Re: nVidia-PPC-Linux drivers

2003-05-02 Thread Julian Scheel


Am Freitag, 02.05.03, um 12:11 Uhr (Europe/Berlin) schrieb José 
Salavert Torres:



El Jueves, 1 de Mayo de 2003 13:23, Julian Scheel escribió:
I think that everyone in the list should sing the petition and I think 
that
this e-mail should be posted in debian-user and other linux 
distributions and
user groups lists. This must be signed by every linux user, because 
linux is
a multiplatform system and everyone (Nvidia included) should 
understand this.


I think this is a good idea. It would be nice, if you (or someone else 
who is on the lists) could post the info on the other mailinglists, so 
that I don't have to join all these lists.




Re: nVidia-PPC-Linux drivers

2003-05-02 Thread Julian Scheel
Am Freitag, 02.05.03, um 21:23 Uhr (Europe/Berlin) schrieb Orion  
Buckminster Montoya:


I have to say, that I can understand this, because the specs, which  
are
needed to develop drivers are that detailed, that another company  
could

get detailed informations about how the chips work form this specs and
adapt them to their own developments.


I know this is the fear, but as far as I know it rarely happens in
practice.  Has anyone ever done this on a large scale?


The only graphics-chipset manufacturer who releases the specs of it's  
chips is afaik ATI, and they only release the specs of outdated  
chipsets, because they are also worried about the technological infos  
in the specs.
I don't think that such specs are detailed enough to rebuild a chip  
from this info - which would cause many low-price copies of high-end  
chipsets by small companies - but I think that it is possible to  
recognize especially the system which is used to use the  
high-performance operations of the chipsets. And these are the most  
interesting information for the competitors.





I'm really angry about people who say that everything has to be
free, else it's bad. You have to recognize that opensource isn't a
good solution for everything and everyone. Sometimes it is not a
well idea to use opensource-licensing for software.


I understand that not everyone feels the way I do.  And after reading
your message I decided to sign the petition.  But for me, and the way
I've decided to live my life, I would rather have no graphics at all
than have a binary-only driver.  And since there is a Free driver that
does enough to show me my window manager, I'll never use a proprietary
binary.


I accept it, if someone wants do to it this way, but I never would do  
it this way, because my main interest is to get the things working, I  
need.
And if there is no open way to get these things working I have no  
problem with going a non-open way - as long as I am sure that the used  
source works almost stable and don't does things I don't want it to do  
(like microsoft-code does).



But I read someone that an Broadcom 802.11g driver for Linux is in
work and will be released sometime in the mid-summer.


Ooh, I hadn't heard this.  Do you mean that people are writing a
driver that will be Free, or that Broadcom is going to release a
binary?


I read it here:  
http://returntonature.com/pipermail/linux-sony/2003-February/003247.html


I bet the drivers will be closed source. Because opensource drivers  
won't be far away from releasing specs which Broadcom seems to never do.

But we'll see.


Best regards,
Julian



nVidia-PPC-Linux drivers

2003-05-01 Thread Julian Scheel
Hi all,

I just started a petition for nVidia-PPC-Linux drivers. I use a PowerBook 12" 
with Linux which uses an nVidia 420 Go-chipset, with many cool features, but 
due a lack of good drivers (nv is fine, if you only what to have basic 
functionality - but hardware acceleration or VGA/S-VHS-Out are to much for 
them) it isn't real fun to use Linux on the PowerBook.
So if you have the same problem, help and sign at 
http://www.PetitionOnline.com/nvppclin/petition.html to get nVidia to support 
PPC with their drivers.

-- 
Grüße,
Julian