Re: motion, 2.6, and v4l loopback device [WAS Re: motion - please do a sponsored upload for me (new revision with debconf fix)]

2004-08-25 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 01:48:26AM +0200, Frederik Dannemare wrote:
> > BTW, what is the deal with motion and 2.6 kernels ? I am under the
> > understanding that it requires the videoloop or whatever module,
> > which is not only abandoned upstream, but also not yet ported to 2.6
> > kernels.
> 
> I have been using motion and 2.6 without the v4l loopback device. I 

Ok.

> don't know much about it, but I think it was initially developed for 
> debugging motion in real-time or something like that.

I have been helping someone, who has a customer who is using linux with a set
of surveillance cameras. I think they use the vloopback device to have more
than one app access the video device, namely motion and then vlc for video
streaming server.

Friendly,

Sven Luther



RFS: gtklp-0.9u

2004-08-25 Thread Zak B. Elep
Hi guys, gonna make this quick, as I'm in a public Knoppix box:

I've just finished a very *late* deb of gtklp-0.9u. Nothing really worth
noting, except that it might get into Sarge (but, in all probability, it won't
:()

Here's the signed-changes file:

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Format: 1.7
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 08:59:13 +0800
Source: gtklp
Binary: gtklp
Architecture: source i386
Version: 0.9u-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Zak B. Elep <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Changed-By: Zak B. Elep <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Description: 
 gtklp  - Frontend for CUPS written in GTK2
Changes: 
 gtklp (0.9u-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * New upstream release
Files: 
 87eaa908c502523d0831670e72c6b8a1 626 x11 optional gtklp_0.9u-1.dsc
 409a78b6e69ebbb1667a0becdddf74c3 1018305 x11 optional gtklp_0.9u.orig.tar.gz
 04e7eb572a88fced7701b5dcae9582a5 4294 x11 optional gtklp_0.9u-1.diff.gz
 dc165cf0dd985cb5af080dbd9da51639 144648 x11 optional gtklp_0.9u-1_i386.deb

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux)

iD8DBQFBKpb1V4ex/fpThR0RAiuyAJ4hJ+MVAouKc/PYRS2A8RqSicMeTgCeNWR0
YAytlmw+8+W4babMFw7fbdk=
=73Bl
-END PGP SIGNATURE-

Again, I'm posting this so you guys may know and sponsor (re: ametzler ;) I
appreciate any flak, though...

Thanks In Advance,
Zakame
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[zakame@spunge.org: Re: RFS: gtklp-0.9u]

2004-08-25 Thread Zak B. Elep

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On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 03:58:30AM -0500, Zak B. Elep wrote:
> Hi guys, gonna make this quick, as I'm in a public Knoppix box:
> 
> I've just finished a very *late* deb of gtklp-0.9u. Nothing really worth
> noting, except that it might get into Sarge (but, in all probability, it won't
> :()
> 

Oops! I forgot the link: http://zakame.spunge.org/pub/debian/gtklp

Cheers,
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version numbers in testing-proposed-updates (was: current specialities for NMUs)

2004-08-25 Thread Frank Küster
Hi, 

when we last had a freeze, I wasn't a DD yet, therefore this was new for
me: 

Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in debian-devel:

> These packages are frozen, i.e. newer uploads to unstable won't go into
> testing. The official way is to upload also a package to testing. To upload
> a package to testing (or: testing-proposed-updates, this are just
> synonyms; tpu in short), it is necessary that the version number of the
> upload is smaller than the current installed package in unstable, and
> larger than the current installed package in testing. So, normally, you
> have to upload a package (directly or in whichever delayed you consider
> appropriate), and the version for testing in one more day delayed. 

Will this also be valid for non-base/standard packages, once everything
is frozen?

What version numbers are usually used? If it's no a NMU, does one upload
an artificially high version number (debian revision of -50 or so) to
unstable, just to be sure not to run out of maintainer-upload version
numbers for testing-proposed-updates? Or is it normal to use NMU version
numbers even for maintainer uploads to testing-proposed-updates?

Regards, Frank
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Re: version numbers in testing-proposed-updates (was: current specialities for NMUs)

2004-08-25 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 03:28:29PM +0200, Frank K?ster wrote:
> Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in debian-devel:
> > These packages are frozen, i.e. newer uploads to unstable won't go into
> > testing. The official way is to upload also a package to testing. To upload
> > a package to testing (or: testing-proposed-updates, this are just
> > synonyms; tpu in short), it is necessary that the version number of the
> > upload is smaller than the current installed package in unstable, and
> > larger than the current installed package in testing. So, normally, you
> > have to upload a package (directly or in whichever delayed you consider
> > appropriate), and the version for testing in one more day delayed. 
> 
> Will this also be valid for non-base/standard packages, once everything
> is frozen?

Yes, unless the sid version already moved on. Versions in testing cannot
be higher than those of unstable, so this must be this way.
 
> What version numbers are usually used? If it's no a NMU, does one upload
> an artificially high version number (debian revision of -50 or so) to
> unstable, just to be sure not to run out of maintainer-upload version
> numbers for testing-proposed-updates? Or is it normal to use NMU version
> numbers even for maintainer uploads to testing-proposed-updates?

You never run out of maintainer version numbers, since can you always
add parts.

Suppose you're currentlat at -3, then you can of course still upload -4,
-5 etc to sid, which is the common way. If you want a sarge backport of
fixes to sid, use -3sarge1. If it's a Non-Maintainer backport, use
-3.sarge1.

With this method, one dot in maintainer revision means NMU (with the
before-dot part being the latest MU), zero dots means MU, a property
nice to have.

Unfortunately, -3sarge1 sorts before -3.1, so if you want as maintainer
to backport a NMU to sarge, you're out of luck for straightforward
solutions.

--Jeroen

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Re: version numbers in testing-proposed-updates (was: current specialities for NMUs)

2004-08-25 Thread Andreas Metzler
On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 03:28:29PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote:
> Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in debian-devel:
> 
> > These packages are frozen, i.e. newer uploads to unstable won't go
> > into testing. The official way is to upload also a package to
> > testing. To upload a package to testing (or:
> > testing-proposed-updates, this are just synonyms; tpu in short),
> > it is necessary that the version number of the upload is smaller
> > than the current installed package in unstable, and larger than
> > the current installed package in testing. 
[...] 
> What version numbers are usually used?

Common practise seems to be keep using normale versioning for sid
and 1.2.3-4.sarge.1 for tpu.
  cu andreas



Re: version numbers in testing-proposed-updates

2004-08-25 Thread Frank Küster
Jeroen van Wolffelaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[clear explanation]

thanks very much.

> Unfortunately, -3sarge1 sorts before -3.1, so if you want as maintainer
> to backport a NMU to sarge, you're out of luck for straightforward
> solutions.

I'll see that there won't be NMU's to be backported... 

By the way, why are only alphanumerics, . and + allowed in version
numbers? If this were less resctrictive, one could do

dpkg --compare-versions 1-3_sarge.1 gt 1-3.1; echo $?
0


Regards, Frank
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Abt. Biophysikalische Chemie



Re: readline library question

2004-08-25 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
On Thu, Aug 19, 2004 at 03:34:57PM -0400, Alexander Baranov wrote:
> 
> So, the readline seems to work fine with standard input-output, but somehow
> goes wrong when I try to use non-standard stream ("dirstream", associated
> with a socket in my case)
> 
> Can anybody give an advise?
> Thanks in advance, Alex.

readline uses ncurses which in turns uses terminfo, you need to associate a 
term type to your socket. 

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ITA: mpg321

2004-08-25 Thread Stephan Beyer
Hi,

this night I made some small bugfixes to the mpg321 code and send it
to Joe Drew, the upstream author and Debian maintainer of mpg321.
Looking at the BTS and the changelogs I came to the thought, that
development on the mpg321 code and package has been dead (except 
the 2 NMUs of course) for about a year.

Today I sent mail to Joe Drew to ask if I'm correct and if I could adopt
the authorship (and maintainership) of mpg321. I didn't wait for a reply
and made a package (basically for me) which is a merge of 0.2.10.3 (NMU
with security fixes) and 0.3.0 (the latest CVS) including some small 
fixes ;)
Please have a look at:
http://noxa.de/~sbeyer/debian/packages/?main,src,mpg321

Because I'm not a DD, I hope somebody will sponsor it... perhaps Joe
Drew himself :)
I hope I don't look like a hijacker and I hope I'm not that monkey
with a tin tool because I didn't wait for a reply :)

well... regards,
Stephan Beyer


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Re: ITA: mpg321

2004-08-25 Thread Chris Anderson
On Wed, 2004-08-25 at 17:35, Stephan Beyer wrote:
> I hope I don't look like a hijacker and I hope I'm not that monkey
> with a tin tool because I didn't wait for a reply :)
> 

You definitely need to wait for a reply for at least a week, then
generally try one last time to contact him. Hijacking it after 1 day
isn't responsible and is sometimes considered rude, not everyone has
access to email 24x7.
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Re: ITA: mpg321

2004-08-25 Thread Justin Pryzby
On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 11:35:12PM +0200, Stephan Beyer wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> this night I made some small bugfixes to the mpg321 code and send it
> to Joe Drew, the upstream author and Debian maintainer of mpg321.
> Looking at the BTS and the changelogs I came to the thought, that
> development on the mpg321 code and package has been dead (except 
> the 2 NMUs of course) for about a year.
Yes, I corresponded with him about a month ago.  When I asked if he
considered his package to be actively maintained, he said "not
really".

> Today I sent mail to Joe Drew to ask if I'm correct and if I could adopt
> the authorship (and maintainership) of mpg321. I didn't wait for a reply
> and made a package (basically for me) which is a merge of 0.2.10.3 (NMU
> with security fixes) and 0.3.0 (the latest CVS) including some small 
> fixes ;)
> Please have a look at:
>   http://noxa.de/~sbeyer/debian/packages/?main,src,mpg321
Is that the sf.net CVS?

> Because I'm not a DD, I hope somebody will sponsor it... perhaps Joe
> Drew himself :)
I hope so too!  I have a patch in BTS to fix crashes with invalid
input; I'll let you know if your version passes my test:)

Thanks,
Justin


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Re: ITA: mpg321

2004-08-25 Thread Joe Drew

Chris Anderson wrote:


You definitely need to wait for a reply for at least a week, then
generally try one last time to contact him. Hijacking it after 1 day
isn't responsible and is sometimes considered rude, not everyone has
access to email 24x7.


I will sponsor in Stephan's NMUs and patches to mpg321, but am currently 
unwilling to give up maintainership of it.


I do agree that not waiting for at least a week can be considered rude 
and is certainly overeager. It isn't a problem in this case, but I can 
conceive of a maintainer who could get angry over it.


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Re: ITA: mpg321

2004-08-25 Thread Stephan Beyer
Hi,

Chris Anderson wrote:
> You definitely need to wait for a reply for at least a week, then
> generally try one last time to contact him. Hijacking it after 1 day
> isn't responsible and is sometimes considered rude, not everyone has
> access to email 24x7.

It *is* rude :) It's just... in my overzealousness I thought that Joe
would definitely give me a O.k. ;) Strange optimism (or pessimism,
because it seems that it's still a lot of work to let mpg321 be a
really good, free replacement to mpg123... nevertheless Joe Drew did a
*great* job)

I uploaded the package to the server so that I can use such a mpg321
version (with some really small fixes of bugs that really annoyed me)
on every machine. Then I thought, once uploaded, I could also make it
public.

Joe Drew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I will sponsor in Stephan's NMUs and patches to mpg321, but am currently 
> unwilling to give up maintainership of it.

You'll me, because I re-indented the code which can be found in the 
.tar.gz. :) (I thought that was useful because there was a scary
indentation-style mix...)

> I do agree that not waiting for at least a week can be considered rude 
> and is certainly overeager.

Yes, it is :)

> It isn't a problem in this case, but I can conceive of a maintainer who
> could get angry over it.

I think *I* would get angry, especially if it is a project which caused
that much time. But my personized overeager also told me to make a fork
(which doesn't use libmad0, because it seems a bit mad), but that's
more rude than asking for adoption ;)

regards,
sbeyer


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Re: ITA: mpg321

2004-08-25 Thread Stephan Beyer
Hi,

> > Please have a look at:
> > http://noxa.de/~sbeyer/debian/packages/?main,src,mpg321
> Is that the sf.net CVS?

yes. Oh, are there other CVS? Any with more recent changes?

> > Because I'm not a DD, I hope somebody will sponsor it... perhaps Joe
> > Drew himself :)
> I hope so too!  I have a patch in BTS to fix crashes with invalid
> input; I'll let you know if your version passes my test:)

If nobody included the patch (I didn't), it won't pass the tests, I
guess :)

sbeyer


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Re: ITA: mpg321

2004-08-25 Thread Richard A. Hecker

Joe Drew wrote:


Chris Anderson wrote:


You definitely need to wait for a reply for at least a week, then
generally try one last time to contact him. Hijacking it after 1 day
isn't responsible and is sometimes considered rude, not everyone has
access to email 24x7.



I do agree that not waiting for at least a week can be considered rude 
and is certainly overeager. It isn't a problem in this case, but I can 
conceive of a maintainer who could get angry over it.



If I were on vacation for 2 weeks, I would be royally peeved.

Richard



Re: motion, 2.6, and v4l loopback device [WAS Re: motion - please do a sponsored upload for me (new revision with debconf fix)]

2004-08-25 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 01:48:26AM +0200, Frederik Dannemare wrote:
> > BTW, what is the deal with motion and 2.6 kernels ? I am under the
> > understanding that it requires the videoloop or whatever module,
> > which is not only abandoned upstream, but also not yet ported to 2.6
> > kernels.
> 
> I have been using motion and 2.6 without the v4l loopback device. I 

Ok.

> don't know much about it, but I think it was initially developed for 
> debugging motion in real-time or something like that.

I have been helping someone, who has a customer who is using linux with a set
of surveillance cameras. I think they use the vloopback device to have more
than one app access the video device, namely motion and then vlc for video
streaming server.

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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RFS: gtklp-0.9u

2004-08-25 Thread Zak B. Elep
Hi guys, gonna make this quick, as I'm in a public Knoppix box:

I've just finished a very *late* deb of gtklp-0.9u. Nothing really worth
noting, except that it might get into Sarge (but, in all probability, it won't
:()

Here's the signed-changes file:

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Format: 1.7
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 08:59:13 +0800
Source: gtklp
Binary: gtklp
Architecture: source i386
Version: 0.9u-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Zak B. Elep <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Changed-By: Zak B. Elep <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Description: 
 gtklp  - Frontend for CUPS written in GTK2
Changes: 
 gtklp (0.9u-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * New upstream release
Files: 
 87eaa908c502523d0831670e72c6b8a1 626 x11 optional gtklp_0.9u-1.dsc
 409a78b6e69ebbb1667a0becdddf74c3 1018305 x11 optional gtklp_0.9u.orig.tar.gz
 04e7eb572a88fced7701b5dcae9582a5 4294 x11 optional gtklp_0.9u-1.diff.gz
 dc165cf0dd985cb5af080dbd9da51639 144648 x11 optional gtklp_0.9u-1_i386.deb

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux)

iD8DBQFBKpb1V4ex/fpThR0RAiuyAJ4hJ+MVAouKc/PYRS2A8RqSicMeTgCeNWR0
YAytlmw+8+W4babMFw7fbdk=
=73Bl
-END PGP SIGNATURE-

Again, I'm posting this so you guys may know and sponsor (re: ametzler ;) I
appreciate any flak, though...

Thanks In Advance,
Zakame
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[zakame@spunge.org: Re: RFS: gtklp-0.9u]

2004-08-25 Thread Zak B. Elep

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On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 03:58:30AM -0500, Zak B. Elep wrote:
> Hi guys, gonna make this quick, as I'm in a public Knoppix box:
> 
> I've just finished a very *late* deb of gtklp-0.9u. Nothing really worth
> noting, except that it might get into Sarge (but, in all probability, it won't
> :()
> 

Oops! I forgot the link: http://zakame.spunge.org/pub/debian/gtklp

Cheers,
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version numbers in testing-proposed-updates (was: current specialities for NMUs)

2004-08-25 Thread Frank Küster
Hi, 

when we last had a freeze, I wasn't a DD yet, therefore this was new for
me: 

Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in debian-devel:

> These packages are frozen, i.e. newer uploads to unstable won't go into
> testing. The official way is to upload also a package to testing. To upload
> a package to testing (or: testing-proposed-updates, this are just
> synonyms; tpu in short), it is necessary that the version number of the
> upload is smaller than the current installed package in unstable, and
> larger than the current installed package in testing. So, normally, you
> have to upload a package (directly or in whichever delayed you consider
> appropriate), and the version for testing in one more day delayed. 

Will this also be valid for non-base/standard packages, once everything
is frozen?

What version numbers are usually used? If it's no a NMU, does one upload
an artificially high version number (debian revision of -50 or so) to
unstable, just to be sure not to run out of maintainer-upload version
numbers for testing-proposed-updates? Or is it normal to use NMU version
numbers even for maintainer uploads to testing-proposed-updates?

Regards, Frank
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Abt. Biophysikalische Chemie



Re: version numbers in testing-proposed-updates (was: current specialities for NMUs)

2004-08-25 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 03:28:29PM +0200, Frank K?ster wrote:
> Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in debian-devel:
> > These packages are frozen, i.e. newer uploads to unstable won't go into
> > testing. The official way is to upload also a package to testing. To upload
> > a package to testing (or: testing-proposed-updates, this are just
> > synonyms; tpu in short), it is necessary that the version number of the
> > upload is smaller than the current installed package in unstable, and
> > larger than the current installed package in testing. So, normally, you
> > have to upload a package (directly or in whichever delayed you consider
> > appropriate), and the version for testing in one more day delayed. 
> 
> Will this also be valid for non-base/standard packages, once everything
> is frozen?

Yes, unless the sid version already moved on. Versions in testing cannot
be higher than those of unstable, so this must be this way.
 
> What version numbers are usually used? If it's no a NMU, does one upload
> an artificially high version number (debian revision of -50 or so) to
> unstable, just to be sure not to run out of maintainer-upload version
> numbers for testing-proposed-updates? Or is it normal to use NMU version
> numbers even for maintainer uploads to testing-proposed-updates?

You never run out of maintainer version numbers, since can you always
add parts.

Suppose you're currentlat at -3, then you can of course still upload -4,
-5 etc to sid, which is the common way. If you want a sarge backport of
fixes to sid, use -3sarge1. If it's a Non-Maintainer backport, use
-3.sarge1.

With this method, one dot in maintainer revision means NMU (with the
before-dot part being the latest MU), zero dots means MU, a property
nice to have.

Unfortunately, -3sarge1 sorts before -3.1, so if you want as maintainer
to backport a NMU to sarge, you're out of luck for straightforward
solutions.

--Jeroen

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Re: version numbers in testing-proposed-updates (was: current specialities for NMUs)

2004-08-25 Thread Andreas Metzler
On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 03:28:29PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote:
> Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in debian-devel:
> 
> > These packages are frozen, i.e. newer uploads to unstable won't go
> > into testing. The official way is to upload also a package to
> > testing. To upload a package to testing (or:
> > testing-proposed-updates, this are just synonyms; tpu in short),
> > it is necessary that the version number of the upload is smaller
> > than the current installed package in unstable, and larger than
> > the current installed package in testing. 
[...] 
> What version numbers are usually used?

Common practise seems to be keep using normale versioning for sid
and 1.2.3-4.sarge.1 for tpu.
  cu andreas


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Re: version numbers in testing-proposed-updates

2004-08-25 Thread Frank Küster
Jeroen van Wolffelaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[clear explanation]

thanks very much.

> Unfortunately, -3sarge1 sorts before -3.1, so if you want as maintainer
> to backport a NMU to sarge, you're out of luck for straightforward
> solutions.

I'll see that there won't be NMU's to be backported... 

By the way, why are only alphanumerics, . and + allowed in version
numbers? If this were less resctrictive, one could do

dpkg --compare-versions 1-3_sarge.1 gt 1-3.1; echo $?
0


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Re: readline library question

2004-08-25 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
On Thu, Aug 19, 2004 at 03:34:57PM -0400, Alexander Baranov wrote:
> 
> So, the readline seems to work fine with standard input-output, but somehow
> goes wrong when I try to use non-standard stream ("dirstream", associated
> with a socket in my case)
> 
> Can anybody give an advise?
> Thanks in advance, Alex.

readline uses ncurses which in turns uses terminfo, you need to associate a 
term type to your socket. 

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ITA: mpg321

2004-08-25 Thread Stephan Beyer
Hi,

this night I made some small bugfixes to the mpg321 code and send it
to Joe Drew, the upstream author and Debian maintainer of mpg321.
Looking at the BTS and the changelogs I came to the thought, that
development on the mpg321 code and package has been dead (except 
the 2 NMUs of course) for about a year.

Today I sent mail to Joe Drew to ask if I'm correct and if I could adopt
the authorship (and maintainership) of mpg321. I didn't wait for a reply
and made a package (basically for me) which is a merge of 0.2.10.3 (NMU
with security fixes) and 0.3.0 (the latest CVS) including some small 
fixes ;)
Please have a look at:
http://noxa.de/~sbeyer/debian/packages/?main,src,mpg321

Because I'm not a DD, I hope somebody will sponsor it... perhaps Joe
Drew himself :)
I hope I don't look like a hijacker and I hope I'm not that monkey
with a tin tool because I didn't wait for a reply :)

well... regards,
Stephan Beyer


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Re: ITA: mpg321

2004-08-25 Thread Chris Anderson
On Wed, 2004-08-25 at 17:35, Stephan Beyer wrote:
> I hope I don't look like a hijacker and I hope I'm not that monkey
> with a tin tool because I didn't wait for a reply :)
> 

You definitely need to wait for a reply for at least a week, then
generally try one last time to contact him. Hijacking it after 1 day
isn't responsible and is sometimes considered rude, not everyone has
access to email 24x7.
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Re: ITA: mpg321

2004-08-25 Thread Justin Pryzby
On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 11:35:12PM +0200, Stephan Beyer wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> this night I made some small bugfixes to the mpg321 code and send it
> to Joe Drew, the upstream author and Debian maintainer of mpg321.
> Looking at the BTS and the changelogs I came to the thought, that
> development on the mpg321 code and package has been dead (except 
> the 2 NMUs of course) for about a year.
Yes, I corresponded with him about a month ago.  When I asked if he
considered his package to be actively maintained, he said "not
really".

> Today I sent mail to Joe Drew to ask if I'm correct and if I could adopt
> the authorship (and maintainership) of mpg321. I didn't wait for a reply
> and made a package (basically for me) which is a merge of 0.2.10.3 (NMU
> with security fixes) and 0.3.0 (the latest CVS) including some small 
> fixes ;)
> Please have a look at:
>   http://noxa.de/~sbeyer/debian/packages/?main,src,mpg321
Is that the sf.net CVS?

> Because I'm not a DD, I hope somebody will sponsor it... perhaps Joe
> Drew himself :)
I hope so too!  I have a patch in BTS to fix crashes with invalid
input; I'll let you know if your version passes my test:)

Thanks,
Justin


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Re: ITA: mpg321

2004-08-25 Thread Joe Drew
Chris Anderson wrote:
You definitely need to wait for a reply for at least a week, then
generally try one last time to contact him. Hijacking it after 1 day
isn't responsible and is sometimes considered rude, not everyone has
access to email 24x7.
I will sponsor in Stephan's NMUs and patches to mpg321, but am currently 
unwilling to give up maintainership of it.

I do agree that not waiting for at least a week can be considered rude 
and is certainly overeager. It isn't a problem in this case, but I can 
conceive of a maintainer who could get angry over it.

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Re: ITA: mpg321

2004-08-25 Thread Stephan Beyer
Hi,

Chris Anderson wrote:
> You definitely need to wait for a reply for at least a week, then
> generally try one last time to contact him. Hijacking it after 1 day
> isn't responsible and is sometimes considered rude, not everyone has
> access to email 24x7.

It *is* rude :) It's just... in my overzealousness I thought that Joe
would definitely give me a O.k. ;) Strange optimism (or pessimism,
because it seems that it's still a lot of work to let mpg321 be a
really good, free replacement to mpg123... nevertheless Joe Drew did a
*great* job)

I uploaded the package to the server so that I can use such a mpg321
version (with some really small fixes of bugs that really annoyed me)
on every machine. Then I thought, once uploaded, I could also make it
public.

Joe Drew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I will sponsor in Stephan's NMUs and patches to mpg321, but am currently 
> unwilling to give up maintainership of it.

You'll me, because I re-indented the code which can be found in the 
.tar.gz. :) (I thought that was useful because there was a scary
indentation-style mix...)

> I do agree that not waiting for at least a week can be considered rude 
> and is certainly overeager.

Yes, it is :)

> It isn't a problem in this case, but I can conceive of a maintainer who
> could get angry over it.

I think *I* would get angry, especially if it is a project which caused
that much time. But my personized overeager also told me to make a fork
(which doesn't use libmad0, because it seems a bit mad), but that's
more rude than asking for adoption ;)

regards,
sbeyer


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Re: ITA: mpg321

2004-08-25 Thread Stephan Beyer
Hi,

> > Please have a look at:
> > http://noxa.de/~sbeyer/debian/packages/?main,src,mpg321
> Is that the sf.net CVS?

yes. Oh, are there other CVS? Any with more recent changes?

> > Because I'm not a DD, I hope somebody will sponsor it... perhaps Joe
> > Drew himself :)
> I hope so too!  I have a patch in BTS to fix crashes with invalid
> input; I'll let you know if your version passes my test:)

If nobody included the patch (I didn't), it won't pass the tests, I
guess :)

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Re: ITA: mpg321

2004-08-25 Thread Richard A. Hecker
Joe Drew wrote:
Chris Anderson wrote:
You definitely need to wait for a reply for at least a week, then
generally try one last time to contact him. Hijacking it after 1 day
isn't responsible and is sometimes considered rude, not everyone has
access to email 24x7.

I do agree that not waiting for at least a week can be considered rude 
and is certainly overeager. It isn't a problem in this case, but I can 
conceive of a maintainer who could get angry over it.

If I were on vacation for 2 weeks, I would be royally peeved.
Richard
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