Re: Where can I get CVS space for collaborative maintenance?

2003-03-26 Thread Christoph Haas
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 10:13:25PM +0100, Johannes Rohr wrote:
> I am co-maintaining a small package (nautilus-media) with another
> newbie maintainer. The best way to keep our work in sync would
> probably be setting up a CVS repository for that package. But since
> I'm behind a dialup line, setting it up on my box is not an option.

You could use a DynDNS service with the ddclient and set up a CVS server
which is accessible via SSH. If the package's sources are not a few MB
that should work.

We (a trio of weird geeks) are currently setting up a service at
http://mentors.debian.net. This is not exactly a CVS service but you
could later offer download of your package from there.

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irssi+silc

2003-03-26 Thread derek
hello all,

i'm a relatively experienced debian user and opensource hacker, and in
addition to being generally interested in knowing how to package .debs,
i have a specific need to make it easy to install a binary irssi with
silc-plugin and perl-scripting enabled on a number of different debian
servers at work.

i've successfully built and installed the packages from source (see URLs
at bottom), such that i can connect to a silc server from the modified
irssi binary, and have perl scripting work.  i've read most of the debian
policy manual carefully, and scoured the new maintainers guide, as well
as doing a pretty thorough overview of most of the other documentation
these two sources (plus my wee ol' brain) put me onto.

my question is this: what's the debian way to best package this?  i've
made a first stab at it this evening, which seems to have failed, but
i'm not even really sure i'm taking a good approach here.  i'll take a
few paragraphs to explain what i've done, and hopefully someone can
offer some good suggestions for how to proceed.

1) in a sandbox source directory, i made a subdir called
   irssi-silc-0.8.6.CVS.0.9.11/ and untar'd each of the tarballs into
   it.  because irssi is the "main" piece of this stuff, i then moved
   everything from irssi-0.8.6/ into the package dir before running
   dh_make.  my intention here was to start creation of a package called
   'irssi-silc'

2) ran dh_make
3) configured irssi and silc-plugin with
   --prefix=.../irssi-silc-0.8.6.CVS.0.9.11/debian/irssi-silc and
   --with-glib2
4) make irssi, make silc-client, make silc-plugin to install everything
   into debian/irssi-silc

it took me most of the night to get these steps worked out, and
everything successfully built (there seems to be a small bug in the
silc-plugin source that caused the 'make' to fail until i tweaked
src/fe-common/silc/fe-messages.c to say 'printnick' on line 88 instead
of 'printnicks'.  when i finished, i ran debian/irssi-silc/bin/irssi,
and it loaded up properly.  when i typed "/load silc" to load the
silc-plugin, i got:

Irssi: Error loading module silc/core: 
/.../irssi-silc-0.8.6.CVS.0.9.11/debian/irssi-silc/lib/irssi/modules/libsilc_core.so: 
undefined symbol: settings_get_time
Irssi: Error loading module silc/fe: 
/.../irssi-silc-0.8.6.CVS.0.9.11/debian/irssi-silc/lib/irssi/modules/libfe_silc.so: 
undefined symbol: silc_calloc
Irssi: Error loading module silc/core: 
/.../irssi-silc-0.8.6.CVS.0.9.11/debian/irssi-silc/lib/irssi/modules/libsilc_core.so: 
undefined symbol: settings_get_time

now, it may be that i'm too tired at this point, or that i fscked sumfin
up twiddling source here, but presumably i could get something like this
to build (since i've done it without the fancy --prefix flags). after
that i think what i want to do is modify debian/rules to configure and
build silc-plugin (and silc-client) at the same time.

am i on the right track here?

finally, let me fill in some other details i know about the debian
packages in question:

- silc-plugin already has a properly setup debian/ directory, which
  presumably helps me, but i don't really understand how.
- silcnet.org has deb-src packages available; again, i assume this helps
  me somehow, but i dont get how to use the work that's already been
  done here ;)
- digging around on http://debian.org/devel/wnpp/being_packaged, i
  noticed that someone's currently packaging irssi-icq, which again is
  theoretically helpful to me..
- i've located an unofficial package of irssi-text 0.8.6 via
  apt-get.org: http://people.debian.org/~nobse/debian/woody/backported

it occurs to me from this grouping of info that i might simply want some
kind of "meta" package that simply installs the correct set of packages
in such a way that they all play well with each other.. but how?

it seems clear that i've gotten myself in far too deep for a first
packaging attempt, but as i mentioned, i do have a specific need to
solve this problem.  anyone got some good pointers for how best to
proceed here?  have i left out any relevant pieces of info?

much thanks in advance,
derek

URLs:
[1] http://www.irssi.org/files/irssi-0.8.6.tar.gz
[2] http://www.penguin-breeder.org/silc/download/silc-plugin-0.8.6.CVS.0.9.11.tar.gz
[3] http://www.silcnet.org/download/client/sources/silc-client-0.9.11.tar.gz



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Re: Seeking sponsorship

2003-03-26 Thread Mark Howard
On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 20:23, Harris, Jason wrote:
> I have used Debian since Potato, but I have never packaged.  I have
> often wanted to know the process needed to get changes in, 

Well this part's very easy. Just add a comment or a patch to a bug
report and the package maintainer should include it in the next release.
The following pages list bugs which are particularly in need of your
help.
http://master.debian.org/~ajt/oldbugs.html
http://qa.debian.org/bts-help.html
more are listed at 
http://qa.debian.org/

Also, you can find lists of other bugs which might interest you at
http://bugs.debian.org/your-favourite-package


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Re: Where can I get CVS space for collaborative maintenance?

2003-03-26 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 06:36:51PM -0500, Morgon Kanter wrote:
>> So can anyone tell me, where to turn in search of CVS space?

> Have you tried sourceforge? ( http://sourceforge.net )

I suggest you avoid SourceForge. See
http://fsfeurope.org/news/article2001-10-20-01.en.html for the
reasons.

But you can use http://savannah.nongnu.org/

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Re: Where can I get CVS space for collaborative maintenance?

2003-03-26 Thread Roland Mas
Rene Engelhard (2003-03-26 02:27:46 +0100) :

> Johannes Rohr wrote:
>> So can anyone tell me, where to turn in search of CVS space?

[...]

> Well, normally, there is cvs.debian.org.
>
> But [...] it seems that it is closed anyway

Its functionality is to be provided by the soon-to-be-announced Alioth
(see http://alioth.debian.org/ for details).

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Re: Where can I get CVS space for collaborative maintenance?

2003-03-26 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 06:36:51PM -0500, Morgon Kanter wrote:
> Have you tried sourceforge? ( http://sourceforge.net )

par condicio:

  have you tried savannah? ( http://savannah.gnu.org )

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Seeking a sponsor

2003-03-26 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi,

As the almost-last step in my Debian maintainer application, I'm looking 
for a sponsor for two packages:
- datefudge, a small preload library which warps system time for 
  programs (mostly for debugging; WNPP #186342),
- fdformat, an orphaned package I'd like to adopt (WNPP #170920)

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Re: Where can I get CVS space for collaborative maintenance?

2003-03-26 Thread Johannes Rohr
Stefano Zacchiroli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 06:36:51PM -0500, Morgon Kanter wrote:
> > Have you tried sourceforge? ( http://sourceforge.net )
> 
> par condicio:
> 
>   have you tried savannah? ( http://savannah.gnu.org )

[...]

Well, thanks everyone! I've got a lot of useful hints now and some
offers for server space were mailed to me in private. So I think I'll
find a place.

Thanks again,

Johannes


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debian-email@lists.debian.org

2003-03-26 Thread Drew Scott Daniels
Why is [EMAIL PROTECTED] not web accessible?
http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/ch-resources.en.html#s-mailing-lists-special
explains why debian-private isn't accessible.

Should I file a bug against the developer's reference or against
lists.debian.org? I don't think I'm stating a false dichotomy, as it should
either be available or explained somewhere why it is not.

Imho, debian-email should be publicly accessible and a bug should be
filed against lists.debian.org, but then I wonder if there's some
"private" email going to debian-email that shouldn't go to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: debian-email@lists.debian.org

2003-03-26 Thread calloway

unsubscribe

On Wed, 26 Mar 2003, Drew Scott Daniels wrote:

> Why is [EMAIL PROTECTED] not web accessible?
> http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/ch-resources.en.html#s-mailing-lists-special
> explains why debian-private isn't accessible.
>
> Should I file a bug against the developer's reference or against
> lists.debian.org? I don't think I'm stating a false dichotomy, as it should
> either be available or explained somewhere why it is not.
>
> Imho, debian-email should be publicly accessible and a bug should be
> filed against lists.debian.org, but then I wonder if there's some
> "private" email going to debian-email that shouldn't go to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>  Drew Daniels
>
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Anyone up for a spot of sponsorship? (and perchance advocacy?)

2003-03-26 Thread Liyang HU
Evening all,

I've been using Debian for quite a few years now, and felt for a long
time that I ought to contribute back to such a wonderful project. ^_^
I've been programming on and off (as a hobby, really. I'm still
a student) for much much longer than that though.

I was wondering if anyone would be willing to sponsor either or both of
yydecode[0] or netbrake[1], available from:

deb http://liyang.ucam.org/debian/ unstable main
deb-src http://liyang.ucam.org/debian/ unstable main

... and maybe later on advocate for me. ^_^

(FWIW, I already have my GPG key signed by an existing developer, though
not with their @debian.org address. I should be able to manage that (and
maybe a couple more) pretty easily though: we're in no short supply of
Debianites around these parts. )

Much appreciated,
/Liyang -- who can be found lurking on #debian-{uk,devel} on FreeNode
[0] My own creation, which I ought to move off SF some time...:
http://yydecode.sf.net/
[1] http://www.hping.org/netbrake/
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Re: RFS: moon-lander: An SDL game based on the classic moon lander

2003-03-26 Thread Joe Nahmias
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Hello again mentors!

It's been over two weeks since my last RFS, so I figured I'd try
again...

I have adopted the moon-lander package from an MIA DD, and packaged the
new upstream version.  Latest changelog entries are:

moon-lander (1:1.0-2) unstable; urgency=low

  * XPM files are text -- No need to uu{en,de}code.  Thanks Roger Ward!
  - debian/control: Build-deps -= sharutils.
  - debian/rules: remove references to uudecode.

 -- Joe Nahmias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  Tue, 11 Mar 2003 15:21:10 -0500

moon-lander (1:1.0-1) unstable; urgency=low

  * New upstream version.
  * debian/control:
  - New maintainer, closes: #182984.
  - Standards-Version ==> 3.5.8.0.
  - Build-deps: added sharutils for uudecode.
  * debian/rules: added CFLAGS handling for std-ver compliance.
  * New files:
  - debian/compat: set to 4.
  - debian/moon-lander.xpm.uue: icon for menu.
  - Makefile.Debian: rewrite of upstream's borked makefile for Debian.

 -- Joe Nahmias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  Mon, 10 Mar 2003 22:18:18 -0500


Build-Depends: debhelper (>> 4.0.0), libsdl1.2-dev (>= 1.2.2-3.1), 
libsdl-mixer1.2-dev, libsdl-image1.2-dev
Description: An SDL game based on the classic moon lander
 Moonlander is a fun and enjoyable modern graphical version (with sound) 
 of the classic moonlander game.  The objective is to land your rocketship
 safely using a limited amount of fuel while fighting gravity.

Package (source and i386 binary for sarge) is available via apt using:

deb http://www.cooper.edu/~nahmia/debian /
deb-src http://www.cooper.edu/~nahmia/debian /


Thanks in advance!

Joe Nahmias, DD wannabe
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Re: Where can I get CVS space for collaborative maintenance?

2003-03-26 Thread Christoph Haas
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 10:13:25PM +0100, Johannes Rohr wrote:
> I am co-maintaining a small package (nautilus-media) with another
> newbie maintainer. The best way to keep our work in sync would
> probably be setting up a CVS repository for that package. But since
> I'm behind a dialup line, setting it up on my box is not an option.

You could use a DynDNS service with the ddclient and set up a CVS server
which is accessible via SSH. If the package's sources are not a few MB
that should work.

We (a trio of weird geeks) are currently setting up a service at
http://mentors.debian.net. This is not exactly a CVS service but you
could later offer download of your package from there.

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irssi+silc

2003-03-26 Thread derek
hello all,

i'm a relatively experienced debian user and opensource hacker, and in
addition to being generally interested in knowing how to package .debs,
i have a specific need to make it easy to install a binary irssi with
silc-plugin and perl-scripting enabled on a number of different debian
servers at work.

i've successfully built and installed the packages from source (see URLs
at bottom), such that i can connect to a silc server from the modified
irssi binary, and have perl scripting work.  i've read most of the debian
policy manual carefully, and scoured the new maintainers guide, as well
as doing a pretty thorough overview of most of the other documentation
these two sources (plus my wee ol' brain) put me onto.

my question is this: what's the debian way to best package this?  i've
made a first stab at it this evening, which seems to have failed, but
i'm not even really sure i'm taking a good approach here.  i'll take a
few paragraphs to explain what i've done, and hopefully someone can
offer some good suggestions for how to proceed.

1) in a sandbox source directory, i made a subdir called
   irssi-silc-0.8.6.CVS.0.9.11/ and untar'd each of the tarballs into
   it.  because irssi is the "main" piece of this stuff, i then moved
   everything from irssi-0.8.6/ into the package dir before running
   dh_make.  my intention here was to start creation of a package called
   'irssi-silc'

2) ran dh_make
3) configured irssi and silc-plugin with
   --prefix=.../irssi-silc-0.8.6.CVS.0.9.11/debian/irssi-silc and
   --with-glib2
4) make irssi, make silc-client, make silc-plugin to install everything
   into debian/irssi-silc

it took me most of the night to get these steps worked out, and
everything successfully built (there seems to be a small bug in the
silc-plugin source that caused the 'make' to fail until i tweaked
src/fe-common/silc/fe-messages.c to say 'printnick' on line 88 instead
of 'printnicks'.  when i finished, i ran debian/irssi-silc/bin/irssi,
and it loaded up properly.  when i typed "/load silc" to load the
silc-plugin, i got:

Irssi: Error loading module silc/core: 
/.../irssi-silc-0.8.6.CVS.0.9.11/debian/irssi-silc/lib/irssi/modules/libsilc_core.so:
 undefined symbol: settings_get_time
Irssi: Error loading module silc/fe: 
/.../irssi-silc-0.8.6.CVS.0.9.11/debian/irssi-silc/lib/irssi/modules/libfe_silc.so:
 undefined symbol: silc_calloc
Irssi: Error loading module silc/core: 
/.../irssi-silc-0.8.6.CVS.0.9.11/debian/irssi-silc/lib/irssi/modules/libsilc_core.so:
 undefined symbol: settings_get_time

now, it may be that i'm too tired at this point, or that i fscked sumfin
up twiddling source here, but presumably i could get something like this
to build (since i've done it without the fancy --prefix flags). after
that i think what i want to do is modify debian/rules to configure and
build silc-plugin (and silc-client) at the same time.

am i on the right track here?

finally, let me fill in some other details i know about the debian
packages in question:

- silc-plugin already has a properly setup debian/ directory, which
  presumably helps me, but i don't really understand how.
- silcnet.org has deb-src packages available; again, i assume this helps
  me somehow, but i dont get how to use the work that's already been
  done here ;)
- digging around on http://debian.org/devel/wnpp/being_packaged, i
  noticed that someone's currently packaging irssi-icq, which again is
  theoretically helpful to me..
- i've located an unofficial package of irssi-text 0.8.6 via
  apt-get.org: http://people.debian.org/~nobse/debian/woody/backported

it occurs to me from this grouping of info that i might simply want some
kind of "meta" package that simply installs the correct set of packages
in such a way that they all play well with each other.. but how?

it seems clear that i've gotten myself in far too deep for a first
packaging attempt, but as i mentioned, i do have a specific need to
solve this problem.  anyone got some good pointers for how best to
proceed here?  have i left out any relevant pieces of info?

much thanks in advance,
derek

URLs:
[1] http://www.irssi.org/files/irssi-0.8.6.tar.gz
[2] 
http://www.penguin-breeder.org/silc/download/silc-plugin-0.8.6.CVS.0.9.11.tar.gz
[3] http://www.silcnet.org/download/client/sources/silc-client-0.9.11.tar.gz



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Re: Seeking sponsorship

2003-03-26 Thread Mark Howard
On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 20:23, Harris, Jason wrote:
> I have used Debian since Potato, but I have never packaged.  I have
> often wanted to know the process needed to get changes in, 

Well this part's very easy. Just add a comment or a patch to a bug
report and the package maintainer should include it in the next release.
The following pages list bugs which are particularly in need of your
help.
http://master.debian.org/~ajt/oldbugs.html
http://qa.debian.org/bts-help.html
more are listed at 
http://qa.debian.org/

Also, you can find lists of other bugs which might interest you at
http://bugs.debian.org/your-favourite-package


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Re: Where can I get CVS space for collaborative maintenance?

2003-03-26 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 06:36:51PM -0500, Morgon Kanter wrote:
>> So can anyone tell me, where to turn in search of CVS space?

> Have you tried sourceforge? ( http://sourceforge.net )

I suggest you avoid SourceForge. See
http://fsfeurope.org/news/article2001-10-20-01.en.html for the
reasons.

But you can use http://savannah.nongnu.org/

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Re: Where can I get CVS space for collaborative maintenance?

2003-03-26 Thread Roland Mas
Rene Engelhard (2003-03-26 02:27:46 +0100) :

> Johannes Rohr wrote:
>> So can anyone tell me, where to turn in search of CVS space?

[...]

> Well, normally, there is cvs.debian.org.
>
> But [...] it seems that it is closed anyway

Its functionality is to be provided by the soon-to-be-announced Alioth
(see http://alioth.debian.org/ for details).

Roland.
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Re: Where can I get CVS space for collaborative maintenance?

2003-03-26 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 06:36:51PM -0500, Morgon Kanter wrote:
> Have you tried sourceforge? ( http://sourceforge.net )

par condicio:

  have you tried savannah? ( http://savannah.gnu.org )

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Seeking a sponsor

2003-03-26 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi,

As the almost-last step in my Debian maintainer application, I'm looking 
for a sponsor for two packages:
- datefudge, a small preload library which warps system time for 
  programs (mostly for debugging; WNPP #186342),
- fdformat, an orphaned package I'd like to adopt (WNPP #170920)

Thanks!

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Re: Where can I get CVS space for collaborative maintenance?

2003-03-26 Thread Johannes Rohr
Stefano Zacchiroli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 06:36:51PM -0500, Morgon Kanter wrote:
> > Have you tried sourceforge? ( http://sourceforge.net )
> 
> par condicio:
> 
>   have you tried savannah? ( http://savannah.gnu.org )

[...]

Well, thanks everyone! I've got a lot of useful hints now and some
offers for server space were mailed to me in private. So I think I'll
find a place.

Thanks again,

Johannes



debian-email@lists.debian.org

2003-03-26 Thread Drew Scott Daniels
Why is [EMAIL PROTECTED] not web accessible?
http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/ch-resources.en.html#s-mailing-lists-special
explains why debian-private isn't accessible.

Should I file a bug against the developer's reference or against
lists.debian.org? I don't think I'm stating a false dichotomy, as it should
either be available or explained somewhere why it is not.

Imho, debian-email should be publicly accessible and a bug should be
filed against lists.debian.org, but then I wonder if there's some
"private" email going to debian-email that shouldn't go to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Drew Daniels



Re: debian-email@lists.debian.org

2003-03-26 Thread calloway

unsubscribe

On Wed, 26 Mar 2003, Drew Scott Daniels wrote:

> Why is [EMAIL PROTECTED] not web accessible?
> http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/ch-resources.en.html#s-mailing-lists-special
> explains why debian-private isn't accessible.
>
> Should I file a bug against the developer's reference or against
> lists.debian.org? I don't think I'm stating a false dichotomy, as it should
> either be available or explained somewhere why it is not.
>
> Imho, debian-email should be publicly accessible and a bug should be
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Anyone up for a spot of sponsorship? (and perchance advocacy?)

2003-03-26 Thread Liyang HU
Evening all,

I've been using Debian for quite a few years now, and felt for a long
time that I ought to contribute back to such a wonderful project. ^_^
I've been programming on and off (as a hobby, really. I'm still
a student) for much much longer than that though.

I was wondering if anyone would be willing to sponsor either or both of
yydecode[0] or netbrake[1], available from:

deb http://liyang.ucam.org/debian/ unstable main
deb-src http://liyang.ucam.org/debian/ unstable main

... and maybe later on advocate for me. ^_^

(FWIW, I already have my GPG key signed by an existing developer, though
not with their @debian.org address. I should be able to manage that (and
maybe a couple more) pretty easily though: we're in no short supply of
Debianites around these parts. )

Much appreciated,
/Liyang -- who can be found lurking on #debian-{uk,devel} on FreeNode
[0] My own creation, which I ought to move off SF some time...:
http://yydecode.sf.net/
[1] http://www.hping.org/netbrake/
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