Re: Supporting armel/armhf in wheezy-lts
Hello, On Fri, 15 Apr 2016, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > armhf users to run jessie and armel users to be only hobbyists). But here > we have a sponsor willing to sign on a contract saying us « our customers wish > to use Debian 7 OS continuously so that we are planning to sponsor the LTS > efforts for two years. » In the mean time, the sponsor clarified that they will join as "gold sponsor" so they are effectively sponsoring 8 hours of work per month, which seems to be enough to cover for the increased work that those ports might represent. Cheers, -- Raphaël Hertzog ◈ Debian Developer Support Debian LTS: http://www.freexian.com/services/debian-lts.html Learn to master Debian: http://debian-handbook.info/get/
Re: Supporting armel/armhf in wheezy-lts
Hi, On Mon, 18 Apr 2016, Guido Günther wrote: > I assume the level of sponsorship offered is reasonable to support an > arm port? Yes, I believe so. They will join as gold sponsor. > I still wonder how we could would make it simpler to have this > support end up at the right places (i.e. LTS gets the sponsorship while > other teams like release team, security team also have additional work)? What additional work are you referring to specifically? The security and release teams are no longer involved in the LTS part of the work. That said if other teams believe that they have extra-work to support the LTS initiative, I'm entirely open to the idea of funding persons outside of the LTS team provided that they work benefit the LTS project and provided that they follow the same rules of transparency and accountability. With possibly extra-caution like a check with other members on their team that none opposes to the paid work and that nobody else would want to do the same work in their free time. > It seems the raspberry pi foundation removed the wheezy based raspbian > from the download page but I wonder if we should reach out to them since > I assume there are lots of arm based devices still running wheezy and > they would certainly benefit from arm support (although they have to > recompile). Does anybody have any contacts there? What would you ask to the raspberry pi foundation? Cheers, -- Raphaël Hertzog ◈ Debian Developer Support Debian LTS: http://www.freexian.com/services/debian-lts.html Learn to master Debian: http://debian-handbook.info/get/
Re: Supporting armel/armhf in wheezy-lts
Am 18.04.2016 um 08:45 schrieb Guido Günther: [...] > I'm all for it (although it's easy to say for me since the most burden > will probably be on the kernel team) and having it as experimental with > a single sponsor seems sensible. +1 from my side too. I guess I'm one of those armel hobbyists and I could test the software even on real hardware. > I assume the level of sponsorship offered is reasonable to support an > arm port? I still wonder how we could would make it simpler to have this > support end up at the right places (i.e. LTS gets the sponsorship while > other teams like release team, security team also have additional work)? I also think that the opinions of the kernel team / Ben are crucial if we want to support ARM in the future. Otherwise I would expect that supporting ARM scales pretty well and that it mainly requires more time for testing the software. Speaking of the security team and release team, what about the ftp team and the upcoming switch to Wheezy-LTS. Raphaël wrote [1] that the switch would be easy according to one of the ftp masters. Is there anything that we should take care of / coordinate with the ftp team before April, 26th? Regards, Markus [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-lts/2016/02/msg00130.html signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Supporting armel/armhf in wheezy-lts
On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 09:44:43AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, 18 Apr 2016, Guido Günther wrote: > > I assume the level of sponsorship offered is reasonable to support an > > arm port? > > Yes, I believe so. They will join as gold sponsor. > > > I still wonder how we could would make it simpler to have this > > support end up at the right places (i.e. LTS gets the sponsorship while > > other teams like release team, security team also have additional work)? > > What additional work are you referring to specifically? > > The security and release teams are no longer involved in the LTS part of > the work. > > That said if other teams believe that they have extra-work to support > the LTS initiative, I'm entirely open to the idea of funding persons > outside of the LTS team provided that they work benefit the LTS project > and provided that they follow the same rules of transparency and > accountability. With possibly extra-caution like a check with > other members on their team that none opposes to the paid work and > that nobody else would want to do the same work in their free time. We're fixing quiet some issues in Wheezy either via the security team or the release team. All of the work is reviewed by members of these teams. This is work that might not have happened if we weren't to support Wheezy. Also the switch from wheezy on security master will probably involve ftpmaster / security team time. > > > It seems the raspberry pi foundation removed the wheezy based raspbian > > from the download page but I wonder if we should reach out to them since > > I assume there are lots of arm based devices still running wheezy and > > they would certainly benefit from arm support (although they have to > > recompile). Does anybody have any contacts there? > > What would you ask to the raspberry pi foundation? If they want to join as sponsors. Cheers, -- Guido
