Woody vs Sarge vs debian variants on older equipment
Hi folks... I just purchased a 570E thinkpad (PIII 500MHz) last week. As well as a Cisco 340 Aironet wireless card. I'm hoping to install linux on it and am trying to do as much homework as I can before they get here. I've searched a lot on the topic of installing debian on the 570E and have found some good information, but it's a little patchy and/or dated. I've found one post saying that SimplyMepis is the way to go, and then another post saying that Ubuntu is *really* the way to go... stating that the Cisco 340 wireless card can be automatically detected and installed. I've run woody on a server at home for years now and have enjoyed just using it. I've read, however, that if I'm going to go with straight debian on a laptop - it's better to go with Sarge. I'm pretty confused now. Antoher thing I'm not sure about is if I should go with kernel 2.4 or 2.6. I don't plan on using any fancy peripherals, esp since the laptop doesn't have usb 2.0, only 1.1. Any advice would be much appreciated. Thanks. ps. And I already know about not installing i2c or lmsensors when configuring the kernel. (although I do wonder if this is only for 2.4 or for 2.6 as well.)
Re: Woody vs Sarge vs debian variants on older equipment
> The main difference is in how the kernel supports your hardware. The Woody > installer uses a fairly ancient kernel which may not support your > hardware properly and cause problems during the installation. > The RC3 version of the installer for Sarge [1] has a choice of either the > 2.4.27 or 2.6.8 kernel (see Fx helpscreens) and much better hardware > detection (and is more user friendly in general). > > What kernel you should go with depends entirely on your hardware. Some > systems seem better supported by 2.4.27, others by 2.6.8. > Some others have acpi problems with 2.6.8 and are happier with the > 2.6.10/11 kernels available in unstable, although you can only upgrade to > those after installation. > > Ubuntu uses basically the same installer as Debian Sarge, but with a > 2.6.10 kernel and therefore works better in some cases. > Thanks for the advice. Since my equipment is pretty old (circa 1999), I will probably go with kernel 2.4. Some of the howto's I'm finding on the internet discuss using even kernel 2.2 with Redhat 7.1. I felt shaky about going with just debian, but after seeing the Raj Kombiyil's howto at http://modzer0.cs.uaf.edu/~wanderlust/wireless.htm, I feel much more confident. I haven't used the debian installer ever since I always install on no frills boxes, which is why I'm a little nervous about installing onto a laptop and wireless card. But actually, it looks like its not too bad. My plan is to go with Sarge and try to use the installer. If everything works but the wireless card, I'll just install that manually using the howto I found above. But if no reasonable functionality is obtained (which I highly doubt), I just might try Ubuntu. Thanks
Re: XF86Config-4 on thinkpad 570 ("pipe" sign doesnt work)
On 5/22/05, Kfir Lavi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Saturday 21 May 2005 18:31, Sergiy wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I've installed Debian Sarge on my thinkpad, but the "pipe" sign doesnt > > work with xfree. > > Here is my keyboard configuration: > > > > Section "InputDevice" > > Identifier "Generic Keyboard" > > Driver "keyboard" > > Option "CoreKeyboard" > > Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" > > Option "XkbModel" "pc101" > > Option "XkbLayout" "de_DE" > > EndSection > > > > Any ideas? > > > > Thanx in advance, > > > > Sergiy > This is not a problem of tp 570, though i have one ;) Yeah... I've got a TP 570E running Sarge and I've had no problem with the pipe. I 'pipe to less' all the time. Like the above poster, I've got 'pc104' in my config file as well - not pc101. -- Regards, dbp
Re: problem with rebooting
On 5/26/05, Giancarlo Bruno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I have tried to install Debian Sarge on my notebook, a Toshiba Satellite > P10-792 with an Intel Pentium 4 processor, which has currently Windows XP > running. I installed Debian from the CD and apparently it was all ok, but as > I rebooted the system I got teh following error: > > Code: 0f b6 9c 36 a1 9e 83 e0 ba ff 00 00 00 d3 e2 d3 e3 0f b6 84 > Segmentation fault > <6> Journalled Block Device driver loaded > pivot-root: No such file or directory > /sbin/init: 431: cannot open dev/console: No such file > Kernel panic: Attempted to kill init! > This may be completely unrelated, but in setting up Sarge on my TP570E, I ran into the same exact problem and noticed that if I just tried rebooting again... the problem went away. It was really wierd. For the first week or so it would do this routinely and I'd need to effectivly boot twice. The first time getting the Seg fault-> kernel panic, the second time no problems. I'm into the 2nd or so week using it now and I don't seem to be having the problem. It's wierd. > Any hint? > thanks > Giancarlo > > -- Regards, dbp
Re: ALSA help!
> I have always had issues gettign sound to work on this machine, but I > decided to attack it in earnest. > > I cannot seem to get it to work. I have tried everything. > > esd says /dev/dsp does not exist (it clearly does) > > XMMS gives me the standard Be sure nothing is blocking your Soundcard. > > arts gives me the basic cannot find device. > > I am part of audio group. > > Anyone have a process (ground up) that gets this workin? debian used to come with a program called sndconfig that always did the trick for me. I know this is not a "ground up" approach, but maybe worth a try. btw - it's only available in woody, though. Also - if you *just* added yourself to the audio group... you need to completely log out , then log in again. HTH. That was a funny post, BTW. -- Regards, dbp
Re: Debian on Slow laptops. What setup is best?
On 6/21/05, Benedek Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 21 June 2005 19:34, Tom Olson wrote: > I am pretty happy now, but I am open for other suggestions. I kind of like > having a battery meter, and a volume controll, etc on my desktop. That is why > I settled for XFCE, but if there is a faster one, I am all for it. I'm using icewm and it is *fast* and functional. You mentioned seeing a slow down in performance when going from 2.4 to 2.6 kernel. This is the opposite of my experience. I find 2.6 much faster than 2.4. Strange... My setup is a 570E thinkpad PIII 500MHz with just 128MB RAM. You've got 26(or so) S* entries in your rc.2/ directory. With that many start up scripts... booting is going to take a long time. My Thinkpad does a great job of suspending, so I don't necessarily have to reboot all the time. -- Regards, dbp
