Re: running debian on a laptop - Sony Vaio
I had been running Redhat 7.1 on my Vaio PCG-fx190 for nearly a year (I've been running redhat since it was the base to caldera preview 1) and when I replaced the noisy harddrive I tried installing Debian. There was a weird problem where it would not boot all of the way, but would just hang, this was right after installation, but that problem magically fixed itself. I also had a problem with my XF86Config file breaking, and a lot of my confusion in trying to fix that came from having a spare copy in /root that X was reading rather than the copy in /etc/X11. I have a page about running Linux on the vaio at: http://red4est.red4est.com/vaiodiva/ And have notes on running Debian on it at: http://red4est.red4est.com/vaiodiva/debian/ Hopefully my notes will help some other folks. I also set up a yahoo group for linux on the vaios at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/linuxpcgfx190/ I've got a wealth of questions myself about getting debian dialed in: If I run the screen at 1400x1050 with 16 bit color it is happy. But if I run it at 24 bits, at that resolution, I get vertical lines. What are the values that I need to tweak to deal with the vertical lines, or the horizontal line snow that I often see on poorly tuned X screens on LCDs? Is there some reason that SuperProbe doesn't seem to be available in the standard set of packages? Has anyone gotten sound to work on their Vaio? I hear that Emperor Linux has figured out all the configuration stuff for that, but they don't publish their configuration files. When in "text mode", the console only uses the center of the screen. What do I need to do to get it to use the whole screen, preferably in the smaller font so it has a lot more characters, but I'd be happy to have the same number of lines and columns in a larger font. -- I've found something worse than oldies station that play the music I used to listen to. Oldies stations that play the "new" music I used to complain about. [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.red4est.com/lrc
/etc/network/interfaces
I've been having a devil of a time trying to get /etc/network/interfaces working with mapping. The manpage theoretically shows how to set it up, but says that it needs a script in order to work. I can't find any documentation on what the script is supposed to do, or how to make it do it. -- I've found something worse than oldies station that play the music I used to listen to. Oldies stations that play the "new" music I used to complain about. [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.red4est.com/lrc
Re: Switching from static IP to DHCP
I've been wrestling with the same problem. It would work on static addresses, but if I tried the dhcp entry in /etc/network/interfaces eth0 would come up, but without an ipaddress. I finally looked at /var/log/syslog and it said to make sure that CONFIG_PACKET and CONFIG_FILTER are defined in the kernel. A quick kernel rebuild solved the problem. Now I've got to try and figure out how to change from network to network. the man page on interfaces seems to have about 80% of the information you need to actually get it to work. On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 12:14:26PM +, James Tappin wrote: > Hi. > I'm trying to change a laptop that is currently using static IP to use > DHCP instead. Which package do I need to reconfigure to do this. > (netbase and netenv don't seem to have the options to do that). > > TIA > James > > -- > ++---+-+ > | James Tappin | School of Physics & Astronomy | O__| > | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | University of Birmingham | -- \/` | > | Ph: 0121-414-6462. Fax: 0121-414-3722 | | > ++-+ > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I've found something worse than oldies station that play the music I used to listen to. Oldies stations that play the "new" music I used to complain about. [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.red4est.com/lrc
Realtek rtl-8180
Central computer has pcmcia wifi 802.11b cards for $40 which claim to work with Linux. When I went to install it, the drivers were compiled for the Redhat kernels. Th card is a ConnectGear We320 which uses the realtek rtl-8180 chipset. A bit of searching found this page: http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloads1-3.aspx?keyword=8180 Which has what purports to be source, but I'm having trouble getting it to make and load, much less talk. Does anyone else have any experience with the rtl-8180? For What It's Worth, I'm not even having any luck getting it to talk under windows either. My laptop is a Sony Vaio PCG-fx190k. It's been frustrating, because I thought I'd try to install alsa, and am just getting complaints about initrd. lrc -- I've found something worse than oldies station that play the music I used to listen to. Oldies stations that play the "new" music I used to complain about. [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.red4est.com/lrc
Getting wifi to work on my vaio with Debian
I've tried to RTFM, but all the howtos I've found either assume that I know something I don't, or are step by step recipies for a different system (step 1, download the RPMs), or are out of date. What are the basic steps for getting a pcmcia wireless card to work on a debian laptop? Find out what card the system thinks I have. Compile the module? twiddle some file so cardmgr is happy twiddle some other file so the networking system is happy . . . -- I've found something worse than oldies station that play the music I used to listen to. Oldies stations that play the "new" music I used to complain about. [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.red4est.com/lrc
Re: Getting wifi to work on my vaio with Debian
Last night I returned the ConnectGear card (I think it was a we320, it used the realtek rtl 1080 chipset) and bought an ambicom wl100-pc/pci card. It was $90, but it was the only other card at Central that claimed to work with Linux. There were a couple others that might have. I plugged it in and /var/log/messages said that it wanted to be eth1 so I copied my line for dhcp on eth0 and changed it to eth1 and the thing worked. Someone near Central even has an open wifi system so I was able to log on there. Unfortunately their firewall blocks ssh. Oh well. I still want to get my old Lucent PC24E-H-FC card working. It only has 64 bits of encryption so It won't work at the office, but with luck, it'll work at home. I don't know how to tell off hand if it's pcmcia or cardbus. If it's the former, it should work in my old Gatway Liberty laptop. Larry -- I've found something worse than oldies station that play the music I used to listen to. Oldies stations that play the "new" music I used to complain about. [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.red4est.com/lrc
Stolen laptop
My house was burglarized the other day. One of the things they got was my old Gateway Liberty Laptop. It's a 486-100, running debian. Computer name is "short". (my personal laptop was unsigned, which went well with .int. subnet at work). I doubt that the people who got it will be able to do anything with it. I haven't checked but they probably don't have the floppy drive for it or the cable for the scsi card. If someone brings you a little gateway liberty to try to get into, the model and serial number are: model:GSA4DX4100LBC($2753.00) serial: 0004803230 It has the "big" 800x600 display. So, if you find "short" please let both me and the police know. The case # is 03-5784 -- I've found something worse than oldies station that play the music I used to listen to. Oldies stations that play the "new" music I used to complain about. [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.red4est.com/lrc
Replacing Stolen laptop
Good news, it looks like homeowners insurance will buy me a "comparable" laptop to replacey my Gateway Liberty. I hope that they don't require my new one to be a 486. :) What I would be looking for is a small notebook, the Liberty was about 8 1/2 x 11 that runs well on Linux. Insurance would want it to be a "base model" as the Liberty didn't have a lot of features, besides its small size. Reccomendations? Units to avoid? Larry -- I've found something worse than oldies station that play the music I used to listen to. Oldies stations that play the "new" music I used to complain about. [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.red4est.com/lrc
Re: [svlug] Replacing Stolen laptop
On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 03:38:29PM -0700, Jeremy Zawodny wrote: > > > > Reccomendations? Units to avoid? > > What price range? I suspect that'll be a very important factor... It's kind of hard to get a straight answer out of them on that issue. They want me to show that the unit is comprable in features to the one I lost. The woman at the insurance company I talked to seemed to expect that there would be some bargaining involved. I might be able to say "This unit is comparable to the one I lost and costs $1500, but I want this one with these features for $2500, will you pay $1500 towards it?". I noticed that Emperorlinux.com has three laptops in that size range for around $1900. The Piranha (fujitsu p-2120) seems pretty nice: http://www.emperorlinux.com/piranha.html At the moment, what is important to me is: Reliable Able to get the insurance to pay for (most of) it Runs Linux Small size As many dots on the LCD as I can get The more research I can do, the better argument I can make for whatever one I want. Of course, what I would want to do is find both high and low prices so I can say: This one over here with almost no features costs $2500, but this other one, with the features I want is only $1900. Larry -- I've found something worse than oldies station that play the music I used to listen to. Oldies stations that play the "new" music I used to complain about. [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.red4est.com/lrc
Re: Stolen laptop
If you've got these features implemented, it wouldn't take much to turn it into something "general purpose" that: Woke up sniffed/characterized the network Checked against a table to see if it was a known network. If it's not a known network, it would send a message to a server saying: This is who I am, this is where I'm at. The server should probably work by intercepting port 80, or some other port that won't get firewalled off. If it was on a specific port, it would be too easy for people to just block outgoing traffic on that port. If the server has it on a list of "stolen machines" it could send back a message that says, "you've been stolen, tell me more" and the machine could do traceroutes, nmaps etc. and report back. If the machine isn't on the stolen list, at some appropriate time, when the user tries to bring up the network it could respond with a message: This is what I've learned about the network, I suggest that you configure this machine like this Like the guy said, suggestions are easy. On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 07:15:57PM -0400, Joseph Barillari wrote: > > "SM" == Steve McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > SM> On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 08:22:43PM -0400, Joseph Barillari > SM> wrote: > >> > >>> "SM" == Steve McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> > SM> I've been using the following for a while, which does just > SM> what you suggested. Run it out of /etc/ppp/ip-up.d and > SM> /etc/cron.daily and redirect the output to mail. This approach > SM> does need mail to work, which is another problem entirely. If > SM> you're on a foreign network or whatever, then mail may be > SM> awkward. I've set up the mail system on my laptop to batch > SM> things and send via home over ssh when available, which > SM> probably has a good chance of working in most places. > >> Does it require the thief to know how to bring up a PPP > >> connection? I would assume that most of the time, the laptop > >> might be booted once --- to see if it worked --- and then the > >> hard disk would probably be wiped, to make it harder to trace. > > SM> Good point, yes. Any suggestions on how to improve it? > > Sure -- suggestions are easy. I'd add a tiny network stack to the > bootloader and have it pull in an IP via DHCP as soon as it loads. An > even more aggressive approach would sniff the network for a few > seconds, briefly hijack an IP (in case there was no DHCP server), and > quickly report home with that IP address. > > Actually /implementing/ anything like that in a bootloader might be a > bit more difficult. > > As for PPP connections, given that it takes a non-trivial amount of > time to bring one up, I suspect there is little chance of bringing one > up clandestinely. Better to take advantage of any connection that the > user initiates. > > Best, --Joe > > -- > Joseph Barillari -- http://barillari.org -- I've found something worse than oldies station that play the music I used to listen to. Oldies stations that play the "new" music I used to complain about. [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.red4est.com/lrc
Re: Replacing Stolen laptop
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 12:05:06AM -0400, Mike Dresser wrote: > Was there anything else stolen? It seems like the hike in premimums over > a 25 dollar laptop is going to outweigh the value of getting a new laptop, > to me. New camcorder various accessories for the camcorder Two cameras several lenses the liberty my laptop from work cash -- I've found something worse than oldies station that play the music I used to listen to. Oldies stations that play the "new" music I used to complain about. [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.red4est.com/lrc
Re: Replacing Stolen laptop - Sony quality
It's funny. I've gotten several emails either extolling the virtues of Sony laptops, or warning me away from them as they are horrible, unreliable, evil machines. Is it a case that Sony outsources their machines, some model lines are well built and others are crap? I've got a PCG fx-190k that seems to be pretty solid, except that both the original and the replacement hard drives make way too much noise. Speaking of which, I'm planning on solving the noise problem and the space problem by putting in a larger (60g?) hard drive, with the plan of triple booting: Doze, Debian and RedHat (I'll be able to boot it in a configuration to annoy anyone). I'm interested in suggestions for good harddrives, and good places to get them. Larry -- I've found something worse than oldies station that play the music I used to listen to. Oldies stations that play the "new" music I used to complain about. [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.red4est.com/lrc
Re: running debian on a laptop - Sony Vaio
I had been running Redhat 7.1 on my Vaio PCG-fx190 for nearly a year (I've been running redhat since it was the base to caldera preview 1) and when I replaced the noisy harddrive I tried installing Debian. There was a weird problem where it would not boot all of the way, but would just hang, this was right after installation, but that problem magically fixed itself. I also had a problem with my XF86Config file breaking, and a lot of my confusion in trying to fix that came from having a spare copy in /root that X was reading rather than the copy in /etc/X11. I have a page about running Linux on the vaio at: http://red4est.red4est.com/vaiodiva/ And have notes on running Debian on it at: http://red4est.red4est.com/vaiodiva/debian/ Hopefully my notes will help some other folks. I also set up a yahoo group for linux on the vaios at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/linuxpcgfx190/ I've got a wealth of questions myself about getting debian dialed in: If I run the screen at 1400x1050 with 16 bit color it is happy. But if I run it at 24 bits, at that resolution, I get vertical lines. What are the values that I need to tweak to deal with the vertical lines, or the horizontal line snow that I often see on poorly tuned X screens on LCDs? Is there some reason that SuperProbe doesn't seem to be available in the standard set of packages? Has anyone gotten sound to work on their Vaio? I hear that Emperor Linux has figured out all the configuration stuff for that, but they don't publish their configuration files. When in "text mode", the console only uses the center of the screen. What do I need to do to get it to use the whole screen, preferably in the smaller font so it has a lot more characters, but I'd be happy to have the same number of lines and columns in a larger font. -- I've found something worse than oldies station that play the music I used to listen to. Oldies stations that play the "new" music I used to complain about. [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.red4est.com/lrc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
/etc/network/interfaces
I've been having a devil of a time trying to get /etc/network/interfaces working with mapping. The manpage theoretically shows how to set it up, but says that it needs a script in order to work. I can't find any documentation on what the script is supposed to do, or how to make it do it. -- I've found something worse than oldies station that play the music I used to listen to. Oldies stations that play the "new" music I used to complain about. [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.red4est.com/lrc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Switching from static IP to DHCP
I've been wrestling with the same problem. It would work on static addresses, but if I tried the dhcp entry in /etc/network/interfaces eth0 would come up, but without an ipaddress. I finally looked at /var/log/syslog and it said to make sure that CONFIG_PACKET and CONFIG_FILTER are defined in the kernel. A quick kernel rebuild solved the problem. Now I've got to try and figure out how to change from network to network. the man page on interfaces seems to have about 80% of the information you need to actually get it to work. On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 12:14:26PM +, James Tappin wrote: > Hi. > I'm trying to change a laptop that is currently using static IP to use > DHCP instead. Which package do I need to reconfigure to do this. > (netbase and netenv don't seem to have the options to do that). > > TIA > James > > -- > ++---+-+ > | James Tappin | School of Physics & Astronomy | O__| > | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | University of Birmingham | -- \/` | > | Ph: 0121-414-6462. Fax: 0121-414-3722 | | > ++-+ > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I've found something worse than oldies station that play the music I used to listen to. Oldies stations that play the "new" music I used to complain about. [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.red4est.com/lrc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Stolen laptop
My house was burglarized the other day. One of the things they got was my old Gateway Liberty Laptop. It's a 486-100, running debian. Computer name is "short". (my personal laptop was unsigned, which went well with .int. subnet at work). I doubt that the people who got it will be able to do anything with it. I haven't checked but they probably don't have the floppy drive for it or the cable for the scsi card. If someone brings you a little gateway liberty to try to get into, the model and serial number are: model:GSA4DX4100LBC($2753.00) serial: 0004803230 It has the "big" 800x600 display. So, if you find "short" please let both me and the police know. The case # is 03-5784 -- I've found something worse than oldies station that play the music I used to listen to. Oldies stations that play the "new" music I used to complain about. [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.red4est.com/lrc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Replacing Stolen laptop
Good news, it looks like homeowners insurance will buy me a "comparable" laptop to replacey my Gateway Liberty. I hope that they don't require my new one to be a 486. :) What I would be looking for is a small notebook, the Liberty was about 8 1/2 x 11 that runs well on Linux. Insurance would want it to be a "base model" as the Liberty didn't have a lot of features, besides its small size. Reccomendations? Units to avoid? Larry -- I've found something worse than oldies station that play the music I used to listen to. Oldies stations that play the "new" music I used to complain about. [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.red4est.com/lrc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [svlug] Replacing Stolen laptop
On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 03:38:29PM -0700, Jeremy Zawodny wrote: > > > > Reccomendations? Units to avoid? > > What price range? I suspect that'll be a very important factor... It's kind of hard to get a straight answer out of them on that issue. They want me to show that the unit is comprable in features to the one I lost. The woman at the insurance company I talked to seemed to expect that there would be some bargaining involved. I might be able to say "This unit is comparable to the one I lost and costs $1500, but I want this one with these features for $2500, will you pay $1500 towards it?". I noticed that Emperorlinux.com has three laptops in that size range for around $1900. The Piranha (fujitsu p-2120) seems pretty nice: http://www.emperorlinux.com/piranha.html At the moment, what is important to me is: Reliable Able to get the insurance to pay for (most of) it Runs Linux Small size As many dots on the LCD as I can get The more research I can do, the better argument I can make for whatever one I want. Of course, what I would want to do is find both high and low prices so I can say: This one over here with almost no features costs $2500, but this other one, with the features I want is only $1900. Larry -- I've found something worse than oldies station that play the music I used to listen to. Oldies stations that play the "new" music I used to complain about. [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.red4est.com/lrc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Stolen laptop
If you've got these features implemented, it wouldn't take much to turn it into something "general purpose" that: Woke up sniffed/characterized the network Checked against a table to see if it was a known network. If it's not a known network, it would send a message to a server saying: This is who I am, this is where I'm at. The server should probably work by intercepting port 80, or some other port that won't get firewalled off. If it was on a specific port, it would be too easy for people to just block outgoing traffic on that port. If the server has it on a list of "stolen machines" it could send back a message that says, "you've been stolen, tell me more" and the machine could do traceroutes, nmaps etc. and report back. If the machine isn't on the stolen list, at some appropriate time, when the user tries to bring up the network it could respond with a message: This is what I've learned about the network, I suggest that you configure this machine like this Like the guy said, suggestions are easy. On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 07:15:57PM -0400, Joseph Barillari wrote: > > "SM" == Steve McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > SM> On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 08:22:43PM -0400, Joseph Barillari > SM> wrote: > >> > >>> "SM" == Steve McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> > SM> I've been using the following for a while, which does just > SM> what you suggested. Run it out of /etc/ppp/ip-up.d and > SM> /etc/cron.daily and redirect the output to mail. This approach > SM> does need mail to work, which is another problem entirely. If > SM> you're on a foreign network or whatever, then mail may be > SM> awkward. I've set up the mail system on my laptop to batch > SM> things and send via home over ssh when available, which > SM> probably has a good chance of working in most places. > >> Does it require the thief to know how to bring up a PPP > >> connection? I would assume that most of the time, the laptop > >> might be booted once --- to see if it worked --- and then the > >> hard disk would probably be wiped, to make it harder to trace. > > SM> Good point, yes. Any suggestions on how to improve it? > > Sure -- suggestions are easy. I'd add a tiny network stack to the > bootloader and have it pull in an IP via DHCP as soon as it loads. An > even more aggressive approach would sniff the network for a few > seconds, briefly hijack an IP (in case there was no DHCP server), and > quickly report home with that IP address. > > Actually /implementing/ anything like that in a bootloader might be a > bit more difficult. > > As for PPP connections, given that it takes a non-trivial amount of > time to bring one up, I suspect there is little chance of bringing one > up clandestinely. Better to take advantage of any connection that the > user initiates. > > Best, --Joe > > -- > Joseph Barillari -- http://barillari.org -- I've found something worse than oldies station that play the music I used to listen to. Oldies stations that play the "new" music I used to complain about. [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.red4est.com/lrc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Replacing Stolen laptop
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 12:05:06AM -0400, Mike Dresser wrote: > Was there anything else stolen? It seems like the hike in premimums over > a 25 dollar laptop is going to outweigh the value of getting a new laptop, > to me. New camcorder various accessories for the camcorder Two cameras several lenses the liberty my laptop from work cash -- I've found something worse than oldies station that play the music I used to listen to. Oldies stations that play the "new" music I used to complain about. [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.red4est.com/lrc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Replacing Stolen laptop - Sony quality
It's funny. I've gotten several emails either extolling the virtues of Sony laptops, or warning me away from them as they are horrible, unreliable, evil machines. Is it a case that Sony outsources their machines, some model lines are well built and others are crap? I've got a PCG fx-190k that seems to be pretty solid, except that both the original and the replacement hard drives make way too much noise. Speaking of which, I'm planning on solving the noise problem and the space problem by putting in a larger (60g?) hard drive, with the plan of triple booting: Doze, Debian and RedHat (I'll be able to boot it in a configuration to annoy anyone). I'm interested in suggestions for good harddrives, and good places to get them. Larry -- I've found something worse than oldies station that play the music I used to listen to. Oldies stations that play the "new" music I used to complain about. [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.red4est.com/lrc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian Users...
Been to busy with work, didn't see this. I've been using fvwm for years. Now I'm running fvwm2. It has some features I really like and haven't seen easily in other desktops. Also the last time I tried another desktop it was so freaking slow, I couldn't stand it. Since I've been going through UI learning pangs on my new powerbook, I've been thinking of giving another desktop a try when I rebuild my desktop that just melted down. On Thu, Nov 20, 2003 at 01:29:27PM +1100, Tim Connors wrote: > On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Dutch wrote: > > > > > Just sorta takin an informal poll here... > > > > Debian users, > > -how many of you are running Gnome? > > > > -how many are running WindowMaker (me) > > > > -If not WM,then which windowmanager doyou use/prefer? > > Geez, no fvwm users yet? > (Not that I usually answer these polls) > > Of course, I have a setup I have been happy with for 6 years, so it was > only 6 months back that I decided to upgrade from fvwm1 to 2. > > > -- > TimC -- http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/staff/tconnors/ > I'm not a procrastinator! I'm temporally challenged! > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I've found something worse than oldies station that play the music I used to listen to. Oldies stations that play the "new" music I used to complain about. [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.red4est.com/lrc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
LILO vs. GRUB on debian install
I'm doing a debian (3.0r2) install on a system at work. To my surprise it didn't seem to give the opportunity to use grub as the bootloader, thought it did have a screen on the hazards of lilo. Did I miss something? -- I've found something worse than oldies station that play the music I used to listen to. Oldies stations that play the "new" music I used to complain about. [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.red4est.com/lrc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
List based subject line
I use this account for all my linux related mailing lists. All of the lists but this one have the list name at the start of the subject: ie. Subject: [debian-laptop] list based subject line I'd like to propose that this list do so as well. I can't be the only person who would find it a lot easier to sort out their mail (and get rid of spam) if this were done. Larry -- Get your kicks on 8.124038 Larry Colen [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.red4est.com/lrc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian Users...
Been to busy with work, didn't see this. I've been using fvwm for years. Now I'm running fvwm2. It has some features I really like and haven't seen easily in other desktops. Also the last time I tried another desktop it was so freaking slow, I couldn't stand it. Since I've been going through UI learning pangs on my new powerbook, I've been thinking of giving another desktop a try when I rebuild my desktop that just melted down. On Thu, Nov 20, 2003 at 01:29:27PM +1100, Tim Connors wrote: > On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Dutch wrote: > > > > > Just sorta takin an informal poll here... > > > > Debian users, > > -how many of you are running Gnome? > > > > -how many are running WindowMaker (me) > > > > -If not WM,then which windowmanager doyou use/prefer? > > Geez, no fvwm users yet? > (Not that I usually answer these polls) > > Of course, I have a setup I have been happy with for 6 years, so it was > only 6 months back that I decided to upgrade from fvwm1 to 2. > > > -- > TimC -- http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/staff/tconnors/ > I'm not a procrastinator! I'm temporally challenged! > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I've found something worse than oldies station that play the music I used to listen to. Oldies stations that play the "new" music I used to complain about. [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.red4est.com/lrc
LILO vs. GRUB on debian install
I'm doing a debian (3.0r2) install on a system at work. To my surprise it didn't seem to give the opportunity to use grub as the bootloader, thought it did have a screen on the hazards of lilo. Did I miss something? -- I've found something worse than oldies station that play the music I used to listen to. Oldies stations that play the "new" music I used to complain about. [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.red4est.com/lrc
List based subject line
I use this account for all my linux related mailing lists. All of the lists but this one have the list name at the start of the subject: ie. Subject: [debian-laptop] list based subject line I'd like to propose that this list do so as well. I can't be the only person who would find it a lot easier to sort out their mail (and get rid of spam) if this were done. Larry -- Get your kicks on 8.124038 Larry Colen [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.red4est.com/lrc
