ich bekäme gleich
die ganze XF86Config von demjenigen - Schließlich ist mein Apple ein
ganz gewöhnlicher 7500/100: Keine Erweiterungskarte, kein
Prozessorupgrade, alles original Apple! Es gingen - denke ich - auch
andere Macs mit dem "TNT"-Motherboard...
Thanks an alle!
Mitsch
I'm bitterly sorry!
Don't know what happened with my last request, but let me tell you, I didn't want to spam the mailing list with that real BIG subject! SORRY FOR THIS! Mitsch
X with horizontal shift
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Hi, there! First, the good news. My 7500/100 PowerMac, accelerated with a G4-Card, only boots with Linux. The BIOS doesn't recognize any harddisk or cd-rom if the g4-card is plugged, just floppys. Think, it's the OpenFirmware's fault... (good work, Apple!) The Basic Debian-System (Woody 3.0r1) is installed, but quik can't be installed. Don't know why, but installation ends with an error-message: "Quik installation failed, you can't boot without a bootdisk!" Fortunately, the debian-installer-program can't create a bootfloppy on powerpc-machines, you know. Now my question: Are there any boot-floppy-images (anywhere in the internet) that can boot my debian-system with the 2.4.18-kernel on /dev/sdb1? If not, how canI create it myself? Am I able to mount f. e. the 1st installation floppy on my AMD-PC with SuSE8.2 (not Mac-System!!!) for editing the boot-variables (kernel, root-partition, etc...)? If yes, how? Thanks a lot! Mitsch
