Hot CPU after hibernate (Dell Inspiron 4100)
I'm trying to get the hibernate package working on my Dell Inspiron 4100. So far, everything appears to be working fine, with one exception: after resuming from hibernate, the system shows all the signs of high CPU load --- the CPU temperature keeps creeping up until both fans are running. This persists until I reboot the computer. top doesn't show anything using much CPU, so I'm assuming something more nefarious is happening here. Any ideas? Let's see, information you'll want... I'm running version 1.12-1 of the hibernate package, and a stock Debian 2.6.12 kernel (package linux-image-2.6.12-1-686, version 2.6.12-5, which AFAIK means no suspend2 and ACPI rather than APM). I've attached a copy of my hibernate.conf and the outputs of lspci -v and lsmod. i8kctl prints: 1.0 A03 8PMM611 52 0 0 0 0 1 0 Anything else? Something from /proc/acpi, perhaps? TIA. -sbigham # Example hibernate.conf file. Adapt to your own tastes. # Options are not case sensitive. # # Run "hibernate -h" for help on the configuration items. ## ### Choose your Suspend method. You currently have 3 choices: ### ###suspend2Software Suspend 2 (requires kernel patches from ###http://www.suspend2.net/) ### ###sysfs_power_state Uses /sys/power/state to suspend (activates pmdisk ###on kernels < 2.6.8, or vanilla swsusp otherwise). ### ###acpi_sleep Uses /proc/acpi/sleep to activate swsusp, or other ###ACPI sleep state supported by your machine. ### ## ### suspend2 (for Software Suspend 2) #UseSuspend2 yes #Reboot no #EnableEscape yes #DefaultConsoleLevel 1 #Compressor lzf #Encryptor none # ImageSizeLimit 200 ## useful for initrd usage: # SuspendDevice swap:/dev/hda2 ## Powerdown method - 3 for suspend-to-RAM, 4 for ACPI S4 sleep, 5 for poweroff # PowerdownMethod 5 ## Any other /proc/software_suspend setting can be set like so: # ProcSetting expected_compression 50 ## Or traditionally like this: # Suspend2AllSettings 0 0 2056 65535 5 ## Or even from the results of hibernate --save-settings with this: # Suspend2AllSettingsFile /etc/hibernate/suspend-settings.conf ## For filewriter: # FilewriterLocation /suspend_file 1000 # VerifyFilewriterResume2 yes # ProcSetting userui_program /usr/local/sbin/suspend2ui_text ### sysfs_power_state ## To use /sys/power/state to suspend your machine (which may offer ## suspend-to-RAM, suspend-to-disk, standby, etc) comment out all the options ## above for Software Suspend 2, below for acpi_sleep, and uncomment this line. ## You may replace mem with any one of the states from "cat /sys/power/state" UseSysfsPowerState mem PowerdownMethod shutdown ### acpi_sleep ## To use ACPI to suspend your machine (via /proc/acpi/sleep), comment out ## all the options above for Software Suspend 2 and sysfs, and uncomment this ## line. The number refers to the ACPI sleep state - 3 is suspend-to-RAM and ## 4 is suspend-to-disk. # UseACPISleep 4 ## ### Some global settings ## Verbosity 0 LogFile /var/log/hibernate.log LogVerbosity 1 # AlwaysForce yes # AlwaysKill yes # HibernateVT 15 Distribution debian # XDisplay :0 ## ### Scriptlets ### Scriptlets provide support for doing all sorts of things before and after ### suspending. The defaults settings here should work for most people, but ### you may wish to edit these to taste. Consult "hibernate -h" for help on ### the configuration settings. ## ### bootsplash ## If you use bootsplash, also enabling SwitchToTextMode is recommended if ## you use X, otherwise you may end up with a garbled X display. # Bootsplash on # BootsplashConfig /etc/bootsplash/default/config/bootsplash-1024x768.cfg ### clock SaveClock restore-only ### devices # IncompatibleDevices /dev/dsp /dev/video* ### diskcache # DisableWriteCacheOn /dev/hda ### fbsplash (enable SwitchToTextMode if you use this) # FBSplash on # FBSplashTheme suspend2 ### filesystems # Unmount /nfsshare /windows /mnt/sambaserver # UnmountFSTypes smbfs nfs # UnmountGraceTime 1 # Mount /windows ### grub # ChangeGrubMenu yes # GrubMenuFile /boot/grub/menu.lst # AlternateGrubMenuFile /boot/grub/menu-suspended.lst # BackupGrubMenuFile /boot/grub/menu.lst.hibernate.bak ### hardware_tweaks # IbmAcpi yes RadeonTool yes ### lilo # EnsureLILOResumes yes ### lock (generally you only want one of the following options) # LockConsoleAs root # LockXScreenSaver yes # LockKDE yes # LockXLock yes # LockXAutoLock yes ### misc
Re: Hot CPU after hibernate (Dell Inspiron 4100)
On Tue, Nov 22, 2005 at 03:59:04PM -0800, Ian Greenhoe wrote: > What does the top command show? I've attached the output of top -bc -n 1 from shortly after resume; by this point the CPU was hot enough for the first fan to have kicked in. As you can see, it's running mostly idle, or at least it claims to be; usually, the system only acts this way when something's pegged at 99% CPU. Anyway, HTH. And thanks again. -sbigham top - 23:40:19 up 6:13, 3 users, load average: 2.10, 0.85, 0.30 Tasks: 62 total, 1 running, 61 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 7.3% us, 1.5% sy, 0.0% ni, 89.2% id, 1.8% wa, 0.1% hi, 0.0% si Mem:126644k total, 104792k used,21852k free, 2492k buffers Swap: 249944k total,38352k used, 211592k free,57260k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 4360 dsb 16 0 2616 696 632 S 3.9 0.5 2:32.29 wmbattery -g +1272 8450 dsb 15 0 2200 1004 776 R 2.0 0.8 0:00.01 top -bc -n 1 1 root 16 0 1600 340 308 S 0.0 0.3 0:00.85 init [2] 2 root 34 19 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.02 [ksoftirqd/0] 3 root 10 -5 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.37 [events/0] 4 root 11 -5 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.01 [khelper] 5 root 10 -5 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 [kthread] 7 root 10 -5 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 [kacpid] 110 root 10 -5 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.07 [kblockd/0] 134 root 15 0 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.06 [pdflush] 135 root 15 0 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.19 [pdflush] 137 root 11 -5 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 [aio/0] 136 root 15 0 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.84 [kswapd0] 722 root 15 0 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.46 [kseriod] 836 root 11 -5 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 [ata/0] 2484 root 15 0 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 [khubd] 2978 root 15 0 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 [pccardd] 2984 root 15 0 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 [pccardd] 3419 root 16 0 1652 400 320 S 0.0 0.3 0:00.02 /sbin/syslogd 3422 root 16 0 2472 372 320 S 0.0 0.3 0:00.16 /sbin/klogd 3507 root 16 0 1588 460 376 S 0.0 0.4 0:00.00 /usr/sbin/acpid -c 3641 Debian-e 16 0 4340 424 364 S 0.0 0.3 0:00.00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd 3652 root 16 0 1636 268 264 S 0.0 0.2 0:00.00 /usr/sbin/inetd 3662 daemon16 0 4148 264 256 S 0.0 0.2 0:00.00 lpd Waiting 3671 root 6 -10 1736 320 312 S 0.0 0.3 0:00.00 /usr/bin/nasd -b 3726 root 15 0 1612 404 348 S 0.0 0.3 0:00.00 /sbin/cardmgr 3730 privoxy 16 0 2232 324 316 S 0.0 0.3 0:00.02 /usr/sbin/privoxy - 3759 root 16 0 3300 312 304 S 0.0 0.2 0:00.00 /usr/sbin/sshd 3766 root 16 0 5252 1756 600 S 0.0 1.4 0:00.57 /usr/bin/X11/xfs -d 3838 root 16 0 2832 304 300 S 0.0 0.2 0:00.00 /bin/bash /etc/rc2. 3839 root 16 0 2832 304 300 S 0.0 0.2 0:00.00 /bin/bash /etc/rc2. 3844 root 16 0 9584 432 388 S 0.0 0.3 0:00.30 /usr/bin/Xprt -ac - 3845 root 16 0 1584 192 188 S 0.0 0.2 0:00.00 tee -a /dev/null 3846 root 16 0 1580 192 188 S 0.0 0.2 0:00.00 logger -p lpr.notic 3887 root 16 0 2376 2376 1960 S 0.0 1.9 0:00.04 /usr/sbin/ntpd 3922 daemon16 0 1808 560 512 S 0.0 0.4 0:00.00 /usr/sbin/atd 3925 root 16 0 1864 704 640 S 0.0 0.6 0:00.00 /usr/sbin/cron 3932 dsb 16 0 2908 616 612 S 0.0 0.5 0:00.01 -tcsh 3933 root 16 0 1596 428 424 S 0.0 0.3 0:00.00 /sbin/getty 38400 t 3934 root 16 0 1592 428 424 S 0.0 0.3 0:00.00 /sbin/getty 38400 t 3935 root 16 0 1592 428 424 S 0.0 0.3 0:00.00 /sbin/getty 38400 t 3936 root 16 0 1596 428 424 S 0.0 0.3 0:00.00 /sbin/getty 38400 t 3937 root 16 0 1592 428 424 S 0.0 0.3 0:00.00 /sbin/getty 38400 t 4233 dsb 15 0 1576 264 248 S 0.0 0.2 0:09.15 i8kbuttons -u i8kvo 4236 dsb 16 0 2896 532 528 S 0.0 0.4 0:00.00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/X1 4247 dsb 16 0 2472 468 464 S 0.0 0.4 0:00.00 xinit /usr/X11R6/li 4248 root 5 -10 51708 10m 1532 S 0.0 8.7 8:43.77 /usr/bin/X11/X -dpi 4305 dsb 16 0 3588 1720 1220 S 0.0 1.4 0:03.30 fvwm 4349 dsb 16 0 2876 392 356 S 0.0 0.3 0:00.00 /usr/bin/ssh-agent 4353 dsb 16 0 3060 1088 888 S 0.0 0.9 0:00.77 rxvt -ls -geometry 4354 dsb 15 0 3056 1124
Re: Hot CPU after hibernate (Dell Inspiron 4100)
On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 10:38:25AM -0800, Ian Greenhoe wrote: > Is there evidence of a lot of processes being created? (If you run ps > twice in a row, are the PIDs relatively close to each other? Relatively > close == within about 4 on a lightly loaded machine.) Almost identical. > Another thought is to try killing applications/daemons until your CPU > stops getting hot (as a diagnostic.) I tried killing off everything I thought I could get away with, to no obvious effect. > I suspect that if you track it down to a process (or two), you will > find that there is some common thread where they are using some part > of your hardware before you hibernate, and they are getting really > confused due to the hibernate (and they will need to be restarted > after hibernation). My machine has a problem with XMMS in that > regard: Anything that is *actively* using the sound when I hibernate > will not be able to use the sound after hibernating (until I restart > the offending process.) (nod) On a hunch, I tried adding the NAS deamon to the RestartServices line in hibernate.conf, but that didn't help. On Tue, Nov 22, 2005 at 10:42:47PM -0800, Graziano Obertelli wrote: > the load average above 2 doesn't seem to agree with the machine been > idle. (nod) I checked that: immediately after resume, the load average is high (I've seen it above 4), but after a while it goes back down to zero if I leave it idle, and the temperature is still acting up. > Do you have kernel panics (dmesg)? Not that I could see. I've attached the output of dmesg, with the suspend/resume point marked. > Have you tried to remove some of the modules (wireless usb ...) to see > if they print errors? You mean rmmod? Yeah, I tried removing everything I thought I could get away with (that it would let me rmmod, at least), to no obvious effect. I've already got hibernate configured to unload "blacklisted" modules, which appears to include usb, and I shouldn't have any wireless modules loaded when the card isn't installed. I tried setting UnloadAllModules in hibernate.conf, but not only did that not appear to help, it weirds the display on resume (well, I'm not entirely sure of that causality; the system *was* kind of hot at that point, and I may have been changing other settings at the same time). One other possibility I've come across in my further research is a BIOS upgrade. I'm currently running revision A03, and there's an A13 upgrade available from Dell. I've been putting it off as long as possible, though, on grounds of nervousness; I haven't been able to find confirmation that A13 works with Linux, and AIUI, if you botch the BIOS, there's nothing left to fall back on. That'll probably have to be my next step, though. -sbigham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hot CPU after hibernate (Dell Inspiron 4100)
On Thu, Nov 24, 2005 at 09:26:38AM -0500, I wrote: > [...] I've attached the output of dmesg, with the suspend/resume point > marked. D'oh! *This* time I've attached it. We Apologize for the Inconvenience.(TM) -sbigham 1-4)) #1 Tue Aug 16 21:50:54 UTC 2005 BIOS-provided physical RAM map: BIOS-e820: - 0009fc00 (usable) BIOS-e820: 0009fc00 - 000a (reserved) BIOS-e820: 0010 - 07fe2800 (usable) BIOS-e820: 07fe2800 - 0800 (reserved) BIOS-e820: feda - fee0 (reserved) BIOS-e820: ffb8 - 0001 (reserved) 0MB HIGHMEM available. 127MB LOWMEM available. On node 0 totalpages: 32738 DMA zone: 4096 pages, LIFO batch:1 Normal zone: 28642 pages, LIFO batch:15 HighMem zone: 0 pages, LIFO batch:1 DMI 2.3 present. ACPI: RSDP (v000 DELL ) @ 0x000fde50 ACPI: RSDT (v001 DELLCPi R 0x27d10b0c ASL 0x0061) @ 0x000fde64 ACPI: FADT (v001 DELLCPi R 0x27d10b0c ASL 0x0061) @ 0x000fde90 ACPI: DSDT (v001 INT430 SYSFexxx 0x1001 MSFT 0x010d) @ 0x ACPI: PM-Timer IO Port: 0x808 Allocating PCI resources starting at 0800 (gap: 0800:f6da) Built 1 zonelists Kernel command line: auto BOOT_IMAGE=linux ro root=302 Local APIC disabled by BIOS -- you can enable it with "lapic" mapped APIC to d000 (01101000) Initializing CPU#0 PID hash table entries: 512 (order: 9, 8192 bytes) Detected 863.871 MHz processor. Using pmtmr for high-res timesource Console: colour VGA+ 80x25 Dentry cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes) Inode-cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 4, 65536 bytes) Memory: 124868k/130952k available (1728k kernel code, 5624k reserved, 721k data, 180k init, 0k highmem) Checking if this processor honours the WP bit even in supervisor mode... Ok. Calibrating delay loop... 1712.12 BogoMIPS (lpj=856064) Security Framework v1.0.0 initialized SELinux: Disabled at boot. Mount-cache hash table entries: 512 CPU: After generic identify, caps: 0383f9ff CPU: After vendor identify, caps: 0383f9ff CPU: L1 I cache: 16K, L1 D cache: 16K CPU: L2 cache: 512K CPU: After all inits, caps: 0383f9ff 0040 Intel machine check architecture supported. Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0. CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) III Mobile CPU 866MHz stepping 01 Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done. Enabling unmasked SIMD FPU exception support... done. Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK. ACPI: setting ELCR to 0200 (from 0800) checking if image is initramfs...it isn't (bad gzip magic numbers); looks like an initrd Freeing initrd memory: 1524k freed NET: Registered protocol family 16 PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfbffe, last bus=2 PCI: Using configuration type 1 mtrr: v2.0 (20020519) ACPI: Subsystem revision 20050309 ACPI: Interpreter enabled ACPI: Using PIC for interrupt routing ACPI: PCI Root Bridge [PCI0] (:00) PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00) PCI: Ignoring BAR0-3 of IDE controller :00:1f.1 Boot video device is :01:00.0 PCI: Transparent bridge - :00:1e.0 ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0._PRT] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 *11 12 14 15) ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 *11 12 14 15) ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 *11 12 14 15) ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 *11 12 14 15) ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0.AGP_._PRT] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0.PCIE._PRT] ACPI: Power Resource [PADA] (on) Linux Plug and Play Support v0.97 (c) Adam Belay pnp: PnP ACPI init pnp: PnP ACPI: found 16 devices PnPBIOS: Disabled by ACPI PNP PCI: Using ACPI for IRQ routing PCI: If a device doesn't work, try "pci=routeirq". If it helps, post a report pnp: 00:01: ioport range 0x4d0-0x4d1 has been reserved pnp: 00:01: ioport range 0x800-0x805 could not be reserved pnp: 00:01: ioport range 0x808-0x80f could not be reserved pnp: 00:02: ioport range 0x806-0x807 has been reserved pnp: 00:02: ioport range 0x810-0x85f could not be reserved pnp: 00:02: ioport range 0x860-0x87f has been reserved pnp: 00:02: ioport range 0x880-0x8bf has been reserved pnp: 00:02: ioport range 0x8c0-0x8df has been reserved pnp: 00:02: ioport range 0x8e0-0x8ff has been reserved pnp: 00:03: ioport range 0xf000-0xf0fe has been reserved pnp: 00:03: ioport range 0xf100-0xf1fe has been reserved pnp: 00:03: ioport range 0xf200-0xf2fe has been reserved pnp: 00:03: ioport range 0xf400-0xf4fe has been reserved pnp: 00:03: ioport range 0xf500-0xf5fe has been reserved pnp: 00:03: ioport range 0xf600-0xf6fe has been reserved pnp: 00:03: ioport range 0xf800-0xf8fe has been reserved pnp: 00:03: ioport range 0xf900-0xf9fe has been
Re: Hot CPU after hibernate (Dell Inspiron 4100)
On Fri, Nov 25, 2005 at 12:52:38AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Have you checked the problem is not there when you reboot? Cause > others have had similar symptoms and it appeared to be a dirty fan, > with lots of dust collected over the years. That way the processor > simply did not got enough cooling power from the air flow. Yes, rebooting does consistently fix the problem. On Sun, Nov 27, 2005 at 04:40:00AM +, Michael Perry wrote: > I understand the nervousness but I would definitely consider moving up > to a new BIOS revision. (nod) Fair enough. Now I just have to scrounge up a floppy that hasn't completely rotted out yet... > My inspiron will not do ACPI reliably and things go terribly awry when > I try to use ACPI so I always just back off and go back to APM. Ya know, now that you mention it, I have used APM with this computer, back with the 2.2 and 2.4 kernels (that was back when I was still building a custom kernel; I didn't build in ACPI support, because I assumed I didn't have the hardware), and I never had problems like this. Is there a way to disable ACPI? [searches kernel source docs] Ah, yes, just have to use the 'acpi=off' kernel boot parameter. I suppose I should have thought of that possibility. And after all the effort I went to to find a graphical battery monitor program that supported ACPI and didn't depend on a GNOME/KDE-style desktop environment being present... :-} -sbigham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hot CPU after hibernate (Dell Inspiron 4100)
On Sun, Nov 27, 2005 at 08:53:44PM -0500, Scott Bigham wrote: > Is there a way to disable ACPI? [searches kernel source docs] Ah, yes, > just have to use the 'acpi=off' kernel boot parameter. And my preliminary tests appear to confirm that with this parameter in place, good old apm -s works just as well as it used to, with no side effects. It's the simple and blindingly obvious solutions that are the hardest to see, I guess. :-} Thanks again to everyone who responded. -sbigham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: time
On Jan 1, 1990, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm having trouble setting my time on a Toshiba 2100cds. I did a clean > install of potato a week ago and the time reads Jan 1 1990? (1) How do I > change this? (2) How do I keep the time accurate when I turn off it off? I used to have this problem intermittently with my Toshiba Portege 7020CT. Fortunately, I don't anymore; unfortunately for you, I have no idea what it was that fixed it. :-} It did seem to be correlated with whether I had suspended the computer (via apm -s) in the previous session, which would seem to corroborate the hypothesis in another reply that the problem is APM-related. -sbigham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please tell your success story
On Mar 15, 2000, Dieter Ebner wrote: > Who has recently bought a laptop and was able to install LINUX? If no one else has suggested it, may I recommend the Linux on Laptops page?[1] They won't all be Debian-specific (which I imagine is what you were interested in, given the mailing list you chose), but it should give you some information. > Could you please tell me the exact type of your laptop + how you have solved > problems. My weapon of choice was a Toshiba Portege 7020CT. It's one of the ones that needs the 'tecra' boot disks. > I am particularly interested in laptops of the higher class: > > 6-15 GB HD 6.4 here. > 64-128 MB RAM 64MB. > USB, serial, parallel Check, check and check, though I can't confirm actual functionality of USB. The serial and parallel ports are on a separate port expander. > floppy External, but works like a charm. > DVD instead of CD The Portege has a separate docking station, which can be had with a CD or DVD drive. I have neither, but the DVD docking station has been reported to work.[2] > 14" color 14.1" IIRC, at 1024x768. I have it running at 8-bit, but 24 is reported to work. You'll need X 3.3.5 or later to support the video chip, IIRC. > external wheel mouse possible (shrug) I can neither confirm nor deny. > sound ESS Maestro 2e; no luck so far. :-( (And yes, I know about Zach Brown's driver;[3] that's what I've been having no luck with...) > modem and/or Ethernet included Has a Winmodem; the Lucent driver is reported to work. The docking station has an Ethernet interface that is reported to work. Myself, I use a 3Com PCMCIA Ethernet/modem combo card. -sbigham [1] http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/> [2] http://agnes.dida.physik.uni-essen.de/~anja/linux/portege7020.html> [3] http://people.redhat.com/zab/maestro/>
Re: Maestro
On Mar 15, 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > What are you problems exactly ? I have one on a Siemens Scenic Mobile > 360, and it's sound OK except for .au which sound horrible. Does RealAudio work for you? It came out very distorted when I tried it. I don't have any .mp3's or music CD's, so that and .au's are my own way of testing sound. -sbigham
Re: Maestro
On Mar 15, 2000, Scott Bigham wrote: > Does RealAudio work for you? It came out very distorted when I tried > it. Okay, scratch that. I just got through installing RealPlayer 7, and for no apparent reason, it all suddenly started working again. :-} Oh well, who am I to complain? I've got several months of backlogged archives I've been chomping at the bit to get at... ;) -sbigham
Re: time
On Jan 1, 1990, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm having trouble setting my time on a Toshiba 2100cds. I did a clean > install of potato a week ago and the time reads Jan 1 1990? (1) How do I > change this? (2) How do I keep the time accurate when I turn off it off? I used to have this problem intermittently with my Toshiba Portege 7020CT. Fortunately, I don't anymore; unfortunately for you, I have no idea what it was that fixed it. :-} It did seem to be correlated with whether I had suspended the computer (via apm -s) in the previous session, which would seem to corroborate the hypothesis in another reply that the problem is APM-related. -sbigham
Req. advice on upgrades: kernel, X, libc
This is, I humbly submit, at least partially on-topic for this list, ;) since the machine I'm thinking about upgrading is my notebook, and at least some of the questions are laptop-specific. Anywho, these are the upgrades I'm considering: - kernel: 2.2.19 -> 2.4.9 My understanding from previous discussions on this topic is that the PCMCIA kernel modules in 2.4 are NRFPT (or has this changed in 2.4.9?), and that I will therefore need to build and install the pcmcia-cs modules in the same manner that I did for 2.2.x, after which I will presumably have exactly the same PCMCIA functionality that I have now. There's also the issue of whether to compile in framebuffer support, in light of: - XFree86: 3.3.6 -> 4.1.0 My notebook is a Toshiba Portege 7020CT, which has a NeoMagic NM2200 video chip. The XFree86 site lists this chip as "Support (accelerated)" in 4.1.0;[1] do I lose the acceleration if I use the framebuffer? There's also the question of the XF86Config changes; is there a utility to convert an old 3.3.6 config file to the new syntax? Of course, unless I want to download a ~50MB tarball and recompile all of X from first principles, I first have to upgrade: - libc6: 2.1.3 -> 2.2.3 This is the one that's really got me worried. I mean, if this goes wrong, it has the potential to break *everything*. Anything special I need to do here? And, coming full circle, if I do this upgrade before the kernel upgrade, do I still need to use the "bunk" versions of the various 2.4 utilities,[2] or can I just use the versions from testing? TIA, as always. -sbigham [1] http://www.xfree86.org/4.1.0/Status21.html#21> [2] http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/kernel-24.html>
Req. advice on upgrades: kernel, X, libc
This is, I humbly submit, at least partially on-topic for this list, ;) since the machine I'm thinking about upgrading is my notebook, and at least some of the questions are laptop-specific. Anywho, these are the upgrades I'm considering: - kernel: 2.2.19 -> 2.4.9 My understanding from previous discussions on this topic is that the PCMCIA kernel modules in 2.4 are NRFPT (or has this changed in 2.4.9?), and that I will therefore need to build and install the pcmcia-cs modules in the same manner that I did for 2.2.x, after which I will presumably have exactly the same PCMCIA functionality that I have now. There's also the issue of whether to compile in framebuffer support, in light of: - XFree86: 3.3.6 -> 4.1.0 My notebook is a Toshiba Portege 7020CT, which has a NeoMagic NM2200 video chip. The XFree86 site lists this chip as "Support (accelerated)" in 4.1.0;[1] do I lose the acceleration if I use the framebuffer? There's also the question of the XF86Config changes; is there a utility to convert an old 3.3.6 config file to the new syntax? Of course, unless I want to download a ~50MB tarball and recompile all of X from first principles, I first have to upgrade: - libc6: 2.1.3 -> 2.2.3 This is the one that's really got me worried. I mean, if this goes wrong, it has the potential to break *everything*. Anything special I need to do here? And, coming full circle, if I do this upgrade before the kernel upgrade, do I still need to use the "bunk" versions of the various 2.4 utilities,[2] or can I just use the versions from testing? TIA, as always. -sbigham [1] http://www.xfree86.org/4.1.0/Status21.html#21> [2] http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/kernel-24.html> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Time/date lost on Toshiba after reboot
On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, Anthony Campbell wrote: > going back usually to 1 Jan 1990 although sometimes other dates. As long > as I stay in Linux all is well; if I set the date correctly in DOS it > also stays correct even after complete shutdown and reboot. I don't even have to leave Linux to get this. It happens intermittently, with no discernable pattern, when I shut down, reboot, or suspend the computer. For reference, this is on a Toshiba Portege 7020CT. > I suspect this may be something to do with the Toshiba BIOS because it > doesn't happen with my 486 desktop. Or could it be APM? I dunno. This never happened on my Toshiba Satellite 205CDS. -sbigham
Re: Trying to correctly configure X
On Tue, 26 Oct 1999, Brian Servis wrote: > *- On 26 Oct, Bryan K. Walton wrote about "Trying to correctly configure X" > > [...] I have a NeoMagic 256AV video card in the machine that I > > believe has about 2.5 meg of memory. > You need the XFCom_NeoMagic server from Redhat or Suse. Sorry, I don't > remember the URL. I am using it with XFree86 3.3.4. I might be in > 3.3.5 but I haven't seen 3.3.5 Debian packages yet. I have, in potato; that's what I've got on my Toshiba Portege 7020CT (same chipset, IINM). The XF86Setup with 3.3.5 should be able to take you from there; it got everything right first time on my system. -sbigham
Port Noteworthy external CD-ROM
Has anyone had any success with the Port Noteworthy PCMCIA CD-ROM? Yes, I know it isn't on the SUPPORTED.CARDS list; I thought it was when I bought it... :-} I figured I should at least try getting it to work, though, before biting the proverbial bullet and buying another one. I have actually gotten it to work a time or two, though it still spits error messages like a sieve and seems to be tripping all over itself (the mount process, for instance, took about 8 minutes last time...). Most of the time, though, the mount process hangs hard --- not even a kill -9 will stop it. When it works, cardinfo reports I/O ports at 0x100-0x10f and an IRQ of 9; when it doesn't work, those fields remain empty. The most common error message is 'hdc: lost interrupt', though there are a number of others; I can provide a more complete kernel log on request. Since the missing IO-port/IRQ information seems to correlate with the drive failure, I'm hoping that this is simply a configuration issue, that I need to be telling the drivers something about the card. My pcmcia-cs config is unchanged from OOTB. For reference, I'm running a 2.2.5 kernel and pcmcia-cs 3.1.1-1. TIA. -sbigham
Multifunction cards functioning... er, multiply?
I have a 3Com Megahertz 3CXEM556 Ethernet/modem combo card, which apparently keys off the 3c589_cs kernel driver. It works fine, but it suffers from the problem described in the PCMCIA HOWTO[*] that the Ethernet and serial drivers cannot function simultaneously, so that, for instance, I have to manually rmmod the Ethernet driver to use the modem. My question is, have more recent versions of the kernel or PCMCIA modules alleviated this problem (I'm currently running kernel 2.2.5 and pcmcia-cs 3.1.1-1 on top of Debian 2.1); or alternatively, can anyone recommend an Ethernet/modem combo card (preferably with XJACK) that does not have this problem? -sbigham [*] http://metalab.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/PCMCIA-HOWTO-4.html#ss4.8>
Re: Time/date lost on Toshiba after reboot
On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, Anthony Campbell wrote: > going back usually to 1 Jan 1990 although sometimes other dates. As long > as I stay in Linux all is well; if I set the date correctly in DOS it > also stays correct even after complete shutdown and reboot. I don't even have to leave Linux to get this. It happens intermittently, with no discernable pattern, when I shut down, reboot, or suspend the computer. For reference, this is on a Toshiba Portege 7020CT. > I suspect this may be something to do with the Toshiba BIOS because it > doesn't happen with my 486 desktop. Or could it be APM? I dunno. This never happened on my Toshiba Satellite 205CDS. -sbigham
Re: Trying to correctly configure X
On Tue, 26 Oct 1999, Brian Servis wrote: > *- On 26 Oct, Bryan K. Walton wrote about "Trying to correctly configure X" > > [...] I have a NeoMagic 256AV video card in the machine that I > > believe has about 2.5 meg of memory. > You need the XFCom_NeoMagic server from Redhat or Suse. Sorry, I don't > remember the URL. I am using it with XFree86 3.3.4. I might be in > 3.3.5 but I haven't seen 3.3.5 Debian packages yet. I have, in potato; that's what I've got on my Toshiba Portege 7020CT (same chipset, IINM). The XF86Setup with 3.3.5 should be able to take you from there; it got everything right first time on my system. -sbigham
Port Noteworthy external CD-ROM
Has anyone had any success with the Port Noteworthy PCMCIA CD-ROM? Yes, I know it isn't on the SUPPORTED.CARDS list; I thought it was when I bought it... :-} I figured I should at least try getting it to work, though, before biting the proverbial bullet and buying another one. I have actually gotten it to work a time or two, though it still spits error messages like a sieve and seems to be tripping all over itself (the mount process, for instance, took about 8 minutes last time...). Most of the time, though, the mount process hangs hard --- not even a kill -9 will stop it. When it works, cardinfo reports I/O ports at 0x100-0x10f and an IRQ of 9; when it doesn't work, those fields remain empty. The most common error message is 'hdc: lost interrupt', though there are a number of others; I can provide a more complete kernel log on request. Since the missing IO-port/IRQ information seems to correlate with the drive failure, I'm hoping that this is simply a configuration issue, that I need to be telling the drivers something about the card. My pcmcia-cs config is unchanged from OOTB. For reference, I'm running a 2.2.5 kernel and pcmcia-cs 3.1.1-1. TIA. -sbigham
Multifunction cards functioning... er, multiply?
I have a 3Com Megahertz 3CXEM556 Ethernet/modem combo card, which apparently keys off the 3c589_cs kernel driver. It works fine, but it suffers from the problem described in the PCMCIA HOWTO[*] that the Ethernet and serial drivers cannot function simultaneously, so that, for instance, I have to manually rmmod the Ethernet driver to use the modem. My question is, have more recent versions of the kernel or PCMCIA modules alleviated this problem (I'm currently running kernel 2.2.5 and pcmcia-cs 3.1.1-1 on top of Debian 2.1); or alternatively, can anyone recommend an Ethernet/modem combo card (preferably with XJACK) that does not have this problem? -sbigham [*] http://metalab.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/PCMCIA-HOWTO-4.html#ss4.8>
Re: pcmcia in woody (was spaming filters)
On Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 05:24:41PM -0800, Heather wrote: > Anyways when I was asking for a "known abiding reason" I meant something > specific, not "that's how testing/woody works". Which arch needs to be > hit on the head to make it happy? Generally the place to look for this sort of thing is the 'excuses' page[1] off the testing page.[2] On the subject of pcmcia-cs, it says: * pcmcia-cs (3.1.22-0.1potato to 3.1.31-6) + Maintainer: Brian Mays + Package is in freeze, doubling delay + Too young, only 1 of 4 days old + out of date on alpha: pcmcia-cs (from 3.1.22-3) + out of date on arm: pcmcia-cs (from 3.1.29-3) + out of date on i386: pcmcia-modules-2.4.17-bf2.4 (from 3.1.31-3); pcmcia-modules-2.2.20, pcmcia-modules-2.2.20-compact, pcmcia-modules-2.2.20-ide, pcmcia-modules-2.2.20-idepci, pcmcia-modules-2.2.20-reiserfs, pcmcia-modules-2.2.20-udma100-ext3, pcmcia-modules-2.4.17-386, pcmcia-modules-2.4.17-586tsc, pcmcia-modules-2.4.17-686, pcmcia-modules-2.4.17-686-smp, pcmcia-modules-2.4.17-k6, pcmcia-modules-2.4.17-k7 (from 3.1.31-5) + out of date on powerpc: pcmcia-modules-2.2.20-pmac, pcmcia-modules-2.4.16-newpmac (from 3.1.29-4); pcmcia-cs (from 3.1.28-2) + Not considered -sbigham [1] http://ftp-master.debian.org/testing/update_excuses.html> [2] http://ftp-master.debian.org/testing/>
Re: pcmcia in woody (was spaming filters)
On Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 05:24:41PM -0800, Heather wrote: > Anyways when I was asking for a "known abiding reason" I meant something > specific, not "that's how testing/woody works". Which arch needs to be > hit on the head to make it happy? Generally the place to look for this sort of thing is the 'excuses' page[1] off the testing page.[2] On the subject of pcmcia-cs, it says: * pcmcia-cs (3.1.22-0.1potato to 3.1.31-6) + Maintainer: Brian Mays + Package is in freeze, doubling delay + Too young, only 1 of 4 days old + out of date on alpha: pcmcia-cs (from 3.1.22-3) + out of date on arm: pcmcia-cs (from 3.1.29-3) + out of date on i386: pcmcia-modules-2.4.17-bf2.4 (from 3.1.31-3); pcmcia-modules-2.2.20, pcmcia-modules-2.2.20-compact, pcmcia-modules-2.2.20-ide, pcmcia-modules-2.2.20-idepci, pcmcia-modules-2.2.20-reiserfs, pcmcia-modules-2.2.20-udma100-ext3, pcmcia-modules-2.4.17-386, pcmcia-modules-2.4.17-586tsc, pcmcia-modules-2.4.17-686, pcmcia-modules-2.4.17-686-smp, pcmcia-modules-2.4.17-k6, pcmcia-modules-2.4.17-k7 (from 3.1.31-5) + out of date on powerpc: pcmcia-modules-2.2.20-pmac, pcmcia-modules-2.4.16-newpmac (from 3.1.29-4); pcmcia-cs (from 3.1.28-2) + Not considered -sbigham [1] http://ftp-master.debian.org/testing/update_excuses.html> [2] http://ftp-master.debian.org/testing/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
