Re: PowerPC buildd is looking for a new home
Sven Luther wrote: > But the DSA team have refused to even consider those augsbourg machines, > probably because they where overloaded, and unwilling to share the work, > a bit like it is happening with the arm or sparc ports, where new > hardware was proposed, but ignored or rejected. Thanks Sven for accusing us without reason. The DSA team does not add random machines. There is no ppc64 port, there is no need for ppc64 machines, there are powerpc build daemons and there's a powerpc porter machine which is not overloaded. Thus, no need for more machines, thus no more machines will be added. See the debian-release list from last year when I asked about the need for these machines (or was it 2005?) Regards, Joey -- A mathematician is a machine for converting coffee into theorems. Paul Erdös Please always Cc to me when replying to me on the lists. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PowerPC buildd is looking for a new home
Sven Luther wrote: > > The DSA team does not add random machines. There is no ppc64 port, > > there is no need for ppc64 machines, there are powerpc build daemons > > and there's a powerpc porter machine which is not overloaded. Thus, > > no need for more machines, thus no more machines will be added. > > I had intentions to work on the powerpc64 port, either in multiarch or > biarch way, and i told you this back then. Naturally, this got all lost > in the witch hunt against me which started in early 2006. It remains > that witout a powerpc64 buildd, no powerpc64 port is possible. That's all fine and dandy, but for your personal pet project you don't need machines sponsored to the Debian project, maintained by the Debian project and stuff. As you said, you own a G5 your own, so you can work on it. As long as there's no perspective for powerpc64 to be included in the archive, there is no need for a buildd running on .debian.org hardware maintained by debian.org. If it's your pet project, feel free to work on it, maintain as many machines as you like, talk to sponsors and bandwidth donators as you like. This is not the business of the Debian project. > > See the debian-release list from last year when I asked about > > the need for these machines (or was it 2005?) > > And if i remember well, i replied to it. maybe not on debian-release, > not sure, but i remember perfectly two occasions where i mentioned that, > once was when i contacted DSA originally, and you replied quite angrily > a "do you not think we have enough work to do without adding another > needless buildd" (from memory, paraphrased, and probably a bit > exagerated, so don't go balistic for it), and a second time when i > replied to some some list post which may or not have been the one you > speak about. I even volunteered to join DSA if it was needed with the > express purpose to manage that machine, so it would not cause extra > load. See the "needless buildd" tag above? This still stands. We're not adding random machines just for the fun of it. If you want to do that, start your own machinepark.org project. > Notice that the augsbourg machines are a complicated thingy, where > martin michlmair, then DD, did some negotiations with IBM without even > consulting the debian powerpc porters, and they ended up thinking they > donated those three augsbourg quad power5 to debian, while in fact they > did go to the augsbourg univrsity and we only discovered ways later > about it, together with probably the gnomicus or whoever that was > involvement in the matter, which was the context in which my demand on > the DSA team about those machines happened. So? Regards, Joey -- Reading is a lost art nowadays. -- Michael Weber Please always Cc to me when replying to me on the lists. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PowerPC buildd is looking for a new home
Sven Luther wrote: > But basically, you are telling me that i should take my server, and fork > debian. Well, i guess given how i have been handled lately, i am > seriously considering this. The debian infrastructure guys probably need > some serious competition in order to be kept agile :) If you want to start a new port - and powerpc64 being one - that's the way to go. > Ok, where is the debian powerpc64 machine, which is needed for the > multiarch powerpc port ? Where is the official multiarch powerpc port that needs a Debian powerpc64 machine? Regards, Joey -- Reading is a lost art nowadays. -- Michael Weber Please always Cc to me when replying to me on the lists. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PowerPC buildd is looking for a new home
Sven Luther wrote: > > > Ok, where is the debian powerpc64 machine, which is needed for the > > > multiarch powerpc port ? > > > > Where is the official multiarch powerpc port that needs a Debian > > powerpc64 machine? > > Well, there is andreas jochens pure-ppc64 effort eating loads of space on > alioth for example, does that count ? No. Regards, Joey -- Reading is a lost art nowadays. -- Michael Weber -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PowerPC buildd is looking for a new home
Sven Luther wrote: > On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 10:30:55AM +0200, Joey Schulze wrote: > > Sven Luther wrote: > > > > > Ok, where is the debian powerpc64 machine, which is needed for the > > > > > multiarch powerpc port ? > > > > > > > > Where is the official multiarch powerpc port that needs a Debian > > > > powerpc64 machine? > > > > > > Well, there is andreas jochens pure-ppc64 effort eating loads of space on > > > alioth for example, does that count ? > > > > No. > > Why not ? Because the sky is not violet today. Regards, Joey -- Reading is a lost art nowadays. -- Michael Weber -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
