Re: Long double alignment test
Brett Cundal wrote: > I'm maintaining GNU Smalltalk, which is having problems building on > most 64-bit platforms. I'm having difficulty tracking these problems > down, so I'm asking for some assistance from anyone who has access to > these platforms (any DD, I believe). > Anyone know if this works? Could someone please run this on each of the archs we support (particularly ia64) and report the results to me? Here's another 64-bit arch to compare to, I was curious about the answer myself. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp$ uname -a Linux moltar 2.4.26-sparc64 #1 Sat Apr 24 01:43:10 EDT 2004 sparc64 GNU/Linux [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp$ ./longalign # your code sizeof(foo)=16 sizeof(align)=8 sizeof(f2)=32 union may be aligned on 8 byte boundaries. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp$ ./longalign2 # Neil's code char: 1 short: 2 int: 4 long: 4 long long: 8 void*: 4 float: 4 double: 8 long double: 8 - David A. Riggs
Executing with root priviliges
I'm in the process of writing (and with help, packaging) a piece of software which needs to be executed as root. It happens to be a graphical app for configuring a laptop, and is the sort of thing that regular non-root users on a "single user" system would want to run. Looking through installed programs in my Gnome menu, I see several apps like this which are wrapped with a call to Gksu. After talking with several different people, I see a few different preferred ways to gain root priviliges for apps like this... - gksu, users who want to really run it as root - su, users who refuse to install any excess X11 apps(?!) - sudo, users who've given themselves not-quite root access to certain apps or passwordless access (that's my camp) Anyway, I don't want my app to have a dependancy on gksu, as it technically doesn't have anything to do with my application, and from just talking to a few people appears to not be a universally accepted solution (I'm sure there are other alternatives that people prefer). So, my question is...is there, or should there be, some virtual package or system-wide or user-wide preference for gaining root priviliges under X11? What's the best current way to get this into the menu system with the least amount of pain for both the packager and the user? -- - David A. Riggs
Re: Executing with root priviliges
Eike "zyro" Sauer wrote: Goswin von Brederlow schrieb: There is also "ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] -X foobar". ...and kdesu... Right, thanks, but that's really not my point though...Does anyone have any feed back on my real question (quoted below), or should I ask on debian.devel? The real question: > So, my question is...is there, or should there be, some virtual > package or system-wide or user-wide preference for gaining root > priviliges under X11? What's the best current way to get this > into the menu system with the least amount of pain for both > the packager and the user? -- - David A. Riggs
Re: Executing with root priviliges
Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Moin Goswin! Goswin von Brederlow schrieb am Samstag, den 05. Juni 2004: > So, my question is...is there, or should there be, some virtual > package or system-wide or user-wide preference for gaining root > priviliges under X11? What's the best current way to get this > into the menu system with the least amount of pain for both > the packager and the user? Get all the root gaining mechanisms maintainers to sit together and work out a common mechanism to register menu items that need root. Some x-gain-root package that all mechanism and all root needing There is already the script su-to-root in the current menu package which does almost what you want - looking around and choosing a su-like program. Do you know if all the mentioned su-like programs mentioned are supported? Wow, I didn't even realize that 'menu' provided this script. A quick glance reveals that 'su-to-root' tries the following in this order: 1. gksu 2. kdesu 3. an xterm prompting with su I propose that 'su-to-root' look at a configuration file for a preferred method, first in /etc and then in ~/ so users may specify their preference. If people think this is a good idea, I'll place a wishlist bug for 'menu' and a patch. - David A. Riggs
Re: Long double alignment test
Brett Cundal wrote: > I'm maintaining GNU Smalltalk, which is having problems building on > most 64-bit platforms. I'm having difficulty tracking these problems > down, so I'm asking for some assistance from anyone who has access to > these platforms (any DD, I believe). > Anyone know if this works? Could someone please run this on each of the archs we support (particularly ia64) and report the results to me? Here's another 64-bit arch to compare to, I was curious about the answer myself. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp$ uname -a Linux moltar 2.4.26-sparc64 #1 Sat Apr 24 01:43:10 EDT 2004 sparc64 GNU/Linux [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp$ ./longalign # your code sizeof(foo)=16 sizeof(align)=8 sizeof(f2)=32 union may be aligned on 8 byte boundaries. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp$ ./longalign2 # Neil's code char: 1 short: 2 int: 4 long: 4 long long: 8 void*: 4 float: 4 double: 8 long double: 8 - David A. Riggs -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Executing with root priviliges
I'm in the process of writing (and with help, packaging) a piece of software which needs to be executed as root. It happens to be a graphical app for configuring a laptop, and is the sort of thing that regular non-root users on a "single user" system would want to run. Looking through installed programs in my Gnome menu, I see several apps like this which are wrapped with a call to Gksu. After talking with several different people, I see a few different preferred ways to gain root priviliges for apps like this... - gksu, users who want to really run it as root - su, users who refuse to install any excess X11 apps(?!) - sudo, users who've given themselves not-quite root access to certain apps or passwordless access (that's my camp) Anyway, I don't want my app to have a dependancy on gksu, as it technically doesn't have anything to do with my application, and from just talking to a few people appears to not be a universally accepted solution (I'm sure there are other alternatives that people prefer). So, my question is...is there, or should there be, some virtual package or system-wide or user-wide preference for gaining root priviliges under X11? What's the best current way to get this into the menu system with the least amount of pain for both the packager and the user? -- - David A. Riggs -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Executing with root priviliges
Eike "zyro" Sauer wrote: Goswin von Brederlow schrieb: There is also "ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] -X foobar". ...and kdesu... Right, thanks, but that's really not my point though...Does anyone have any feed back on my real question (quoted below), or should I ask on debian.devel? The real question: > So, my question is...is there, or should there be, some virtual > package or system-wide or user-wide preference for gaining root > priviliges under X11? What's the best current way to get this > into the menu system with the least amount of pain for both > the packager and the user? -- - David A. Riggs -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Executing with root priviliges
Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Moin Goswin! Goswin von Brederlow schrieb am Samstag, den 05. Juni 2004: > So, my question is...is there, or should there be, some virtual > package or system-wide or user-wide preference for gaining root > priviliges under X11? What's the best current way to get this > into the menu system with the least amount of pain for both > the packager and the user? Get all the root gaining mechanisms maintainers to sit together and work out a common mechanism to register menu items that need root. Some x-gain-root package that all mechanism and all root needing There is already the script su-to-root in the current menu package which does almost what you want - looking around and choosing a su-like program. Do you know if all the mentioned su-like programs mentioned are supported? Wow, I didn't even realize that 'menu' provided this script. A quick glance reveals that 'su-to-root' tries the following in this order: 1. gksu 2. kdesu 3. an xterm prompting with su I propose that 'su-to-root' look at a configuration file for a preferred method, first in /etc and then in ~/ so users may specify their preference. If people think this is a good idea, I'll place a wishlist bug for 'menu' and a patch. - David A. Riggs -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
