Emacs: eshell can't receive C-q C-c ?

2005-01-15 Thread William Xuuu

Hi, folks.

I'm using an ibook. When in eshell, it seems that eshell can't receive C-c
signal to kill a process ? e.g, find and then try C-q C-c. It used to work
fine on my pc. Any ideas?

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Problems with partitioning

2005-01-15 Thread pharme
Good day to all,

I am an absolute novice (5 days old) in Linux, with some years of
experience with Mac OS. I am trying to install a Linux distro in an
unproductive G3 Powerbook (New World Macs)

Here's what i have done:.

Using Mac OS Disk Utility partition my 12 GB harddrive to 2 partitions,
both approx 5.5gb (Mac OS extended)

Upon booting with debian cd set (cd 1 Debian 3.0 30r4 PPC-binary),
things went smoothly, only when i arrived at the partitioning (with
'mac-fdisk') part, I can't seemed to proceed further. Here's the
problem:

cmd c - create new LINUX partition

First Block: 10p  
(targeted to the partition number i have allocated for the installation
for Debian)

Length : 10p
(to indicate use of the entire partition)

and when it comes to 'Name of partition', whatever names i try to give,
single word or string with quotes, it just prompted:

"requested base and length is not within an existing free partition"

I must have missed something somewhere, can anyone help with my
problems?

thanks 

pharme 



Problems with partitioning

2005-01-15 Thread Sawn Hwang
Good day to all,

I am an absolute novice (5 days old) in Linux, with some years of
experience with Mac OS. I am trying to install a Linux distro in an
unproductive G3 Powerbook (New World Macs)

Here's what i have done:.

Using Mac OS Disk Utility partition my 12 GB harddrive to 2 partitions,
both approx 5.5gb (Mac OS extended)

Upon booting with debian cd set (cd 1 Debian 3.0 30r4 PPC-binary),
things went smoothly, only when i arrived at the partitioning (with
'mac-fdisk') part, I can't seemed to proceed further. Here's the
problem:

cmd c - create new LINUX partition

First Block: 10p  
(targeted to the partition number i have allocated for the installation
for Debian)

Length : 10p
(to indicate use of the entire partition)

and when it comes to 'Name of partition', whatever names i try to give,
single word or string with quotes, it just prompted:

"requested base and length is not within an existing free partition"

I must have missed something somewhere, can anyone help with my
problems?

thanks 

pharme 



Re: Problems with partitioning

2005-01-15 Thread david howe
there are many ways to do this, I suggest you read the ppc install howto at
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/powerpc/install
for starters.
from my experience with mac linux installs I find that setting up the 
hard disk with the mac HD tool is a good way to go, depending on how 
much space the MacOS deserves, you will need a minimum of 3 partitions 
(if you use bootx) or 4 if you intend to use yaboot. I think you can 
safely ignore the yaboot partition and let the installer do that part 
but my memory is sketchy :)

When u use the mac hd setup tool, select custom partitioning and create 
2 unix partitions as well as the mac partition. Create the unix 
partition at first then a swap then a mac HFS partition. If you like you 
can name the first unix partition "/" (without the quotes) and the 2nd 
one "swap". the mac name is irrelevant.

all of this will help to create a more sensible partitioning when you 
get to the linux partition editor.

hope that helps
david
pharme wrote:
Good day to all,
I am an absolute novice (5 days old) in Linux, with some years of
experience with Mac OS. I am trying to install a Linux distro in an
unproductive G3 Powerbook (New World Macs)
Here's what i have done:.
Using Mac OS Disk Utility partition my 12 GB harddrive to 2 partitions,
both approx 5.5gb (Mac OS extended)
Upon booting with debian cd set (cd 1 Debian 3.0 30r4 PPC-binary),
things went smoothly, only when i arrived at the partitioning (with
'mac-fdisk') part, I can't seemed to proceed further. Here's the
problem:
cmd c - create new LINUX partition
First Block: 10p  
(targeted to the partition number i have allocated for the installation
for Debian)

Length : 10p
(to indicate use of the entire partition)
and when it comes to 'Name of partition', whatever names i try to give,
single word or string with quotes, it just prompted:
"requested base and length is not within an existing free partition"
I must have missed something somewhere, can anyone help with my
problems?
thanks 

pharme 

 


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Re: G5 blade center under debian

2005-01-15 Thread Cajus Pollmeier
Am 15.01.2005 um 00:42 schrieb Anton Blanchard:
Hi,
I've just updated the installer image to have no POWER4+ optimization,
but the language chooser seems to be broken. I've no idea why.
Nice, it gets a lot further on POWER3 now :) It stops right here:
time_init: decrementer frequency = 93.748235 MHz
time_init: processor frequency   = 375.00 MHz
I wonder if serial and serial console is disabled in this kernel...
It worked on 2.6.9 which was the last one I tested with serial
connections. Will check 2.6.10...
It also stops at the same point on a JS20 blade:
time_init: decrementer frequency = 199.839239 MHz
time_init: processor frequency   = 1600.00 MHz
Is hvc console disabled too? :)
I can't test, but IBM tried the installer on all pSeries machines
they had in access for testing and the installer worked for them
with HMC (is this identical to hvc? Anything special needed
here?) and direct console. I'm not 100% sure if we need to
disable the pSeries support for your hardware.
Can you send me a working kernel configuration for your
hardware? I can compare and check if there needs to be
another kernel flavor...
Cheers,
Cajus
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install docos for debian on dual g5

2005-01-15 Thread Dean Hamstead
the question of linux on dual g5s is so regular
im wondering if someone could ut together some
documents and link them off the debian ports page
the existing linked documents were invaluable in
my first few times of putting linux on mac hardware
(much like the i386 install docos), so hat goes
of to the authors of them. and heres my vote
to encourage someone to cut back some list noise
and help the whole world out.
or someone send me a dual g5, ill install then
write up some docos.
Dean
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Re: Problems with partitioning

2005-01-15 Thread pharme
On Saturday, January 15, 2005 4:30 PM, david howe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote,

>there are many ways to do this, I suggest you read the ppc install
howto 
>at
>http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/powerpc/install
>for starters.

I have printed a PDF version of the install manual.
Chapter 6 indicates little of the steps to complete the partitioning
within mac-fdisk. I searched thru the doc in the cd and found a quite
relevant text on the partitioning editor. Still I am facing glitches
filing in the right expression after each prompt.
>
>from my experience with mac linux installs I find that setting up the 
>hard disk with the mac HD tool is a good way to go, depending on how 
>much space the MacOS deserves, you will need a minimum of 3 partitions 
>(if you use bootx) or 4 if you intend to use yaboot. I think you can 
>safely ignore the yaboot partition and let the installer do that part 
>but my memory is sketchy :)
>

>When u use the mac hd setup tool, select custom partitioning and create 
>2 unix partitions as well as the mac partition. Create the unix 
>partition at first then a swap then a mac HFS partition. If you like
you 
>can name the first unix partition "/" (without the quotes) and the 2nd 
>one "swap". the mac name is irrelevant.

I took from your pointers and repartition my HD using the mac disk
utility. Giving 3 partitions namely roots, swap and mac os, in sequence.
With roots and swap in UFS type.
>
>all of this will help to create a more sensible partitioning when you 
>get to the linux partition editor.

* When booted with the cd, under partitioning, cmd c allows me to create
new partitions, then it prompts for First Block, according to doc. I am
to name the partition number (10p), then follows with the prompt on
Length (10p). It then asked for Name of partition: any name given will
be prompted by this: requested base and lenght is not within an
exisiting free partition.

I am beginning to wonder if the above * is at all necessary, if not, how
then can i go about setting a linux root partition and a swap partition.

I am lost, honestly.

Any pointers will be appreciated.

pharme


>
>hope that helps
>
>david
>
>pharme wrote:
>
>>Good day to all,
>>
>>I am an absolute novice (5 days old) in Linux, with some years of
>>experience with Mac OS. I am trying to install a Linux distro in an
>>unproductive G3 Powerbook (New World Macs)
>>
>>Here's what i have done:.
>>
>>Using Mac OS Disk Utility partition my 12 GB harddrive to 2
partitions,
>>both approx 5.5gb (Mac OS extended)
>>
>>Upon booting with debian cd set (cd 1 Debian 3.0 30r4 PPC-binary),
>>things went smoothly, only when i arrived at the partitioning (with
>>'mac-fdisk') part, I can't seemed to proceed further. Here's the
>>problem:
>>
>>cmd c - create new LINUX partition
>>
>>First Block: 10p  
>>(targeted to the partition number i have allocated for the
installation
>>for Debian)
>>
>>Length : 10p
>>(to indicate use of the entire partition)
>>
>>and when it comes to 'Name of partition', whatever names i try to
give,
>>single word or string with quotes, it just prompted:
>>
>>"requested base and length is not within an existing free partition"
>>
>>I must have missed something somewhere, can anyone help with my
>>problems?
>>
>>thanks 
>>
>>pharme 
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>



Re: USB wireless 802.11g dongle

2005-01-15 Thread Jesus Climent
On Mon, Dec 27, 2004 at 06:33:23PM +0100, Jack Malmostoso wrote:
> Ciao Jack Malmostoso, nel tuo messaggio dicevi:
> 
> > http://home.arcor.de/ironpanther/usbstick/
> > 
> > would be nice to know if Mr.Ironpanther here is the author of the driver
> > or is just "hosting" it for unknown reasons.
> 
> I finally talked to this person, and he told me that had it uploaded on
> his webspace to have a friend of his to help him with that driver.
> 
> He also told me that managed to get it work on SuSE, and on debian
> compiled fine but could only ping and not use the dongle at full.
> 
> That's all I know, I am writing to ZyDas right now.

Any progress on this?

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Re: Problems with partitioning

2005-01-15 Thread sa9k063
Sawn Hwang wrote:
cmd c - create new LINUX partition
C (or c) only
(targeted to the partition number i have allocated for the installation
for Debian)
10p
try
C10p
to create partition 10
instead. It will ask you for its name and type
more help on partition names and types is ie. in
http://www.hk8.org/old_web/linux/run/appd_03.htm
hth,
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Re: Problems with partitioning

2005-01-15 Thread pharme
On Saturday, January 15, 2005 10:28 PM, sa9k063
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote,

>Sawn Hwang wrote:
>
>> cmd c - create new LINUX partition
>> 
>
>C (or c) only
>
>> (targeted to the partition number i have allocated for the 
>installation
>> for Debian)
>> 
>> 10p
>
>try
>C10p
>to create partition 10
>instead. It will ask you for its name and type
>
>more help on partition names and types is ie. in
>http://www.hk8.org/old_web/linux/run/appd_03.htm

Thanks sa9k063 and of course david howe, for the patience.
I found some very useful notes that overcome my problems with
partitioning. I reckon it's a real lack of understanding of Linux to
begin with.
Here's the site I found
http://penguinppc.org/bootloaders/yaboot/doc/mac-fdisk-basics.shtml

pharme
>
>hth,
>
>teefour
>
>



Re: USB wireless 802.11g dongle

2005-01-15 Thread Jack Malmostoso
Ciao Jesus Climent, nel tuo messaggio dicevi:

> Any progress on this?

They never replied to me.
I maybe write to some other address on the site.
I will do it right now, and open a new thread if news come out.

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MAC Mini

2005-01-15 Thread Richard L.
Debian PPC that works on MAC Mini would be awsome. 



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Re: MAC Mini

2005-01-15 Thread Colin Leroy
On 15 Jan 2005 at 11h01, Richard L. wrote:

Hi, 

> Debian PPC that works on MAC Mini would be awsome. 

I'm guessing Mac mini shares a lot with latest G4 ibooks. We'll know for
sure when someone tries it :)

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Debian on a FW drive

2005-01-15 Thread Gregory Seidman
This is sort of a long shot, but there's always the chance that someone has
managed it. I just bought my wife a Mac mini. She has little use for Linux
on it, but I'm always into playing with such things. For that matter, I
have a dual G4 tower that I haven't bothered putting Linux on.

What I'd like to do is buy an external Firewire drive and put Debian on it
such that I can plug it into any Mac (well, presumably only New World),
have it come up as recognized in the Mac bootloader that comes up when one
holds down Option, then chain load into something (yaboot, I expect) where
I can pick an appropriate kernel (G3, G4, G5, SMP, whatever). This is sort
of like a liveCD (with less autodetection), actually, but much more useful.

I brought up the idea of booting off an external Firewire drive a couple of
years ago, and no one had any good answers. Has that changed? Has anyone
managed to do what I'm talking about?

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Re: MAC Mini

2005-01-15 Thread Jack Malmostoso
Ciao Colin Leroy, nel tuo messaggio dicevi:

> I'm guessing Mac mini shares a lot with latest G4 ibooks.

I bet my 0.02 on that too!

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Re: Problems with partitioning

2005-01-15 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 04:12:39PM +0800, pharme wrote:
> Good day to all,
> 
> I am an absolute novice (5 days old) in Linux, with some years of

Please forget about woody, and try :

  http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/

if you have good network connnectivity, just download : 

  
http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/sarge_d-i/powerpc/rc2/sarge-powerpc-netinst.iso

burn it and boot it. and get the rest apart from the base system from the net.
If not on the page above there are also available torrent of the 14CD set of
woody, and so on.

in particular, the partitioner was entirely rewritten for sarge, and should
not cause any problem.

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Re: Debian on a FW drive

2005-01-15 Thread intrigeri
Gregory Seidman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I brought up the idea of booting off an external Firewire drive a
> couple of years ago, and no one had any good answers. Has that
> changed? Has anyone managed to do what I'm talking about?

Hello,

it is possible, but you have to play with ramdisks ; you'll find some
information related to this there :
   * http://131.204.27.45/ydl-howto/
   * 
http://forums.macgeneration.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=84176&goto=nextnewest

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Apple Cinema Display 20 XF86config?

2005-01-15 Thread Patrick Finnegan
[Reposting with a better subject]

On Thursday 13 January 2005 20:10, Shyamal Prasad wrote:
> "Patrick" == Patrick Finnegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Patrick> So, I'm trying to get my new G5 desktop set up, and was
> Patrick> having a hard time getting X to work, until I found out
> Patrick> that it aparently is required to run using the fbdev
> Patrick> driver.  Has there been any work on getting X to run
> Patrick> natively?  fbdev performace, while not horrible, isn't
> Patrick> really the best, and it'd be nice to have X directly
> Patrick> working with my Radeon 9600XT card.
>
> This will probably not be particularly helpful, but my G5 does not
> run with fbdev (as far as I can tell anyway). However, I do have a
> different card
>
> Section "Device"
> Identifier  "GeForce FX5200"
> Driver  "nv"
> BusID   "PCI:240:16:0"
> EndSection

So, maybe I'm not getting the video mode correct, or something.  Does
anyone have an XF86Config for an Apple Cinema Display 20, preferably
for an ATI Radeon video card, which I could look at?  Even one for an
NVidia card with a Cinema Display 20 would be helpful to look at, and
make sure I'm doing this right.

Thanks,

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Bug#290702: [powerpc] Default kernel installed for reboot is wrong, G5 PowerMac7,3

2005-01-15 Thread Shyamal Prasad

Package: installation-reports
Severity: important

INSTALL REPORT

Debian-installer-version: 20010114 Netinst Daily Build
uname -a: Default install fails (see below), expert mode 
  requires 2.6.8-power4
Date: January 15, 2005 1700 PST
Method: Boot off CD, used install-power4 kernel,
  used mirrors.kernel.org as apt source

Machine: Apple Dual 2.0 Ghz G5 Power Macintosh (PowerMac7,3)
Processor: 970FX
Memory: 512MB
Root Device: /devsda4 (on 160G SATA drive)

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
#
proc/proc   procdefaults0   0
/dev/sda4   /   ext3defaults,errors=remount-ro 0   1
/dev/sda3   noneswapsw  0   0
/dev/hda/media/cdrom0   iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0   0

Output of lspci and lspci -n:

lspci
:f0:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc.: Unknown device 0059
:f0:10.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 
5200 Ultra] (rev a1)
0001:00:01.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] AMD-8131 PCI-X Bridge 
(rev 12)
0001:00:02.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] AMD-8131 PCI-X Bridge 
(rev 12)
0001:00:03.0 PCI bridge: Apple Computer Inc. K2 HT-PCI Bridge
0001:00:04.0 PCI bridge: Apple Computer Inc. K2 HT-PCI Bridge
0001:00:05.0 PCI bridge: Apple Computer Inc. K2 HT-PCI Bridge
0001:00:06.0 PCI bridge: Apple Computer Inc. K2 HT-PCI Bridge
0001:00:07.0 PCI bridge: Apple Computer Inc. K2 HT-PCI Bridge
0001:01:07.0 ff00: Apple Computer Inc. K2 KeyLargo Mac/IO (rev 60)
0001:01:08.0 USB Controller: Apple Computer Inc. K2 KeyLargo USB
0001:01:09.0 USB Controller: Apple Computer Inc. K2 KeyLargo USB
0001:02:0b.0 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB (rev 43)
0001:02:0b.1 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB (rev 43)
0001:02:0b.2 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB 2.0 (rev 04)
0001:03:0d.0 ff00: Apple Computer Inc. K2 ATA/100
0001:03:0e.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Apple Computer Inc. K2 FireWire
0001:04:0f.0 Ethernet controller: Apple Computer Inc. K2 GMAC (Sun GEM)
0001:05:0c.0 IDE interface: ServerWorks: Unknown device 0240

lspci -n
:f0:0b.0 0600: 106b:0059
:f0:10.0 0300: 10de:0321 (rev a1)
0001:00:01.0 0604: 1022:7450 (rev 12)
0001:00:02.0 0604: 1022:7450 (rev 12)
0001:00:03.0 0604: 106b:0045
0001:00:04.0 0604: 106b:0046
0001:00:05.0 0604: 106b:0047
0001:00:06.0 0604: 106b:0048
0001:00:07.0 0604: 106b:0049
0001:01:07.0 ff00: 106b:0041 (rev 60)
0001:01:08.0 0c03: 106b:0040
0001:01:09.0 0c03: 106b:0040
0001:02:0b.0 0c03: 1033:0035 (rev 43)
0001:02:0b.1 0c03: 1033:0035 (rev 43)
0001:02:0b.2 0c03: 1033:00e0 (rev 04)
0001:03:0d.0 ff00: 106b:0043
0001:03:0e.0 0c00: 106b:0042
0001:04:0f.0 0200: 106b:004c
0001:05:0c.0 0101: 1166:0240

Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]  <-- LVM does not work
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[O]
Install boot loader:[O]
Reboot: [E]  <-- wrong kernel by default!

Comments/Problems:

G5 PowerMac7,3 (970FX CPU) needs the power4 kernel to boot.

However, when using the default install (install-power4 at the yaboot
prompt) and where the system is getting ready to reboot after
installing the base system it actually installs the
kernel-image-2.6.8-powerpc kernel, even though I chose -power4 for my
initial boot from CD! As a result the reboot (and so the install)
fails!

When using expert-power4 to install I get to pick my kernel so I can
choose kernel-image-2.6.8-power4 and the reboot is fine (since the
latest version in Sarge now supports the 970FX processor).

In expert mode I would say d-i works nearly perfectly. The only issue
is the RAID and LVM menu options don't actually work (discussed
recently on debian-boot and debian-powerpc, I will file a bug
separately). Great job folks! I have not installed Debian since before
Woody went stable: this is a huge improvement.

This machine has yet to transition to being my daily workstation so I
will be happy to help test d-i for this kind of hardware.


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Re: can't boot with my 2.6.9 kernel...

2005-01-15 Thread James Gibbs
On Fri, 2005-01-14 at 00:43 +0100, Nicolas Lebas wrote:
> Thank you everybody,
> i download the iso image of the linux rescue and burn it...
> 
> And so i could look at my yaboot.conf ; finaly the kernel-image package 
> i installed didn't create the symbolic link "initrd.img", and so i 
> create it and now it's ok...

I had the same problem when I updated with the new 2.6.9 kernel in
unstable about 3 weeks ago. I've updated kernels in the past with no
problem, but this time the initrd.img did not get made. I had to rename
everything and reinstall without formatting because I couldn't figure it
out. I saved the /etc/kernel-img.conf file and see it somehow got
changed to link_in_boot = no. Don't know how that happened.
James


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Re: Debian on a FW drive

2005-01-15 Thread Derrik Pates
Gregory Seidman wrote:
This is sort of a long shot, but there's always the chance that someone has
managed it. I just bought my wife a Mac mini. She has little use for Linux
on it, but I'm always into playing with such things. For that matter, I
have a dual G4 tower that I haven't bothered putting Linux on.
What I'd like to do is buy an external Firewire drive and put Debian on it
such that I can plug it into any Mac (well, presumably only New World),
have it come up as recognized in the Mac bootloader that comes up when one
holds down Option, then chain load into something (yaboot, I expect) where
I can pick an appropriate kernel (G3, G4, G5, SMP, whatever). This is sort
of like a liveCD (with less autodetection), actually, but much more useful.
I had to do something similar with my Powerbook Pismo for awhile, when 
its aging internal hard disk kicked the bucket. I hacked out a little 
script (I'd been thinking about it for awhile, but had to make it work 
then); I'm attaching it to this e-mail. You should be able to drop it 
into /etc/mkinitrd/scripts, and if you can chroot into the filesystem on 
the Firewire drive, then remove (and purge) and reinstall the 
kernel-image package (so that the initrd gets rebuilt), it should work.

It's not a foolproof answer, and it could be easier, but it can be made 
to work; I was fortunately able to make use of it, so my Powerbook was 
still useful while I waited for a new internal drive.

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Re: Last ditch on PlanB driver

2005-01-15 Thread david
Hi all
Some progress with planb perhaps..
i generated a 2.4.19 kernel from debian sources and enabled the planb 
module. dmesg seems to report this is ok but the xawtv side seems  to 
remain problematic.

i have made some notes on my weblog if you are interested...
http://nitro.qednet.biz/cgi-bin/blosxom.cgi
when i return i am going to play with the X11 and framebuffer options 
but the ioctl messages are a bit of a worry ;)

cheers
david
Sean Jewett wrote:
Has anyone managed to get the planb driver to work (or better yet, with
the v4l stuff)?  If so, how?  What kernel, what distro, what phase of the
moon?
I have beat my head with Debian and now Yellow Dog to no avail.  My last 
ditch effort was to install YDL 2.3 and then install the RPM's Michel 
offers on his website:

http://www.cpu.lu/~mlan/planb.html
I patched the 2.4.18 kernel with the patch he offers above that.  Either 
2.4.18 does not work with that RPM (in which case, it might be nice to 
know) and only works with the 2.2's he offers, or I can only conclude this 
is a cruel joke.  I'm seeing the same thing with the xawtv RPM and 2.4.18 
kernel that I saw under Debian, that being this error:

ioctl: VIDIOCSCHAN(0,Composite,flags=0x0,type=2,norm=3): Invalid argument
I would appreciate if anyone can shed light on how they got the driver /
v4l stuff to work.
At a minimum, until I hear of a good solution I hope someone considering 
using the planb driver on their Macs will think twice.  At least this 
message will be in the archives so others won't devote as much time as I 
have.

Thanks,
Sean...
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Emacs: eshell can't receive C-q C-c ?

2005-01-15 Thread William Xuuu

Hi, folks.

I'm using an ibook. When in eshell, it seems that eshell can't receive C-c
signal to kill a process ? e.g, find and then try C-q C-c. It used to work
fine on my pc. Any ideas?

-- 
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Problems with partitioning

2005-01-15 Thread pharme
Good day to all,

I am an absolute novice (5 days old) in Linux, with some years of
experience with Mac OS. I am trying to install a Linux distro in an
unproductive G3 Powerbook (New World Macs)

Here's what i have done:.

Using Mac OS Disk Utility partition my 12 GB harddrive to 2 partitions,
both approx 5.5gb (Mac OS extended)

Upon booting with debian cd set (cd 1 Debian 3.0 30r4 PPC-binary),
things went smoothly, only when i arrived at the partitioning (with
'mac-fdisk') part, I can't seemed to proceed further. Here's the
problem:

cmd c - create new LINUX partition

First Block: 10p  
(targeted to the partition number i have allocated for the installation
for Debian)

Length : 10p
(to indicate use of the entire partition)

and when it comes to 'Name of partition', whatever names i try to give,
single word or string with quotes, it just prompted:

"requested base and length is not within an existing free partition"

I must have missed something somewhere, can anyone help with my
problems?

thanks 

pharme 



Problems with partitioning

2005-01-15 Thread Sawn Hwang
Good day to all,

I am an absolute novice (5 days old) in Linux, with some years of
experience with Mac OS. I am trying to install a Linux distro in an
unproductive G3 Powerbook (New World Macs)

Here's what i have done:.

Using Mac OS Disk Utility partition my 12 GB harddrive to 2 partitions,
both approx 5.5gb (Mac OS extended)

Upon booting with debian cd set (cd 1 Debian 3.0 30r4 PPC-binary),
things went smoothly, only when i arrived at the partitioning (with
'mac-fdisk') part, I can't seemed to proceed further. Here's the
problem:

cmd c - create new LINUX partition

First Block: 10p  
(targeted to the partition number i have allocated for the installation
for Debian)

Length : 10p
(to indicate use of the entire partition)

and when it comes to 'Name of partition', whatever names i try to give,
single word or string with quotes, it just prompted:

"requested base and length is not within an existing free partition"

I must have missed something somewhere, can anyone help with my
problems?

thanks 

pharme 



Re: Problems with partitioning

2005-01-15 Thread david howe

there are many ways to do this, I suggest you read the ppc install howto at
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/powerpc/install
for starters.

from my experience with mac linux installs I find that setting up the 
hard disk with the mac HD tool is a good way to go, depending on how 
much space the MacOS deserves, you will need a minimum of 3 partitions 
(if you use bootx) or 4 if you intend to use yaboot. I think you can 
safely ignore the yaboot partition and let the installer do that part 
but my memory is sketchy :)


When u use the mac hd setup tool, select custom partitioning and create 
2 unix partitions as well as the mac partition. Create the unix 
partition at first then a swap then a mac HFS partition. If you like you 
can name the first unix partition "/" (without the quotes) and the 2nd 
one "swap". the mac name is irrelevant.


all of this will help to create a more sensible partitioning when you 
get to the linux partition editor.


hope that helps

david

pharme wrote:


Good day to all,

I am an absolute novice (5 days old) in Linux, with some years of
experience with Mac OS. I am trying to install a Linux distro in an
unproductive G3 Powerbook (New World Macs)

Here's what i have done:.

Using Mac OS Disk Utility partition my 12 GB harddrive to 2 partitions,
both approx 5.5gb (Mac OS extended)

Upon booting with debian cd set (cd 1 Debian 3.0 30r4 PPC-binary),
things went smoothly, only when i arrived at the partitioning (with
'mac-fdisk') part, I can't seemed to proceed further. Here's the
problem:

cmd c - create new LINUX partition

First Block: 10p  
(targeted to the partition number i have allocated for the installation

for Debian)

Length : 10p
(to indicate use of the entire partition)

and when it comes to 'Name of partition', whatever names i try to give,
single word or string with quotes, it just prompted:

"requested base and length is not within an existing free partition"

I must have missed something somewhere, can anyone help with my
problems?

thanks 

pharme 



 





Re: G5 blade center under debian

2005-01-15 Thread Cajus Pollmeier


Am 15.01.2005 um 00:42 schrieb Anton Blanchard:



Hi,


I've just updated the installer image to have no POWER4+ optimization,
but the language chooser seems to be broken. I've no idea why.


Nice, it gets a lot further on POWER3 now :) It stops right here:

time_init: decrementer frequency = 93.748235 MHz
time_init: processor frequency   = 375.00 MHz

I wonder if serial and serial console is disabled in this kernel...


It worked on 2.6.9 which was the last one I tested with serial
connections. Will check 2.6.10...


It also stops at the same point on a JS20 blade:

time_init: decrementer frequency = 199.839239 MHz
time_init: processor frequency   = 1600.00 MHz

Is hvc console disabled too? :)


I can't test, but IBM tried the installer on all pSeries machines
they had in access for testing and the installer worked for them
with HMC (is this identical to hvc? Anything special needed
here?) and direct console. I'm not 100% sure if we need to
disable the pSeries support for your hardware.

Can you send me a working kernel configuration for your
hardware? I can compare and check if there needs to be
another kernel flavor...

Cheers,
Cajus



install docos for debian on dual g5

2005-01-15 Thread Dean Hamstead

the question of linux on dual g5s is so regular
im wondering if someone could ut together some
documents and link them off the debian ports page

the existing linked documents were invaluable in
my first few times of putting linux on mac hardware
(much like the i386 install docos), so hat goes
of to the authors of them. and heres my vote
to encourage someone to cut back some list noise
and help the whole world out.

or someone send me a dual g5, ill install then
write up some docos.

Dean
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Re: Problems with partitioning

2005-01-15 Thread pharme
On Saturday, January 15, 2005 4:30 PM, david howe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote,

>there are many ways to do this, I suggest you read the ppc install
howto 
>at
>http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/powerpc/install
>for starters.

I have printed a PDF version of the install manual.
Chapter 6 indicates little of the steps to complete the partitioning
within mac-fdisk. I searched thru the doc in the cd and found a quite
relevant text on the partitioning editor. Still I am facing glitches
filing in the right expression after each prompt.
>
>from my experience with mac linux installs I find that setting up the 
>hard disk with the mac HD tool is a good way to go, depending on how 
>much space the MacOS deserves, you will need a minimum of 3 partitions 
>(if you use bootx) or 4 if you intend to use yaboot. I think you can 
>safely ignore the yaboot partition and let the installer do that part 
>but my memory is sketchy :)
>

>When u use the mac hd setup tool, select custom partitioning and create 
>2 unix partitions as well as the mac partition. Create the unix 
>partition at first then a swap then a mac HFS partition. If you like
you 
>can name the first unix partition "/" (without the quotes) and the 2nd 
>one "swap". the mac name is irrelevant.

I took from your pointers and repartition my HD using the mac disk
utility. Giving 3 partitions namely roots, swap and mac os, in sequence.
With roots and swap in UFS type.
>
>all of this will help to create a more sensible partitioning when you 
>get to the linux partition editor.

* When booted with the cd, under partitioning, cmd c allows me to create
new partitions, then it prompts for First Block, according to doc. I am
to name the partition number (10p), then follows with the prompt on
Length (10p). It then asked for Name of partition: any name given will
be prompted by this: requested base and lenght is not within an
exisiting free partition.

I am beginning to wonder if the above * is at all necessary, if not, how
then can i go about setting a linux root partition and a swap partition.

I am lost, honestly.

Any pointers will be appreciated.

pharme


>
>hope that helps
>
>david
>
>pharme wrote:
>
>>Good day to all,
>>
>>I am an absolute novice (5 days old) in Linux, with some years of
>>experience with Mac OS. I am trying to install a Linux distro in an
>>unproductive G3 Powerbook (New World Macs)
>>
>>Here's what i have done:.
>>
>>Using Mac OS Disk Utility partition my 12 GB harddrive to 2
partitions,
>>both approx 5.5gb (Mac OS extended)
>>
>>Upon booting with debian cd set (cd 1 Debian 3.0 30r4 PPC-binary),
>>things went smoothly, only when i arrived at the partitioning (with
>>'mac-fdisk') part, I can't seemed to proceed further. Here's the
>>problem:
>>
>>cmd c - create new LINUX partition
>>
>>First Block: 10p  
>>(targeted to the partition number i have allocated for the
installation
>>for Debian)
>>
>>Length : 10p
>>(to indicate use of the entire partition)
>>
>>and when it comes to 'Name of partition', whatever names i try to
give,
>>single word or string with quotes, it just prompted:
>>
>>"requested base and length is not within an existing free partition"
>>
>>I must have missed something somewhere, can anyone help with my
>>problems?
>>
>>thanks 
>>
>>pharme 
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>



Re: USB wireless 802.11g dongle

2005-01-15 Thread Jesus Climent
On Mon, Dec 27, 2004 at 06:33:23PM +0100, Jack Malmostoso wrote:
> Ciao Jack Malmostoso, nel tuo messaggio dicevi:
> 
> > http://home.arcor.de/ironpanther/usbstick/
> > 
> > would be nice to know if Mr.Ironpanther here is the author of the driver
> > or is just "hosting" it for unknown reasons.
> 
> I finally talked to this person, and he told me that had it uploaded on
> his webspace to have a friend of his to help him with that driver.
> 
> He also told me that managed to get it work on SuSE, and on debian
> compiled fine but could only ping and not use the dongle at full.
> 
> That's all I know, I am writing to ZyDas right now.

Any progress on this?

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Re: Problems with partitioning

2005-01-15 Thread sa9k063

Sawn Hwang wrote:


cmd c - create new LINUX partition



C (or c) only


(targeted to the partition number i have allocated for the installation
for Debian)

10p


try
C10p
to create partition 10
instead. It will ask you for its name and type

more help on partition names and types is ie. in
http://www.hk8.org/old_web/linux/run/appd_03.htm

hth,

teefour



Re: Problems with partitioning

2005-01-15 Thread pharme
On Saturday, January 15, 2005 10:28 PM, sa9k063
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote,

>Sawn Hwang wrote:
>
>> cmd c - create new LINUX partition
>> 
>
>C (or c) only
>
>> (targeted to the partition number i have allocated for the 
>installation
>> for Debian)
>> 
>> 10p
>
>try
>C10p
>to create partition 10
>instead. It will ask you for its name and type
>
>more help on partition names and types is ie. in
>http://www.hk8.org/old_web/linux/run/appd_03.htm

Thanks sa9k063 and of course david howe, for the patience.
I found some very useful notes that overcome my problems with
partitioning. I reckon it's a real lack of understanding of Linux to
begin with.
Here's the site I found
http://penguinppc.org/bootloaders/yaboot/doc/mac-fdisk-basics.shtml

pharme
>
>hth,
>
>teefour
>
>



Re: USB wireless 802.11g dongle

2005-01-15 Thread Jack Malmostoso
Ciao Jesus Climent, nel tuo messaggio dicevi:

> Any progress on this?

They never replied to me.
I maybe write to some other address on the site.
I will do it right now, and open a new thread if news come out.

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>minix.



MAC Mini

2005-01-15 Thread Richard L.
Debian PPC that works on MAC Mini would be awsome. 




Re: MAC Mini

2005-01-15 Thread Colin Leroy
On 15 Jan 2005 at 11h01, Richard L. wrote:

Hi, 

> Debian PPC that works on MAC Mini would be awsome. 

I'm guessing Mac mini shares a lot with latest G4 ibooks. We'll know for
sure when someone tries it :)

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Debian on a FW drive

2005-01-15 Thread Gregory Seidman
This is sort of a long shot, but there's always the chance that someone has
managed it. I just bought my wife a Mac mini. She has little use for Linux
on it, but I'm always into playing with such things. For that matter, I
have a dual G4 tower that I haven't bothered putting Linux on.

What I'd like to do is buy an external Firewire drive and put Debian on it
such that I can plug it into any Mac (well, presumably only New World),
have it come up as recognized in the Mac bootloader that comes up when one
holds down Option, then chain load into something (yaboot, I expect) where
I can pick an appropriate kernel (G3, G4, G5, SMP, whatever). This is sort
of like a liveCD (with less autodetection), actually, but much more useful.

I brought up the idea of booting off an external Firewire drive a couple of
years ago, and no one had any good answers. Has that changed? Has anyone
managed to do what I'm talking about?

--Greg



Re: MAC Mini

2005-01-15 Thread Jack Malmostoso
Ciao Colin Leroy, nel tuo messaggio dicevi:

> I'm guessing Mac mini shares a lot with latest G4 ibooks.

I bet my 0.02 on that too!

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>minix.



Re: Problems with partitioning

2005-01-15 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 04:12:39PM +0800, pharme wrote:
> Good day to all,
> 
> I am an absolute novice (5 days old) in Linux, with some years of

Please forget about woody, and try :

  http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/

if you have good network connnectivity, just download : 

  
http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/sarge_d-i/powerpc/rc2/sarge-powerpc-netinst.iso

burn it and boot it. and get the rest apart from the base system from the net.
If not on the page above there are also available torrent of the 14CD set of
woody, and so on.

in particular, the partitioner was entirely rewritten for sarge, and should
not cause any problem.

Friendly,

Sven Luther



Re: Debian on a FW drive

2005-01-15 Thread intrigeri
Gregory Seidman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I brought up the idea of booting off an external Firewire drive a
> couple of years ago, and no one had any good answers. Has that
> changed? Has anyone managed to do what I'm talking about?

Hello,

it is possible, but you have to play with ramdisks ; you'll find some
information related to this there :
   * http://131.204.27.45/ydl-howto/
   * 
http://forums.macgeneration.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=84176&goto=nextnewest

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Apple Cinema Display 20 XF86config?

2005-01-15 Thread Patrick Finnegan
[Reposting with a better subject]

On Thursday 13 January 2005 20:10, Shyamal Prasad wrote:
> "Patrick" == Patrick Finnegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Patrick> So, I'm trying to get my new G5 desktop set up, and was
> Patrick> having a hard time getting X to work, until I found out
> Patrick> that it aparently is required to run using the fbdev
> Patrick> driver.  Has there been any work on getting X to run
> Patrick> natively?  fbdev performace, while not horrible, isn't
> Patrick> really the best, and it'd be nice to have X directly
> Patrick> working with my Radeon 9600XT card.
>
> This will probably not be particularly helpful, but my G5 does not
> run with fbdev (as far as I can tell anyway). However, I do have a
> different card
>
> Section "Device"
> Identifier  "GeForce FX5200"
> Driver  "nv"
> BusID   "PCI:240:16:0"
> EndSection

So, maybe I'm not getting the video mode correct, or something.  Does
anyone have an XF86Config for an Apple Cinema Display 20, preferably
for an ATI Radeon video card, which I could look at?  Even one for an
NVidia card with a Cinema Display 20 would be helpful to look at, and
make sure I'm doing this right.

Thanks,

Pat
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Bug#290702: [powerpc] Default kernel installed for reboot is wrong, G5 PowerMac7,3

2005-01-15 Thread Shyamal Prasad

Package: installation-reports
Severity: important

INSTALL REPORT

Debian-installer-version: 20010114 Netinst Daily Build
uname -a: Default install fails (see below), expert mode 
  requires 2.6.8-power4
Date: January 15, 2005 1700 PST
Method: Boot off CD, used install-power4 kernel,
  used mirrors.kernel.org as apt source

Machine: Apple Dual 2.0 Ghz G5 Power Macintosh (PowerMac7,3)
Processor: 970FX
Memory: 512MB
Root Device: /devsda4 (on 160G SATA drive)

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
#
proc/proc   procdefaults0   0
/dev/sda4   /   ext3defaults,errors=remount-ro 0   1
/dev/sda3   noneswapsw  0   0
/dev/hda/media/cdrom0   iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0   0

Output of lspci and lspci -n:

lspci
:f0:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc.: Unknown device 0059
:f0:10.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 
5200 Ultra] (rev a1)
0001:00:01.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] AMD-8131 PCI-X Bridge 
(rev 12)
0001:00:02.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] AMD-8131 PCI-X Bridge 
(rev 12)
0001:00:03.0 PCI bridge: Apple Computer Inc. K2 HT-PCI Bridge
0001:00:04.0 PCI bridge: Apple Computer Inc. K2 HT-PCI Bridge
0001:00:05.0 PCI bridge: Apple Computer Inc. K2 HT-PCI Bridge
0001:00:06.0 PCI bridge: Apple Computer Inc. K2 HT-PCI Bridge
0001:00:07.0 PCI bridge: Apple Computer Inc. K2 HT-PCI Bridge
0001:01:07.0 ff00: Apple Computer Inc. K2 KeyLargo Mac/IO (rev 60)
0001:01:08.0 USB Controller: Apple Computer Inc. K2 KeyLargo USB
0001:01:09.0 USB Controller: Apple Computer Inc. K2 KeyLargo USB
0001:02:0b.0 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB (rev 43)
0001:02:0b.1 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB (rev 43)
0001:02:0b.2 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB 2.0 (rev 04)
0001:03:0d.0 ff00: Apple Computer Inc. K2 ATA/100
0001:03:0e.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Apple Computer Inc. K2 FireWire
0001:04:0f.0 Ethernet controller: Apple Computer Inc. K2 GMAC (Sun GEM)
0001:05:0c.0 IDE interface: ServerWorks: Unknown device 0240

lspci -n
:f0:0b.0 0600: 106b:0059
:f0:10.0 0300: 10de:0321 (rev a1)
0001:00:01.0 0604: 1022:7450 (rev 12)
0001:00:02.0 0604: 1022:7450 (rev 12)
0001:00:03.0 0604: 106b:0045
0001:00:04.0 0604: 106b:0046
0001:00:05.0 0604: 106b:0047
0001:00:06.0 0604: 106b:0048
0001:00:07.0 0604: 106b:0049
0001:01:07.0 ff00: 106b:0041 (rev 60)
0001:01:08.0 0c03: 106b:0040
0001:01:09.0 0c03: 106b:0040
0001:02:0b.0 0c03: 1033:0035 (rev 43)
0001:02:0b.1 0c03: 1033:0035 (rev 43)
0001:02:0b.2 0c03: 1033:00e0 (rev 04)
0001:03:0d.0 ff00: 106b:0043
0001:03:0e.0 0c00: 106b:0042
0001:04:0f.0 0200: 106b:004c
0001:05:0c.0 0101: 1166:0240

Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]  <-- LVM does not work
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[O]
Install boot loader:[O]
Reboot: [E]  <-- wrong kernel by default!

Comments/Problems:

G5 PowerMac7,3 (970FX CPU) needs the power4 kernel to boot.

However, when using the default install (install-power4 at the yaboot
prompt) and where the system is getting ready to reboot after
installing the base system it actually installs the
kernel-image-2.6.8-powerpc kernel, even though I chose -power4 for my
initial boot from CD! As a result the reboot (and so the install)
fails!

When using expert-power4 to install I get to pick my kernel so I can
choose kernel-image-2.6.8-power4 and the reboot is fine (since the
latest version in Sarge now supports the 970FX processor).

In expert mode I would say d-i works nearly perfectly. The only issue
is the RAID and LVM menu options don't actually work (discussed
recently on debian-boot and debian-powerpc, I will file a bug
separately). Great job folks! I have not installed Debian since before
Woody went stable: this is a huge improvement.

This machine has yet to transition to being my daily workstation so I
will be happy to help test d-i for this kind of hardware.



Re: can't boot with my 2.6.9 kernel...

2005-01-15 Thread James Gibbs
On Fri, 2005-01-14 at 00:43 +0100, Nicolas Lebas wrote:
> Thank you everybody,
> i download the iso image of the linux rescue and burn it...
> 
> And so i could look at my yaboot.conf ; finaly the kernel-image package 
> i installed didn't create the symbolic link "initrd.img", and so i 
> create it and now it's ok...

I had the same problem when I updated with the new 2.6.9 kernel in
unstable about 3 weeks ago. I've updated kernels in the past with no
problem, but this time the initrd.img did not get made. I had to rename
everything and reinstall without formatting because I couldn't figure it
out. I saved the /etc/kernel-img.conf file and see it somehow got
changed to link_in_boot = no. Don't know how that happened.
James



Re: Debian on a FW drive

2005-01-15 Thread Derrik Pates

Gregory Seidman wrote:

This is sort of a long shot, but there's always the chance that someone has
managed it. I just bought my wife a Mac mini. She has little use for Linux
on it, but I'm always into playing with such things. For that matter, I
have a dual G4 tower that I haven't bothered putting Linux on.

What I'd like to do is buy an external Firewire drive and put Debian on it
such that I can plug it into any Mac (well, presumably only New World),
have it come up as recognized in the Mac bootloader that comes up when one
holds down Option, then chain load into something (yaboot, I expect) where
I can pick an appropriate kernel (G3, G4, G5, SMP, whatever). This is sort
of like a liveCD (with less autodetection), actually, but much more useful.


I had to do something similar with my Powerbook Pismo for awhile, when 
its aging internal hard disk kicked the bucket. I hacked out a little 
script (I'd been thinking about it for awhile, but had to make it work 
then); I'm attaching it to this e-mail. You should be able to drop it 
into /etc/mkinitrd/scripts, and if you can chroot into the filesystem on 
the Firewire drive, then remove (and purge) and reinstall the 
kernel-image package (so that the initrd gets rebuilt), it should work.


It's not a foolproof answer, and it could be easier, but it can be made 
to work; I was fortunately able to make use of it, so my Powerbook was 
still useful while I waited for a new internal drive.


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Derrik Pates
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