Bug#812358: debian-live: Please add gparted

2016-01-22 Thread Christian Hammers
Package: debian-live
Version: 8.2.0-amd64-xfce-desktop
Severity: wishlist

Hello

Please add "gparted" to the Debian Live CD.

Live CDs are greate to rescue broken systems or to shrink/enlarge
root file systems etc. In such cases the graphical approach of gparted
which automatically resizes the filesystem with the partition is much
more error safe than the CLI alternatives fdisk or parted. That's
especially the case for GPT and LVM which are still quite new to some
people.

The installed size of gparted and its dependency libparted-fs-resize0
would just be 7 MB.

Best Regards,

-christian-


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Bug#812358: debian-live: Please add gparted

2016-01-22 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 22/01/16 12:46 PM, Christian Hammers wrote:
> Package: debian-live
> Version: 8.2.0-amd64-xfce-desktop
> Severity: wishlist
>
> Hello
>
> Please add "gparted" to the Debian Live CD.
>
> Live CDs are greate to rescue broken systems or to shrink/enlarge
> root file systems etc. In such cases the graphical approach of gparted
> which automatically resizes the filesystem with the partition is much
> more error safe than the CLI alternatives fdisk or parted. That's
> especially the case for GPT and LVM which are still quite new to some
> people.
>
> The installed size of gparted and its dependency libparted-fs-resize0
> would just be 7 MB.
>

Our desktop live images only contain the desktop, as it would be
installed by the Debian Installer. While arguably, many different tools
would be useful on a live utility disk, those are not things that
normally come with a Debian desktop, so are not included.

The 'rescue' flavour used to exist and contained a number of tools
designed for rescuing systems. However, that did not contain any
desktop. Many excellent rescue images do exist that are produced by
third parties and which would contain both a desktop and gparted. For
Debian to have its own 'official' rescue image would require someone to
do the work of looking after compiling a list of 'essential (possibly
with GUI) rescue tools' to go on the image. So far, despite my repeated
calls for help with this, nobody has stepped forward to do the work.

Regards,
Ben



Bug#812358: debian-live: Please add gparted

2016-01-22 Thread Don Raikes
Ben,

I would consider taking on the task of maintaining the necessary files for a 
rescue image.

I haven't looked into what is involved, but if you can point me to some docs I 
will take a look and see if it will fit with my time constraints.

Sincerely,
Donald

-Original Message-
From: Ben Armstrong [mailto:sy...@sanctuary.nslug.ns.ca] 
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 10:05 AM
To: Christian Hammers; 812...@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Bug#812358: debian-live: Please add gparted

On 22/01/16 12:46 PM, Christian Hammers wrote:
> Package: debian-live
> Version: 8.2.0-amd64-xfce-desktop
> Severity: wishlist
>
> Hello
>
> Please add "gparted" to the Debian Live CD.
>
> Live CDs are greate to rescue broken systems or to shrink/enlarge root 
> file systems etc. In such cases the graphical approach of gparted 
> which automatically resizes the filesystem with the partition is much 
> more error safe than the CLI alternatives fdisk or parted. That's 
> especially the case for GPT and LVM which are still quite new to some 
> people.
>
> The installed size of gparted and its dependency libparted-fs-resize0 
> would just be 7 MB.
>

Our desktop live images only contain the desktop, as it would be installed by 
the Debian Installer. While arguably, many different tools would be useful on a 
live utility disk, those are not things that normally come with a Debian 
desktop, so are not included.

The 'rescue' flavour used to exist and contained a number of tools designed for 
rescuing systems. However, that did not contain any desktop. Many excellent 
rescue images do exist that are produced by third parties and which would 
contain both a desktop and gparted. For Debian to have its own 'official' 
rescue image would require someone to do the work of looking after compiling a 
list of 'essential (possibly with GUI) rescue tools' to go on the image. So 
far, despite my repeated calls for help with this, nobody has stepped forward 
to do the work.

Regards,
Ben



Bug#812358: debian-live: Please add gparted

2016-01-22 Thread Devin Trotter
Donald - I will help you with this as I can if you're willing to take the lead.

-Original Message-
From: Don Raikes [mailto:don.rai...@oracle.com]
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 11:21 AM
To: Ben Armstrong ; 812...@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Bug#812358: debian-live: Please add gparted

Ben,

I would consider taking on the task of maintaining the necessary files for a 
rescue image.

I haven't looked into what is involved, but if you can point me to some docs I 
will take a look and see if it will fit with my time constraints.

Sincerely,
Donald

-Original Message-
From: Ben Armstrong [mailto:sy...@sanctuary.nslug.ns.ca]
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 10:05 AM
To: Christian Hammers; 812...@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Bug#812358: debian-live: Please add gparted

On 22/01/16 12:46 PM, Christian Hammers wrote:
> Package: debian-live
> Version: 8.2.0-amd64-xfce-desktop
> Severity: wishlist
>
> Hello
>
> Please add "gparted" to the Debian Live CD.
>
> Live CDs are greate to rescue broken systems or to shrink/enlarge root
> file systems etc. In such cases the graphical approach of gparted
> which automatically resizes the filesystem with the partition is much
> more error safe than the CLI alternatives fdisk or parted. That's
> especially the case for GPT and LVM which are still quite new to some
> people.
>
> The installed size of gparted and its dependency libparted-fs-resize0
> would just be 7 MB.
>

Our desktop live images only contain the desktop, as it would be installed by 
the Debian Installer. While arguably, many different tools would be useful on a 
live utility disk, those are not things that normally come with a Debian 
desktop, so are not included.

The 'rescue' flavour used to exist and contained a number of tools designed for 
rescuing systems. However, that did not contain any desktop. Many excellent 
rescue images do exist that are produced by third parties and which would 
contain both a desktop and gparted. For Debian to have its own 'official' 
rescue image would require someone to do the work of looking after compiling a 
list of 'essential (possibly with GUI) rescue tools' to go on the image. So 
far, despite my repeated calls for help with this, nobody has stepped forward 
to do the work.

Regards,
Ben




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Bug#812358: debian-live: Please add gparted

2016-01-22 Thread Don Raikes
Hi,

I am willing to take the lead on resurrecting debian-live-rescue, but according 
to this webpage:
http://syn.theti.ca/2015/06/23/debian-live-rescue-needs-some-love/comment-page-1/#comment-5665

I should start by trying to build a rescue image from the existing live-image 
sources.

However, when I go to https://github.com/debian-live/live-images.git I cannot 
find a branch that contains the old rescue build configuration.

Is this configuration laying around somewhere I can use as a starting point?

-Original Message-
From: Devin Trotter [mailto:devin.trot...@csiweb.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 12:16 PM
To: Don Raikes; 812...@bugs.debian.org; Ben Armstrong
Subject: RE: Bug#812358: debian-live: Please add gparted

Donald - I will help you with this as I can if you're willing to take the lead.

-Original Message-
From: Don Raikes [mailto:don.rai...@oracle.com]
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 11:21 AM
To: Ben Armstrong ; 812...@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Bug#812358: debian-live: Please add gparted

Ben,

I would consider taking on the task of maintaining the necessary files for a 
rescue image.

I haven't looked into what is involved, but if you can point me to some docs I 
will take a look and see if it will fit with my time constraints.

Sincerely,
Donald

-Original Message-
From: Ben Armstrong [mailto:sy...@sanctuary.nslug.ns.ca]
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 10:05 AM
To: Christian Hammers; 812...@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Bug#812358: debian-live: Please add gparted

On 22/01/16 12:46 PM, Christian Hammers wrote:
> Package: debian-live
> Version: 8.2.0-amd64-xfce-desktop
> Severity: wishlist
>
> Hello
>
> Please add "gparted" to the Debian Live CD.
>
> Live CDs are greate to rescue broken systems or to shrink/enlarge root 
> file systems etc. In such cases the graphical approach of gparted 
> which automatically resizes the filesystem with the partition is much 
> more error safe than the CLI alternatives fdisk or parted. That's 
> especially the case for GPT and LVM which are still quite new to some 
> people.
>
> The installed size of gparted and its dependency libparted-fs-resize0 
> would just be 7 MB.
>

Our desktop live images only contain the desktop, as it would be installed by 
the Debian Installer. While arguably, many different tools would be useful on a 
live utility disk, those are not things that normally come with a Debian 
desktop, so are not included.

The 'rescue' flavour used to exist and contained a number of tools designed for 
rescuing systems. However, that did not contain any desktop. Many excellent 
rescue images do exist that are produced by third parties and which would 
contain both a desktop and gparted. For Debian to have its own 'official' 
rescue image would require someone to do the work of looking after compiling a 
list of 'essential (possibly with GUI) rescue tools' to go on the image. So 
far, despite my repeated calls for help with this, nobody has stepped forward 
to do the work.

Regards,
Ben




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Bug#812358: debian-live: Please add gparted

2016-01-22 Thread Daniel Reichelt
Hi Don,

> However, when I go to https://github.com/debian-live/live-images.git I cannot 
> find a branch that contains the old rescue build configuration.

said repository is quite correct, however the files got removed from the
tree by [1].


> Is this configuration laying around somewhere I can use as a starting point?

The package lists are available until [2]

Cheers
Daniel



[1]
https://github.com/debian-live/live-images/commit/4c1911124c2ae128312ae6d256c8322d944d258f

[2]
https://github.com/debian-live/live-images/tree/3de5ad45b9fd2d3a6874bb4757288299a3e3b01a/images/rescue/config/package-lists



Bug#812358: debian-live: Please add gparted

2016-01-22 Thread adrian15

El 22/01/16 a las 23:47, Don Raikes escribió:

Hi,

I am willing to take the lead on resurrecting debian-live-rescue, but according 
to this webpage:
http://syn.theti.ca/2015/06/23/debian-live-rescue-needs-some-love/comment-page-1/#comment-5665

I should start by trying to build a rescue image from the existing live-image 
sources.

However, when I go to https://github.com/debian-live/live-images.git I cannot 
find a branch that contains the old rescue build configuration.

Is this configuration laying around somewhere I can use as a starting point?


Take a look at:

https://lists.debian.org/debian-live/2014/08/msg00081.html

https://adrian15sgd.wordpress.com/2015/11/13/about-rescue-tools-in-gnulinux-systems-in-2014-draft/ 
(Find the configuration link you want there. ;) )


https://lists.debian.org/debian-live/2015/11/msg00075.html

On one night we discussed in #debian-live irc about this rescue image / 
rescue blend and well. I leave you some bits here:



1) There was some discussion about the original dba plans on submitting 
a tasksel-rescue package versus what it's currently used:


* task-rescue (task-* is official tasks maintained by the d-i team).
* blendname-tasks (Already used in blends for their specific stuff.)

What I mean is that my article begins with me trying to make a 
tasksel-rescue package and it turns out that this package name not even 
exists.


2) Ben Armstrong wanted to reuse some of the packages I used on 
Rescatux. I warned him that Rescatux was graphical oriented and that I 
left out some cli tools from it. Some sysadmins might consider using 
grml instead of Rescatux for cli purposes just for that.



adrian15
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