Bug#595463: including debian-live stuff in release notes

[Daniel Baumann]

Package: release-notes
Owner: debian-live@lists.debian.org

the release notes should more prominently state the existence of live
images than it was the case with lenny. also, some notes about dropping
usb-hdd images in the future and more should be included as well.

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Bug#595463: including debian-live stuff in release notes

[richard newton]

On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 12:02 AM, Daniel Baumann  wrote:

> Package: release-notes
> Owner: debian-live@lists.debian.org
>
> the release notes should more prominently state the existence of live
> images than it was the case with lenny. also, some notes about dropping
> usb-hdd images in the future and more should be included as well.
>

Please don't drop usb-hdd images until you can use persistence with the
hybrid image. Or tell me how to get persistence to work with the hybid
image-I could not get it to work the last time I tried. Thanks and keep up
the good work.

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Bug#595463: including debian-live stuff in release notes

[Daniel Baumann]

On 09/04/2010 03:41 PM, richard newton wrote:
> Please don't drop usb-hdd images until you can use persistence with the
> hybrid image.

usb-hdd images are *deprecated*, not dropped.

we still have them for squeeze but inted to drop them for wheezy (and
hope to fix the iso-hybrid issues by then).

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Re: Upcoming lenny point release

[Adam D. Barratt]

On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 21:04 +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
> The next Lenny point release (5.0.6) is scheduled for Saturday,
> September 4th.

The archive side of the point release has now finished.  An extra mirror
push is currently running, so the updates should start appearing on
mirrors within the next couple of hours.

Regards,

Adam


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Unicode Character key-in problem

[Thomas Vazhappilly]

Hi..!

I am a migrant from MS Windoz to Gnu/Linux. Only one problem where I stuck
is, I cannot key in some characters in UTF-8 such as "CURRENCY SIGN" as in
typing MS Windoz. In MSW I can get the character by holding the alt key and
type 0164 and on release the alt key I get the  "CURRENCY SIGN" in the
editor.

Is there a ditto input method in Debian Gnu/Linux? Somebody help.

Thanks in advance.

Re: Upcoming lenny point release

[Daniel Baumann]

On 09/04/2010 08:04 PM, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
> The archive side of the point release has now finished.  An extra mirror
> push is currently running, so the updates should start appearing on
> mirrors within the next couple of hours.

will start building 5.0.6 soon then, thanks.

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Re: Unicode Character key-in problem

[Daniel Baumann]

On 09/04/2010 08:30 PM, Thomas Vazhappilly wrote:
> Is there a ditto input method in Debian Gnu/Linux?

personally, i have no idea.

however, since this this is not live related, you better ask on
debian-u...@lists.debian.org which is a generic user support list.

Regards,
Daniel

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Hot to Specify Squeeze?

[James Van Scoy]

OK, my first attempt to create a live cd was successful. I ended up with 
a basic Lenny live cd that boots to a command line.


BUT, I just can't find out how to make the live cd for Squeeze (or Sid). 
What file do I edit to specify the dist that I want to use?


I know that for my existing Debian installation, the specifications for 
the package sources to use are in /etc/apt/sources.list. Where is this 
information for building a live cd?


Thanks, Jim



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Re: Hot to Specify Squeeze?

[Rob Owens]

On Sat, Sep 04, 2010 at 01:36:24PM -0600, James Van Scoy wrote:
> OK, my first attempt to create a live cd was successful. I ended up with  
> a basic Lenny live cd that boots to a command line.
>
> BUT, I just can't find out how to make the live cd for Squeeze (or Sid).  
> What file do I edit to specify the dist that I want to use?
>
> I know that for my existing Debian installation, the specifications for  
> the package sources to use are in /etc/apt/sources.list. Where is this  
> information for building a live cd?
>
When you run lh config, use the switch:  --distribution squeeze


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Re: Hot to Specify Squeeze?

[Daniel Baumann]

On 09/04/2010 10:12 PM, Rob Owens wrote:
> When you run lh config, use the switch:  --distribution squeeze

be warned that 'lh config -d lenny && lh config -d squeeze' and 'lh
config -d squeeze' are not the same, there are some distribution
dependent defaults, so always, when you switch the distribution,
repopulate the whole config tree in a new directory.

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Upcoming Leny release question

[Mgr. Janusz Chmiel]

Dear core developers,

Please, would somebody of us write me, which version of Gnome desktop 
environment will be included in Debian Lenny latest version?

Can i use live-magic for building latest Debian leny myself by specifiing other 
mirrors in The right live-magic dialog window? Or this is complex task and only 
experienced Debian developer can build his .iso image successfully. 
Thanks MR Cris, live-magic can be used for generating all included variants of 
Debian distro without errors and The process can run very smoothly. 

Thank You very much for YOurs answers.

With kindness regards.

Janusz Chmiel

Re: Upcoming Leny release question

[Daniel Baumann]

On 09/04/2010 11:48 PM, Mgr. Janusz Chmiel wrote:
> Please, would somebody of us write me, which version of Gnome
> desktop environment will be included in Debian Lenny latest version?

the same as the lenny release always had, the upcoming lenny release is
just a point release.

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Valuable pleasment for C language developers

[Mgr. Janusz Chmiel]

Dear core developers of Debian live,

I would like to very valuably please somebody of us, if there is some 
experienced C language developer among us. My pleasment is related to one 
screen reader written in C language. It is old screen reader, named Gnopernicus.
I know, that The source code of this program have been developed for The 
components of Gnome version dated to The year 2005 or 2004. But this screen 
reader is having very strong potential among todays awailable at-spi compatible 
screen readers.
C language code is much more faster and if for example live-magic is being 
generating .iso image for me, i can not observe The process like a sighted 
person if Python based screen reader is running. I know, that Orca is also 
using some C language code but most of The code is written in Python. This is 
not bad in general, but til The time, if You will try to run many Python 
applications at The same time and Orca or also SUE will try to get some crucial 
information from them.
Yes, i know, that GNome is also coded by using Python and C language, that 
GNome is also not programmed in C language at all.
And that Python is made by using C language too.
Normal user, who is not being forced to use at-spi compatible assistive 
technology will never be motivated to explore such programmers thinks. Because 
user will not notice any magnificant differences while using several Python 
applications, which are communicating between each other.

So my pleasment is as follows:

1: Source code of Gnopernicus screen reader is using methods for accessing 
GNomespeech library. Unfortunately, The Gnomespeech library is much more 
different even in Gnome included with Debian Lenny. The difference between 
calls and accessing this library by using C language have been very probably 
dramatically changed.
The problem is, that if Espeak is speaking and user is using Gnopernicus and if 
user is pressing some key stroke, while Espeak is still speaking, it will cause 
The crash.
Would somebody of us try to analyse, which parts of C language source code ofr 
Gnopernicus would had to be modified?

I can not debug those thinks myself. Because triing to use more than one at-spi 
compatible assistive technology at The same time is causing severe Gnome 
components crashes.¨
I know, that Gnome developers even included complete IDE for developing and 
debugging C language applications.

Thank You very, very much for any answer from us.

The source code of Gnopernicus is very well documented but it is not easy 
program.

Re: Valuable pleasment for C language developers

[Daniel Baumann]

On 09/04/2010 11:59 PM, Mgr. Janusz Chmiel wrote:
> if there is some experienced C language developer among us [...] related
> to [...] Gnopernicus.

this is not even remotely related to -live, please ask on another list,
e.g. debian-u...@lists.debian.org.

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Re: Unicode Character key-in problem

[tomas]

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On Sat, Sep 04, 2010 at 08:49:06PM +0200, Daniel Baumann wrote:
> On 09/04/2010 08:30 PM, Thomas Vazhappilly wrote:
> > Is there a ditto input method in Debian Gnu/Linux?
> 
> personally, i have no idea.

Granted it's off-topic for this list, but since the question is there,
at least I'll try a half-answer: in Linux it's not considered the job of
the operating system, but of a layer quite further above than that.
Typically, it's something the desktop environment takes care of.

That said, there is an input method that luckily is taking precedence in
desktop environments: press shift+ctrl+u, then the hexadecimal code for
your Unicode character (e.g. 2203 for ∃ -- finish off with space or
something).

See  (a freat resource,
albeit not the most modern) or 

HTH
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