A few questions about stretch ( testing ) on a PowerMac G5
Dear Debian power types : I managed to install a bare and simple stretch ( testing ) release onto a PowerMac G5 using the DVD ISO image such that my /etc/apt/sources.list says : deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Stretch_ - Official Snapshot powerpc DVD Binary-1 20161031-06:51]/ stretch main The first of many little problems that I hit is that the nouveau driver is just terrible and all I see on the screen is a very very messed up pile of what looks like static. So there is no GUI no graphical login at all that works. I created a file in /etc/modprobe.d/ thus : root@charon:/etc/apt# cat /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-graphics-drivers.conf blacklist nouveau blacklist lbm-nouveau blacklist nvidia-173 blacklist nvidia-96 blacklist nvidia-current blacklist nvidia-173-updates blacklist nvidia-96-updates alias nvidia nvidia_current_updates alias nouveau off alias lbm-nouveau off This solved the nasty graphics problem after a reboot. I now can hit CTRL-F1 and get a text login. That did not work at all before. I was able to ssh in to the unit and did change the /etc/network/interfaces file so that I have a static ip and no more dhcp. However I am still stuck with ipv6 and thus any attempt to use a repo mirror just hangs badly for about four minutes or so before reverting to ipv4 which does work. However my /etc/resolv.conf file is wrecked and only has ipv6 entries in it and they don't work : root@charon:/etc/apt# cat /etc/resolv.conf nameserver 2607:f798:18:10:0:640:7125:5204 nameserver 2607:f798:18:10:0:640:7125:5198 I have no idea where that comes from but they don't work. I attempt to edit the file but it gets instantly and magically overwritten by some horrible gremlin that changes the file back to ipv6 only. I don't know why. So question one is how do I edit the /etc/apt/sources.list to get a valid repo site somewhere for packages? Nothing I seem to enter there works at all and I only ever see ( after a lot of hang time ) this message : root@charon:/etc/apt# cat /etc/apt/sources.list # #deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Stretch_ - Official Snapshot powerpc DVD Binary-1 20161031-06:51]/ stretch main deb http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main contrib root@charon:/etc/apt# apt-get update 0% [Connecting to ftp.ca.debian.org (2607:f748:10:12::deb:1)] [Connecting to security.debian.org (2607:ea00:101:3c0b::1deb:215)] . . go for a coffee ... this hangs badly for a while . watch the clock for ... four or five minutes .. or longer Hit:1 http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian testing InRelease Hit:2 http://security.debian.org stretch/updates InRelease Reading package lists... Done N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'main/binary-powerpc/Packages' as repository 'http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian testing InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'powerpc' N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'contrib/binary-powerpc/Packages' as repository 'http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian testing InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'powerpc' So that fails, eventually. What content do I need in the /etc/apt/sources.list file to get a repo that supports powerpc ? some basic info here : root@charon:~# uname -a Linux charon 4.7.0-1-powerpc64 #1 SMP Debian 4.7.8-1 (2016-10-19) ppc64 GNU/Linux root@charon:~# cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 cpu : PPC970MP, altivec supported clock : 2500.00MHz revision: 1.1 (pvr 0044 0101) processor : 1 cpu : PPC970MP, altivec supported clock : 2500.00MHz revision: 1.1 (pvr 0044 0101) processor : 2 cpu : PPC970MP, altivec supported clock : 2500.00MHz revision: 1.1 (pvr 0044 0101) processor : 3 cpu : PPC970MP, altivec supported clock : 2500.00MHz revision: 1.1 (pvr 0044 0101) timebase: platform: PowerMac model : PowerMac11,2 machine : PowerMac11,2 motherboard : PowerMac11,2 MacRISC4 Power Macintosh detected as : 337 (PowerMac G5 Dual Core) pmac flags : L2 cache: 1024K unified pmac-generation : NewWorld root@charon:~# So ... I am at a loss here. Dennis
Re: A few questions about stretch ( testing ) on a PowerMac G5
On Feb 4, 2017, at 2:12 PM, dev_user wrote: > > > Dear Debian power types : > >I managed to install a bare and simple stretch ( testing ) release onto a > PowerMac G5 using the DVD ISO image such that my /etc/apt/sources.list says : > > > >deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Stretch_ - Official Snapshot powerpc > DVD Binary-1 20161031-06:51]/ stretch main > > > >The first of many little problems that I hit is that the nouveau driver is > just terrible and all I see on the screen is a very very messed up pile of > what looks like static. So there is no GUI no graphical login at all that > works. I created a file in /etc/modprobe.d/ thus : > > root@charon:/etc/apt# cat /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-graphics-drivers.conf > blacklist nouveau > blacklist lbm-nouveau > blacklist nvidia-173 > blacklist nvidia-96 > blacklist nvidia-current > blacklist nvidia-173-updates > blacklist nvidia-96-updates > alias nvidia nvidia_current_updates > alias nouveau off > alias lbm-nouveau off > >This solved the nasty graphics problem after a reboot. I now can hit > CTRL-F1 and get a text login. That did not work at all before. > >I was able to ssh in to the unit and did change the > /etc/network/interfaces file so that I have a static ip and no more dhcp. > However I am still stuck with ipv6 and thus any attempt to use a repo mirror > just hangs badly for about four minutes or so before reverting to ipv4 which > does work. However my /etc/resolv.conf file is wrecked and only has ipv6 > entries in it and they don't work : > > root@charon:/etc/apt# cat /etc/resolv.conf > nameserver 2607:f798:18:10:0:640:7125:5204 > nameserver 2607:f798:18:10:0:640:7125:5198 > >I have no idea where that comes from but they don't work. I attempt to > edit the file but it gets instantly and magically overwritten by some > horrible gremlin that changes the file back to ipv6 only. I don't know why. > >So question one is how do I edit the /etc/apt/sources.list to get a valid > repo site somewhere for packages? Nothing I seem to enter there works at all > and I only ever see ( after a lot of hang time ) this message : > > root@charon:/etc/apt# cat /etc/apt/sources.list > # > #deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Stretch_ - Official Snapshot powerpc > DVD Binary-1 20161031-06:51]/ stretch main > > deb http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free > deb-src http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free > > deb http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main contrib non-free > deb-src http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main contrib > > root@charon:/etc/apt# apt-get update > 0% [Connecting to ftp.ca.debian.org (2607:f748:10:12::deb:1)] [Connecting to > security.debian.org (2607:ea00:101:3c0b::1deb:215)] > . > . go for a coffee ... this hangs badly for a while > . watch the clock for ... four or five minutes .. or longer > > Hit:1 http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian testing InRelease > Hit:2 http://security.debian.org stretch/updates InRelease > Reading package lists... Done > N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'main/binary-powerpc/Packages' as > repository 'http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian testing InRelease' doesn't > support architecture 'powerpc' > N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'contrib/binary-powerpc/Packages' as > repository 'http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian testing InRelease' doesn't > support architecture 'powerpc' > > So that fails, eventually. > > What content do I need in the /etc/apt/sources.list file to get a repo that > supports powerpc ? > > some basic info here : > > root@charon:~# uname -a > Linux charon 4.7.0-1-powerpc64 #1 SMP Debian 4.7.8-1 (2016-10-19) ppc64 > GNU/Linux > > root@charon:~# cat /proc/cpuinfo > processor : 0 > cpu : PPC970MP, altivec supported > clock : 2500.00MHz > revision: 1.1 (pvr 0044 0101) > > processor : 1 > cpu : PPC970MP, altivec supported > clock : 2500.00MHz > revision: 1.1 (pvr 0044 0101) > > processor : 2 > cpu : PPC970MP, altivec supported > clock : 2500.00MHz > revision: 1.1 (pvr 0044 0101) > > processor : 3 > cpu : PPC970MP, altivec supported > clock : 2500.00MHz > revision: 1.1 (pvr 0044 0101) > > timebase: > platform: PowerMac > model : PowerMac11,2 > machine : PowerMac11,2 > motherboard : PowerMac11,2 MacRISC4 Power Macintosh > detected as : 337 (PowerMac G5 Dual Core) > pmac flags : > L2 cache: 1024K unified > pmac-generation : NewWorld > root@charon:~# > > > So ... I am at a loss here. > > Dennis > It is a shame but the PowerPC line from Apple has been dropped in Debian. There was a discussion a while back I loosely followed on the powerpc list you can search for. I believe you can run Jessie still and have a working system. Your packages w
Re: A few questions about stretch ( testing ) on a PowerMac G5
PowerPC has been dropped as release architecture in Debian. If you want to keep your packages up to date you will need to use the unstable repos. On Sat, 2017-02-04 at 15:10 -0900, Kristen R wrote: > On Feb 4, 2017, at 2:12 PM, dev_user wrote: > > > > Dear Debian power types : > > > > I managed to install a bare and simple stretch ( testing ) > > release onto a PowerMac G5 using the DVD ISO image such that my > > /etc/apt/sources.list says : > > > > > > > > deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Stretch_ - Official > > Snapshot powerpc DVD Binary-1 20161031-06:51]/ stretch main > > > > > > > > The first of many little problems that I hit is that the nouveau > > driver is just terrible and all I see on the screen is a very very > > messed up pile of what looks like static. So there is no GUI no > > graphical login at all that works. I created a file in > > /etc/modprobe.d/ thus : > > > > root@charon:/etc/apt# cat /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-graphics- > > drivers.conf > > blacklist nouveau > > blacklist lbm-nouveau > > blacklist nvidia-173 > > blacklist nvidia-96 > > blacklist nvidia-current > > blacklist nvidia-173-updates > > blacklist nvidia-96-updates > > alias nvidia nvidia_current_updates > > alias nouveau off > > alias lbm-nouveau off > > > > This solved the nasty graphics problem after a reboot. I now can > > hit CTRL-F1 and get a text login. That did not work at all before. > > > > I was able to ssh in to the unit and did change the > > /etc/network/interfaces file so that I have a static ip and no more > > dhcp. However I am still stuck with ipv6 and thus any attempt to > > use a repo mirror just hangs badly for about four minutes or so > > before reverting to ipv4 which does work. However my > > /etc/resolv.conf file is wrecked and only has ipv6 entries in it > > and they don't work : > > > > root@charon:/etc/apt# cat /etc/resolv.conf > > nameserver 2607:f798:18:10:0:640:7125:5204 > > nameserver 2607:f798:18:10:0:640:7125:5198 > > > > I have no idea where that comes from but they don't work. I > > attempt to edit the file but it gets instantly and magically > > overwritten by some horrible gremlin that changes the file back to > > ipv6 only. I don't know why. > > > > So question one is how do I edit the /etc/apt/sources.list to > > get a valid repo site somewhere for packages? Nothing I seem to > > enter there works at all and I only ever see ( after a lot of hang > > time ) this message : > > > > root@charon:/etc/apt# cat /etc/apt/sources.list > > # > > #deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Stretch_ - Official Snapshot > > powerpc DVD Binary-1 20161031-06:51]/ stretch main > > > > deb http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free > > deb-src http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non- > > free > > > > deb http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main contrib non- > > free > > deb-src http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main contrib > > > > root@charon:/etc/apt# apt-get update > > 0% [Connecting to ftp.ca.debian.org (2607:f748:10:12::deb:1)] > > [Connecting to security.debian.org (2607:ea00:101:3c0b::1deb:215)] > > . > > . go for a coffee ... this hangs badly for a while > > . watch the clock for ... four or five minutes .. or longer > > > > Hit:1 http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian testing InRelease > > Hit:2 http://security.debian.org stretch/updates InRelease > > Reading package lists... Done > > N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'main/binary- > > powerpc/Packages' as repository 'http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian > > testing InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'powerpc' > > N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'contrib/binary- > > powerpc/Packages' as repository 'http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian > > testing InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'powerpc' > > > > So that fails, eventually. > > > > What content do I need in the /etc/apt/sources.list file to get a > > repo that supports powerpc ? > > > > some basic info here : > > > > root@charon:~# uname -a > > Linux charon 4.7.0-1-powerpc64 #1 SMP Debian 4.7.8-1 (2016-10-19) > > ppc64 GNU/Linux > > > > root@charon:~# cat /proc/cpuinfo > > processor : 0 > > cpu : PPC970MP, altivec supported > > clock : 2500.00MHz > > revision: 1.1 (pvr 0044 0101) > > > > processor : 1 > > cpu : PPC970MP, altivec supported > > clock : 2500.00MHz > > revision: 1.1 (pvr 0044 0101) > > > > processor : 2 > > cpu : PPC970MP, altivec supported > > clock : 2500.00MHz > > revision: 1.1 (pvr 0044 0101) > > > > processor : 3 > > cpu : PPC970MP, altivec supported > > clock : 2500.00MHz > > revision: 1.1 (pvr 0044 0101) > > > > timebase: > > platform: PowerMac > > model : PowerMac11,2 > > machine : PowerMac11,2 > > motherboard : PowerMac11,2 MacRISC4 Power Macintosh > > detected
Re: A few questions about stretch ( testing ) on a PowerMac G5
On 02/05/2017 12:10 AM, Kristen R wrote: On Feb 4, 2017, at 2:12 PM, dev_user wrote: Dear Debian power types : I managed to install a bare and simple stretch ( testing ) release onto a PowerMac G5 using the DVD ISO image such that my /etc/apt/sources.list says : deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Stretch_ - Official Snapshot powerpc DVD Binary-1 20161031-06:51]/ stretch main The first of many little problems that I hit is that the nouveau driver is just terrible and all I see on the screen is a very very messed up pile of what looks like static. So there is no GUI no graphical login at all that works. I created a file in /etc/modprobe.d/ thus : root@charon:/etc/apt# cat /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-graphics-drivers.conf blacklist nouveau blacklist lbm-nouveau blacklist nvidia-173 blacklist nvidia-96 blacklist nvidia-current blacklist nvidia-173-updates blacklist nvidia-96-updates alias nvidia nvidia_current_updates alias nouveau off alias lbm-nouveau off This solved the nasty graphics problem after a reboot. I now can hit CTRL-F1 and get a text login. That did not work at all before. I was able to ssh in to the unit and did change the /etc/network/interfaces file so that I have a static ip and no more dhcp. However I am still stuck with ipv6 and thus any attempt to use a repo mirror just hangs badly for about four minutes or so before reverting to ipv4 which does work. However my /etc/resolv.conf file is wrecked and only has ipv6 entries in it and they don't work : root@charon:/etc/apt# cat /etc/resolv.conf nameserver 2607:f798:18:10:0:640:7125:5204 nameserver 2607:f798:18:10:0:640:7125:5198 I have no idea where that comes from but they don't work. I attempt to edit the file but it gets instantly and magically overwritten by some horrible gremlin that changes the file back to ipv6 only. I don't know why. So question one is how do I edit the /etc/apt/sources.list to get a valid repo site somewhere for packages? Nothing I seem to enter there works at all and I only ever see ( after a lot of hang time ) this message : root@charon:/etc/apt# cat /etc/apt/sources.list # #deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Stretch_ - Official Snapshot powerpc DVD Binary-1 20161031-06:51]/ stretch main deb http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main contrib root@charon:/etc/apt# apt-get update 0% [Connecting to ftp.ca.debian.org (2607:f748:10:12::deb:1)] [Connecting to security.debian.org (2607:ea00:101:3c0b::1deb:215)] . . go for a coffee ... this hangs badly for a while . watch the clock for ... four or five minutes .. or longer Hit:1 http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian testing InRelease Hit:2 http://security.debian.org stretch/updates InRelease Reading package lists... Done N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'main/binary-powerpc/Packages' as repository 'http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian testing InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'powerpc' N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'contrib/binary-powerpc/Packages' as repository 'http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian testing InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'powerpc' So that fails, eventually. What content do I need in the /etc/apt/sources.list file to get a repo that supports powerpc ? some basic info here : root@charon:~# uname -a Linux charon 4.7.0-1-powerpc64 #1 SMP Debian 4.7.8-1 (2016-10-19) ppc64 GNU/Linux root@charon:~# cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 cpu : PPC970MP, altivec supported clock : 2500.00MHz revision: 1.1 (pvr 0044 0101) processor : 1 cpu : PPC970MP, altivec supported clock : 2500.00MHz revision: 1.1 (pvr 0044 0101) processor : 2 cpu : PPC970MP, altivec supported clock : 2500.00MHz revision: 1.1 (pvr 0044 0101) processor : 3 cpu : PPC970MP, altivec supported clock : 2500.00MHz revision: 1.1 (pvr 0044 0101) timebase: platform: PowerMac model : PowerMac11,2 machine : PowerMac11,2 motherboard : PowerMac11,2 MacRISC4 Power Macintosh detected as : 337 (PowerMac G5 Dual Core) pmac flags : L2 cache: 1024K unified pmac-generation : NewWorld root@charon:~# So ... I am at a loss here. Dennis thank you for the reply . It is a shame but the PowerPC line from Apple has been dropped in Debian. crying shame .. I agree. I tend to enjoy having non-x86 gear around and for RISC that means PowerPC and SPARC. Oh gee ... look .. sparc is dropped too. So I am going to re-install all over again with : debian-8.7.1-powerpc-DVD-1.iso This should be pretty darn stable and with it I can run builds of the linux kernel or whatever else I am playing
Re: A few questions about stretch ( testing ) on a PowerMac G5
As for the DNS, do not edit /etc/resovl.conf as that is system > generated. Edit instead the /etc/network/interfaces file and > list your DNS entries there. After this stop networking, and > restart (or reboot) and the /etc/resolv.conf will reflect your > new entries. hrmmm ... that didn't work for some reason : root@charon:~# uname -a Linux charon 3.16.0-4-powerpc64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.39-1 (2016-12-30) ppc64 GNU/Linux root@charon:~# root@charon:~# cat /etc/debian_version 8.7 root@charon:~# cat /etc/network/interfaces # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5). source /etc/network/interfaces.d/* # The loopback network interface auto lo iface lo inet loopback # The primary network interface allow-hotplug eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 172.16.35.25 netmask 255.255.255.192 network 172.16.35.0 broadcast 172.16.35.63 gateway 172.16.35.1 dns-nameservers 224.154.123.123 root@charon:~# did a reboot and whammo .. the /etc/resolv.conf file is still borked root@charon:~# cat /etc/resolv.conf nameserver 2607:f798:18:10:0:640:7125:5204 nameserver 2607:f798:18:10:0:640:7125:5198 root@charon:~# No darn clue .. why ? Dennis
Re: A few questions about stretch ( testing ) on a PowerMac G5
On Feb 4, 2017, at 7:34 PM, dev_user wrote: > > >> As for the DNS, do not edit /etc/resovl.conf as that is system > > generated. Edit instead the /etc/network/interfaces file and > > list your DNS entries there. After this stop networking, and > > restart (or reboot) and the /etc/resolv.conf will reflect your > > new entries. > > hrmmm ... that didn't work for some reason : > > root@charon:~# uname -a > Linux charon 3.16.0-4-powerpc64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.39-1 (2016-12-30) ppc64 > GNU/Linux > root@charon:~# > root@charon:~# cat /etc/debian_version > 8.7 > > root@charon:~# cat /etc/network/interfaces > # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system > # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5). > > source /etc/network/interfaces.d/* > > # The loopback network interface > auto lo > iface lo inet loopback > > # The primary network interface > allow-hotplug eth0 > > iface eth0 inet static > address 172.16.35.25 > netmask 255.255.255.192 > network 172.16.35.0 > broadcast 172.16.35.63 > gateway 172.16.35.1 > dns-nameservers 224.154.123.123 > root@charon:~# > > > did a reboot and whammo .. the /etc/resolv.conf file is still borked > > root@charon:~# cat /etc/resolv.conf > nameserver 2607:f798:18:10:0:640:7125:5204 > nameserver 2607:f798:18:10:0:640:7125:5198 > root@charon:~# > > No darn clue .. why ? > > Dennis > Dennis, For one thing, your DNS name server is a Multicast IP. That is not correct and will not work. What IP did you list for DNS in your interfaces config file? You should have something in the config file like: dns-nameservers NSip1 NSip2. Whatever your ISP provider is providing for DNS. You can find this out on their website, or by logging into your home router and looking. You can view this webpage specific to Debian for help: https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration#Configuring_the_interface_manually You can also use $ less /usr/share/doc/resolvconf/README to understand the resolvconf program. Or $ man resolv.conf to understand this file. Kristen signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP
Re: A few questions about stretch ( testing ) on a PowerMac G5
On 02/05/2017 05:05 AM, Kristen R wrote: On Feb 4, 2017, at 7:34 PM, dev_user wrote: As for the DNS, do not edit /etc/resovl.conf as that is system generated. Edit instead the /etc/network/interfaces file and list your DNS entries there. After this stop networking, and restart (or reboot) and the /etc/resolv.conf will reflect your new entries. hrmmm ... that didn't work for some reason : root@charon:~# uname -a Linux charon 3.16.0-4-powerpc64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.39-1 (2016-12-30) ppc64 GNU/Linux root@charon:~# root@charon:~# cat /etc/debian_version 8.7 root@charon:~# cat /etc/network/interfaces # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5). source /etc/network/interfaces.d/* # The loopback network interface auto lo iface lo inet loopback # The primary network interface allow-hotplug eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 172.16.35.25 netmask 255.255.255.192 network 172.16.35.0 broadcast 172.16.35.63 gateway 172.16.35.1 dns-nameservers 224.154.123.123 root@charon:~# did a reboot and whammo .. the /etc/resolv.conf file is still borked root@charon:~# cat /etc/resolv.conf nameserver 2607:f798:18:10:0:640:7125:5204 nameserver 2607:f798:18:10:0:640:7125:5198 root@charon:~# No darn clue .. why ? Dennis Dennis, For one thing, your DNS name server is a Multicast IP. It is a dummy .. sorry .. there is a very real dns server running iscbind in the datacenter and it works great .. however I can not use it because something keeps wrecking my resolv.conf over and over and over. dns-nameservers NSip1 NSip2. I have precisely that and the ip of the dns nameserver in the company datacenter is there and dig @theipaddr foo.com works like a charm. From some other machine. Or $ man resolv.conf to understand this file. I know that file back to front. I have never seen gremlins chase after me and wreck it moments after I edit it. I almost feel like running some sort of trace to find the process that is mangling my resolv.conf and killing it forever. Seriously ... this is madness. The resolv.conf file is just a file. A file. Nothing else. Just a file and it should always be just a text file that once it has been edited it stays put. But no ... the thing gets wrecked by a gremlin instantly after I try to fix it. Also .. my /etc/network/interfaces file is trivial : # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5). source /etc/network/interfaces.d/* # The loopback network interface auto lo iface lo inet loopback # The primary network interface allow-hotplug eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 172.16.35.25 netmask 255.255.255.192 network 172.16.35.0 broadcast 172.16.35.63 gateway 172.16.35.1 dns-nameservers xxx.yyy.zzz.ddd I assure you that the ip address of the iscbind name server is perfectly correct and I just didn't want to publish it on a mail list. So .. here I am now with the resolvconf pkg installed and that is insane drug induced madness. The resolv.conf file should be just a file that hold ascii and edited by vi and that is all that is ever needed ever. Something truely obscene is happening on this machine. dc ps: sorry for the rant but I can't get rid of ipv6 either
Re: A few questions about stretch ( testing ) on a PowerMac G5
Minor follow up .. check this out : root@charon:~# nmcli dev status -su: nmcli: command not found root@charon:~# systemctl stop NetworkManager.service Failed to stop NetworkManager.service: Unit NetworkManager.service not loaded. root@charon:~# /etc/init.d/network-manager stop -su: /etc/init.d/network-manager: No such file or directory root@charon:~# ls -l /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf ls: cannot access /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf: No such file or directory root@charon:~# So Network Mangler can not be found at all however something mangles my resolv.conf ... wow is all I can say. dc
Re: A few questions about stretch ( testing ) on a PowerMac G5
On 02/05/2017 05:05 AM, Kristen R wrote: On Feb 4, 2017, at 7:34 PM, dev_user wrote: As for the DNS, do not edit /etc/resovl.conf as that is system generated. It should not be. At all. However I think I have this fixed now : charon$ pwd /usr/local/src charon$ /usr/bin/time -p wget https://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/bash/bash-4.4-patches/bash44-012 converted 'https://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/bash/bash-4.4-patches/bash44-012' (ANSI_X3.4-1968) -> 'https://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/bash/bash-4.4-patches/bash44-012' (UTF-8) --2017-02-05 00:44:26-- https://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/bash/bash-4.4-patches/bash44-012 Resolving ftp.gnu.org (ftp.gnu.org)... 208.118.235.20, 2001:4830:134:3::b Connecting to ftp.gnu.org (ftp.gnu.org)|208.118.235.20|:443... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 5768 (5.6K) Saving to: 'bash44-012' 0K 100% 15.4M=0s 2017-02-05 00:44:27 (15.4 MB/s) - 'bash44-012' saved [5768/5768] real 0.32 user 0.04 sys 0.00 charon$ So previously that would take four minutes while the ipv6 dns data failed over and over. I modified /etc/sysctl.conf also : charon$ grep -v "^#" /etc/sysctl.conf | grep -v "^$" net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6 = 1 net.ipv6.conf.default.disable_ipv6 = 1 net.ipv6.conf.lo.disable_ipv6 = 1 net.ipv6.conf.eth0.disable_ipv6 = 1 net.ipv4.conf.all.accept_redirects = 0 net.ipv4.conf.all.send_redirects = 0 net.ipv4.conf.all.accept_source_route = 0 That seems to have settled down the situation. yay ... I can finally fetch kernel sources and try a build. Thank you for your insights and input and just plain patience. Dennis
Re: A few questions about stretch ( testing ) on a PowerMac G5
On 02/05/2017 04:24 AM, dev_user wrote: > I tend to enjoy having non-x86 gear around and for RISC that means > PowerPC and SPARC. Oh gee ... look .. sparc is dropped too. Both PowerPC and SPARC are still supported by the infrastructure. It's just that neither are currently a release architecture, but that shouldn't stop you from using them. For SPARC, just follow this guide to get Debian unstable up and running: > https://lists.debian.org/debian-sparc/2016/06/msg00126.html For PowerPC, you just install the latest Jessie release, then switch the /etc/apt/sources.list from "jessie" to "unstable". Then perform a dist-upgrade and you have an up-to-date Debian unstable running on powerpc with the latest kernel and packages. Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de `-GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913