Re: COVID-19 Biohackathon April 5-11 2020

2020-03-22 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 08:25:02AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
> We now have
> 
>https://blends.debian.org/med/tasks/covid-19

Is there any volunteer who can add more of our packages here?  Steffen
was talking about lots of packages he had in mind to get bcbio ready.
Steffen, can you please add links at least as comments into the covid-19
task.  I'd volunteer to add rough packaging skeletons at least to make
them showing up at our tasks page which is currently pretty weak.

Please always remember: I'm **NOT** a medical expert - I'm weak in
deciding what is helpful and what is not.  We need your support - just
an e-mail here would be helpful!
 
> > > Great, how to do this? Do we spam BTS with user tags, or is there a way to
> > > get all bugs for a list of packages?
> > 
> > We just have it after next cron job at
> > 
> >https://blends.debian.org/med/bugs/
> 
> No idea why the bugs page does not yet exist but I'll check later.

That's fixed.  The whole bugs pages generation was broken and is updated
now again.

> Its now time to feed actual packages into
> 
>   https://salsa.debian.org/blends-team/med/-/blob/master/tasks/covid-19

Please, pretty please give hints here!
 
> We can think about how to speed up package propagation once a package is
> on that page and is really not processed.

I had a private mail exchange with a member of the ftpteam.  He has
confirmed my suspicion that we can rely on them if its needed but
general blaming that new queue processing is an issue is not helpful at
all and I consider it a very good idea if we don't do this.

Kind regards

  Andreas.

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Re: COVID-19 Biohackathon April 5-11 2020

2020-03-22 Thread Nilesh Patra
Hi,

On Sun, 22 Mar 2020, 23:50 Andreas Tille,  wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 08:25:02AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
> > We now have
> >
> >https://blends.debian.org/med/tasks/covid-19
>
> Is there any volunteer who can add more of our packages here?  Steffen
> was talking about lots of packages he had in mind to get bcbio ready.
> Steffen, can you please add links at least as comments into the covid-19
> task.  I'd volunteer to add rough packaging skeletons at least to make
> them showing up at our tasks page which is currently pretty weak.
>
> Please always remember: I'm **NOT** a medical expert - I'm weak in
> deciding what is helpful and what is not.  We need your support - just
> an e-mail here would be helpful!
>

I'm not sure if what I'm suggesting here is useful - but can we consider
packaging bioconda, or its dependencies?
I'm not from medical background, but just wanted to give in a suggestion.
Apologies is that does not sound good.


> > > > Great, how to do this? Do we spam BTS with user tags, or is there a
> way to
> > > > get all bugs for a list of packages?
> > >
> > > We just have it after next cron job at
> > >
> > >https://blends.debian.org/med/bugs/
> >
> > No idea why the bugs page does not yet exist but I'll check later.
>
> That's fixed.  The whole bugs pages generation was broken and is updated
> now again.
>
> > Its now time to feed actual packages into
> >
> >   https://salsa.debian.org/blends-team/med/-/blob/master/tasks/covid-19
>
> Please, pretty please give hints here!
>
> > We can think about how to speed up package propagation once a package is
> > on that page and is really not processed.
>
> I had a private mail exchange with a member of the ftpteam.  He has
> confirmed my suspicion that we can rely on them if its needed but
> general blaming that new queue processing is an issue is not helpful at
> all and I consider it a very good idea if we don't do this.
>

I was just wondering if we can, may be we can upload packages to
fasttrack.debian.net as well?
That would speed up the process.
Again, apologies if that doesn't sound good enough.

Regards,
Nilesh


Re: COVID-19 Biohackathon April 5-11 2020

2020-03-22 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 12:07:09AM +0530, Nilesh Patra wrote:
> 
> I'm not sure if what I'm suggesting here is useful - but can we consider
> packaging bioconda, or its dependencies?

The dependencies of conda (the package manager) are packaged.  Conda is
ITPed (#926416) and its in a quite recent upstream version in salsa.
You can find some discussion here on the list (unfortunately it was not
consequently CCed to the ITP bug).

> I'm not from medical background, but just wanted to give in a suggestion.
> Apologies is that does not sound good.

I think it sounds good (that's why I worked on this issue) but we have
some test issues which are not solved yet.  You are welcome to work on
this, thought.
 
> > I had a private mail exchange with a member of the ftpteam.  He has
> > confirmed my suspicion that we can rely on them if its needed but
> > general blaming that new queue processing is an issue is not helpful at
> > all and I consider it a very good idea if we don't do this.
> >
> 
> I was just wondering if we can, may be we can upload packages to
> fasttrack.debian.net as well?

Well, I'm not really a fan of this.  Our packages are low popcon in any
case so they are not found by many users.  We need extra advertising
power to publish this.  The time we might spent on extra advertising
could be spent to make proper packages and as I tried to express:  While
new queue processing is sometimes slow I was always successful to
convince ftpmaster with good reasons to enable some perfectly acceptable
processing time (24h may be 72h).  Once we have packages in Debian
properly some well established derivatives might profit from our work
and the whole Debian world will be provided with our work.  If you ask
me that's a more sustainable approach than dumping half-ready packages
to some not well known place.

> That would speed up the process.
> Again, apologies if that doesn't sound good enough.

No need to apologise.  Any ideas are worth discussing.

Kind regards

  Andreas.

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Re: Open Source Ventilator Project

2020-03-22 Thread Jun Aruga
On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 10:49 PM Andreas Tille  wrote:
>
> Hi Thomas,
>
> On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 07:47:37PM +0100, Thomas Koch wrote:
> > I found that hackers work on ideas for low-cost-fast-produce ventilators:
> >
> > https://hackaday.com/2020/03/12/ultimate-medical-hackathon-how-fast-can-we-design-and-deploy-an-open-source-ventilator/
> >
> > https://www.mikrocontroller.net/topic/491565
> >
> > https://github.com/jcl5m1/ventilator

Hi Thomas,

I found an open ventilator project this weekend too. I am not sure it
is the same with the one you introduced.
https://opensourceventilator.ie/

I found it in following architcle.

7 open hardware projects working to solve COVID-19
https://opensource.com/article/20/3/open-hardware-covid19

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