How to force porters to rebuild a package

2002-10-17 Thread Marco Kuhlmann

Dear mentors:

How do I force a rebuild on buildd?  One of my package could not
be built due to a bug in debhelper which is now solved.  Two of
the architectures have already built the package successfully now
that the new version is available; can I trigger the other
architectures to try a new build as well?

- Marco




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Re: How to force porters to rebuild a package

2002-10-17 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Marco!

You wrote:

> How do I force a rebuild on buildd?  One of my package could not
> be built due to a bug in debhelper which is now solved.  Two of
> the architectures have already built the package successfully now
> that the new version is available; can I trigger the other
> architectures to try a new build as well?

If you uploaded a new package, the buildds will automagically build it.
I could take some time, though.

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Re: How to force porters to rebuild a package

2002-10-17 Thread Marco Kuhlmann
* Bas Zoetekouw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (2002-10-17 12:17:56 +0200):

> If you uploaded a new package, the buildds will automagically
> build it.  I could take some time, though.

Sorry, I did not make myself clear: I did not upload a new
package -- I want to trigger a new build attempt for an old
package of mine now that debhelper has been fixed.

- Marco



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Re: How to force porters to rebuild a package

2002-10-17 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Don, 2002-10-17 at 13:40, Sven Luther wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 01:16:43PM +0200, Marco Kuhlmann wrote:
> > * Bas Zoetekouw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (2002-10-17 12:17:56 +0200):
> > 
> > > If you uploaded a new package, the buildds will automagically
> > > build it.  I could take some time, though.
> > 
> > Sorry, I did not make myself clear: I did not upload a new
> > package -- I want to trigger a new build attempt for an old
> > package of mine now that debhelper has been fixed.
> 
> The autobuilder retry old packages that failed on a regular basis, just
> wait some time for them to do it. Some will try daily, other weekly and
> other will retry when they have time for it.
> 
> You could wait a week or so, and if the situation doesn't improve,
> contact the autobuilder maintainer.
> 
> Alternatively, you could login on a debian paroject machine, and build
> the program yourself.

The best way to ensure the correct debhelper version is used would be a
new package with a versioned build dependency anyway IMHO.


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Re: How to force porters to rebuild a package

2002-10-17 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Sven!

You wrote:

> > Sorry, I did not make myself clear: I did not upload a new
> > package -- I want to trigger a new build attempt for an old
> > package of mine now that debhelper has been fixed.
> 
> The autobuilder retry old packages that failed on a regular basis, just
> wait some time for them to do it. Some will try daily, other weekly and
> other will retry when they have time for it.
> 
> You could wait a week or so, and if the situation doesn't improve,
> contact the autobuilder maintainer.
> 
> Alternatively, you could login on a debian paroject machine, and build
> the program yourself.

Or just upload a new version.

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Re: How to force porters to rebuild a package

2002-10-17 Thread Drew Parsons
On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 11:44:14AM +0200, Marco Kuhlmann wrote:
> 
> How do I force a rebuild on buildd?

And more to the point [ ;) ], how do I force the autobuilder maintainers to
actually upload my package once it has been autobuilt?

The s390 version of xprint-xprintorg has been built for a whole week now[1],
but it still hasn't been uploaded to the archive[2].  All other
architectures have been uploaded.

Drew

[1] http://buildd.debian.org/build.php?pkg=xprint-xprintorg
[2] http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/x/xprint-xprintorg/

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Dependencies to special versions

2002-10-17 Thread Stefan Schimanski
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Hi,

I have a problem with dependencies in some of my packages:

There is a "task" package which just depends on the concrete version  
of the children. It looks like this:

- - debian/contrl ---
Package: foo
Depends: foo-doc (= ${Source-Version}), foo-misc (= ${Source-Version})
...

Package: foo-misc
Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}
...

Package: foo-doc
...
- 

When I have installed an old version, say foo-1.0-1 and its children 
with the same version, foo will depend on foo-doc-1.0-1 and 
foo-misc-1.0-1.

Now I create a new version 1.0-2 of all packages and try to upgrade. 
apt-get will download the files and unpacks them. Before 
configuration of foo-1.0-2 it complains that foo-doc and foo-misc are 
not installed in the newer version. Moreover it can't upgrade them 
because it would break the dependency of the installed foo-1.0-1.

My theory is that this kind of dependencies is insane, because on 
update there is no way to upgrade everything in an atomic action 
which would be necessary to keep all dependencies working all the 
time. Is this correct?

The work around/fix I imagine is to just depend on the package without 
any revision or use something like 

Depends: foo-doc (>= ${Source-Version}), foo-misc (>= 
${Source-Version})

Is this correct or how would I solve a 1-1 relation between several 
packages?

Thnx in advance
  Schimmi
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Re: How to force porters to rebuild a package

2002-10-17 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 01:16:43PM +0200, Marco Kuhlmann wrote:
> * Bas Zoetekouw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (2002-10-17 12:17:56 +0200):
> 
> > If you uploaded a new package, the buildds will automagically
> > build it.  I could take some time, though.
> 
> Sorry, I did not make myself clear: I did not upload a new
> package -- I want to trigger a new build attempt for an old
> package of mine now that debhelper has been fixed.

The autobuilder retry old packages that failed on a regular basis, just
wait some time for them to do it. Some will try daily, other weekly and
other will retry when they have time for it.

You could wait a week or so, and if the situation doesn't improve,
contact the autobuilder maintainer.

Alternatively, you could login on a debian paroject machine, and build
the program yourself.

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Re: How to force porters to rebuild a package

2002-10-17 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 03:15:35PM +0200, Bas Zoetekouw wrote:
> Hi Sven!
> 
> You wrote:
> 
> > > Sorry, I did not make myself clear: I did not upload a new
> > > package -- I want to trigger a new build attempt for an old
> > > package of mine now that debhelper has been fixed.
> > 
> > The autobuilder retry old packages that failed on a regular basis, just
> > wait some time for them to do it. Some will try daily, other weekly and
> > other will retry when they have time for it.
> > 
> > You could wait a week or so, and if the situation doesn't improve,
> > contact the autobuilder maintainer.
> > 
> > Alternatively, you could login on a debian paroject machine, and build
> > the program yourself.
> 
> Or just upload a new version.

It may be right in this case as michel said, but in general i don't think
being impatient with the autobuilders warrants the upload of a new
version.

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Debhelper files w/ meta values

2002-10-17 Thread Joel Baker
Is there a way to specify the following in a Debhelper file (such as
.dirs or .links)?

usr/include/$(SHELLVARIABLE)/foo.h

(Note: it doesn't *have* to be a shell variable; just some form of meta
value that I can control when invoking dh_installdirs or dh_installlinks,
etc).

I could use m4, but it gives me the shivers to think about; is there any
straightforward way to do this other than building the file from an m4
source or such?
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Re: How to force porters to rebuild a package

2002-10-17 Thread Stefan Schwandter
Drew Parsons wrote:

> And more to the point [ ;) ], how do I force the autobuilder maintainers to
> actually upload my package once it has been autobuilt?

> The s390 version of xprint-xprintorg has been built for a whole week now[1],
> but it still hasn't been uploaded to the archive[2].  All other
> architectures have been uploaded.

I don't think you will be able to _force_ anybody to anything. But you
could ask the porters (by writing to the mailing list of the particular
port, for example) if too much time has passed (say, some weeks), to
have a look at your problem.


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Re: other way

2002-10-17 Thread Ralf Treinen
On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 08:41:10PM +, Bruno Barrera C wrote:

> become as new mantainer, but i got a problem that there is no chilean
> debian developers , who could sign my GPG key, and i dont have drive
> card.
> It is possible if I send my Chilean Identify Card, as a way to identify
> me?

Hi,

other ways of proving your identity may be acceptable in case you
cannot meet another debian developer to sign your key. How this can
be done should be discussed with your application manger.

Anyway, you should register your request on the key signing
coordination page http://nm.debian.org/gpg.php. This way,
debian members travelling you Chile can try to meet you. (For instance,
I was in Chile myself 2 months ago). 

Good luck -Ralf.



How to force porters to rebuild a package

2002-10-17 Thread Marco Kuhlmann
Dear mentors:

How do I force a rebuild on buildd?  One of my package could not
be built due to a bug in debhelper which is now solved.  Two of
the architectures have already built the package successfully now
that the new version is available; can I trigger the other
architectures to try a new build as well?

- Marco



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Re: How to force porters to rebuild a package

2002-10-17 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Marco!

You wrote:

> How do I force a rebuild on buildd?  One of my package could not
> be built due to a bug in debhelper which is now solved.  Two of
> the architectures have already built the package successfully now
> that the new version is available; can I trigger the other
> architectures to try a new build as well?

If you uploaded a new package, the buildds will automagically build it.
I could take some time, though.

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Re: How to force porters to rebuild a package

2002-10-17 Thread Marco Kuhlmann
* Bas Zoetekouw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (2002-10-17 12:17:56 +0200):

> If you uploaded a new package, the buildds will automagically
> build it.  I could take some time, though.

Sorry, I did not make myself clear: I did not upload a new
package -- I want to trigger a new build attempt for an old
package of mine now that debhelper has been fixed.

- Marco


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Re: How to force porters to rebuild a package

2002-10-17 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 01:16:43PM +0200, Marco Kuhlmann wrote:
> * Bas Zoetekouw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (2002-10-17 12:17:56 +0200):
> 
> > If you uploaded a new package, the buildds will automagically
> > build it.  I could take some time, though.
> 
> Sorry, I did not make myself clear: I did not upload a new
> package -- I want to trigger a new build attempt for an old
> package of mine now that debhelper has been fixed.

The autobuilder retry old packages that failed on a regular basis, just
wait some time for them to do it. Some will try daily, other weekly and
other will retry when they have time for it.

You could wait a week or so, and if the situation doesn't improve,
contact the autobuilder maintainer.

Alternatively, you could login on a debian paroject machine, and build
the program yourself.

Friendly,

Sven Luther



Re: How to force porters to rebuild a package

2002-10-17 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Don, 2002-10-17 at 13:40, Sven Luther wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 01:16:43PM +0200, Marco Kuhlmann wrote:
> > * Bas Zoetekouw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (2002-10-17 12:17:56 +0200):
> > 
> > > If you uploaded a new package, the buildds will automagically
> > > build it.  I could take some time, though.
> > 
> > Sorry, I did not make myself clear: I did not upload a new
> > package -- I want to trigger a new build attempt for an old
> > package of mine now that debhelper has been fixed.
> 
> The autobuilder retry old packages that failed on a regular basis, just
> wait some time for them to do it. Some will try daily, other weekly and
> other will retry when they have time for it.
> 
> You could wait a week or so, and if the situation doesn't improve,
> contact the autobuilder maintainer.
> 
> Alternatively, you could login on a debian paroject machine, and build
> the program yourself.

The best way to ensure the correct debhelper version is used would be a
new package with a versioned build dependency anyway IMHO.


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Re: How to force porters to rebuild a package

2002-10-17 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Sven!

You wrote:

> > Sorry, I did not make myself clear: I did not upload a new
> > package -- I want to trigger a new build attempt for an old
> > package of mine now that debhelper has been fixed.
> 
> The autobuilder retry old packages that failed on a regular basis, just
> wait some time for them to do it. Some will try daily, other weekly and
> other will retry when they have time for it.
> 
> You could wait a week or so, and if the situation doesn't improve,
> contact the autobuilder maintainer.
> 
> Alternatively, you could login on a debian paroject machine, and build
> the program yourself.

Or just upload a new version.

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Re: How to force porters to rebuild a package

2002-10-17 Thread Drew Parsons
On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 11:44:14AM +0200, Marco Kuhlmann wrote:
> 
> How do I force a rebuild on buildd?

And more to the point [ ;) ], how do I force the autobuilder maintainers to
actually upload my package once it has been autobuilt?

The s390 version of xprint-xprintorg has been built for a whole week now[1],
but it still hasn't been uploaded to the archive[2].  All other
architectures have been uploaded.

Drew

[1] http://buildd.debian.org/build.php?pkg=xprint-xprintorg
[2] http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/x/xprint-xprintorg/

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Dependencies to special versions

2002-10-17 Thread Stefan Schimanski
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Hi,

I have a problem with dependencies in some of my packages:

There is a "task" package which just depends on the concrete version  
of the children. It looks like this:

- - debian/contrl ---
Package: foo
Depends: foo-doc (= ${Source-Version}), foo-misc (= ${Source-Version})
...

Package: foo-misc
Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}
...

Package: foo-doc
...
- 

When I have installed an old version, say foo-1.0-1 and its children 
with the same version, foo will depend on foo-doc-1.0-1 and 
foo-misc-1.0-1.

Now I create a new version 1.0-2 of all packages and try to upgrade. 
apt-get will download the files and unpacks them. Before 
configuration of foo-1.0-2 it complains that foo-doc and foo-misc are 
not installed in the newer version. Moreover it can't upgrade them 
because it would break the dependency of the installed foo-1.0-1.

My theory is that this kind of dependencies is insane, because on 
update there is no way to upgrade everything in an atomic action 
which would be necessary to keep all dependencies working all the 
time. Is this correct?

The work around/fix I imagine is to just depend on the package without 
any revision or use something like 

Depends: foo-doc (>= ${Source-Version}), foo-misc (>= 
${Source-Version})

Is this correct or how would I solve a 1-1 relation between several 
packages?

Thnx in advance
  Schimmi
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Re: How to force porters to rebuild a package

2002-10-17 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 03:15:35PM +0200, Bas Zoetekouw wrote:
> Hi Sven!
> 
> You wrote:
> 
> > > Sorry, I did not make myself clear: I did not upload a new
> > > package -- I want to trigger a new build attempt for an old
> > > package of mine now that debhelper has been fixed.
> > 
> > The autobuilder retry old packages that failed on a regular basis, just
> > wait some time for them to do it. Some will try daily, other weekly and
> > other will retry when they have time for it.
> > 
> > You could wait a week or so, and if the situation doesn't improve,
> > contact the autobuilder maintainer.
> > 
> > Alternatively, you could login on a debian paroject machine, and build
> > the program yourself.
> 
> Or just upload a new version.

It may be right in this case as michel said, but in general i don't think
being impatient with the autobuilders warrants the upload of a new
version.

Friendly,

Sven Luther



Debhelper files w/ meta values

2002-10-17 Thread Joel Baker
Is there a way to specify the following in a Debhelper file (such as
.dirs or .links)?

usr/include/$(SHELLVARIABLE)/foo.h

(Note: it doesn't *have* to be a shell variable; just some form of meta
value that I can control when invoking dh_installdirs or dh_installlinks,
etc).

I could use m4, but it gives me the shivers to think about; is there any
straightforward way to do this other than building the file from an m4
source or such?
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Re: How to force porters to rebuild a package

2002-10-17 Thread Stefan Schwandter
Drew Parsons wrote:

> And more to the point [ ;) ], how do I force the autobuilder maintainers to
> actually upload my package once it has been autobuilt?

> The s390 version of xprint-xprintorg has been built for a whole week now[1],
> but it still hasn't been uploaded to the archive[2].  All other
> architectures have been uploaded.

I don't think you will be able to _force_ anybody to anything. But you
could ask the porters (by writing to the mailing list of the particular
port, for example) if too much time has passed (say, some weeks), to
have a look at your problem.


regards, Stefan
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