Re: GPL photographies, eg for backround
Le lundi 29 décembre 2008 à 10:44 -0800, Ken Arromdee a écrit : > On Mon, 29 Dec 2008, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > More precisely: if you are the copyright owner, you can publish it in > > whatever format you like, and if under a free license (e.g. the GPL), it > > will be acceptable for Debian. > > Say what? > > If you GPL a program and don't provide source code Indeed, but we are not talking of a program but of pictures here. -- .''`. : :' : We are debian.org. Lower your prices, surrender your code. `. `' We will add your hardware and software distinctiveness to `-our own. Resistance is futile. signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée
Re: GPL photographies, eg for backround
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 15:33:48 +0100 Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le lundi 29 décembre 2008 à 10:44 -0800, Ken Arromdee a écrit : [...] > > If you GPL a program and don't provide source code > > Indeed, but we are not talking of a program but of pictures here. I am convinced that this distinction is (almost) irrelevant from the GPL point of view. GNU GPL v2, Section 0. states, in part: |0. This License applies to any program or other work which contains ^ | a notice placed by the copyright holder saying it may be distributed | under the terms of this General Public License. The "Program", below, | refers to any such program or work ^^^ GNU GPL v3, Section 0. includes the following definition: | "The Program" refers to any copyrightable work licensed under this ^^ | License. Disclaimers, as usual: IANAL, TINLA, IANADD, TINASOTODP. -- On some search engines, searching for my nickname AND "nano-documents" may lead you to my website... . Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgp3C28biBezE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: GPL photographies, eg for backround
Le mercredi 31 décembre 2008 à 15:50 +0100, Francesco Poli a écrit : > > Indeed, but we are not talking of a program but of pictures here. > > I am convinced that this distinction is (almost) irrelevant from the > GPL point of view. The relevance comes from the fact that pictures can be their own source code, regardless of the format. -- .''`. : :' : We are debian.org. Lower your prices, surrender your code. `. `' We will add your hardware and software distinctiveness to `-our own. Resistance is futile. signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée
Re: GPL photographies, eg for backround
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 17:09:53 +0100 Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le mercredi 31 décembre 2008 à 15:50 +0100, Francesco Poli a écrit : > > > Indeed, but we are not talking of a program but of pictures here. > > > > I am convinced that this distinction is (almost) irrelevant from the > > GPL point of view. > > The relevance comes from the fact that pictures can be their own source > code, regardless of the format. Indeed, pictures *can* be distributed in a form that is source and, at the same time, the final form (for most uses). The same holds for programs (think about interpretable scripts, for instance). Anyway, please recall the sentence (by Ken Arromdee) you were replying to: "If you GPL a program and don't provide source code [...]" If you distribute a GPL'ed program (or picture, or document, or whatever) and don't provide source code, then you are distributing some form other than source. Hence, we were *not* talking about cases were the distributed form is (also) source... Going back one further step, the sentence (by you) Ken was replying to was: "if you are the copyright owner, you can publish it in whatever format you like, and if under a free license (e.g. the GPL), it will be acceptable for Debian." You seem to think that programs have a clear-cut source/object distinction, while pictures are always source whatever form they are in. If this is what you think about pictures, then I disagree, since only the preferred form for making modifications to the work is defined (at least by the GNU GPL) as "source code": pictures, as well as other copyrightable works, may be converted into various different formats, some of which won't be preferred for making further modifications. On the other hand, if you meant something else with the above-quoted sentence, could you please clarify? Thanks in advance. -- On some search engines, searching for my nickname AND "nano-documents" may lead you to my website... . Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgp7exsIDmeeq.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: GPL photographies, eg for backround
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > > More precisely: if you are the copyright owner, you can publish it in > > > whatever format you like, and if under a free license (e.g. the GPL), it > > > will be acceptable for Debian. > > Say what? > > If you GPL a program and don't provide source code > Indeed, but we are not talking of a program but of pictures here. The same applies if you don't provide the source code for the picture. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-legal-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
