Odd install package selection
Hi, I'm using live-build 3.0.5 on squeeze. We have a custom install CD built with debian-cd. I want to make a hybrid live/install CD, but can't get the install package list to match our debian-cd install CDs package list? I'm baffled that there's as much difference as there is. For instance this gets included: binary/pool/main/e/emdebian-archive-keyring/emdebian-archive-keyring-udeb_2.0.3_all.udeb What could be causing live-build to add packages that are not a dependency of the list of packages I specify? Additional info: $ find . . ./config ./config/archives ./config/apt ./config/apt/preferences ./config/debian-installer ./config/preseed ./config/includes.binary ./config/includes.binary/isolinux ./config/includes.binary/isolinux/splash.png ./config/includes.binary/idms-linux.gpg ./config/includes.binary/install ./config/includes.binary/install/initrd.gz ./config/includes.binary/install/vmlinuz ./config/packages.chroot ./config/package-lists ./config/package-lists/idms.list.binary ./config/package-lists/rescue.list.chroot ./config/package-lists/idms.list.chroot ./config/package-lists/live.list.chroot ./config/includes.debian-installer ./config/includes.chroot ./config/includes.chroot/etc ./config/includes.chroot/etc/issue.net ./config/includes.chroot/etc/profile.d ./config/includes.chroot/etc/profile.d/idms-prompt.sh ./config/hooks ./config/hooks/customize.binary ./config/packages.binary ./config/rootfs ./config/includes ./config/packages ./auto ./auto/clean ./auto/config ./auto/build ./.gitignore $ cat config/package-lists/idms.list.binary apache2 arping attr bash-completion bcrelay bridge-utils bzip2 ebtables ethtool iproute iptables iptraf less lsb-release lsof mysql-client mysql-server openssh-server php5 postfix ppp pptpd rsync samba screen shorewall smbclient strace sudo sysstat tcpdump telnet vim -- Robert Spencer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-live-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51cadd55.2010...@lbsd.net
Bug: config/apt/preferences ignored
Hi, Before I submit this to the bug tracking system. Is anyone else able to replicate this? With live-build 3.0.5-1 on squeeze config/apt/preferences is ignored. config/apt/preferences: Package: cron Pin: version * Pin-Priority: -1 Package: logrotate Pin: version * Pin-Priority: -1 Package: rsyslog Pin: version * Pin-Priority: -1 cron, logrotate and rsyslog still get installed. I see there's an old bug for apt, but not sure it still has reference. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=317186 -- Robert Spencer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-live-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/sig.194417ee91.52132809.1080...@lbsd.net
Re: Bug: config/apt/preferences ignored
On 20/08/2013 11:35, Daniel Baumann wrote: On 08/20/2013 10:25 AM, Robert Spencer wrote: With live-build 3.0.5-1 on squeeze config/apt/preferences is ignored. there are two bugs here, one is apt (which was fixed long time ago), and the other one is the incomplete handling of the preferences file in some cases in live-build (fixed some time ago in live-build 4.x). Thank you. I'll investigate live-build 4. -- Robert Spencer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-live-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/sig.1944f1b223.521343e6.5030...@lbsd.net
Re: Bug: config/apt/preferences ignored
On 20/08/2013 11:59, Ben Armstrong wrote: On 20/08/13 05:25 AM, Robert Spencer wrote: With live-build 3.0.5-1 on squeeze config/apt/preferences is ignored. On squeeze? May I ask why you're still running a release that is nearly EOL? It's highly recommended you upgrade to wheezy as very soon you'll no longer be supported. For that reason, and the others Daniel provided, there's no point in filing a bug. Most of our customers are still on squeeze and there's SLA's in place to support them. I can only upgrade to wheezy on the build system once I have time and proof that it won't break our squeeze builds (it currently builds for squeeze and wheezy). Also, you did not furnish proof that config/apt/preferences is ignored ... config/apt/preferences: Package: cron Pin: version * Pin-Priority: -1 Package: logrotate Pin: version * Pin-Priority: -1 Package: rsyslog Pin: version * Pin-Priority: -1 cron, logrotate and rsyslog still get installed. No, that is not proof. Proof would be some apt-cache policy output at the time those get installed to show that there are no -1 pin priorities for these packages. Okay, but in my defense I wasn't filing a bug. I wanted confirmation whether I'd found one. cron: Installed: 3.0pl1-124 Candidate: 3.0pl1-124 Package pin: 3.0pl1-124 Version table: *** 3.0pl1-124 -1 500 http://cdn.idms-linux.org/debian/ wheezy/main amd64 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status rsyslog and logrotate are also "-1". So not a bug, just extremely irritating. Pinning something -1 only prevents installation if nothing directly depends on or installs these. For example: hypothetical package 'foo' has Depends: cron and 'foo' is in on of your package lists. cron will still be installed. Yes, I understand that. OR: 'cron' is actually in one of your package lists. It's not. I suspect there's some basic system that live-build always sets up and that's installing cron, logrotate and rsyslog. According to aptitude: logrotate depends on cron. rsyslog recommends logrotate. cron suggests logrotate. Non are marked as being automatically installed. There are no other dependencies on those packages. Please always include complete output of commands demonstrating the problem when you report problems. Good advice. Thanks. For now I have a chroot hook that runs: update-rc.d -f cron remove So at least cron doesn't run. What would you say is the right way to get rid of packages you don't want installed? -- Robert Spencer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-live-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/sig.1944af8d61.5213677d.1060...@lbsd.net
Re: Bug: config/apt/preferences ignored
On 20/08/2013 15:23, Ben Armstrong wrote: On 08/20/2013 09:56 AM, Robert Spencer wrote: Okay, but in my defense I wasn't filing a bug. I wanted confirmation whether I'd found one. cron: Installed: 3.0pl1-124 Candidate: 3.0pl1-124 Package pin: 3.0pl1-124 Version table: *** 3.0pl1-124 -1 500 http://cdn.idms-linux.org/debian/ wheezy/main amd64 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status rsyslog and logrotate are also "-1". So not a bug, just extremely irritating. OK. So then we look at why it's installed. 'aptitude why' could illuminate. Nice. Didn't know that one. According to aptitude: logrotate depends on cron. rsyslog recommends logrotate. cron suggests logrotate. Non are marked as being automatically installed. There are no other dependencies on those packages. All of them are priority "important". This is why it's important to examine your build log before reporting. If you had done that, you would see they are all installed in the bootstrap phase, so none of your apt pinning has any affect on that. Okay. Noted. What would you say is the right way to get rid of packages you don't want installed? It depends on where they are included. In this specific case, exclude them from your bootstrap. Use DEBOOTSTRAP_OPTIONS environment variable; see debootstrap(8) man page for what can go in here, specifically the --exclude option in your case. This is an unpublished option obeyed by /usr/lib/live/build/scripts/bootstrap_debootstrap. Be aware: a) unpublished options like this are subject to change without notice in future versions; they go in the environment of your build script, not in the live config itself (hint: modify the environment of the build in auto/build) b) you need to use the default --bootstrap debootstrap option (if you didn't change this from the default, there's nothing to do here :) c) because the problem is in the bootstrap, make sure you start from a completely clean build tree (i.e. 'lb clean --purge') so the bootstrap will be rebuilt Thank you. It's all working nicely now. -- Robert Spencer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-live-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/sig.1945f77ab6.5214e886.3070...@lbsd.net
Re: debian-live cdimages too large for CD-ROM?
Hi, It's been years since most Desktop Live images fit on a CD. If you're totally stuck with CDs and can't use a DVD, then the following is the only option: <http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/7.6.0-live/i386/iso-hybrid/debian-live-7.6.0-i386-standard.iso> -- Robert Spencer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-live-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/sig.13350f5429.5416e9e2.2060...@lbsd.net
