Re: two new packages, one depends upon the other

2004-08-03 Thread Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo
On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 12:08:10AM -0400, Jay Berkenbilt wrote:
> Suppose I have two packages: A and B where B depends and build depends
> upon A.  Neither package has been uploaded before.  I can easily build
> A in pbuilder using pdebuild, but I can't do the same with B because B
> build depends upon A and A is not in the archive (thereby causing
> pbuilder-satisfydepends to fail).  I have gotten around this by using
> pbuilder login, installing A's debs manually, running
> pbuilder-satisfydepends, and then run dpkg-buildpackage, but I'm
> wondering whether there is a better/usual way to do this.  Any
> suggestions would be welcome.

You can always add your own repository to the /etc/pbuilderrc.
If you don't have time to create your own, you can use mentors.debian.net,
that's what I do usually.
 
> Also, when A and B are ready to be uploaded into unstable, I am
> assuming that, as long as A is uploaded first, there's no reason not
> to upload them together.  Of course, B won't be able to built from
> source until its build dependencies can be satisfied, which won't
> happen until A is built.  Would it be useful to wait a few days
> between uploading A and B?  

The perfect solution would be to wait for ftp-master approval of the
B package and then upload A package, but approval could take few weeks.
I think that delay between uploads is a good idea.

> If B fails to build from source, is it
> the case that manual intervention is then required to get it to retry,
> or does this happen automatically?  Thanks again for any
> clarification.

That depends on the reason of not-building. What reasons do you expect?
 
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Re: How to retire a bug tagged wontfix,woody?

2004-08-03 Thread Brian Nelson
Kevin Glynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Andreas Metzler writes:
>  > On Mon, Aug 02, 2004 at 03:03:31PM +0200, Kevin Glynn wrote:
>  > > I am the (new) maintainer for mozart. I have one Serious bug
>  > > outstanding:
>  > > 
>  > >http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=mozart). 
>  > > 
>  > > The bug was tagged wontfix, woody.  The bug has been fixed in versions
>  > > later than woody.  What should I do? Will this just hang around
>  > > forever?
>  > [...]
>  > 
>  > Basically that is up to you as maintainer. Having open bugs in the BTS
>  > tagged woody that you are not going to fix only serves one purpose:
>  > documentation. If you do not think this is necessary close it.
>  > 
>  > Personally, for this specific bug I'd keep it open just a little bit
>  > longer until sarge is released.
>
> Thanks for the responses.  I understand now, I was just worried about
> having open 'Serious' bugs so close to a freeze 

Then downgrade it.  There's a mismatch there anyway.  A serious bug
should *never* be tagged as wontfix.  Either it needs to be fixed or
it's not really serious.

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Re: Bug#147813: help converting from latex2html

2004-08-03 Thread Blars Blarson
On Mon, Aug 02, 2004 at 11:33:27AM +0200, Frank K?ster wrote:
> Frank K?ster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
> 
> > Blars Blarson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> 1. Get some help to fix the latex.
> >
> > This hthtml.sty is really dumb.
> >
> > In the attached patch, 
> 
> Argh, there was no patch...
> 

Thanks, patch applied and new package uploaded.

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Re: How to retire a bug tagged wontfix,woody?

2004-08-03 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Mon, Aug 02, 2004 at 11:42:49PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote:
> Then downgrade it.  There's a mismatch there anyway.  A serious bug
> should *never* be tagged as wontfix.  Either it needs to be fixed or
> it's not really serious.

This is not true. For example, architecture-dependent data in /usr/share
is a serious bug, but if a version in woody has this bug, it is still
wontfix: such a bug doesn't render the package nearly unusable, doesn't
cause dataloss, isn't a security issue, hence, isn't important enough to
risk breaking stuff in woody for..

RC bugs tagged woody (and not sarge or sid) do in no way affect sarge's
release, you can safely leave them around for documentation purposes
(i.e., letting people know you're aware of the bug in woody, but that it
won't be resolved in woody, so people won't file new bugs for it).

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Packaging MAME

2004-08-03 Thread Chris Jefferson

Hello!

I have been using debian for a while, and have been compiling my own 
copy of MAME (the Multiple Arcade Machine Emulator) (from 
http://x.mame.net) for my own use. It looks as if someone packaged this 
at some point but it never got out of unstable (I used testing) and 
hasn't been updated in some time. I have tried emailing the maintainer 
some weeks ago and have recieved no reply. I would like therefore to 
perhaps take over this package and try to get it up to date.


Nowadays, MAME's source has been merged (at least under UNIX) with MESS, 
a program which emulates a large range of computers and consoles. I am 
unsure of how to package two programs which come from the same source 
package so I thought to start with I would simply package MAME.


I'm currently trying to package MAME, but thought that I would also look 
for a sponsor, as I wasn't sure if it might be difficult for a 
contraversal package.


Thank you,

Chris



Re: How to retire a bug tagged wontfix,woody?

2004-08-03 Thread Brian Nelson
Jeroen van Wolffelaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Mon, Aug 02, 2004 at 11:42:49PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote:
>> Then downgrade it.  There's a mismatch there anyway.  A serious bug
>> should *never* be tagged as wontfix.  Either it needs to be fixed or
>> it's not really serious.
>
> This is not true. For example, architecture-dependent data in /usr/share
> is a serious bug, but if a version in woody has this bug, it is still
> wontfix: such a bug doesn't render the package nearly unusable, doesn't
> cause dataloss, isn't a security issue, hence, isn't important enough to
> risk breaking stuff in woody for..

A serious bug usually implies a policy violation and not necessarily a
usability issue.

If the policy violation is exaggerated (like your above example, or the
OP's bug), I'd just downgrade it.  Leaving serious bugs open and tagged
wontfix just makes no sense to me.

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Re: Debian Weekly News - August 3rd, 2004

2004-08-03 Thread Justin Pryzby
>  52. http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/
> 
>  * [53]fftw -- Library for computing Fast Fourier Transforms.
>([54]Bug#263126)
>  * [55]fftw3 -- Library for computing Fast Fourier Transforms.
>([56]Bug#263125)
I'd definitely like to see these stay in Debian.  I'll look into picking
up the work if someone will sponsor me.  James?  What are you
motivations for orphaning fftw?

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out-of-date-standards-version

2004-08-03 Thread Olivier
Hi all,

lintian complains:

 out-of-date-standards-version 3.6.0
N:
N:   The source package refers to a 'Standards-Version' that is starting to
N:   get out of date, compared to current Policy. You can safely ignore
N:   this warning, but please consider updating the package to current
N:   Policy.

The reason I choose this standsards version, is that I can maintain both a
woody backport and a normal package using this standard. Is that a valid
reason?

regards,
Olivier



Re: out-of-date-standards-version

2004-08-03 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 12:39:22AM +0200, Olivier wrote:
> lintian complains:
> 
>  out-of-date-standards-version 3.6.0
> N:
> N:   The source package refers to a 'Standards-Version' that is starting to
> N:   get out of date, compared to current Policy. You can safely ignore
> N:   this warning, but please consider updating the package to current
> N:   Policy.
> 
> The reason I choose this standsards version, is that I can maintain both a
> woody backport and a normal package using this standard. Is that a valid
> reason?

It's certainly a better reason than "I couldn't be bothered", which is the
standard reason why people don't update their standards-version.

Looking at upgrading-checklist, the only change in 3.6.1 was a debconf
change.  Woody has debconf, and even if it didn't, or you need some feature
only present in Sarge's debconf, you could backport debconf to woody (or use
one of the pre-existing backports).

Ordinarily, I'd say "don't worry about it too much", because Sarge's release
is looming (and hence, in a couple of months time, a Woody backport won't be
of much interest), however manual prompting is a big problem for certain
segments of the community, so, if you really can't use Debconf for your
Woody backport prompting, some sort of workaround is recommended.  At the
very least, *please* guard your manual prompting with a
DEBCONF_FRONTEND=noninteractive check.

- Matt



Re: out-of-date-standards-version

2004-08-03 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 12:39:22AM +0200, Olivier wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> lintian complains:
> 
>  out-of-date-standards-version 3.6.0
> N:
> N:   The source package refers to a 'Standards-Version' that is starting to
> N:   get out of date, compared to current Policy. You can safely ignore
> N:   this warning, but please consider updating the package to current
> N:   Policy.
> 
> The reason I choose this standsards version, is that I can maintain both a
> woody backport and a normal package using this standard. Is that a valid
> reason?

Your package in sid/sarge needs to confirm to the latest policy version,
whatever you put in standards-version.

That field is only a reminder to yourself, of what policy version you
checked your package. Nothing automatic happens with it, you can
technically set it to anything without any practical effect.

3.6.1 has compared to 3.6.0 only a deprecation, with a 'should' (i.e.,
not 'must'), so you can safely put 3.6.1 and not lying.

--Jeroen

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Re: out-of-date-standards-version

2004-08-03 Thread Nico Golde
Hello Olivier,

* Olivier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-08-04 00:49]:
> lintian complains:
> 
>  out-of-date-standards-version 3.6.0
> N:
> N:   The source package refers to a 'Standards-Version' that is starting to
> N:   get out of date, compared to current Policy. You can safely ignore
> N:   this warning, but please consider updating the package to current
> N:   Policy.
> 
> The reason I choose this standsards version, is that I can maintain both a
> woody backport and a normal package using this standard. Is that a valid
> reason?

no, because your package have to fit in unstable.
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RFS: libmarc-record-perl (wnpp #251875)

2004-08-03 Thread David Everly
Request for Sponsor: libmarc-record-perl

ITP:  http://bugs.debian.org/251875

Description:

Modules that define MARC fields, check the validity of MARC records, and
handle MARC records as objects.

The MARC (MAchine Readable Cataloging) format was designed by the Library
of Congress in the late 1960s in order to allow libraries to convert their
card catalogs into a digital format. The advantages of having
computerized card catalogs were soon realized, and now MARC is being
used by all sorts of libraries around the world to provide computerized
access to their collections. MARC data in transmission format is
optimized for processing by computers, so it's not very readable for the
normal human.

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Re: two new packages, one depends upon the other

2004-08-03 Thread Jay Berkenbilt

>   > Suppose I have two packages: A and B where B depends and build depends
>   > upon A.  Neither package has been uploaded before.  I can easily build
>   > A in pbuilder using pdebuild, but I can't do the same with B because B
>   > build depends upon A and A is not in the archive (thereby causing
>   > pbuilder-satisfydepends to fail).  I have gotten around this by using
>   > pbuilder login, installing A's debs manually, running
>   > pbuilder-satisfydepends, and then run dpkg-buildpackage, but I'm
>   > wondering whether there is a better/usual way to do this.  Any
>   > suggestions would be welcome.
>
>   You can always add your own repository to the /etc/pbuilderrc.
>   If you don't have time to create your own, you can use mentors.debian.net,
>   that's what I do usually.

That's so obvious I completely overlooked it. :-)  Thanks!  It worked
perfectly.  I already have a local repository, so I just copied these
packages into it, reran dpkg-scanpackages, and added it to
/etc/pbuilderrc in OTHERMIRROR.  It worked perfectly (after I ran
pbuilder update --config-override).

>   > If B fails to build from source, is it
>   > the case that manual intervention is then required to get it to retry,
>   > or does this happen automatically?  Thanks again for any
>   > clarification.
>
>   That depends on the reason of not-building. What reasons do you expect?

Only not waiting long enough between uploading A and B.  Probably
nothing to worry about.

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RFS: vips and nip

2004-08-03 Thread Jay Berkenbilt

I have packaged [1] vips and nip.  The packages can be found on
mentors.debian.net (details follow).  All packages are lintian clean
and were built in an up-to-date pbuilder environment.  I have locally
installed and tested the packages.

  1. http://www.vips.ecs.soton.ac.uk

The following introductory text, largely lifted from the vips web
site, briefly describes the software:

  VIPS is a free image processing system.  It is good with large
  images (images larger than the amount of RAM in your machine), and
  for working with colour.  VIPS consists of two main components: an
  image processing library, and a spreadsheet-like graphical user
  interface, available in the nip package.

The nip program is really quite remarkable, and has functionality
unlike what I've seen any other packages.  This is most certainly not
just another image viewer or manipulation program.  With this program,
you can form complex pipelines of image operations using a
spreadsheet-like user interface.  The resulting images are updated
dynamically as parameters are changed.  One of the more interesting
features here is mosaic assembly.  I have used this successfully to
create "seamless" scanned images out of parts scanned on my 8.5x11
flatbed scanner.  Also, nip can work on very large images and is quite
efficient.  I was able to do manipulations on 9 300-dpi 24-bit color
8.5 x 11 images simultaneously without any observable lag.

I have discussed my interest in packaging vips and nip for Debian with
the upstream maintainers, who are enthusiastic about this possibility.
There are packages for vips and nip for some other distributions
including gentoo.

An [2] RFS for this package already existed.  I retitled the RFS to an
ITP and posted a little bit of additional information.

  2. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=188478

There are two source packages: vips7.8 and nip.  The vips7.8 package
creates four binary packages (shown here with their i386 names):

libvips7.8-dev_7.8.14-1_i386.deb
libvips7.8-doc_7.8.14-1_all.deb
libvips7.8-tools_7.8.14-1_i386.deb
libvips7.8_7.8.14-1_i386.deb

The nip package creates a single binary package:

nip_7.8.14-1_i386.deb

The vips package has the version number built into the package name
because it creates and installs a shared library.  Unfortunately, the
library version is 0.0.0, but the upstream maintainers have fixed this
and are now using sensible shared library naming conventions.  To my
knowledge, they are not using versioned symbols, though I may take
this issue up with them (particularly after this whole tiff fiasco).
vips 7.10.0 is out, but it is considered a beta release.  The upstream
maintainers expressed a preference for having 7.8.14 packaged for
Debian for now rather than 7.10.0.  The new version of nip is now
called nip2.  It uses gtk2.0 instead of gtk+.  I will package those in
a few months when they are considered stable by upstream and have
documentation.  Clearly they will not be ready in time for sarge.

I'm hoping someone will sponsor these packages and upload them soon.
They need to be uploaded fairly quickly to make it into sarge.  Any
feedback on the packaging is, of course, appreciated so that if I need
to make changes, there is still time.

Since nip build depends upon libvips7.8-dev (which depends upon
libvips7.8), a gap of a day or two should be left between uploading
vips and uploading nip.

A few final notes: I am on the [3] NM queue but have not yet been
assigned an AM, so I have some time to go yet.  I am currently
maintaining the xerces packages (xerces23, xerces24, xerces25, and
libxml-xerces-perl) as a member of the debian-sgml-xml group on
alioth.  I am listed as a co-maintainer of those packages, though I am
presently the only person actively working on them.  As for vips and
nip, I am not associated with the packages in any way other than being
a user.

  3. http://nm.debian.org/nmstatus.php?email=ejb%40ql.org

Thanks for your support.  If no one steps up to sponsor these packages
within a couple of days, I will ask two people who have sponsored
uploads for me before, but I'm hoping someone who is interested in
image manipulation software will take a look at these.  I don't want
to seem impatient, which is why I mention this up front.  I'm only
trying to act quickly because of the looming sarge freeze. :-)

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Call to undefined function: mysql_connect()

2004-08-03 Thread Jarod



I have install php4-mysql package using apt-get but 
when i ran my php script, it gave me the error "Call to undefined 
function:  mysql_connect()..."
 
Did I missed out anything?
 
 
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Re: Call to undefined function: mysql_connect()

2004-08-03 Thread Pierre HABOUZIT
On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 12:44:23PM +0800, Jarod wrote:
> I have install php4-mysql package using apt-get but when i ran my php script, 
> it gave me the error "Call to undefined function:  mysql_connect()..."
> 
> Did I missed out anything?

  add extension=mysql.so in the right php.ini and then restart apache.

  I think the package do the first, but not the second.

  btw I don't think it's the right place to ask your question,
debian-user should be more appropriate.

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Re: How to retire a bug tagged wontfix,woody?

2004-08-03 Thread Brian Nelson
Kevin Glynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Andreas Metzler writes:
>  > On Mon, Aug 02, 2004 at 03:03:31PM +0200, Kevin Glynn wrote:
>  > > I am the (new) maintainer for mozart. I have one Serious bug
>  > > outstanding:
>  > > 
>  > >http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=mozart). 
>  > > 
>  > > The bug was tagged wontfix, woody.  The bug has been fixed in versions
>  > > later than woody.  What should I do? Will this just hang around
>  > > forever?
>  > [...]
>  > 
>  > Basically that is up to you as maintainer. Having open bugs in the BTS
>  > tagged woody that you are not going to fix only serves one purpose:
>  > documentation. If you do not think this is necessary close it.
>  > 
>  > Personally, for this specific bug I'd keep it open just a little bit
>  > longer until sarge is released.
>
> Thanks for the responses.  I understand now, I was just worried about
> having open 'Serious' bugs so close to a freeze 

Then downgrade it.  There's a mismatch there anyway.  A serious bug
should *never* be tagged as wontfix.  Either it needs to be fixed or
it's not really serious.

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Re: Bug#147813: help converting from latex2html

2004-08-03 Thread Blars Blarson
On Mon, Aug 02, 2004 at 11:33:27AM +0200, Frank K?ster wrote:
> Frank K?ster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
> 
> > Blars Blarson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> 1. Get some help to fix the latex.
> >
> > This hthtml.sty is really dumb.
> >
> > In the attached patch, 
> 
> Argh, there was no patch...
> 

Thanks, patch applied and new package uploaded.

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Re: How to retire a bug tagged wontfix,woody?

2004-08-03 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Mon, Aug 02, 2004 at 11:42:49PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote:
> Then downgrade it.  There's a mismatch there anyway.  A serious bug
> should *never* be tagged as wontfix.  Either it needs to be fixed or
> it's not really serious.

This is not true. For example, architecture-dependent data in /usr/share
is a serious bug, but if a version in woody has this bug, it is still
wontfix: such a bug doesn't render the package nearly unusable, doesn't
cause dataloss, isn't a security issue, hence, isn't important enough to
risk breaking stuff in woody for..

RC bugs tagged woody (and not sarge or sid) do in no way affect sarge's
release, you can safely leave them around for documentation purposes
(i.e., letting people know you're aware of the bug in woody, but that it
won't be resolved in woody, so people won't file new bugs for it).

--Jeroen

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Packaging MAME

2004-08-03 Thread Chris Jefferson
Hello!
I have been using debian for a while, and have been compiling my own 
copy of MAME (the Multiple Arcade Machine Emulator) (from 
http://x.mame.net) for my own use. It looks as if someone packaged this 
at some point but it never got out of unstable (I used testing) and 
hasn't been updated in some time. I have tried emailing the maintainer 
some weeks ago and have recieved no reply. I would like therefore to 
perhaps take over this package and try to get it up to date.

Nowadays, MAME's source has been merged (at least under UNIX) with MESS, 
a program which emulates a large range of computers and consoles. I am 
unsure of how to package two programs which come from the same source 
package so I thought to start with I would simply package MAME.

I'm currently trying to package MAME, but thought that I would also look 
for a sponsor, as I wasn't sure if it might be difficult for a 
contraversal package.

Thank you,
Chris
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Re: How to retire a bug tagged wontfix,woody?

2004-08-03 Thread Brian Nelson
Jeroen van Wolffelaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Mon, Aug 02, 2004 at 11:42:49PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote:
>> Then downgrade it.  There's a mismatch there anyway.  A serious bug
>> should *never* be tagged as wontfix.  Either it needs to be fixed or
>> it's not really serious.
>
> This is not true. For example, architecture-dependent data in /usr/share
> is a serious bug, but if a version in woody has this bug, it is still
> wontfix: such a bug doesn't render the package nearly unusable, doesn't
> cause dataloss, isn't a security issue, hence, isn't important enough to
> risk breaking stuff in woody for..

A serious bug usually implies a policy violation and not necessarily a
usability issue.

If the policy violation is exaggerated (like your above example, or the
OP's bug), I'd just downgrade it.  Leaving serious bugs open and tagged
wontfix just makes no sense to me.

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Re: Debian Weekly News - August 3rd, 2004

2004-08-03 Thread Justin Pryzby
>  52. http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/
> 
>  * [53]fftw -- Library for computing Fast Fourier Transforms.
>([54]Bug#263126)
>  * [55]fftw3 -- Library for computing Fast Fourier Transforms.
>([56]Bug#263125)
I'd definitely like to see these stay in Debian.  I'll look into picking
up the work if someone will sponsor me.  James?  What are you
motivations for orphaning fftw?

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out-of-date-standards-version

2004-08-03 Thread Olivier
Hi all,

lintian complains:

 out-of-date-standards-version 3.6.0
N:
N:   The source package refers to a 'Standards-Version' that is starting to
N:   get out of date, compared to current Policy. You can safely ignore
N:   this warning, but please consider updating the package to current
N:   Policy.

The reason I choose this standsards version, is that I can maintain both a
woody backport and a normal package using this standard. Is that a valid
reason?

regards,
Olivier


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Re: out-of-date-standards-version

2004-08-03 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 12:39:22AM +0200, Olivier wrote:
> lintian complains:
> 
>  out-of-date-standards-version 3.6.0
> N:
> N:   The source package refers to a 'Standards-Version' that is starting to
> N:   get out of date, compared to current Policy. You can safely ignore
> N:   this warning, but please consider updating the package to current
> N:   Policy.
> 
> The reason I choose this standsards version, is that I can maintain both a
> woody backport and a normal package using this standard. Is that a valid
> reason?

It's certainly a better reason than "I couldn't be bothered", which is the
standard reason why people don't update their standards-version.

Looking at upgrading-checklist, the only change in 3.6.1 was a debconf
change.  Woody has debconf, and even if it didn't, or you need some feature
only present in Sarge's debconf, you could backport debconf to woody (or use
one of the pre-existing backports).

Ordinarily, I'd say "don't worry about it too much", because Sarge's release
is looming (and hence, in a couple of months time, a Woody backport won't be
of much interest), however manual prompting is a big problem for certain
segments of the community, so, if you really can't use Debconf for your
Woody backport prompting, some sort of workaround is recommended.  At the
very least, *please* guard your manual prompting with a
DEBCONF_FRONTEND=noninteractive check.

- Matt


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Re: out-of-date-standards-version

2004-08-03 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 12:39:22AM +0200, Olivier wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> lintian complains:
> 
>  out-of-date-standards-version 3.6.0
> N:
> N:   The source package refers to a 'Standards-Version' that is starting to
> N:   get out of date, compared to current Policy. You can safely ignore
> N:   this warning, but please consider updating the package to current
> N:   Policy.
> 
> The reason I choose this standsards version, is that I can maintain both a
> woody backport and a normal package using this standard. Is that a valid
> reason?

Your package in sid/sarge needs to confirm to the latest policy version,
whatever you put in standards-version.

That field is only a reminder to yourself, of what policy version you
checked your package. Nothing automatic happens with it, you can
technically set it to anything without any practical effect.

3.6.1 has compared to 3.6.0 only a deprecation, with a 'should' (i.e.,
not 'must'), so you can safely put 3.6.1 and not lying.

--Jeroen

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Re: out-of-date-standards-version

2004-08-03 Thread Nico Golde
Hello Olivier,

* Olivier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-08-04 00:49]:
> lintian complains:
> 
>  out-of-date-standards-version 3.6.0
> N:
> N:   The source package refers to a 'Standards-Version' that is starting to
> N:   get out of date, compared to current Policy. You can safely ignore
> N:   this warning, but please consider updating the package to current
> N:   Policy.
> 
> The reason I choose this standsards version, is that I can maintain both a
> woody backport and a normal package using this standard. Is that a valid
> reason?

no, because your package have to fit in unstable.
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RFS: libmarc-record-perl (wnpp #251875)

2004-08-03 Thread David Everly
Request for Sponsor: libmarc-record-perl

ITP:  http://bugs.debian.org/251875

Description:

Modules that define MARC fields, check the validity of MARC records, and
handle MARC records as objects.

The MARC (MAchine Readable Cataloging) format was designed by the Library
of Congress in the late 1960s in order to allow libraries to convert their
card catalogs into a digital format. The advantages of having
computerized card catalogs were soon realized, and now MARC is being
used by all sorts of libraries around the world to provide computerized
access to their collections. MARC data in transmission format is
optimized for processing by computers, so it's not very readable for the
normal human.

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Re: two new packages, one depends upon the other

2004-08-03 Thread Jay Berkenbilt

>   > Suppose I have two packages: A and B where B depends and build depends
>   > upon A.  Neither package has been uploaded before.  I can easily build
>   > A in pbuilder using pdebuild, but I can't do the same with B because B
>   > build depends upon A and A is not in the archive (thereby causing
>   > pbuilder-satisfydepends to fail).  I have gotten around this by using
>   > pbuilder login, installing A's debs manually, running
>   > pbuilder-satisfydepends, and then run dpkg-buildpackage, but I'm
>   > wondering whether there is a better/usual way to do this.  Any
>   > suggestions would be welcome.
>
>   You can always add your own repository to the /etc/pbuilderrc.
>   If you don't have time to create your own, you can use mentors.debian.net,
>   that's what I do usually.

That's so obvious I completely overlooked it. :-)  Thanks!  It worked
perfectly.  I already have a local repository, so I just copied these
packages into it, reran dpkg-scanpackages, and added it to
/etc/pbuilderrc in OTHERMIRROR.  It worked perfectly (after I ran
pbuilder update --config-override).

>   > If B fails to build from source, is it
>   > the case that manual intervention is then required to get it to retry,
>   > or does this happen automatically?  Thanks again for any
>   > clarification.
>
>   That depends on the reason of not-building. What reasons do you expect?

Only not waiting long enough between uploading A and B.  Probably
nothing to worry about.

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RFS: vips and nip

2004-08-03 Thread Jay Berkenbilt

I have packaged [1] vips and nip.  The packages can be found on
mentors.debian.net (details follow).  All packages are lintian clean
and were built in an up-to-date pbuilder environment.  I have locally
installed and tested the packages.

  1. http://www.vips.ecs.soton.ac.uk

The following introductory text, largely lifted from the vips web
site, briefly describes the software:

  VIPS is a free image processing system.  It is good with large
  images (images larger than the amount of RAM in your machine), and
  for working with colour.  VIPS consists of two main components: an
  image processing library, and a spreadsheet-like graphical user
  interface, available in the nip package.

The nip program is really quite remarkable, and has functionality
unlike what I've seen any other packages.  This is most certainly not
just another image viewer or manipulation program.  With this program,
you can form complex pipelines of image operations using a
spreadsheet-like user interface.  The resulting images are updated
dynamically as parameters are changed.  One of the more interesting
features here is mosaic assembly.  I have used this successfully to
create "seamless" scanned images out of parts scanned on my 8.5x11
flatbed scanner.  Also, nip can work on very large images and is quite
efficient.  I was able to do manipulations on 9 300-dpi 24-bit color
8.5 x 11 images simultaneously without any observable lag.

I have discussed my interest in packaging vips and nip for Debian with
the upstream maintainers, who are enthusiastic about this possibility.
There are packages for vips and nip for some other distributions
including gentoo.

An [2] RFS for this package already existed.  I retitled the RFS to an
ITP and posted a little bit of additional information.

  2. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=188478

There are two source packages: vips7.8 and nip.  The vips7.8 package
creates four binary packages (shown here with their i386 names):

libvips7.8-dev_7.8.14-1_i386.deb
libvips7.8-doc_7.8.14-1_all.deb
libvips7.8-tools_7.8.14-1_i386.deb
libvips7.8_7.8.14-1_i386.deb

The nip package creates a single binary package:

nip_7.8.14-1_i386.deb

The vips package has the version number built into the package name
because it creates and installs a shared library.  Unfortunately, the
library version is 0.0.0, but the upstream maintainers have fixed this
and are now using sensible shared library naming conventions.  To my
knowledge, they are not using versioned symbols, though I may take
this issue up with them (particularly after this whole tiff fiasco).
vips 7.10.0 is out, but it is considered a beta release.  The upstream
maintainers expressed a preference for having 7.8.14 packaged for
Debian for now rather than 7.10.0.  The new version of nip is now
called nip2.  It uses gtk2.0 instead of gtk+.  I will package those in
a few months when they are considered stable by upstream and have
documentation.  Clearly they will not be ready in time for sarge.

I'm hoping someone will sponsor these packages and upload them soon.
They need to be uploaded fairly quickly to make it into sarge.  Any
feedback on the packaging is, of course, appreciated so that if I need
to make changes, there is still time.

Since nip build depends upon libvips7.8-dev (which depends upon
libvips7.8), a gap of a day or two should be left between uploading
vips and uploading nip.

A few final notes: I am on the [3] NM queue but have not yet been
assigned an AM, so I have some time to go yet.  I am currently
maintaining the xerces packages (xerces23, xerces24, xerces25, and
libxml-xerces-perl) as a member of the debian-sgml-xml group on
alioth.  I am listed as a co-maintainer of those packages, though I am
presently the only person actively working on them.  As for vips and
nip, I am not associated with the packages in any way other than being
a user.

  3. http://nm.debian.org/nmstatus.php?email=ejb%40ql.org

Thanks for your support.  If no one steps up to sponsor these packages
within a couple of days, I will ask two people who have sponsored
uploads for me before, but I'm hoping someone who is interested in
image manipulation software will take a look at these.  I don't want
to seem impatient, which is why I mention this up front.  I'm only
trying to act quickly because of the looming sarge freeze. :-)

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Call to undefined function: mysql_connect()

2004-08-03 Thread Jarod



I have install php4-mysql package using apt-get but 
when i ran my php script, it gave me the error "Call to undefined 
function:  mysql_connect()..."
 
Did I missed out anything?
 
 
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Re: Call to undefined function: mysql_connect()

2004-08-03 Thread Pierre HABOUZIT
On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 12:44:23PM +0800, Jarod wrote:
> I have install php4-mysql package using apt-get but when i ran my php script, it 
> gave me the error "Call to undefined function:  mysql_connect()..."
> 
> Did I missed out anything?

  add extension=mysql.so in the right php.ini and then restart apache.

  I think the package do the first, but not the second.

  btw I don't think it's the right place to ask your question,
debian-user should be more appropriate.

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