Re: How to detect if Sendmail/Postfix/Qmail is installed
On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 03:37:25PM -0800, John H. Robinson, IV wrote: > to throw even more monkeywrenches in the gearbox, some people may have > compiled an MTA outside of the packaging system, and be using qmail/ > sendmail/postfix (the uspported MTA's) but not have it registered with > apt/dpkg at all. well that is a slippery slope, because with that argument you could kill any dependancies anywhere. if someone is replacing a package with something outside of debians control than that person is responsible for telling debian that the dependancy is fullfilled after all. if a mail-server is needed then a mailserver is needed. therefore it should be listed as dependancy. greetings, martin. -- interested in doing pike programming, sTeam/caudium/pike/roxen training, sTeam/caudium/roxen and/or unix system administration anywhere in the world. -- pike programmer working in europe csl-gmbh.net open-steam.org (www.archlab|(www|db).hb2).tuwien.ac.at unixbahai.or.at iaeste.(tuwien.ac|or).at systemadministrator (stuts|black.linux-m68k).orgis.(schon.org|root.at) Martin Bähr http://www.iaeste.or.at/~mbaehr/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to detect if Sendmail/Postfix/Qmail is installed
Hi, On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 01:14:25PM +0100, Martin Baehr wrote: > On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 03:37:25PM -0800, John H. Robinson, IV wrote: > > to throw even more monkeywrenches in the gearbox, some people may have > > compiled an MTA outside of the packaging system, and be using qmail/ > > sendmail/postfix (the uspported MTA's) but not have it registered with > > apt/dpkg at all. > > well that is a slippery slope, > because with that argument you could kill any dependancies anywhere. > > if someone is replacing a package with something outside of debians > control than that person is responsible for telling debian that the > dependancy is fullfilled after all. if a mail-server is needed then > a mailserver is needed. therefore it should be listed as dependancy. Perhaps. However, I think that specifying a dependency on services that can be accessed using well defined protocols instead of library APIs is an equally slippery slope. For example, I'd truly hate it if something would specify a dependency on mysql-server when a package merely requires you to configure a hostname, username and password to a working database somewhere. As a suggestion: why not draw the border at network interfaces vs. programmatic interfaces? A package that that calls /usr/bin/sendmail -t to queue mail could depend on virtual package that supplies this interface, but a package that connects to port 25 somewhere should not, even though it depends on an MTA for correct operation. The same for port 80 or port 3306. It would be nice if standard programmatic interfaces such as the /usr/bin/sendmail example would always have virtual packages and an easy way for administrators to tell dpkg that something provides this common interface, without having to go out of your way to build a full package. I may be missing something that already exists though; in that case I appreciate any pointers you have. Cheers, Emile. -- E-Advies / Emile van Bergen | [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel. +31 (0)70 3906153| http://www.e-advies.info pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
public access to crest.d.o
hello list, there is a bug reported (Bug#178971) against one of my packages which only seems to occur on m68k. since i want to test my package before the next release, i thought about doing test-runs on crest.d.o. the website at db.d.o/machines.cgi says that this machine is accessble by "all". so, which user and which password are supposed to used when connecting to crest.d.o being "all"? or does it work differently? do i have to apply somewhere? cheers, sebastian -- ::: sebastian henschel ::: kodeaffe ::: lynx -source http://www.kodeaffe.de/shensche.pub | gpg --import pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
duplicate-conffile error ???
Hello, ... I am preparing a new version of one of my packages, and lintian claims that : $ lintian ocaml-base-3.06-1_3.06-16_i386.deb E: ocaml-base-3.06-1: duplicate-conffile /etc/ocaml/ld.conf And effectively, if i open the .deb, i see that /etc/ocaml/ld.conf is listed two times as conffile. Now, i have debian/ocaml-base-3.06-1.conffiles which contains only one copy of /etc/ocaml/ld.conf, not two, so i have no idea where this second copy does come from. I am using debhelper, and i guess one of the debhelpers is responsible for this. Does anyone have an idea of where this is coming from ? Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: duplicate-conffile error ???
Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hello, ... > > I am preparing a new version of one of my packages, and lintian claims > that : > > $ lintian ocaml-base-3.06-1_3.06-16_i386.deb > E: ocaml-base-3.06-1: duplicate-conffile /etc/ocaml/ld.conf > > And effectively, if i open the .deb, i see that /etc/ocaml/ld.conf is > listed two times as conffile. > > Now, i have debian/ocaml-base-3.06-1.conffiles which contains only one > copy of /etc/ocaml/ld.conf, not two, so i have no idea where this second > copy does come from. > > I am using debhelper, and i guess one of the debhelpers is responsible > for this. Does anyone have an idea of where this is coming from ? Debhelp automaticaly adds every /etc file to conffile. So, remove this entry from ocaml-base-3.06-1.conffiles. Cheers, -- Jérôme Marant http://marant.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: duplicate-conffile error ???
On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 09:58:11PM +0100, Jérôme Marant wrote: > Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Hello, ... > > > > I am preparing a new version of one of my packages, and lintian claims > > that : > > > > $ lintian ocaml-base-3.06-1_3.06-16_i386.deb > > E: ocaml-base-3.06-1: duplicate-conffile /etc/ocaml/ld.conf > > > > And effectively, if i open the .deb, i see that /etc/ocaml/ld.conf is > > listed two times as conffile. > > > > Now, i have debian/ocaml-base-3.06-1.conffiles which contains only one > > copy of /etc/ocaml/ld.conf, not two, so i have no idea where this second > > copy does come from. > > > > I am using debhelper, and i guess one of the debhelpers is responsible > > for this. Does anyone have an idea of where this is coming from ? > > Debhelp automaticaly adds every /etc file to conffile. > So, remove this entry from ocaml-base-3.06-1.conffiles. Ok, thanks will do. Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: duplicate-conffile error ???
Hi! On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 09:31:10PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > Hello, ... > > I am preparing a new version of one of my packages, and lintian claims > that : > > $ lintian ocaml-base-3.06-1_3.06-16_i386.deb > E: ocaml-base-3.06-1: duplicate-conffile /etc/ocaml/ld.conf > > And effectively, if i open the .deb, i see that /etc/ocaml/ld.conf is > listed two times as conffile. > > Now, i have debian/ocaml-base-3.06-1.conffiles which contains only one > copy of /etc/ocaml/ld.conf, not two, so i have no idea where this second > copy does come from. > > I am using debhelper, and i guess one of the debhelpers is responsible > for this. Does anyone have an idea of where this is coming from ? That's because of dh_installdeb. According to the manpage: In V3 compatability mode and higher, all files in the etc/ directory in a package will automatically be flagged as conffiles by this program, so there is no need to list them manually in package.conffiles. So you should not list the files in /tmp in ocaml-base-3.06-1.conffiles; your ocaml-base-3.06-1.conffiles should most probably be empty... Regards, Nicolas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: duplicate-conffile error ???
Hello Sven, Sven Luther wrote: > I am using debhelper, and i guess one of the debhelpers is responsible > for this. Does anyone have an idea of where this is coming from ? man debhelper says that for compat mode >= 3: Every file in etc/ is automatically flagged as a conffile by dh_installdeb. Cheers Thomas pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: duplicate-conffile error ???
Jérôme Marant wrote: Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hello, ... I am preparing a new version of one of my packages, and lintian claims that : $ lintian ocaml-base-3.06-1_3.06-16_i386.deb E: ocaml-base-3.06-1: duplicate-conffile /etc/ocaml/ld.conf And effectively, if i open the .deb, i see that /etc/ocaml/ld.conf is listed two times as conffile. Now, i have debian/ocaml-base-3.06-1.conffiles which contains only one copy of /etc/ocaml/ld.conf, not two, so i have no idea where this second copy does come from. I am using debhelper, and i guess one of the debhelpers is responsible for this. Does anyone have an idea of where this is coming from ? Debhelp automaticaly adds every /etc file to conffile. So, remove this entry from ocaml-base-3.06-1.conffiles. I've been getting this error too. I just have a conffiles file in my debian directory. It contains one /etc/ line. But if I remove this line, what do I do instead? Add "install /etc/" to the makefile? or the rules file? And then it will automatically add this to the conffile? Thanks, -- David J. Grant Masters Candidate a-Si and Integrated Circuits Lab University of Waterloo Room DC2551A 519-888-4567 x2327 http://www.eng.uwaterloo.ca/~djgrant -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: duplicate-conffile error ???
David Grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>Debhelp automaticaly adds every /etc file to conffile. >>So, remove this entry from ocaml-base-3.06-1.conffiles. >> > I've been getting this error too. I just have a conffiles file in my > debian directory. It contains one /etc/ line. But if I > remove this line, what do I do instead? Add "install > /etc/" to the makefile? or the rules file? And then it > will automatically add this to the conffile? I think you misunderstood what I said :-) In other words, I said "Do nothing. Debhelper does it for you" :-) Remove conffile, and debhelper will feed a completely new one. Cheers, -- Jérôme Marant http://marant.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
no debian/ocaml-native-compilers-3.06-1/DEBIAN/control ???
Hello, It is me again, ... While trying to build my package on sparc, i get : dpkg-deb: failed to open package info file `debian/ocaml-native-compilers-3.06-1/DEBIAN/control' for reading: No such file or directory which has me trully baffled. The package builds fine on i386, and two other binary packages provided by the source package get build fine. Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A new package which I would like to add to Debian
There is a biology/bio-informatics package which I would like to add to debian. I have easily installed this package under woody and would like to know what steps I should take to turn this piece of software into a deb. My first question is "Am I writing to the correct list?". If I am not writing to the correct list at this point, please let me know. My other questions have to do with what I should read to learn how to properly debianize this package. As far as I know it is free-ware, but may end up under non-free. Thank you everyone who replies, Kevin J. Kalupson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: A new package which I would like to add to Debian
Kevin J. Kalupson wrote: There is a biology/bio-informatics package which I would like to add to debian. I have easily installed this package under woody and would like to know what steps I should take to turn this piece of software into a deb. My first question is "Am I writing to the correct list?". If I am not writing to the correct list at this point, please let me know. My other questions have to do with what I should read to learn how to properly debianize this package. As far as I know it is free-ware, but may end up under non-free. Thank you everyone who replies, Kevin J. Kalupson I just started a couple weeks ago myself... Reading this "New Maintainers Guide" is a must: http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/index.en.html It's instructions are actually very accurate and complete. If you go to the Debian Home Page and click on Developer's Corner, you'll end up here: http://www.debian.org/devel On the right-hand side of the are some useful packaging links. The Debian Policy Manual, Developer's Reference, and the menu systems and FHS are the only possible ones you could need to make a first crack at a package. Oh, and I recommend debhelper as opposed to dmake. Also, install the reportbug package, and then report a bug for wnpp (work-needing and prospective packages) package by typing "reportbug wnpp" or just running "reportbug" and selecting "wnpp" from the menu. You can look through the list for your package (unless you are already positive that no one is packaging it, in which case you press 's' to skip). Then select ITP (Intent to Package) and then procede from there. Good luck, Dave -- David J. Grant M.A.Sc. Candidate a-Si and Integrated Circuits Group University of Waterloo Ontario, Canada 519-880-0665 http://www.eng.uwaterloo.ca/~djgrant -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to detect if Sendmail/Postfix/Qmail is installed
On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 03:37:25PM -0800, John H. Robinson, IV wrote: > to throw even more monkeywrenches in the gearbox, some people may have > compiled an MTA outside of the packaging system, and be using qmail/ > sendmail/postfix (the uspported MTA's) but not have it registered with > apt/dpkg at all. well that is a slippery slope, because with that argument you could kill any dependancies anywhere. if someone is replacing a package with something outside of debians control than that person is responsible for telling debian that the dependancy is fullfilled after all. if a mail-server is needed then a mailserver is needed. therefore it should be listed as dependancy. greetings, martin. -- interested in doing pike programming, sTeam/caudium/pike/roxen training, sTeam/caudium/roxen and/or unix system administration anywhere in the world. -- pike programmer working in europe csl-gmbh.net open-steam.org (www.archlab|(www|db).hb2).tuwien.ac.at unixbahai.or.at iaeste.(tuwien.ac|or).at systemadministrator (stuts|black.linux-m68k).orgis.(schon.org|root.at) Martin Bähr http://www.iaeste.or.at/~mbaehr/
Re: How to detect if Sendmail/Postfix/Qmail is installed
Hi, On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 01:14:25PM +0100, Martin Baehr wrote: > On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 03:37:25PM -0800, John H. Robinson, IV wrote: > > to throw even more monkeywrenches in the gearbox, some people may have > > compiled an MTA outside of the packaging system, and be using qmail/ > > sendmail/postfix (the uspported MTA's) but not have it registered with > > apt/dpkg at all. > > well that is a slippery slope, > because with that argument you could kill any dependancies anywhere. > > if someone is replacing a package with something outside of debians > control than that person is responsible for telling debian that the > dependancy is fullfilled after all. if a mail-server is needed then > a mailserver is needed. therefore it should be listed as dependancy. Perhaps. However, I think that specifying a dependency on services that can be accessed using well defined protocols instead of library APIs is an equally slippery slope. For example, I'd truly hate it if something would specify a dependency on mysql-server when a package merely requires you to configure a hostname, username and password to a working database somewhere. As a suggestion: why not draw the border at network interfaces vs. programmatic interfaces? A package that that calls /usr/bin/sendmail -t to queue mail could depend on virtual package that supplies this interface, but a package that connects to port 25 somewhere should not, even though it depends on an MTA for correct operation. The same for port 80 or port 3306. It would be nice if standard programmatic interfaces such as the /usr/bin/sendmail example would always have virtual packages and an easy way for administrators to tell dpkg that something provides this common interface, without having to go out of your way to build a full package. I may be missing something that already exists though; in that case I appreciate any pointers you have. Cheers, Emile. -- E-Advies / Emile van Bergen | [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel. +31 (0)70 3906153| http://www.e-advies.info pgpvKxVvk9UXA.pgp Description: PGP signature
public access to crest.d.o
hello list, there is a bug reported (Bug#178971) against one of my packages which only seems to occur on m68k. since i want to test my package before the next release, i thought about doing test-runs on crest.d.o. the website at db.d.o/machines.cgi says that this machine is accessble by "all". so, which user and which password are supposed to used when connecting to crest.d.o being "all"? or does it work differently? do i have to apply somewhere? cheers, sebastian -- ::: sebastian henschel ::: kodeaffe ::: lynx -source http://www.kodeaffe.de/shensche.pub | gpg --import pgpv9Az4jTqoC.pgp Description: PGP signature
duplicate-conffile error ???
Hello, ... I am preparing a new version of one of my packages, and lintian claims that : $ lintian ocaml-base-3.06-1_3.06-16_i386.deb E: ocaml-base-3.06-1: duplicate-conffile /etc/ocaml/ld.conf And effectively, if i open the .deb, i see that /etc/ocaml/ld.conf is listed two times as conffile. Now, i have debian/ocaml-base-3.06-1.conffiles which contains only one copy of /etc/ocaml/ld.conf, not two, so i have no idea where this second copy does come from. I am using debhelper, and i guess one of the debhelpers is responsible for this. Does anyone have an idea of where this is coming from ? Friendly, Sven Luther
Re: duplicate-conffile error ???
Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hello, ... > > I am preparing a new version of one of my packages, and lintian claims > that : > > $ lintian ocaml-base-3.06-1_3.06-16_i386.deb > E: ocaml-base-3.06-1: duplicate-conffile /etc/ocaml/ld.conf > > And effectively, if i open the .deb, i see that /etc/ocaml/ld.conf is > listed two times as conffile. > > Now, i have debian/ocaml-base-3.06-1.conffiles which contains only one > copy of /etc/ocaml/ld.conf, not two, so i have no idea where this second > copy does come from. > > I am using debhelper, and i guess one of the debhelpers is responsible > for this. Does anyone have an idea of where this is coming from ? Debhelp automaticaly adds every /etc file to conffile. So, remove this entry from ocaml-base-3.06-1.conffiles. Cheers, -- Jérôme Marant http://marant.org
Re: duplicate-conffile error ???
On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 09:58:11PM +0100, Jérôme Marant wrote: > Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Hello, ... > > > > I am preparing a new version of one of my packages, and lintian claims > > that : > > > > $ lintian ocaml-base-3.06-1_3.06-16_i386.deb > > E: ocaml-base-3.06-1: duplicate-conffile /etc/ocaml/ld.conf > > > > And effectively, if i open the .deb, i see that /etc/ocaml/ld.conf is > > listed two times as conffile. > > > > Now, i have debian/ocaml-base-3.06-1.conffiles which contains only one > > copy of /etc/ocaml/ld.conf, not two, so i have no idea where this second > > copy does come from. > > > > I am using debhelper, and i guess one of the debhelpers is responsible > > for this. Does anyone have an idea of where this is coming from ? > > Debhelp automaticaly adds every /etc file to conffile. > So, remove this entry from ocaml-base-3.06-1.conffiles. Ok, thanks will do. Friendly, Sven Luther
Re: duplicate-conffile error ???
Hi! On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 09:31:10PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > Hello, ... > > I am preparing a new version of one of my packages, and lintian claims > that : > > $ lintian ocaml-base-3.06-1_3.06-16_i386.deb > E: ocaml-base-3.06-1: duplicate-conffile /etc/ocaml/ld.conf > > And effectively, if i open the .deb, i see that /etc/ocaml/ld.conf is > listed two times as conffile. > > Now, i have debian/ocaml-base-3.06-1.conffiles which contains only one > copy of /etc/ocaml/ld.conf, not two, so i have no idea where this second > copy does come from. > > I am using debhelper, and i guess one of the debhelpers is responsible > for this. Does anyone have an idea of where this is coming from ? That's because of dh_installdeb. According to the manpage: In V3 compatability mode and higher, all files in the etc/ directory in a package will automatically be flagged as conffiles by this program, so there is no need to list them manually in package.conffiles. So you should not list the files in /tmp in ocaml-base-3.06-1.conffiles; your ocaml-base-3.06-1.conffiles should most probably be empty... Regards, Nicolas
Re: duplicate-conffile error ???
Hello Sven, Sven Luther wrote: > I am using debhelper, and i guess one of the debhelpers is responsible > for this. Does anyone have an idea of where this is coming from ? man debhelper says that for compat mode >= 3: Every file in etc/ is automatically flagged as a conffile by dh_installdeb. Cheers Thomas pgp5vrmURr2kL.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: duplicate-conffile error ???
Jérôme Marant wrote: Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hello, ... I am preparing a new version of one of my packages, and lintian claims that : $ lintian ocaml-base-3.06-1_3.06-16_i386.deb E: ocaml-base-3.06-1: duplicate-conffile /etc/ocaml/ld.conf And effectively, if i open the .deb, i see that /etc/ocaml/ld.conf is listed two times as conffile. Now, i have debian/ocaml-base-3.06-1.conffiles which contains only one copy of /etc/ocaml/ld.conf, not two, so i have no idea where this second copy does come from. I am using debhelper, and i guess one of the debhelpers is responsible for this. Does anyone have an idea of where this is coming from ? Debhelp automaticaly adds every /etc file to conffile. So, remove this entry from ocaml-base-3.06-1.conffiles. I've been getting this error too. I just have a conffiles file in my debian directory. It contains one /etc/ line. But if I remove this line, what do I do instead? Add "install /etc/" to the makefile? or the rules file? And then it will automatically add this to the conffile? Thanks, -- David J. Grant Masters Candidate a-Si and Integrated Circuits Lab University of Waterloo Room DC2551A 519-888-4567 x2327 http://www.eng.uwaterloo.ca/~djgrant
Re: duplicate-conffile error ???
David Grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>Debhelp automaticaly adds every /etc file to conffile. >>So, remove this entry from ocaml-base-3.06-1.conffiles. >> > I've been getting this error too. I just have a conffiles file in my > debian directory. It contains one /etc/ line. But if I > remove this line, what do I do instead? Add "install > /etc/" to the makefile? or the rules file? And then it > will automatically add this to the conffile? I think you misunderstood what I said :-) In other words, I said "Do nothing. Debhelper does it for you" :-) Remove conffile, and debhelper will feed a completely new one. Cheers, -- Jérôme Marant http://marant.org
no debian/ocaml-native-compilers-3.06-1/DEBIAN/control ???
Hello, It is me again, ... While trying to build my package on sparc, i get : dpkg-deb: failed to open package info file `debian/ocaml-native-compilers-3.06-1/DEBIAN/control' for reading: No such file or directory which has me trully baffled. The package builds fine on i386, and two other binary packages provided by the source package get build fine. Friendly, Sven Luther
