Re: apt-cache (was as86 ...)
On Fri, Jul 07, 2000 at 08:36:23AM +0900, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I think it can. Try it on a package that you haven't got installed. > > > Brendan Simon. > > > > No -- the reason it works in this particular case is because as86 is > > mentioned in the description of bin86. If a file isn't mentioned in the > > description, or somewhere similar, apt-cache search won't find it. > > darn, thought that might be the case. > > as a side note, does anyone have a fool-proof way of determining which > package a file on a given system "belongs" to? typically, i grep > among /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list, but i don't think this will turn up > files that are created during the installation process (as compared to > files that are included inside of debian packages that just get > unpacked). > dpkg -S should do the trick (works for me :-). MBG -- Matthew Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED] Victory uber allies! http://www.netcom.ca/~mguenthe/ PGP signature
Re: Upgrading pcmcia-* breaks ppp
On Sun, Jan 16, 2000 at 08:19:38PM -0500, Damir J. Naden wrote: > Hi Christopher S. Swingley; unless Mutt is confused, you wrote: > > > > What did you change the irq to, and how? I tried to do this by > > excluding IRQ's in the PCMCIA config.opts file but each time it > > still failed, until finally there were no IRQ's left and the > > serial module wouldn't load. > > > > I _have_ to do the following (thinkpad380xd, xircom creditcard modem > 56k, potato home-compiled 2.2.13 w. 3.1.8 pcmcia): after computer is > running, edit the file /etc/pcmcia/serial.opts and put in the > SER_OPTS line irq 3; restart the pcmcia by restarting init.d/pcmcia > - this is where the modem is slow if I try to use it, so I do not- > go _back_ into the serial.opts file and _remove_ irq 3 to empty "" > (just as it was originally), restart the services and, voila, all > works fine. This happens when I don't link the ttyS2 (wher the card > is detected to the /dev/modem, as it does with the link on. The > other poster has suggested removing setserial; is there anything bad > that can result from it (i.e. what does setserial do on a laptop)? > This is getting to be pretty annoying procedure, now that even the > sound is working flawlessly... > I think I may be having the exact same problem, and it started happening when I upgraded to 3.1.8. However, I got it to work by using setserial /dev/modem irq 0 setserial /dev/modem irq 3 No pcmcia restarts required. The card keeps working through suspends, however if it is removed or the computer is restarted I have to issue the above commands again. I have told Dave Hinds about this problem and he said he's heard of incidents like this but can't figure out what's wrong. I'm using a Dell Latitude LM166ST, with a Megahertz XJ4556 33.6 modem. Are you getting strange messages from modprobe when you attempt to bring up a ppp connection? I always get some nonsense about not being able to find char-major-108, even though I have ppp support compiled into the kernel (not a module). Also, occasionally with this hack I get flaky connections, I can dial in but it hangs before getting an IP address. Is this situation similar to yours? MBG -- Matthew Guenther Nonsense. Space is blue and birds [EMAIL PROTECTED] fly through it. http://www.netcom.ca/~mguenthe/ -- Heisenberg pgpTqulbuodJP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Recent PPP connection problems
Help! Somehow this morning I managed to completely toast my filesystem, and I've spent the rest of the day attempting to reinstall debian... however I'm running into a bit of a snag. Everything installs okay, but the ppp link is not working correctly; namely I can only seem to ping hosts on my isp's domain, although I am able to lookup the addresses of hosts outside the domain. I looked through the PPP-HOWTO, FAQ, as well as several others, and as far as I can tell things should be working. I have "defaultroute" set in the /ppp/options file, and pppd is setting it up on connection. The routing table when I'm connected looks (roughly) like this: Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface ott-on-pm3.netcom.ca * 255.255.255.255 UH0 0 0 ppp0 localnet * 255.0.0.0U 0 0 1 lo defaultott-on-pm3.n 0.0.0.0 UG0 0 2 ppp0 Which seems okay. The only other clues I have as to what's going wrong are some syslog messages that I don't recall seeing before when connecting: pppd: Cannot determine ethernet address for proxy ARP and kernel: Appletalk 0.17 for Linux NET3.035 Which seems odd simply because I don't have any ethernet or Appletalk devices (AFAIK). This is all happening on a Dell Latitude LM166ST laptop, 72MB RAM, using both a 3com xj4336 pcmcia modem and a Xircom REM56G-10 multi-function card. Also, I'm attempting to install Debian 2.0, which is what I originally installed on this computer. I don't recall having to go through these kind of hoops before... which is adding another level of absurdity to the whole situation. If anyone out there has any idea what the heck is going on and preferably how to fix it, I would be forever in your debt. Thanks, MBG ___ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca
Re: apt-cache (was as86 ...)
On Fri, Jul 07, 2000 at 08:36:23AM +0900, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I think it can. Try it on a package that you haven't got installed. > > > Brendan Simon. > > > > No -- the reason it works in this particular case is because as86 is > > mentioned in the description of bin86. If a file isn't mentioned in the > > description, or somewhere similar, apt-cache search won't find it. > > darn, thought that might be the case. > > as a side note, does anyone have a fool-proof way of determining which > package a file on a given system "belongs" to? typically, i grep > among /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list, but i don't think this will turn up > files that are created during the installation process (as compared to > files that are included inside of debian packages that just get > unpacked). > dpkg -S should do the trick (works for me :-). MBG -- Matthew Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED] Victory uber allies! http://www.netcom.ca/~mguenthe/ pgpYd2lpYk0ib.pgp Description: PGP signature
Inspiron 8200 Alsa Problems
Hi, I have recently run into a problem with alsa on my Dell Inspiron 8200. It has an intel 810 sound system which was working fine under alsa with my self-compiled 2.6.5 kernel. However when I upgraded to a newer 2.6.7 kernel the sound stopped working. I did not change my .config between versions and the appropriate modules are being built, however the sound card is no longer detected. Looking through the kernel and alsa documentation did not turn up anything, nor have any similar problem reports shown up in google. I have tried everything I can think of including configuration changes, updating alsa libraries and modutils changes but nothing has worked. Does anyone have any idea what might be going on or suggestions for further information? Thanks, MBG -- Matthew Guenther Mechanical Engineering Graduate Researcher University of Victoria [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://antiflux.org/~mguenthe/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Inspiron 8200 Alsa Problems
dircha wrote: You didn't mention it, so I'll ask. I have an Inspiron 8200 as well, and I'm running a self-compiled 2.6.7 kernel. Have you tried just the simple route of running alsaconf? alsaconf successfully configures my sound without a problem. > I did, as that has worked as well as you describe in the past for me also. However now after I select the intel8x0 driver it attempts to use alsamixer to raise the volume and I get a device not found error and nothing further happens. However I am much more hopeful now, at least there's someone with the same computer in a working configuration. Did you compile ALSA from the source shipped with the kernel or from the alsa-source package? Thanks, MBG -- Matthew Guenther Mechanical Engineering Graduate Researcher University of Victoria [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://antiflux.org/~mguenthe/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Inspiron 8200 Alsa Problems
Bruno Muller wrote: However hotplug loads snd* modules ? I had this problem... booting with "pci=noacpi" works for me (see http://www.softlab.ece.ntua.gr/~amanous/Inspiron-Linux/#kernel) I tried your suggestion before heading off to work this morning and after a reboot the sound works as it did before, thanks! (As an aside: does this option hamper the suspend capabilities of the laptop?) Thanks again, MBG -- Matthew Guenther Mechanical Engineering Graduate Researcher University of Victoria [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://antiflux.org/~mguenthe/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem getting ALSA working on Dell Inspiron 4150
Joe Emenaker wrote: Here are the quick facts: 1 - ALSA used to work. I don't know when it stopped working... if it was after a kernel upgrade or an upgrade in some of the alsa-tools or what. But now, I get no sound. I don't get any *errors*... I just don't get any sound. 2 - Typical problem in this case is that the volumes are all muted. However, in this case, if I run "alsamixer", I get "function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device". 3 - /proc/alsa/cards contains "--- no soundcards ---". 4 - OSS *does* work. (No, I don't want to use it because I can't get KDE and XMMS to use it at the same time) 5 - 'lsmod' shows that the intel8x0 *is* loaded... as well as soundcore, and a lot of other things that lsmod claims intel8x0 uses. Any ideas? This sounds pretty close to what happened to me with my Inspiron 8200 after a kernel upgrade, I posted a question here and got a response from Bruno Muller to try booting with "pci=noacpi" passed to the kernel. Everything works hunky-dory now, you might want to give it a shot. He also pointed out this website: http://www.softlab.ece.ntua.gr/~amanous/Inspiron-Linux/#kernel HTH, MBG -- Matthew Guenther Mechanical Engineering Graduate Researcher University of Victoria [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://antiflux.org/~mguenthe/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: laptop "metapackage"
On Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 10:22:29AM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > > I have received the go ahead and will be constructing this package over the > next week. > > So, now the moment of truth. What to add? > > Package task-laptop > Depends: anacron, ?? > Suggests: netenv, dhcp-client (or one of these) > Conflicts: ?? > Replaces: ?? > Recommends: ?? > > Until irda gets in fully, it is not an option. I should have initial divine > packages here soon as well. > How about suggesting the packages hdparm and apmd? Should it also maybe include laptop-specific documentation/setup information? I just keep thinking about how difficult it was to set up a mail server to work properly over an intermittent connection. Maybe a special set of docs for fetchmail, qmail, smail... ? MBG -- "Infinite: Bigger than the biggest thing ever and then some. Much bigger than that in fact, really amazingly immense, a totally stunning size, real "wow, that's big," time. Infinity is just so big that, by comparison, bigness itself looks really titchy. Gigantic multiplied by colossal multiplied by staggeringly huge is the sort of concept we're trying to get across here." -Douglas Adams 'The Restaurant at the End of the Universe' pgpZ0i82pAaPB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: laptop "metapackage"
On Mon, Sep 20, 1999 at 06:35:37PM +0200, Russell Coker wrote: > > IMHO hdparm is no more important to a laptop than to a desktop... > I'm not sure here, are you saying hdparm should be included, or it's useful on all computers; desktops and laptops, so shouldn't be included here? I think if apmd is going to be suggested for power management, hdparm should also be suggested by this metapackage. MBG -- "Infinite: Bigger than the biggest thing ever and then some. Much bigger than that in fact, really amazingly immense, a totally stunning size, real "wow, that's big," time. Infinity is just so big that, by comparison, bigness itself looks really titchy. Gigantic multiplied by colossal multiplied by staggeringly huge is the sort of concept we're trying to get across here." -Douglas Adams 'The Restaurant at the End of the Universe' pgp2XpazV1JHq.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: laptop "metapackage"
On Wed, Sep 22, 1999 at 11:26:20AM +0200, Russell Coker wrote: > I am saying that it has no special importance for laptops. If we go down the > track of dragging everything that is needed for a laptop then we'll soon have > things like bash included which IMHO is not the aim. The aim is to list all > things that are laptop specific or that have a special need in laptops. I totally understand that fear, I've had the same thoughts. > You install hdparm if you want to tune your hard drive(s) for maximum > performance. It doesn't matter if you have a desktop or a laptop. If you > choose not to install hdparm on your desktop then you probably shouldn't be > forced to install it on your laptop. The reason I suggested it is that I don't use hdparm for tuning my hard-drive for performance, only for setting it to shut down after 30 seconds of inactivity, like my previous Win95 settings. So I've always thought of it as a power management tool, along with apmd. Would having the laptop-metapackage just suggest or recommend (can't remember which is lower) hdparm, but not depend on it be a better solution I wonder? MBG -- "Infinite: Bigger than the biggest thing ever and then some. Much bigger than that in fact, really amazingly immense, a totally stunning size, real "wow, that's big," time. Infinity is just so big that, by comparison, bigness itself looks really titchy. Gigantic multiplied by colossal multiplied by staggeringly huge is the sort of concept we're trying to get across here." -Douglas Adams 'The Restaurant at the End of the Universe' pgpQb5Zu4XCZi.pgp Description: PGP signature
Debian on an older laptop
Hi, I have an friend who wants to ditch windows and put linux on his laptop. I already have Debian installed on my Dell and it works fine, however I'm not sure if it's possible to install on his computer (Zenith Z-Note L425). The biggest problem is that he is without a CD drive, and only has a very slow modem (9600 bps). Is it possible to install most of a working system off of floppies? Would it be possible to easily transfer files between my computer and his using a serial cable? Would Debian even be the best choice for this machine? Thanks, MBG -- "Infinite: Bigger than the biggest thing ever and then some. Much bigger than that in fact, really amazingly immense, a totally stunning size, real "wow, that's big," time. Infinity is just so big that, by comparison, bigness itself looks really titchy. Gigantic multiplied by colossal multiplied by staggeringly huge is the sort of concept we're trying to get across here." -Douglas Adams 'The Restaurant at the End of the Universe' pgpCxEaiZnP9h.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: laptop "metapackage"
On Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 10:22:29AM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > > I have received the go ahead and will be constructing this package over the > next week. > > So, now the moment of truth. What to add? > > Package task-laptop > Depends: anacron, ?? > Suggests: netenv, dhcp-client (or one of these) > Conflicts: ?? > Replaces: ?? > Recommends: ?? > > Until irda gets in fully, it is not an option. I should have initial divine > packages here soon as well. > How about suggesting the packages hdparm and apmd? Should it also maybe include laptop-specific documentation/setup information? I just keep thinking about how difficult it was to set up a mail server to work properly over an intermittent connection. Maybe a special set of docs for fetchmail, qmail, smail... ? MBG -- "Infinite: Bigger than the biggest thing ever and then some. Much bigger than that in fact, really amazingly immense, a totally stunning size, real "wow, that's big," time. Infinity is just so big that, by comparison, bigness itself looks really titchy. Gigantic multiplied by colossal multiplied by staggeringly huge is the sort of concept we're trying to get across here." -Douglas Adams 'The Restaurant at the End of the Universe' pgprzC59vYEVm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: laptop "metapackage"
On Mon, Sep 20, 1999 at 06:35:37PM +0200, Russell Coker wrote: > > IMHO hdparm is no more important to a laptop than to a desktop... > I'm not sure here, are you saying hdparm should be included, or it's useful on all computers; desktops and laptops, so shouldn't be included here? I think if apmd is going to be suggested for power management, hdparm should also be suggested by this metapackage. MBG -- "Infinite: Bigger than the biggest thing ever and then some. Much bigger than that in fact, really amazingly immense, a totally stunning size, real "wow, that's big," time. Infinity is just so big that, by comparison, bigness itself looks really titchy. Gigantic multiplied by colossal multiplied by staggeringly huge is the sort of concept we're trying to get across here." -Douglas Adams 'The Restaurant at the End of the Universe' pgpqMSJmltMcm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: laptop "metapackage"
On Wed, Sep 22, 1999 at 11:26:20AM +0200, Russell Coker wrote: > I am saying that it has no special importance for laptops. If we go down the > track of dragging everything that is needed for a laptop then we'll soon have > things like bash included which IMHO is not the aim. The aim is to list all > things that are laptop specific or that have a special need in laptops. I totally understand that fear, I've had the same thoughts. > You install hdparm if you want to tune your hard drive(s) for maximum > performance. It doesn't matter if you have a desktop or a laptop. If you > choose not to install hdparm on your desktop then you probably shouldn't be > forced to install it on your laptop. The reason I suggested it is that I don't use hdparm for tuning my hard-drive for performance, only for setting it to shut down after 30 seconds of inactivity, like my previous Win95 settings. So I've always thought of it as a power management tool, along with apmd. Would having the laptop-metapackage just suggest or recommend (can't remember which is lower) hdparm, but not depend on it be a better solution I wonder? MBG -- "Infinite: Bigger than the biggest thing ever and then some. Much bigger than that in fact, really amazingly immense, a totally stunning size, real "wow, that's big," time. Infinity is just so big that, by comparison, bigness itself looks really titchy. Gigantic multiplied by colossal multiplied by staggeringly huge is the sort of concept we're trying to get across here." -Douglas Adams 'The Restaurant at the End of the Universe' pgpYdorCT3d0f.pgp Description: PGP signature
Debian on an older laptop
Hi, I have an friend who wants to ditch windows and put linux on his laptop. I already have Debian installed on my Dell and it works fine, however I'm not sure if it's possible to install on his computer (Zenith Z-Note L425). The biggest problem is that he is without a CD drive, and only has a very slow modem (9600 bps). Is it possible to install most of a working system off of floppies? Would it be possible to easily transfer files between my computer and his using a serial cable? Would Debian even be the best choice for this machine? Thanks, MBG -- "Infinite: Bigger than the biggest thing ever and then some. Much bigger than that in fact, really amazingly immense, a totally stunning size, real "wow, that's big," time. Infinity is just so big that, by comparison, bigness itself looks really titchy. Gigantic multiplied by colossal multiplied by staggeringly huge is the sort of concept we're trying to get across here." -Douglas Adams 'The Restaurant at the End of the Universe' pgpmcFaoiL8Cx.pgp Description: PGP signature
Strange behaviour
I recently got a new laptop (Dell Inspiron 8200) and have installed testing on it and set up pretty much everything as I like it. However I've run into a problem that I haven't seen before which confounds all my attempts to sort it out. Basically, after a few days of uptime, it seems as though some processes stop working correctly, not starting properly and also refuse to quit or allow themselves to be killed. Specifically terminal windows (xterm, rxvt) open, but do not run a shell, and XEmacs also hangs midway through initialization. There are also numerous qmail-local processes stuck, but which refuse to be killed. Also, any PCMCIA cards I have in the machine work until they are ejected, but nothing happens when they are reinserted. I am still able to log in fine from the console, and the affected processes do not appear to be zombies, so I am at a loss as to what is going on under the hood. I compiled my own kernel (2.4.18) and tried some new options that I'd not used before such as devfs, ext3, alsa and hotplug support so I'm wondering if this could be a kernel problem. Anyone heard of something like this happening before? MBG -- Matthew GuentherHe who lives without folly is less wise [EMAIL PROTECTED] than he believes. http://www.attcanada.ca/~mguenthe/
Re: Strange behaviour
On Wed, Aug 21, 2002 at 03:56:38PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > > Err, you did read Documentation/filesystems/devfs/README, didn't you? > If not, recompile your kernel without devfs and I think your problems > will disappear. > Of course I read the README, I'm not insane! This page: http://www.rm-r.net/~meff/i8200/ Was my baseline instruction sheet and he described no problems with devfs so I figured it was okay. He used 2.4.19 however, so I may try upgrading and if the problem persists, turn off devfs. Thanks, MBG -- Matthew Guenther Kindness is the beginning of cruelty. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Muad'dib [Frank http://www.attcanada.ca/~mguenthe/ Herbert, "Dune"]
Re: Strange behaviour
On Thu, Aug 22, 2002 at 08:56:23AM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > > The one that came with kernel-source-2.4.18 right? Most (if not all) > of the symptoms you described can be traced to device access ... > The one that came with the kernel source, yes... however it doesn't refer to the type of difficulties I'm experiencing > > > > ?? His only reference to devfs was "If you use devfs you may need ...". It > > doesn't seem likely that he used it at all. I think you're going about this > > in the wrong order. Turn off devfs first, get it working, THEN try figuring > > out what to do to get devfs. Devfs is no more likely to work with your > > configuration on 2.4.19 than on an earlier kernel. > > The ONLY reference to devfs on that page reads: > > Note: If you use devfs you may need to make the device: mknod > /dev/hdb b 3 64 > I should have been more specific, the kernel config from the page has devfs enabled, from that and the lack of mention of any substantive issues I inferred that it would work fine. MBG -- Matthew Guenther Kindness is the beginning of cruelty. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Muad'dib [Frank http://www.attcanada.ca/~mguenthe/ Herbert, "Dune"]
Inspiron 8200 Alsa Problems
Hi, I have recently run into a problem with alsa on my Dell Inspiron 8200. It has an intel 810 sound system which was working fine under alsa with my self-compiled 2.6.5 kernel. However when I upgraded to a newer 2.6.7 kernel the sound stopped working. I did not change my .config between versions and the appropriate modules are being built, however the sound card is no longer detected. Looking through the kernel and alsa documentation did not turn up anything, nor have any similar problem reports shown up in google. I have tried everything I can think of including configuration changes, updating alsa libraries and modutils changes but nothing has worked. Does anyone have any idea what might be going on or suggestions for further information? Thanks, MBG -- Matthew Guenther Mechanical Engineering Graduate Researcher University of Victoria [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://antiflux.org/~mguenthe/
Re: Inspiron 8200 Alsa Problems
dircha wrote: You didn't mention it, so I'll ask. I have an Inspiron 8200 as well, and I'm running a self-compiled 2.6.7 kernel. Have you tried just the simple route of running alsaconf? alsaconf successfully configures my sound without a problem. > I did, as that has worked as well as you describe in the past for me also. However now after I select the intel8x0 driver it attempts to use alsamixer to raise the volume and I get a device not found error and nothing further happens. However I am much more hopeful now, at least there's someone with the same computer in a working configuration. Did you compile ALSA from the source shipped with the kernel or from the alsa-source package? Thanks, MBG -- Matthew Guenther Mechanical Engineering Graduate Researcher University of Victoria [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://antiflux.org/~mguenthe/
Re: Inspiron 8200 Alsa Problems
Bruno Muller wrote: However hotplug loads snd* modules ? I had this problem... booting with "pci=noacpi" works for me (see http://www.softlab.ece.ntua.gr/~amanous/Inspiron-Linux/#kernel) I tried your suggestion before heading off to work this morning and after a reboot the sound works as it did before, thanks! (As an aside: does this option hamper the suspend capabilities of the laptop?) Thanks again, MBG -- Matthew Guenther Mechanical Engineering Graduate Researcher University of Victoria [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://antiflux.org/~mguenthe/
Re: Problem getting ALSA working on Dell Inspiron 4150
Joe Emenaker wrote: Here are the quick facts: 1 - ALSA used to work. I don't know when it stopped working... if it was after a kernel upgrade or an upgrade in some of the alsa-tools or what. But now, I get no sound. I don't get any *errors*... I just don't get any sound. 2 - Typical problem in this case is that the volumes are all muted. However, in this case, if I run "alsamixer", I get "function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device". 3 - /proc/alsa/cards contains "--- no soundcards ---". 4 - OSS *does* work. (No, I don't want to use it because I can't get KDE and XMMS to use it at the same time) 5 - 'lsmod' shows that the intel8x0 *is* loaded... as well as soundcore, and a lot of other things that lsmod claims intel8x0 uses. Any ideas? This sounds pretty close to what happened to me with my Inspiron 8200 after a kernel upgrade, I posted a question here and got a response from Bruno Muller to try booting with "pci=noacpi" passed to the kernel. Everything works hunky-dory now, you might want to give it a shot. He also pointed out this website: http://www.softlab.ece.ntua.gr/~amanous/Inspiron-Linux/#kernel HTH, MBG -- Matthew Guenther Mechanical Engineering Graduate Researcher University of Victoria [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://antiflux.org/~mguenthe/
