Re: Switching from BootX to quik

2005-02-15 Thread Hans Ekbrand
On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 12:02:44AM +0100, Hans Ekbrand wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 14, 2005 at 11:56:24PM +0100, Hans Ekbrand wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > Thanks Brad, Thanks Simon. I changed the load-base to 0x1000 as that
> > worked on 6400. Rebooting as I write this.
> 
> Doesn't seem to work :-( I don't have physical access to the box at
> the moment (it is at work, I am at home), so I can't read error
> messages or try different configs right now. Will report more
> tomorrow. Thanks again for your help.

I thought that I could always zap pram and boot from cd into macos and
bootX, but holding down command-option-p-r after reboot doesn't help.
The screen stays black and I don't hear any disk spinning up. Tried to
boot from CD or floppy, but failed. I realize that I need a mac-serial
cable and nullmodem-cable to debug this further.

No big deal since this particular box was on its way to the junkyard
when I found it.

Thanks for information anyhow.

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Re: debian-powerpc digest ?

2005-02-15 Thread Kristian Peters
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Am 14.02.2005 um 22:35 schrieb Cedric Pradalier:
Just a note. On the ibook, the CPU is just in the middle but it 
usually stay pretty cold.
The GPU and hard drive are just below you left palm, and this is what 
get hot usually.
For the harddrive, I think laptop-mode package help keeping its usage 
low.
For the GPU, the more active it is the hotter. With massively Open GL 
games, the
temperature can raise by 10 degrees !
Oh yes ! I remember that I've used hdparm to disable dma for the 
harddisk. That helped a lot...

Someday you may be able to use lm-sensors to monitor that. At the 
moment you can use my
kernel module. See http://cedric.pradalier.free.fr/ibook2 .
Ok. I'll test them as soon as I have a bit more time.
*Kristian
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Re: debian-powerpc digest ?

2005-02-15 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Feb 14, 2005 at 03:58:00PM +0100, Pau Rul·lan Ferragut wrote:
>  I also have some troubles with keymapping under X11 right now... 
> (Where are my {}[] keys ?)
> How have you set the keyboard in the /etc/XF86Config-4?

pmac X keymaps are utherly broken on everything != us keyboards, and nobody
with enough X keyboard knowledge has stepped forth with the time to fix those,
so right now only a flurry of ugly half-working hacks are available.

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Re: debian-powerpc digest ?

2005-02-15 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Feb 14, 2005 at 04:39:13PM +0100, Djoume SALVETTI wrote:
> Le lundi 02/14/05 Kristian Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit :
> > I searched the archive for this mailinglist for this year but didn't
> > find any topic on that. Does a debian-powerpc digest exist somewhere
> > where I can read further on ? I also have some troubles with
> > keymapping under X11 right now... (Where are my {}[] keys ?)
> 
> http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianOnPowerPC

What we really need is fixing both the debian XFree86 package and/or the
upstream stuff. I see lot of people proposing fixes in various wiki's, howtos
or web pages, but nobody making the effort to go for the real fix.

Friendly,

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Re: 802.11{b|g} pcmcia network adapter suggestions

2005-02-15 Thread Mark Ferry
John Harrold wrote:
I was wondering if anyone here could suggest an 802.11 b or g pcmcia device
which works well with debian on the powerpc. I suppose I could get a usb
device, but I don't really want the thing hanging off the computer.
I've just ordered the D-Link DWL-AG650 (802.11a/b/g) which is reported 
to have the Atheros AR5212 chip.

It'll arrive on Friday so will let you know if it works on my G4 alubook.
Netgear WG511U (a/b/g, Atheros) is reported to work on a TiBook 
(2005/02/03).
http://madwifiwiki.thewebhost.de/wiki/Ppc

Netgear WG511T (b/g, Atheros) is reported to work on Debian PPC (2004/09/03)
http://madwifiwiki.thewebhost.de/wiki/NetgearWG511T
Up to date info on Prism cards is here:
http://prism54.org/phpwiki?pagename=Supported%20Cards
With the difficulty of obtaining older versions of Prism cards, Atheros 
may be the way to go...

regards
  Mark
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Re: pmacpow--would a .deb be worthwhile?

2005-02-15 Thread Gaudenz Steinlin
On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 08:36:51AM +1100, Cedric Pradalier wrote:
> According to Rich Johnson, on Mon, 14 Feb 2005 16:17:57 -0500, 
> >A recent thread (Starting-up a server automaticly) mentioned using
> >Takashi Oe's pmacpow to schedule cold-start boots.
> >
> >I've been playing around with it recently and have a version that will
> >also trigger boot-on-AC.  So, my question for the gallery is:
> >
> >Would it be worth the effort to create a .deb for this little utility?
> 
> I guess so. I'd like to give it a try. Can it also awake from sleep at a 
> given time ?
Or it could be integrated into powerpc-utils. but this is up to Michael
to decide.

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Re: Booting from an External USB HDD

2005-02-15 Thread Gaudenz Steinlin
On Mon, Feb 14, 2005 at 10:38:32PM +0100, Francisco Gimeno wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I'm new to this list. I'm willing about installing a Debian into a external 
> usb hdd ( Lacie 40GB ) for my iBook G4. But I don't know if it's possible.
> 
> I don't want to break the actual MacOSX installation, so I would to know:
> 1) is possible to install Debian into a External USB HDD?
> 2) could I use a key-combination when booting to access to that drive 
> whenever 
> I want to run Debian?
> 3) does anybody got it?
> 
> I have search about it but I didn't found any guide. Maybe you could help me 
> with a link or so.
Disclaimer: I never actually tried installing on a USB HD. But I got my
Powerbook booting from an USB Memory Stick. 
There is some information about booting form USB in the Sarge
Installation Manual at
http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.powerpc/ch05s01.html

AFAIK there is no way to directly boot from USB with a single key
combination. So you have to go through OpenFirmaware to boot from your
external disk. The instructions in the manual probably need some
adaption for booting from an USB HD.

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Re: 802.11{b|g} pcmcia network adapter suggestions

2005-02-15 Thread Mark Ferry
John Harrold wrote:
Sometime in February Jesus Climent assaulted the keyboard and produced:
| D-Link System Inc AirPlusXtremeG+ DWL-G650
| 
| With the atheros chip. Works fine in x86, dunno in apple. Is a Cardbus card.

Does this require the madwifi drivers?
http://madwifi.sourceforge.net/
Depends.
The hardware revision history of the DWL-G650 is promising though:
v.A1 PRISM GT (prism54.org)
v.B1 Atheros AR5211 (madwifi)
v.B2 Atheros AR5001 (madwifi)
From http://www.houseofcraig.net/acx100-0.2.0pre8_plus_fixes_43-readme
(the guys that do the TI drivers at http://acx100.sourceforge.net/ )
Hope this helps.
- Mark

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Re: 802.11{b|g} pcmcia network adapter suggestions

2005-02-15 Thread Jesus Climent
On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 01:09:26PM +, Mark Ferry wrote:
> 
> With the difficulty of obtaining older versions of Prism cards, Atheros 
> may be the way to go...

Forgot to mention I bought 2 SMC cards (with prism54 chip, more exactly
isl3890, from Intersil, supposed to work with prism54) but that have changed
part od the pci interface and does not work. The exact model is SMC2835W.

Beware.

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OOo crash on startup

2005-02-15 Thread Matthew T. Atkinson
'ello,

Has anyone else had this error with OpenOffice?  I use the program at
Uni for lectures but recently it just dies every time I try to start it.
I've tried the following:

 * re-prelinking the binaries
 * un-prelinking the binaries
 * trying it with/without network connection
 * trying it after a sleep and after a reboot or cold start
 * removing the settings in my home directory and starting afresh

Nothing seems to work.  I would be grateful for any information you
might be able to provide (error log attached).

best regards,


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OpenOffice.org lockfile found (/home/matatk/.openoffice/1.1.2/.lock)
Using existing OpenOffice.org
sh: line 1: crash_report: command not found


Fatal exception: Signal 11
Stack:
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libsal.so.3[0xf0b966c]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libsal.so.3[0xf0b9844]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libsal.so.3[0xf0b995c]
/lib/libpthread.so.0[0x3017caf8]
[0x7fffcfe8]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libpsp645lp.so(_ZN3psp11CUPSManager16createCUPSParserERKN3rtl8OUStringE+0x524)[0xec2c210]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libpsp645lp.so(_ZN3psp9PPDParser9getParserE6String+0x1dc)[0xec0d370]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libpsp645lp.so(_ZN3psp11CUPSManager19setupJobContextDataERNS_7JobDataE+0x1d4)[0xec2c768]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libpsp645lp.so(_ZN3psp7JobDataaSERKS0_+0xc4)[0xec28884]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libvcl645lp.so(_ZN3psp11PrinterInfoC1ERKS0_+0x4c)[0xff3a840]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libvcl645lp.so(_ZN11SalInstance17CreateInfoPrinterEP19SalPrinterQueueInfoP12ImplJobSetup+0x80)[0xff37d54]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libvcl645lp.so(_ZN7Printer8ImplInitEP19SalPrinterQueueInfo+0xec)[0xfe09504]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libvcl645lp.so(_ZN7PrinterC2Ev+0xec)[0xfe09b00]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libsfx645lp.so(_ZN10SfxPrinterC1EP10SfxItemSet+0x34)[0xca7824c]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libsd645lp.so[0xb94d118]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libsd645lp.so[0xb949f50]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libsd645lp.so[0xb9488c4]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libsd645lp.so[0xb948b24]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libsd645lp.so[0xb98679c]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libsd645lp.so[0xb980dcc]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libsd645lp.so[0xb987b54]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libsd645lp.so[0xb8bb43c]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libsd645lp.so[0xb8b9970]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libsfx645lp.so(_ZN8SfxShell11ExecuteSlotER10SfxRequestPK12SfxInterface+0xe0)[0xcac2274]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libsfx645lp.so(_ZN19SfxFrameLoader_Impl4loadERKN3com3sun4star3uno8SequenceINS2_5beans13PropertyValueEEERKNS3_9ReferenceINS2_5frame6XFrameEEE+0x1178)[0xca61aa8]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libfwk645lp.so[0xbbe435c]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libfwk645lp.so[0xbbea798]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libfwk645lp.so[0xbbdf1f8]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libfwk645lp.so[0xbbf654c]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice.bin(_ZN7desktop7Desktop11OpenDefaultEv+0x4d8)[0x1001f6c8]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice.bin(_ZN7desktop7Desktop11OpenClientsEv+0x1b84)[0x1001f104]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice.bin(_ZN7desktop7Desktop16OpenClients_ImplEPv+0x1c)[0x1001d108]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice.bin(_ZN7desktop7Desktop24LinkStubOpenClients_ImplEPvS1_+0x10)[0x1001d0dc]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libvcl645lp.so[0xfeb7ea0]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libvcl645lp.so(_Z19ImplWindowFrameProcPvP8SalFrametPKv+0x308)[0xfeb8684]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libvcl645lp.so(_ZN12SalFrameData19HandleClientMessageEP19XClientMessageEvent+0xd0)[0xff1b0a0]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libvcl645lp.so(_ZN12SalFrameData8DispatchEP7_XEvent+0x4e8)[0xff1b8a8]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libvcl645lp.so(_ZN10SalDisplay8DispatchEP7_XEvent+0x348)[0xff4834c]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libvcl645lp.so(_ZN10SalDisplay5YieldEh+0xd8)[0xff47fcc]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libvcl645lp.so[0xff447c0]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libvcl645lp.so(_ZN7SalXLib5YieldEh+0x3b4)[0xff43034]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libvcl645lp.so(_ZN11SalInstance5YieldEh+0x34)[0xff4bd10]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libvcl645lp.so(_ZN11Application5YieldEv+0x74)[0xfd69920]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libvcl645lp.so(_ZN11Application7ExecuteEv+0x44)[0xfd697e8]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice.bin(_ZN7desktop7Desktop4MainEv+0x1d08)[0x1001c5b8]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libvcl645lp.so(_Z6SVMainv+0x6c)[0xfd6f13c]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libvcl645lp.so(main+0x38)[0xff418b0]
/lib/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0x170)[0x303731a0]


iBook G4: repeatingly connect/disconnect of usb storage device

2005-02-15 Thread steinm
Hi all,

there has been many success stories about connecting a usb disk
to an iBook G4. Well, in may case it also looks ok, if the device
wouldn't disconnect all the time. Here is an excerpt from the syslog

--
Feb 15 12:31:09 localhost kernel: usb 4-2: new high speed USB device
using ehci_hcd and address 3
Feb 15 12:31:10 localhost kernel: hub 4-0:1.0: over-current change on
port 2
Feb 15 12:31:10 localhost kernel: usb 4-2: USB disconnect, address 3
Feb 15 12:31:10 localhost kernel: usb 4-2: new high speed USB device
using ehci_hcd and address 4
Feb 15 12:31:11 localhost kernel: Initializing USB Mass Storage
driver...
Feb 15 12:31:11 localhost usb.agent[355]:  usb-storage: loaded
successfully
Feb 15 12:31:11 localhost kernel: scsi0 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass
Storage devices
Feb 15 12:31:11 localhost kernel: usbcore: registered new driver
usb-storage
Feb 15 12:31:11 localhost kernel: USB Mass Storage support registered.
Feb 15 12:31:11 localhost kernel: usb-storage: device found at 4
Feb 15 12:31:11 localhost kernel: usb-storage: waiting for device to
settle before scanning
Feb 15 12:31:12 localhost usb.agent[421]:  usb-storage: already
loaded
Feb 15 12:31:16 localhost scsi.agent[473]: disk at
/devices/pci0001:10/0001:10:1b.2/usb4/4-2/4-2:2.0/host0/target0:0:0/0:0:0:0
Feb 15 12:31:16 localhost kernel:   Vendor: IC25N030  Model: ATDA04-0
Rev: DA4O
Feb 15 12:31:16 localhost kernel:   Type:   Direct-Access
ANSI SCSI revision: 00
Feb 15 12:31:16 localhost kernel: usb-storage: device scan complete
Feb 15 12:31:16 localhost kernel: SCSI device sda: 58605120 512-byte
hdwr sectors (30006 MB)
Feb 15 12:31:16 localhost kernel: sda: assuming drive cache: write
through
Feb 15 12:31:17 localhost kernel: SCSI device sda: 58605120 512-byte
hdwr sectors (30006 MB)
Feb 15 12:31:17 localhost kernel: sda: assuming drive cache: write
through
Feb 15 12:31:17 localhost kernel:  /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0:
[mac] p1 p2
Feb 15 12:31:17 localhost kernel: Attached scsi disk sda at scsi0,
channel 0, id 0, lun 0
Feb 15 12:31:29 localhost kernel: hub 4-0:1.0: over-current change on
port 2
Feb 15 12:31:29 localhost kernel: usb 4-2: USB disconnect, address 4
Feb 15 12:31:29 localhost kernel: usb 4-2: new high speed USB device
using ehci_hcd and address 5
Feb 15 12:31:30 localhost kernel: scsi1 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass
Storage devices
Feb 15 12:31:30 localhost kernel: usb-storage: device found at 5
Feb 15 12:31:30 localhost kernel: usb-storage: waiting for device to
settle before scanning
Feb 15 12:31:30 localhost usb.agent[572]:  usb-storage: already
loaded
Feb 15 12:31:35 localhost kernel:   Vendor: IC25N030  Model: ATDA04-0
Rev: DA4O
Feb 15 12:31:35 localhost kernel:   Type:   Direct-Access
ANSI SCSI revision: 00
Feb 15 12:31:35 localhost kernel: SCSI device sda: 58605120 512-byte
hdwr sectors (30006 MB)
Feb 15 12:31:35 localhost kernel: sda: assuming drive cache: write
through
Feb 15 12:31:35 localhost kernel: SCSI device sda: 58605120 512-byte
hdwr sectors (30006 MB)
Feb 15 12:31:35 localhost kernel: sda: assuming drive cache: write
through
Feb 15 12:31:35 localhost kernel:  /dev/scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun0:
[mac] p1 p2
Feb 15 12:31:35 localhost kernel: Attached scsi disk sda at scsi1,
channel 0, id 0, lun 0
Feb 15 12:31:35 localhost kernel: usb-storage: device scan complete
Feb 15 12:31:36 localhost scsi.agent[611]: disk at
/devices/pci0001:10/0001:10:1b.2/usb4/4-2/4-2:2.0/host1/target1:0:0/1:0:0:0
Feb 15 12:31:47 localhost kernel: hub 4-0:1.0: over-current change on
port 2
Feb 15 12:31:48 localhost kernel: usb 4-2: USB disconnect, address 5

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Now it keeps repeatingly connecting and disconnecting until I unpluged
the device.
I'm using a self compiled linux 2.6.11-rc4 and a freshly installed
debian unstable.
There has just been a mouse connected to the usb bus when the disk
was plugged in. Anybody any explaination for this odd behaviour?

  Uwe

PS: The same usb disk did work on a pismo with linux 2.6.6.
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Re: Switching from BootX to quik

2005-02-15 Thread Rich Johnson
On Tuesday, February 15, 2005, at 03:02 AM, Hans Ekbrand wrote:
I thought that I could always zap pram and boot from cd into macos and
bootX, but holding down command-option-p-r after reboot doesn't help.
The screen stays black and I don't hear any disk spinning up. Tried to
boot from CD or floppy, but failed. I realize that I need a mac-serial
cable and nullmodem-cable to debug this further.
That's odd.  Given that you've wiped MacOS from the disk you should get 
a grey screen with the no-disk icon.  Not hearing the disk is odd as 
well.

Ignoring the disk for now, the symptom indicates that NVRAM wasn't 
reset.  You need to hold cmd-opt-P-R down _during_ boot, not after, and 
hold them down until you hear the second boot chime.

Apple's Howto is at: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=2238
If all else fails, you can open the case and remove the PRAM battery 
until the setting evaporate.  (the battery may need replacing anyway.)

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Re: where's tfm?

2005-02-15 Thread vinai
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005, Brad Boyer wrote:
I doubt it gets the kind of testing that the newer stuff does. I think
only the 7x00 and 8x00 models had the chaos bridge.
Hey Folks,
I just set up an 8600 at home with the sole purpose of playing around 
with multimedia stuff on it.  I'm actually quite willing to spend some 
time to try to get the control video device working if it means I could 
recover one of my PCI slots (the one in question, currently occupied by 
an ATI Mach 64 card).

I have no device driver programming experience, but I've programmed with 
C for the last few years, and am quite willing to learn here, if some of 
the more knowledgeable folks are willing to answer sticky questions when 
they come up ;-)  Even it means going back to Mac OS classic and taking 
apart system extensions, etc, I'm willing to give it a go ...

So here are my first couple of questions.  I had "testing" on this mac
but I'm quite willing to wipe the install and start from scratch - and I 
probably will, just to test out the new installer...  But if I do kernel 
work and I have questions, what sources would be the best to use ?  And 
how would I get these sources ?

thanx
vinai
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Re: iBook G4 1.2Ghz 12" and therm_adt746x

2005-02-15 Thread Daniele Menozzi
On  19:11:16 13/Feb , Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
> Have a look at
> $ modinfo therm_adt746x | grep parm

thanks for the information, it will be very userful!

Cheers
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Re: pmacpow--would a .deb be worthwhile?

2005-02-15 Thread Rich Johnson
On Tuesday, February 15, 2005, at 08:08 AM, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote:
On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 08:36:51AM +1100, Cedric Pradalier wrote:
According to Rich Johnson, on Mon, 14 Feb 2005 16:17:57 -0500,
A recent thread (Starting-up a server automaticly) mentioned using
Takashi Oe's pmacpow to schedule cold-start boots.
I've been playing around with it recently and have a version that 
will
also trigger boot-on-AC.  So, my question for the gallery is:

Would it be worth the effort to create a .deb for this little 
utility?
I guess so. I'd like to give it a try. Can it also awake from sleep 
at a given time ?
Or it could be integrated into powerpc-utils. but this is up to Michael
to decide.
Actually that seems like a more logical location.  I'll check with him.
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Re: where's tfm?

2005-02-15 Thread Brad Boyer
On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 10:00:40AM -0600, vinai wrote:
> I just set up an 8600 at home with the sole purpose of playing around 
> with multimedia stuff on it.  I'm actually quite willing to spend some 
> time to try to get the control video device working if it means I could 
> recover one of my PCI slots (the one in question, currently occupied by 
> an ATI Mach 64 card).

Even at it's theoretical performance limits, the control chip can't do
everything the mach64 chip does. However, it should be possible to have
better raw bandwidth into VRAM compared to a PCI card. It's worth a try.

> I have no device driver programming experience, but I've programmed with 
> C for the last few years, and am quite willing to learn here, if some of 
> the more knowledgeable folks are willing to answer sticky questions when 
> they come up ;-)  Even it means going back to Mac OS classic and taking 
> apart system extensions, etc, I'm willing to give it a go ...

I'm sure we'll all do what we can to help. If you're serious about taking
apart mac drivers, you may also get good info out of the 68k mac efforts.

> So here are my first couple of questions.  I had "testing" on this mac
> but I'm quite willing to wipe the install and start from scratch - and I 
> probably will, just to test out the new installer...  But if I do kernel 
> work and I have questions, what sources would be the best to use ?  And 
> how would I get these sources ?

These days, the official source from kernel.org is pretty good for ppc.

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Re: dpkg problems...

2005-02-15 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
Hi Charles

On Mon, Feb 14, 2005 at 12:48:52PM -0500, vze26m98 wrote:
> Sorry to bother, but I'm a fairly new user and have dug myself into a
> hole 

... Welcome to the Club ... :)

> and my searches of the Debian lists haven't turned up what I'm
> needing.
> 
> Recently did an install of Woody on a Pismo, things have been fine.
> 
> Added the Debian testing distributions to my sources.list.  Got a
> zillion things to upgrade, which I started in on.
> 
> deselect warned me about quitting xdm when it started to install glibc
> (I think that was the name).  I quit and tried to stop xdm.  Eventually
> figured that out.
> 
> Re-ran dselect to return to the install process, but it stopped again on
> the xfs install, which (if I remember) said it was broken.  I accepted
> the choice to continue.

I gave up using dselect some time ago: I feel this tool is similar to
Windoze, a bit: I never really understood what was going on when using
it, IIRC .. :)  

I'd try this:

Seeing what your system thinks about the status of the installed packages: 

dpkg -C

The latter should give you some information on what's wrong with your installs.
If it does not tell you what is wrong try one of the following commands:

The following should configure all unpacked but unconfigured packages:

dpkg --configure -a

Doing the same with a single package:

dpkg --configure 

dpkg-reconfigure 


If all this will not help, I'd try to reinstall the package that can't
be reconfigured for some reason, in the following, as an example, xfs,

apt-get install --reinstall xfs

I'm not sure if the latter will work, please see below ...

For *all* commands above, except perhaps "dpkg -C", first do a dry-run
with the "--simulate" option, so apt-get/dpkg might hopefully warn you
in case you're gonna enter something that could be wrong ... :)
...something like

dpkg --simulate --configure -a

dpkg-reconfigure seems to be blind to the "--simulate" option.

> 
> dselect eventually gave up, saying that dpkg-preconfigure didn't exist,
> which was true.
> 
> I now have dselect telling me that I've got 37 packages to upgrade, but
> nothing happens.  The upgrade clearly isn't complete, as I can type "man
> dpkg-preconfigure" and it can't find man.

> 
> [ ... ]


I'd guess you can't install anything else until you fixed the problems
with the packages already installed, or perhaps better: half-installed ...

Good luck, and please come back if it doesn't work ...

Best Regards
Wolfgang

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Addendum: Re: dpkg problems...

2005-02-15 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 08:41:28PM +0100, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
> 
> For *all* commands above, except perhaps "dpkg -C", first do a dry-run
> with the "--simulate" option, so apt-get/dpkg might hopefully warn you
> in case you're gonna enter something that could be wrong ... :)
> ...something like
> 
> dpkg --simulate --configure -a

Please be sure to write "--simulate" as the very first option, before
any "action-parameter": "man dpkg" for more on that ...

Regards
Wolfgang

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Re: dpkg problems...

2005-02-15 Thread Moritz Armingeon
On 12:48 Mon 14 Feb , vze26m98 wrote:
> Added the Debian testing distributions to my sources.list.  Got a
> zillion things to upgrade, which I started in on.
Does that "Added" mean that you didn't remove the stable one? If you did so,
get rid of stable and apt-get update && apt-get upgrade...

Moritz


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Re: iBook G4: repeatingly connect/disconnect of usb storage device

2005-02-15 Thread David Pye
On Tuesday 15 February 2005 15:04, steinm wrote:
> Feb 15 12:31:29 localhost kernel: hub 4-0:1.0: over-current change on
> port 2

That suggests to me that the amount of current it's trying to pull exceeds 
what the USB port is able/willing to provide.

Try an externally powered drive?

David

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Re: Japanese Input on Sarge/KDE

2005-02-15 Thread Niklaus Giger
Am Sonntag, 13. Februar 2005 23.56 schrieb Dylan Beaudette:
> Hi everyone.
>
> In the past I have been able to get a working japaese input system with
> canna-server and kinput2.
>
> i start the input environment with a little script:
> export LANG=ja_JP
> kinput2 -xim -kinput -canna &
> uxterm&
>
I cannot comment on Japanese. But as my wife is from Korea we often do a 
smilar trick for e.g. a konquerer. My scripts looks like:
#! /bin/bash
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export LC_CTYPE=ko_KR.eucKR
export LANG=ko_KR.eucKR
ami &
kmail
> from the uxterm i can start typing in japanese by first pressing
> "shift+space". in the past any KDE application started from this uxterm
> would allow me to input japanes into a text field by first pressing
> "shift+space"... A couple of months ago this stopped working. Could there
> be something that has changed since then?
>
> Also, i was advised to add the following to my .xinitrc:
> export XMODIFIERS='@im=kinput2
> however i am not really sure what this is doing..
It tells the X server that it should use kinput2 as its Input Manager.
However, if you are using KDE your .xinitrc will not be executed. So in my 
case I added the corresponding entry for AMI in my script.

Hope that helps.

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Re: where's tfm?

2005-02-15 Thread Mich Lanners
Hi,

On  15 Feb, this message from Brad Boyer echoed through cyberspace:
> On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 10:00:40AM -0600, vinai wrote:
>> I just set up an 8600 at home with the sole purpose of playing around 
>> with multimedia stuff on it.  I'm actually quite willing to spend
>> some time to try to get the control video device working if it means
>> I could recover one of my PCI slots (the one in question, currently
>> occupied by an ATI Mach 64 card).
> 
> Even at it's theoretical performance limits, the control chip can't do
> everything the mach64 chip does. However, it should be possible to
> have better raw bandwidth into VRAM compared to a PCI card. It's worth
> a try.

Yes, this seems a good apreciation of the situation.

Additional thoughts:

- in my experience, a graphic card on te standard PC bus 'eats' quite a
  bit of bandwidth, which will impact things like disk access
- access to VRAM is _very_ fast compared to PCI cards, both for reading
  and writing. And believe it or not, X _reads_ quite a bit in VRAM.
- the most interesting thig about control, that is not implemented yet,
  seems to be the hardware cursor, whose existance is proven. It is
  implemented in control as a bitmap in the last few bytes of every
  scanline.
- disassembling MacOS drivers may give other acceleration ideas, but
  that is a tedious work.

Cheers

Michel

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Re: OOo crash on startup

2005-02-15 Thread Niklaus Giger
Am Dienstag, 15. Februar 2005 15.16 schrieb Matthew T. Atkinson:
> 'ello,
>
> Has anyone else had this error with OpenOffice?  I use the program at
> Uni for lectures but recently it just dies every time I try to start it.

Do you have openoffice.org-crashrep installed?

On my system openoffice.org-bin 1.1.3-1 is installed, which should be the 
latest release in testing. And it works okay on my PowerBook Alu G4.

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Re: OOo crash on startup

2005-02-15 Thread Luca Bigliardi - shammash
On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 09:53 PM, Niklaus Giger wrote:

> > Has anyone else had this error with OpenOffice?

debian package version ?

> > but recently it just dies every time I try to start it.

have you updated/modified anything ?

> On my system openoffice.org-bin 1.1.3-1 is installed, which should be the 
> latest release in testing. And it works okay on my PowerBook Alu G4.

here 1.1.3-4 from unstable works pretty well on ibook 2.2



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radeonfb: only 80x25

2005-02-15 Thread Martin Lohmeier
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Hi,
today I updated to linux 2.6.11-rc4 because I had problems with
linux-wlan-ng (which are solved now :-) ). But now I only have 80x25
virtual console :-(
Ben, I saw in the 2.6.11-rc4 changelog that you updated the radeonfb.
Does this have something to do with my problem?
I have
append="video=radeonfb:1024x786-32"
in my /etc/yaboot.conf and this was working until 2.6.10. Anyone know
what the problem ist?
by, Martin
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Re: iBook G4: repeatingly connect/disconnect of usb storage device

2005-02-15 Thread vinai
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005, David Pye wrote:
On Tuesday 15 February 2005 15:04, steinm wrote:
Feb 15 12:31:29 localhost kernel: hub 4-0:1.0: over-current change on
port 2
That suggests to me that the amount of current it's trying to pull exceeds
what the USB port is able/willing to provide.
Try an externally powered drive?
Or go through a powered USB hub - these aren't too bad.  I got one that 
seemed to be pretty well built, as was able to supply power to all 4 of 
its ports.  Cost was ~ $40 US.

cheers
vinai
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Re: OOo crash on startup

2005-02-15 Thread Matthew T. Atkinson
Hello,

I don't have openoffice.org-crashrep installed -- there doesn't seem to
be any such package in Sarge (I tried a few apt-cache searches in case
the package name is different in Sarge, to no avail).  I'm using:

openoffice.org1.1.2dfsg1-3
openoffice.org-bin1.1.2dfsg1-3
openoffice.org-debian-files   1.1.2-5+1
openoffice.org-help-en1.1+20040420-3
openoffice.org-hyphenation-en-gb  20030813-3
openoffice.org-l10n-en1.1.2dfsg1-3
openoffice.org-thesaurus-en-us1.1.2dfsg1-3

Hope this helps, thanks for the advice so far,

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Re: radeonfb: only 80x25

2005-02-15 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 22:35 +0100, Martin Lohmeier wrote:
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> 
> Hi,
> 
> today I updated to linux 2.6.11-rc4 because I had problems with
> linux-wlan-ng (which are solved now :-) ). But now I only have 80x25
> virtual console :-(
> 
> Ben, I saw in the 2.6.11-rc4 changelog that you updated the radeonfb.
> Does this have something to do with my problem?
> I have
> 
> append="video=radeonfb:1024x786-32"
> 
> in my /etc/yaboot.conf and this was working until 2.6.10. Anyone know
> what the problem ist?

Not sure,can you enable radeonfb verbose debug and send me the output of
dmesg ?

Ben.



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Re: Memory problem

2005-02-15 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 14:51 +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> On my PowerBook (2.6.9-powerpc kernel), top says:
> 
>   PID USER  PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+  COMMAND  
>  
> 12457 lefevre   16   0  168m  64m  45m S  0.0 25.6 114:31.11 mozilla-bin  
>  
> 12458 lefevre   16   0  168m  64m  45m S  0.0 25.6   0:00.21 mozilla-bin  
>  
> 12459 lefevre   16   0  168m  64m  45m S  0.0 25.6   0:12.63 mozilla-bin  
>  
> 12461 lefevre   16   0  168m  64m  45m S  0.0 25.6   0:25.27 mozilla-bin  
>  
>  1059 lefevre   16   0  168m  64m  45m S  0.0 25.6   0:00.03 mozilla-bin  
>  
> 
> whereas on x86, I get only one instance of mozilla-bin (Mozilla is
> compiled using the same .mozconfig). How can I fix that?

This is normal. The above are all threads of the same application, they
don't actually eat the sum of the memory, but since they share their
memory space, "top" will show the same data for all of them.

You won't see this on x86 because I suppose debian's glibc on x86 has
NPTL support enabled (the new pthread library), which we don't have for
ppc yet. (It's available in upstream glibc, but debian's is quite
outdated).

Ben.



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