Trouble installing on iBook G4
Hello PowerPC Debian users, I just installed the latest stable Debian iso on my iBook G4, but the grub bootloader install failed during the installation. When I boot, I get the grub prompt. I've been trying to follow the instructions at posts like this one: https://superuser.com/questions/1237684/how-to-boot-from-grub-shell but the output ls gives me a ton of ieee devices and there's some weird glitch with GRUB where once I get a third way down the screen the text starts printing on top of existing text, so I can't see what I'm doing so I have to reboot and start over. Anyways, I'm guessing someone has probably had this same issue with this port before and that the powerpc port differs from x86 linux in this regard, so I thought I'd just ask the mailing list. Can anyone offer advice? -- Sincerely, Cedar Maxwell
Re: Trouble installing on iBook G4
Hello Adrian, Thank you for your reply. Here is the link to the image I used: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/12.0/powerpc . Following K's suggestion, I looked back through the mailing list. I didn't find the solution there, but elsewhere, on Google, I found the solution to GRUB not installing was to have the Ethernet hooked up during installation. I reinstalled and I appear to have a mostly functional system, with some quirks. I think perhaps my first installation didn't get wiped, although I was quite certain the installer said it was formatting the disk. When I boot I get the GRUB menu fine, but I have to select Advanced Options because otherwise the system crashes to Open Firmware with the following message: Error: You can't boot a kdump kernel from OF! Invalid memory access at %SRR0: 032c04a4 %SRR1: 00023030. Then, in Advanced Options, I have two versions listed, 6.10.7 and 6.1.0-9. I have to pick 6.1.0-9 otherwise I get the above crash message. But once I get past that, I have a working desktop! When I try to run apt update && apt upgrade, I get the following: "Warning: Skipping acquire of configured file 'main/source/Sources' as repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian-ports sid inRelease' does not seem to prove it (sources.list entry misspelt?)" Perhaps this is related to why so many packages are broken or have unmet and uninstallable dependencies? For instance, LibreOffice (preinstalled) can't be launched because it has a bunch of unmet dependencies which can't be installed. During installation, the installer complained that I was "Missing firmware files b43/ucode5.fw b43-open/ucode5.fw" I tried installing firmware-b43-installer, but the package doesn't exist. Most information I found online about this appears to be outdated, or suggested that I would have to compile the drivers from source. But where even is the source? lspci recognizes my graphics card (AMD/ATI Radeon Mobility 9550) but judging by the performance it looks like I'm stuck in software rendering. All the answers online I found said that graphics drivers haven't been available in several years. Is this still the case? For reference, my iBook G4's identifier is PowerBook 6,7. 12" model, 1.33GHz, 1.5GB RAM. I appreciate your hard work and dedication to this old platform. On 9/5/24 15:33, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Hello Cedar, On Thu, 2024-09-05 at 14:16 -0500, Cedar Maxwell wrote: I just installed the latest stable Debian iso on my iBook G4, but the grub bootloader install failed during the installation. When I boot, I get the grub prompt. Please provide the URL of the installation image that you used to install this machine. Not all images work properly on Apple PowerMac. I am planning to create new installation images in the near future. Adrian -- Sincerely, Cedar Maxwell
Re: Please test the latest installation images
Hello Adrian, Thank you for creating new images. I tested debian-12.0.0-powerpc-NETINST-1.iso <https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/snapshots/2024-10-10/debian-12.0.0-powerpc-NETINST-1.iso> on my iBook G4 (PowerBook 6,7) and after selecting "Default install" at the GRUB menu, it loaded for a while then panicked and gave the following error: [0.00]ftrace-powerpc: 0xc03f8304: expected (6000) != found (455f3131) The same also occurs with "Automated install". On 10/20/24 14:41, tal...@coyoterave.net wrote: Hi Adrian, I am running a PowerMac G5 Quad 2.5 GHz (late 2005), 6 GB of RAM, NVIDIA NV43 (GeForce 6600). I am able to get through the installer select screen when booting from CD, however after kicking the CPUs and saying it's done bringing them up, it will hang immediately and spin up the fans after a few moments. After selecting expert mode: smp_core99_probe smp_core99_kick_cpu smp_core99_kick_cpu done smp_core99_kick_cpu smp_core99_kick_cpu done smp_core99_kick_cpu smp_core99_kick_cpu done smp_core99_bringup_done Is as far as it gets. System is in a functional state and was running before today with kernel 6.10.12-1 ppc64, and after updating today on kernel 6.11.2-1 ppc64. Thanks, Talija On Sun, Oct 20, 2024 at 08:34:51PM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Hello, I created updated installation images for Debian Ports earlier this month and I would be very interested to know whether these work on real hardware. The reason I ask is because during my tests, the kernel got stuck directly after booting from CD on QEMU while the installed system later on boots just fine even with the latest kernel. Images are found here: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/snapshots/2024-10-10/ It would be good to test on as many different setups as possible to help localize the problem. I don't rule out that it might be a problem with the CD image creation process. Thanks, Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer `. `' Physicist `-GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913 -- Sincerely, Cedar Maxwell
Re: Please test the latest installation images
Hello Adrian, I'm not sure how to take a screenshot. I can take a photo later. I tried this image: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/12.0/powerpc/ and it works. On 10/21/24 01:34, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Hi Cedar, On Sun, 2024-10-20 at 22:38 -0500, Cedar Maxwell wrote: Thank you for creating new images. I tested debian-12.0.0-powerpc-NETINST-1.iso on my iBook G4 (PowerBook 6,7) and after selecting "Default install" at the GRUB menu, it loaded for a while then panicked and gave the following error: [0.00]ftrace-powerpc: 0xc03f8304: expected (6000) != found (455f3131) Hmm, I don't think this is actually the reason why it doesn't boot. Could you maybe take a screenshot? The same also occurs with "Automated install". Does the installed system work when using an older installation image? Adrian -- Sincerely, Cedar Maxwell
Re: Trouble installing on iBook G4
Hello Adrian, I should have been more accurate when I wrote Debian "doesn't detect it at all". Attached are the outputs of some relevant commands. So, looks like the hardware is detected just fine, but NetworkManager won't start. Any ideas? On 9/20/24 01:06, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Hi, On Thu, 2024-09-19 at 22:49 -0500, Cedar Maxwell wrote: Great, which one is the proper image? Sorry, I was too busy and forgot looking for the recommended image. I went ahead and tried this one:https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/current/ The Ethernet worked during the installation, but afterwards Debian doesn't detect it at all. You might be missing firmware here that you have to install. Did you try booting into an older kernel from GRUB? I would assume that the installer installed both the older kernel version from CD as well as the latest kernel from the repositories. Adrian -- Sincerely, Cedar Maxwell processor : 0 cpu : 7447A, altivec supported clock : 1333.333000MHz revision: 1.2 (pvr 8003 0102) bogomips: 73.72 timebase: 18432000 platform: PowerMac model : PowerBook6,7 machine : PowerBook6,7 motherboard : PowerBook6,7 MacRISC3 Power Macintosh detected as : 287 (iBook G4) pmac flags : 001a L2 cache: 512K unified pmac-generation : NewWorld Memory : 1536 MB 1: lo: mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1000 link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever inet6 ::1/128 scope host noprefixroute valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever 2: enP2p0s15f0: mtu 1500 qdisc fq_codel state UP group default qlen 1000 link/ether 00:14:51:0b:62:0e brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff inet6 fe80::214:51ff:fe0b:620e/64 scope link proto kernel_ll valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever Oct 23 03:46:38 cedar-ibook-g4 systemd[1]: Starting NetworkManager.service - Network Manager... ░░ Subject: A start job for unit NetworkManager.service has begun execution ░░ Defined-By: systemd ░░ Support: https://www.debian.org/support ░░ ░░ A start job for unit NetworkManager.service has begun execution. ░░ ░░ The job identifier is 128. Oct 23 03:46:42 cedar-ibook-g4 NetworkManager[519]: /usr/sbin/NetworkManager: symbol lookup error: /lib/powerpc-linux-gnu/libcurl-gnutls.so.4: undefined symbol: GSS_C_NT_HOSTBASED_SERVICE Oct 23 03:46:42 cedar-ibook-g4 systemd[1]: NetworkManager.service: Main process exited, code=exited, status=127/n/a ░░ Subject: Unit process exited ░░ Defined-By: systemd ░░ Support: https://www.debian.org/support ░░ ░░ An ExecStart= process belonging to unit NetworkManager.service has exited. ░░ ░░ The process' exit code is 'exited' and its exit status is 127. Oct 23 03:46:42 cedar-ibook-g4 systemd[1]: NetworkManager.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'. ░░ Subject: Unit failed ░░ Defined-By: systemd ░░ Support: https://www.debian.org/support ░░ ░░ The unit NetworkManager.service has entered the 'failed' state with result 'exit-code'. Oct 23 03:46:42 cedar-ibook-g4 systemd[1]: Failed to start NetworkManager.service - Network Manager. ░░ Subject: A start job for unit NetworkManager.service has failed ░░ Defined-By: systemd ░░ Support: https://www.debian.org/support ░░ ░░ A start job for unit NetworkManager.service has finished with a failure. ░░ ░░ The job identifier is 128 and the job result is failed. Oct 23 03:46:42 cedar-ibook-g4 systemd[1]: NetworkManager.service: Scheduled restart job, restart counter is at 1. ░░ Subject: Automatic restarting of a unit has been scheduled ░░ Defined-By: systemd ░░ Support: https://www.debian.org/support ░░ ░░ Automatic restarting of the unit NetworkManager.service has been scheduled, as the result for ░░ the configured Restart= setting for the unit. Oct 23 03:46:42 cedar-ibook-g4 systemd[1]: Starting NetworkManager.service - Network Manager... ░░ Subject: A start job for unit NetworkManager.service has begun execution ░░ Defined-By: systemd ░░ Support: https://www.debian.org/support ░░ ░░ A start job for unit NetworkManager.service has begun execution. ░░ ░░ The job identifier is 872. Oct 23 03:46:42 cedar-ibook-g4 NetworkManager[551]: /usr/sbin/NetworkManager: symbol lookup error: /lib/powerpc-linux-gnu/libcurl-gnutls.so.4: undefined symbol: GSS_C_NT_HOSTBASED_SERVICE Oct 23 03:46:42 cedar-ibook-g4 systemd[1]: NetworkManager.service: Main process exited, code=exited, status=127/n/a ░░ Subject: Unit process exited ░░ Defined-By: systemd ░░ Support: https://www.debian.org/support ░░ ░░ An ExecStart= process belonging to unit NetworkManager.service has exited. ░░ ░░ The process' exit code is 'exited' and its exit status is 127. Oct 23 03:46:42 cedar-ibook-g4 systemd[1]: NetworkManager.service: Failed with
iBook G4 can't start NetworkManager
Hello all, I just installed Debian on my iBook G4 using the latest iso from February 25th. The Ethernet worked during the installer, but afterwards I can't establish an internet connection. It appears NetworkManager refuses to start (is this service even necessary to establish a network connection, or am I trodden down the wrong path?). From lspci it appears Debian detects the Ethernet controller just fine. Attached are the outputs of some relevant commands. Please advise. -- Sincerely, Cedar Maxwell processor : 0 cpu : 7447A, altivec supported clock : 1333.333000MHz revision: 1.2 (pvr 8003 0102) bogomips: 73.72 timebase: 18432000 platform: PowerMac model : PowerBook6,7 machine : PowerBook6,7 motherboard : PowerBook6,7 MacRISC3 Power Macintosh detected as : 287 (iBook G4) pmac flags : 001a L2 cache: 512K unified pmac-generation : NewWorld Memory : 1536 MB 1: lo: mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1000 link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever inet6 ::1/128 scope host noprefixroute valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever 2: enP2p0s15f0: mtu 1500 qdisc fq_codel state UP group default qlen 1000 link/ether 00:14:51:0b:62:0e brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff inet6 fe80::214:51ff:fe0b:620e/64 scope link proto kernel_ll valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever Oct 23 03:46:38 cedar-ibook-g4 systemd[1]: Starting NetworkManager.service - Network Manager... ░░ Subject: A start job for unit NetworkManager.service has begun execution ░░ Defined-By: systemd ░░ Support: https://www.debian.org/support ░░ ░░ A start job for unit NetworkManager.service has begun execution. ░░ ░░ The job identifier is 128. Oct 23 03:46:42 cedar-ibook-g4 NetworkManager[519]: /usr/sbin/NetworkManager: symbol lookup error: /lib/powerpc-linux-gnu/libcurl-gnutls.so.4: undefined symbol: GSS_C_NT_HOSTBASED_SERVICE Oct 23 03:46:42 cedar-ibook-g4 systemd[1]: NetworkManager.service: Main process exited, code=exited, status=127/n/a ░░ Subject: Unit process exited ░░ Defined-By: systemd ░░ Support: https://www.debian.org/support ░░ ░░ An ExecStart= process belonging to unit NetworkManager.service has exited. ░░ ░░ The process' exit code is 'exited' and its exit status is 127. Oct 23 03:46:42 cedar-ibook-g4 systemd[1]: NetworkManager.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'. ░░ Subject: Unit failed ░░ Defined-By: systemd ░░ Support: https://www.debian.org/support ░░ ░░ The unit NetworkManager.service has entered the 'failed' state with result 'exit-code'. Oct 23 03:46:42 cedar-ibook-g4 systemd[1]: Failed to start NetworkManager.service - Network Manager. ░░ Subject: A start job for unit NetworkManager.service has failed ░░ Defined-By: systemd ░░ Support: https://www.debian.org/support ░░ ░░ A start job for unit NetworkManager.service has finished with a failure. ░░ ░░ The job identifier is 128 and the job result is failed. Oct 23 03:46:42 cedar-ibook-g4 systemd[1]: NetworkManager.service: Scheduled restart job, restart counter is at 1. ░░ Subject: Automatic restarting of a unit has been scheduled ░░ Defined-By: systemd ░░ Support: https://www.debian.org/support ░░ ░░ Automatic restarting of the unit NetworkManager.service has been scheduled, as the result for ░░ the configured Restart= setting for the unit. Oct 23 03:46:42 cedar-ibook-g4 systemd[1]: Starting NetworkManager.service - Network Manager... ░░ Subject: A start job for unit NetworkManager.service has begun execution ░░ Defined-By: systemd ░░ Support: https://www.debian.org/support ░░ ░░ A start job for unit NetworkManager.service has begun execution. ░░ ░░ The job identifier is 872. Oct 23 03:46:42 cedar-ibook-g4 NetworkManager[551]: /usr/sbin/NetworkManager: symbol lookup error: /lib/powerpc-linux-gnu/libcurl-gnutls.so.4: undefined symbol: GSS_C_NT_HOSTBASED_SERVICE Oct 23 03:46:42 cedar-ibook-g4 systemd[1]: NetworkManager.service: Main process exited, code=exited, status=127/n/a ░░ Subject: Unit process exited ░░ Defined-By: systemd ░░ Support: https://www.debian.org/support ░░ ░░ An ExecStart= process belonging to unit NetworkManager.service has exited. ░░ ░░ The process' exit code is 'exited' and its exit status is 127. Oct 23 03:46:42 cedar-ibook-g4 systemd[1]: NetworkManager.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'. ░░ Subject: Unit failed ░░ Defined-By: systemd ░░ Support: https://www.debian.org/support ░░ ░░ The unit NetworkManager.service has entered the 'failed' state with result 'exit-code'. Oct 23 03:46:42 cedar-ibook-g4 systemd[1]: Failed to start NetworkManager.service - Network Manager. ░░ Subject: A start job for unit NetworkManager.service has failed ░░ Defined-By: systemd ░░ Support: https:
Re: Updated Debian Ports installation images 2024-11-11
Hello Adrian, root@ibook-g4:/home/cedar# apt install xserver-xorg-core Some packages could not be installed ... ... Unsatisfied dependencies: xserver-xorg-core: Depends: xserver-common(>= 2:21.1.14-2) but 2:21.1.14-1 is to be installed. I am unable to update xserver-common and, correct me if I'm wrong, therefore cannot start a graphical environment. On 11/12/24 17:16, Cedar Maxwell wrote: Hello Adrian, I successfully installed on my iBook G4 (PowerBook 6,7) using this image. On 11/11/24 11:23, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Hello, I have created a fresh set of ISO installation images for the following Debian Ports architectures: - alpha - hppa - loong64 - powerpc - ppc64 - sparc64 The images can be downloaded from the usual location at [1]. This batch includes the very first installation image for loong64. It has not been tested at all, so I'm looking forward to any feedback from testers. The images for powerpc and ppc64 are still not expected to work due to Debian bug #1085949 [2]. Luckily, IBM engineers have been able to reproduce the bug on ppc64el as well, so we can expect a fix in the near future. For m68k, it's currently harder to build installation images due to more packages requiring 4-byte alignment and the m68k developers still not having agreed on finally making the switch from 2-byte to 4-byte alignment. Adrian [1]https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/snapshots/2024-11-11/ [2]https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1085949 -- Sincerely, Cedar Maxwell -- Sincerely, Cedar Maxwell
Re: Updated Debian Ports installation images 2024-11-11
Hello Adrian, I successfully installed on my iBook G4 (PowerBook 6,7) using this image. On 11/11/24 11:23, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Hello, I have created a fresh set of ISO installation images for the following Debian Ports architectures: - alpha - hppa - loong64 - powerpc - ppc64 - sparc64 The images can be downloaded from the usual location at [1]. This batch includes the very first installation image for loong64. It has not been tested at all, so I'm looking forward to any feedback from testers. The images for powerpc and ppc64 are still not expected to work due to Debian bug #1085949 [2]. Luckily, IBM engineers have been able to reproduce the bug on ppc64el as well, so we can expect a fix in the near future. For m68k, it's currently harder to build installation images due to more packages requiring 4-byte alignment and the m68k developers still not having agreed on finally making the switch from 2-byte to 4-byte alignment. Adrian [1]https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/snapshots/2024-11-11/ [2]https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1085949 -- Sincerely, Cedar Maxwell
Re: Trouble installing on iBook G4
Hello Adrian, Yes, I tried booting into the older kernel from GRUB. In fact, attempting to load the latest kernel from the repositories causes the system to crash back to Open Firmware, as discussed previously. However, you mentioned that all further discussion should be based on a known working image. Does the image I used fit this description? On 9/20/24 01:06, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: I went ahead and tried this one:https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/current/ -- Sincerely, Cedar Maxwell
Re: Trouble installing on iBook G4
Hello Adrian, Great, which one is the proper image? I went ahead and tried this one: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/current/ The Ethernet worked during the installation, but afterwards Debian doesn't detect it at all. On 9/12/24 02:23, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Hi Cedar, On Wed, 2024-09-11 at 16:51 -0500, Cedar Maxwell wrote: Thank you for your reply. Here is the link to the image I used: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/12.0/powerpc That one doesn't work. Let me pick the proper image for you first as further discussions should be based on a known to work image. Adrian -- Sincerely, Cedar Maxwell
Re: Errors were encountered while processing: linux-image-6.12.17-powerpc64
Thank you sir, this solved my problem. Cedar Maxwell On Mon, 2025-07-07 at 19:42 +0100, James Madgwick wrote: > On Sun, 06 Jul 2025 23:05:48 +0200 > John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > > On Sun, 2025-07-06 at 15:06 -0500, Cedar Maxwell wrote: > > > Continue? [Y/n] y > > > (Reading database ... 494570 files and directories currently > > > installed.) > > > Removing linux-image-6.12.17-powerpc64 (6.12.17-1) ... > > > /etc/kernel/postrm.d/initramfs-tools: > > > update-initramfs: Deleting /boot/initrd.img-6.12.17-powerpc64 > > > /etc/kernel/postrm.d/zz-update-grub: > > > /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig: 274: cannot create > > > /boot/grub/grub.cfg.new: > > > Read-only file system > > > > Your HFS boot filesystem has errors and was mounted read-only. > > > > You need to install hfsprogs, umount /boot/grub and then run > > "fsck.hfs /dev/sda2" where (sda2) is the partition of your HFS > > filesystem. (All from memory, please verify the actual paths are > > correct). > > > > There are some bugs in the HFS/HFS+ driver in the Linux kernel > > which > > may have caused this. These bugs are now being worked on by new > > maintainers [1]. > > > > Adrian > > > > > [1] https://github.com/hfs-linux-kernel/hfs-linux-kernel/issues > > I experienced this exact problem yesterday when updating my system. > Adrian's instructions match with the commands I ran (as root) to get > it > fixed: > > umount /boot/grub > apt install hfsprogs > sudo fsck.hfs /dev/sda2 > mount /dev/sda2 /boot/grub -o rw > apt upgrade > > I used `dmesg | tail` to find why remounting with rw didn't work > initially. > > James
Re: Firmware for Broadcom BCM4318 Wireless LAN Controller
Hello, I am facing a similar issue: cedar@ibook-g4:~$ sudo apt install firmware-b43-installer [sudo] password for cedar: Solving dependencies... Error! Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation: Unsatisfied dependencies: firmware-b43-installer : Depends: b43-fwcutter (>= 1:019-14) but 1:019- 12+ports is to be installed Error: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. Error: The following information from --solver 3.0 may provide additional context: Unable to satisfy dependencies. Reached two conflicting decisions: 1. firmware-b43-installer:powerpc=1:019-14 is selected for install 2. firmware-b43-installer:powerpc=1:019-14 Depends b43-fwcutter (>= 1:019-14) but none of the choices are installable: [no choices] cedar@ibook-g4:~$ apt show b43-fwcutter Package: b43-fwcutter Version: 1:019-12+ports Priority: optional Section: contrib/utils Maintainer: Debian QA Group Installed-Size: 113 kB Depends: debconf (>= 0.5) | debconf-2.0, libc6 (>= 2.34) Homepage: https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/drivers/b43 Download-Size: 25.3 kB APT-Manual-Installed: yes APT-Sources: http://deb.debian.org/debian-ports unreleased/main powerpc Packages Description: utility for extracting Broadcom 43xx firmware This package provides a tool for extracting BCM43xx wireless chip firmware from Broadcom's proprietary driver files. . It is used by the firmware-b43(legacy)-installer packages as part of the automated process of downloading and installing firmware. Please advise. Thanks, Cedar Maxwell On Thu, 2024-09-26 at 22:47 +0200, Claudia Neumann wrote: > Hi all, > hi John, > > thanks to the new package b43-fwcutter the wlan works as expected. > Many thanks to John Glaubitz! > > Now I can report, that the iMac G5 works with Debian Trixie/Sid: > > Hardware from hwinfo: > cpu: PPC970FX, altivec supported, 2100 MHz > monitor: Apple Color LCD > graphics card: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV380 > [Radeon X550/X600] > sound: Apple Multimedia audio controller > storage: Broadcom K2 SATA > network: > enP1p3s15f0 Apple Shasta (Sun GEM) > wlan0 Broadcom BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g > Wireless LAN Controller > disk: > /dev/sda WDC WD2500JS-40M > cdrom: > /dev/sr0 MATSHITA DVD-R UJ-846 > usb controller: > NEC USB Controller > NEC USB Controller > NEC uPD72010x USB 2.0 Controller > bridge: > Apple U4 HT Bridge > Apple Shasta PCI Bridge > Apple Shasta PCI Bridge > Apple CPC945 PCIe Bridge > Apple Shasta PCI Bridge > memory: > Main Memory 1GB + 384 MB > firewire controller: > Apple Shasta Firewire > unknown: > DMA controller > PS/2 Controller > Apple Shasta IDE > Apple Shasta Mac I/O > PROM > Apple Built-in iSight (no firmware loaded) > /dev/input/event2 Apple Bluetooth HCI MacBookPro (HID mode) > Apple Built-in IR Receiver > > I took Xfce for window manager. LibreOffice works fine, Firefox gives > a segmentation fault on start. As browser I use links2, not very > comfortable. > > Because I use the iMac only as an thin client I am satisfied with > this. > > @John: If I can help looking for the reason why firefox gives a > segmentation fault, tell me what I should do. Compiling software is > not a problem to me. > > Best regards > > Claudia > > > Am Donnerstag, 26. September 2024, 16:20:06 CEST schrieb John Paul > Adrian Glaubitz: > > On Thu, 2024-09-26 at 15:53 +0200, Steffen Grunewald wrote: > > > > I will build the package manually and upload it to "unreleased" > for both > > > > powerpc and ppc64. It will be available by tonight. > > > > > > Even better! > > > > ;-) > > > > > > You will need to add "unreleased" to your sources.list to use > it: > > > > deb http://ftp.ports.debian.org/debian-ports/ unreleased > main > > > > > > Many thanks for your extremely fast and knowledgeable support, > > > > You're very welcome. I'm always very glad to get such positive >
Errors were encountered while processing: linux-image-6.12.17-powerpc64
Hello everyone, I am experiencing the following errors. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks cedar@Power-Macintosh-G5:~$ sudo apt update [sudo] password for cedar: Get:1 http://deb.debian.org/debian-ports sid InRelease [74.2 kB] Get:2 http://deb.debian.org/debian-ports unreleased InRelease [50.0 kB] Get:3 http://deb.debian.org/debian-ports sid/main ppc64 Packages [17.1 MB] Get:4 http://deb.debian.org/debian-ports sid/contrib ppc64 Packages [49.2 kB] Get:5 http://deb.debian.org/debian-ports sid/non-free-firmware ppc64 Packages [8,000 B] Fetched 17.2 MB in 9s (1,869 kB/s) 42 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them. Warning: Skipping acquire of configured file 'non-free/source/Sources' as repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian-ports sid InRelease' does not seem to provide it (sources.list entry misspelt?) Warning: Skipping acquire of configured file 'non-free- firmware/source/Sources' as repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian-ports sid InRelease' does not seem to provide it (sources.list entry misspelt?) Warning: Skipping acquire of configured file 'main/source/Sources' as repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian-ports sid InRelease' does not seem to provide it (sources.list entry misspelt?) Warning: Skipping acquire of configured file 'contrib/source/Sources' as repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian-ports sid InRelease' does not seem to provide it (sources.list entry misspelt?) cedar@Power-Macintosh-G5:~$ sudo apt upgradae Error: Invalid operation upgradae cedar@Power-Macintosh-G5:~$ sudo apt upgrade Upgrading: ffmpeg grub-ieee1275 libavcodec61 libavutil59 libperl5.40 linux-image-powerpc64 perl-base gcc-12-base grub-ieee1275-bin libavdevice61 libdjvulibre-text libpostproc58 linux-libc-dev perl-doc gimp-datagrub2-common libavfilter10 libdjvulibre21 libswresample5 mobile-broadband-provider-info perl-modules-5.40 grub-common ibus-data libavformat61 libibus-1.0-5 libswscale8 perlpython3-opengl Installing dependencies: linux-image-6.12.35+deb13-powerpc64 Suggested packages: firmware-linux-free linux-doc-6.12 debian-kernel-handbook mkvmlinuz Not upgrading: akonadi-contacts-data bind9-host gedit kajongg kde-config-gtk-style libastro1 libtinysparql-3.0-0 bind9-dnsutils bind9-libs gir1.2-tepl-6 kde-config-cddb kio-audiocd libkf6purpose-data remmina-common REMOVING: linux-image-6.12.17-powerpc64 Summary: Upgrading: 28, Installing: 1, Removing: 1, Not Upgrading: 14 5 not fully installed or removed. Download size: 147 MB Space needed: 56.9 MB / 98.0 GB available Continue? [Y/n] y Get:1 http://deb.debian.org/debian-ports sid/main ppc64 grub2-common ppc64 2.12-9 [985 kB] Get:2 http://deb.debian.org/debian-ports sid/main ppc64 grub-ieee1275 ppc64 2.12-9 [360 kB] Get:3 http://deb.debian.org/debian-ports sid/main ppc64 grub-ieee1275- bin ppc64 2.12-9 [908 kB] Get:4 http://deb.debian.org/debian-ports sid/main ppc64 grub-common ppc64 2.12-9 [3,023 kB] Get:5 http://deb.debian.org/debian-ports sid/main ppc64 linux-image- 6.12.35+deb13-powerpc64 ppc64 6.12.35-1 [80.5 MB] Get:6 http://deb.debian.org/debian-ports sid/main ppc64 linux-image- powerpc64 ppc64 6.12.35-1 [1,428 B] Get:7 http://deb.debian.org/debian-ports sid/main ppc64 libperl5.40 ppc64 5.40.1-5 [4,238 kB] Get:8 http://deb.debian.org/debian-ports sid/main ppc64 perl ppc64 5.40.1-5 [267 kB] Get:9 http://deb.debian.org/debian-ports sid/main ppc64 perl-base ppc64 5.40.1-5 [1,635 kB] Get:10 http://deb.debian.org/debian-ports sid/main ppc64 perl-modules- 5.40 all 5.40.1-5 [3,021 kB] Get:11 http://deb.debian.org/debian-ports sid/main ppc64 libswscale8 ppc64 7:7.1.1-1+b1 [223 kB] Get:12 http://deb.debian.org/debian-ports sid/main ppc64 libavdevice61 ppc64 7:7.1.1-1+b1 [120 kB] Get:13 http://deb.debian.org/debian-ports sid/main ppc64 libavformat61 ppc64 7:7.1.1-1+b1 [1,260 kB] Get:14 http://deb.debian.org/debian-ports sid/main ppc64 libavfilter10 ppc64 7:7.1.1-1+b1 [3,961 kB] Get:15 http://deb.debian.org/debian-ports sid/main ppc64 libavcodec61 ppc64 7:7.1.1-1+b1 [5,961 kB] Get:16 http://deb.debian.org/debian-ports sid/main ppc64 libavutil59 ppc64 7:7.1.1-1+b1 [416 kB] Get:17 http://deb.debian.org/debian-ports sid/main ppc64 libpostproc58 ppc64 7:7.1.1-1+b1 [102 kB]
Re: Firmware for Broadcom BCM4318 Wireless LAN Controller
Adrian: I'm still facing the same problem. Thanks, Cedar Maxwell On Sun, 2025-07-20 at 19:47 +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Hi Cedar, > > On Sun, 2025-07-20 at 12:40 -0500, Cedar Maxwell wrote: > > It looks like this bug is already being tracked here: > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1109025 > > OK, we need to update the package in Debian Ports then. > > Will do that now. Please try again in about 6-9 hours. > > Adrian
Re: Firefox 133 test package for ppc64
Is there any update on fixing Firefox for 32-bit PowerPC? On Sun, 2025-07-06 at 21:37 +0100, James Madgwick wrote: > On Mon, 12 May 2025 09:55:50 -0700 > Ken Cunningham wrote: > > > I had never tried firefox 138 with the MATE desktop before, so > > can't > > know if removing the .mozilla directory was part of the magic or > > not, > > but easy to do. > > > > I suspect removing the .mozilla directory was not the issue, as it > > still crashes with LXDE as below, but as the window now fills in > > with > > an image before the crash using the menus, cannot know with > > certainty. > > For what it's worth, I've just installed 138 and initially a window > appeared but I couldn't interact with any menus or do anything. But > after removing .mozilla I was able to get it working. Based on this, > it > seems clearing that directory is required. > > I've not tried doing much beyond some basic browsing. There are some > graphical glitches, but nothing serious and no crashes. Performance > is > better than I had expected, still pretty slow, but better than any > dual > P4 system of the era would be, and not bad considering this machine > (a > 2004 G5) is over 20 years old.
Re: apm_emu module missing
Adrian: Here's Ed's reply, I missed it in my first review and replied to this old thread out-of-order. It looks like the patch was accepted. Cedar On Fri, 18 Oct 2024 at 09:20, Ed Robbins wrote: > I submitted a kernel patch to fix upower support this morning [1]. > Ed > > [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pm/iofjls.120oj5kjg9...@googlemail.com/T/#u FYI this got accepted to Sebastian Reichel's tree and should appear in 6.13, after that battery and power monitoring for apple laptops should work again. Ed On Wed, 2025-07-23 at 16:48 +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Hello, > > On Wed, 2025-07-23 at 09:39 -0500, Cedar Maxwell wrote: > > Was your patch ever accepted? I am also looking to fix my XFCE > > battery > > monitor. > > Care to post a link to the patch, please? > > Adrian
Re: apm_emu module missing
Hello Riccardo and Ed, Was your patch ever accepted? I am also looking to fix my XFCE battery monitor. Thanks, Cedar On Fri, 2024-10-18 at 11:29 +0200, Riccardo Mottola wrote: > Hi, > > Ed Robbins wrote: > > However if the apm_emu module would be useful for other desktop > > environments I can submit a patch to add it to the default debian > > powerpc kernel config as suggested by Adrian? It appears the > > GNUstep > > battery monitor does support APM. > > GNUstep Battery Monitor supports both ACPI, APM and PMU in that > fallback > order, IIRC. It's my code! > It started as APM many years ago, but that is mostly obsolete. I also > wrote the PMU support, maybe it should be preferred if found? > > But as you write, probably there are few or no monitors left > supporting > APM. I hinted you to batmon to avoid it, if you wish. > > Riccardo >
Re: Firmware for Broadcom BCM4318 Wireless LAN Controller
Hello Adrian: Here is the output: cedar@ibook-g4:/media/cedar/D883-BB83$ sudo apt install firmware-b43- installer=1:019-12+ports firmware-b43-installer is already the newest version (1:019-12+ports). Summary: Upgrading: 0, Installing: 0, Removing: 0, Not Upgrading: 4 1 not fully installed or removed. Space needed: 0 B / 28.7 GB available Continue? [Y/n] y Setting up firmware-b43-installer (1:019-12+ports) ... No chroot environment found. Starting normal installation A card known to work was found. Trying to install classic firmware 5.100.138 . --2025-07-20 17:36:35-- https://www.lwfinger.com/b43-firmware/broadcom-wl-5.100 .138.tar.bz2 Resolving www.lwfinger.com (www.lwfinger.com)... 15.197.172.60 Connecting to www.lwfinger.com (www.lwfinger.com)|15.197.172.60|:443... connecte d. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 114 [text/html] Saving to: ‘broadcom-wl-5.100.138.tar.bz2’ broadcom-wl-5.100.1 100%[===>] 114 --.-KB/sin 0s 2025-07-20 17:36:36 (13.5 MB/s) - ‘broadcom-wl-5.100.138.tar.bz2’ saved [114/114 ] broadcom-wl-5.100.138.tar.bz2: FAILED sha512sum: WARNING: 1 computed checksum did NOT match /var/lib/dpkg/info/firmware-b43-installer.postinst: Downloaded firmware did not match known SHA512 checksum, aborting. dpkg: error processing package firmware-b43-installer (--configure): installed firmware-b43-installer package post-installation script subprocess re turned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing: firmware-b43-installer Error: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) It looks like this bug is already being tracked here: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1109025 Thanks, Cedar Maxwell On Sun, 2025-07-20 at 09:21 +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Hi Cedar, > > On Sat, 2025-07-19 at 19:57 -0500, Cedar Maxwell wrote: > > cedar@ibook-g4:~$ sudo apt install firmware-b43-installer > > [sudo] password for cedar: > > Solving dependencies... Error! > > Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have > > requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable > > distribution that some required packages have not yet been created > > or been moved out of Incoming. > > The following information may help to resolve the situation: > > > > Unsatisfied dependencies: > > firmware-b43-installer : Depends: b43-fwcutter (>= 1:019-14) but > > 1:019-12+ports is to be installed > > Error: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. > > Error: The following information from --solver 3.0 may provide > > additional context: > > Unable to satisfy dependencies. Reached two conflicting > > decisions: > > 1. firmware-b43-installer:powerpc=1:019-14 is selected for > > install > > 2. firmware-b43-installer:powerpc=1:019-14 Depends b43-fwcutter > > (>= 1:019-14) > > but none of the choices are installable: > > [no choices] > > cedar@ibook-g4:~$ apt show b43-fwcutter > > Package: b43-fwcutter > > Version: 1:019-12+ports > > Priority: optional > > Section: contrib/utils > > Maintainer: Debian QA Group > > Installed-Size: 113 kB > > Depends: debconf (>= 0.5) | debconf-2.0, libc6 (>= 2.34) > > Homepage: https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/drivers/b43 > > Download-Size: 25.3 kB > > APT-Manual-Installed: yes > > APT-Sources: http://deb.debian.org/debian-ports unreleased/main > > powerpc Packages > > Description: utility for extracting Broadcom 43xx firmware > > This package provides a tool for extracting BCM43xx wireless chip > > firmware from Broadcom's proprietary driver files. > > . > > It is used by the firmware-b43(legacy)-installer packages as part > > of > > the automated process of downloading and installing firmware. > > > > Please advise. > > Try to explicitly install the version from Debian Ports so that the > package > version of b43-fwcutter and firmware-b43-installer match. > > # apt install firmware-b43-installer=1:019-12+ports > > I'll build and upload an updated version for Debian Ports later. > > Adrian
Re: Firefox 133 test package for ppc64
I found Luakit (in the repo) works very well. It plays YouTube better on my iBook G4 than Firefox does on my PowerMac G5. Yet it has only been mentioned twice ever in this mailing list. Cedar On Tue, 2025-07-22 at 23:33 +1000, Damien Stewart wrote: > On 7/7/25 6:37 am, James Madgwick wrote: > > For what it's worth, I've just installed 138 and initially a window > > appeared but I couldn't interact with any menus or do anything. But > > after removing .mozilla I was able to get it working. Based on > > this, it > > seems clearing that directory is required. > > > That's what I found as well. I recall I found a way to reset profile > and > then it worked. The only obvious flaw is a random looking blue > rectangle > appearing over tabs. If you are patient speedtest.net can actually > work. > What I don't understand is why the profile needs removing or > resetting > since I installed it on a fairly fresh Debian install with a default > FireFox installed. But, given the FireFox I had before crashed on > startup, may have corrupted the default profile. > > > Also, as a bonus, if you still have an older Linux like Ubuntu Xenial > you still like using you can run the latest FireFox! :-P It's not too > hard. So all you need to do is mount your modern Debian Linux or > compatible. Do a chroot to it from terminal. And run firefox as your > user from sudo or logging in. Doesn't need any settings for X and > amazingly opens up a window right on your desktop. One caveat is > downloads will go to the mounted volume. But if you have a shared > home > setup it will make it easier. It's possible it could be automated > with a > nice desktop icon and script or even package, but I was to lazy to do > that yet. :-D >
Re: Firmware for Broadcom BCM4318 Wireless LAN Controller
My problem is now solved, thank you very much sir. Cedar On Tue, 2025-07-22 at 07:29 +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On Mon, 2025-07-21 at 19:58 -0500, Cedar Maxwell wrote: > > I'm still facing the same problem. > > I only pushed the fix for ppc64 yesterday and had to wait for the > archives > to sync several hours. I have pushed the powerpc fix now which will > be > available in a few hours. > > Adrian
bug in grilo-plugins-0.3
When I try to use media players with grilo-plugins (for uPnP support), I receive this message: cedar@ibook-g4:~$ totem (org.gnome.Totem:6704): Grilo-WARNING **: 21:49:31.009: [dleyna] ../src/dleyna/grl-dleyna-servers-manager.c:138: Unable to fetch the list of available servers: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name com.intel.dleyna-server was not provided by any .service files cedar@ibook-g4:~$ rhythmbox (rhythmbox:6780): Grilo-WARNING **: 21:50:36.276: [dleyna] ../src/dleyna/grl-dleyna-servers-manager.c:138: Unable to fetch the list of available servers: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name com.intel.dleyna-server was not provided by any .service files cedar@ibook-g4:~$
