Re: Microcode license [#3]

2001-06-07 Thread Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS
Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On the other hand, if we can't modify, what purpose is served
> by us distributing it at all? It's available from the Intel
> website, right? It's just a file that gets installed by the loader,
> right? There's no integration issue.

There are two advantages to having it on a CD. Firstly, convenience,
particularly for people with bad Internet connections. Secondly,
repeatability: people can record that they installed the entire
operating system from a particular CD, rather than have to worry about
Intel updating its web site so that the same procedure might not work
next time.

Edmund



Re: Microcode license [#3]

2001-06-07 Thread Steve Greenland
On 01-Jun-01, 16:02 (CDT), Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> [No one (other than Thomas Bushnell) is advocating that the microcode
> be distributed under the DFSG.]

Well, I think I would *advocate* that it be distributed under the
DFSG. I suspect that the benefits of doing so are perhaps less, in that
fewer people would be able to take advantage, but one of the benefits of
open source is the ability to learn from other people. I bet there are
many people out there who would very much like to learn how Intel writes
microcode for their chips. Of course, some of those people work for AMD.  :-)

On the other hand, if we can't modify, what purpose is served
by us distributing it at all? It's available from the Intel
website, right? It's just a file that gets installed by the loader,
right? There's no integration issue.

Steve



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Re: Microcode license [#3]

2001-06-07 Thread Steve Greenland
On 01-Jun-01, 04:41 (CDT), Giacomo Catenazzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> Anthony Towns wrote:
> > Note that Intel's claims as to what you can and can't do with the
> > microcode aren't necessarily legally binding.
> 
> I don't undertand this sentence. 

The license cannot forbid actions that are specifically allowed by
copyright law, such as reverse-engineering (in some countries).

Steve

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