samba and a bit of sound
Hello, I'm rather a newbie to Linux (and to this list) and I've been trying already some different distro's. In my opinion, Debian as (by far) the best one (I've tried RedHet, Slackware, which I didn't like and SuSe, which I think is also OK), but there are a few things I can't get right. I have both a desktop and a laptop... and after a few months, I would like to get everything working. I want to get to a network with a Windows NT server. I know I have to use samba, but again, some trouble. I didn't manage to mount the filesystem, so I looked for some tools and found one: xsmbrowser. With this thing, I'm able to connect so the server and read all the files etc, but I can't mount the filesystem, even not as root. I really have to be able to mount the filesystem, because I can't print if it's not mounted (I guess). So, it is surely possible to connect to the server and read the stuff, but I really want to know how I have to mount the whole filesystem. I have a password for my own directory (although if I use xsmbrowser, I can read everyones documents with that passwd, but that has something to do with some 'server things', I guess) and I have the password of the administrators (although I'm not really an administrator...). By the way, I also didn't manage to get sound to work. I get the message 'can't locate module snd' (using 'alsa'). I have compiled kernel 2.4.16 with some sound modules, but I can't 'insmod' all modules (or using 'modconf') I would like to. I try some of them, because I actually don't know exactly which ones I need on my laptop (Dell Inspiron 2650, integrated intell audio controller AC97 or something like that). Any help? Tnx, Kurt Sys.
Re: samba and a bit of sound
Anders Ellenshøj Andersen wrote: > On Thursday 26 December 2002 15:23, Kurt Sys wrote: >> etc, but I can't mount the filesystem, even not as root. I really >> have > > You need the smb filesystem kernel module loaded (modprobe smb iirc). > And the > smbfs package must be installed also. OK... problem found, I guess: # Can't locate module iirc What's the most 'simple' solution? Untill now, I just (re)compiled the kernel (the debian way) after i ran 'make menuconfig'... choosing 'all the things i thought i needed' (apparently, i 'forgot' some...) I'm quite a newbie, remember :-) >> By the way, I also didn't manage to get sound to work. I get the >> message 'can't locate module snd' (using 'alsa'). I have compiled >> kernel 2.4.16 > > Default sound system on 2.4.x kernel is OSS. Have you tried running > > # modconf I'm quite sure it isn't, mainly because I'm not sure which one I have to choose. I know it's SoundBlaster and Windows sound compatible (from website of Dell). However, if i try to 'modconf' the '100% soundblaster compatible' modules, it fails... I have this on my laptop, but actually also on my desktop (so it is not really a laptop-specific problem for me, although i have much more information about my soundcard of my desktop, i.e. i/o, irq, ...). I tried also with the OSS-stuff, but if i run alsaconf then, it complains 'can't locate module snd'. Do i really miss another module? (And where can i find it...) Kurt.
Re: samba and a bit of sound
Quoting Anders Ellenshøj Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Thursday 26 December 2002 17:20, Kurt Sys wrote: > > > OK... problem found, I guess: > > > > # Can't locate module iirc > > Sorry I should have know better than to be that imprecise. iirc is just > shorthand for if I remember correctly. Using the regular kernel its just > > # modprobe smb > OK... I'm sorry I didn't no that expression... I'll never forget it. But euh, smb is installed, as a module. And I installed several smb-packages too. It's just, I can read server-data if i use xsmbrowser, but mounting seems not to work... Is this 'normal'? > > I'm quite sure it isn't, mainly because I'm not sure which one I have > > to choose. I know it's SoundBlaster and Windows sound compatible (from > > website of Dell). However, if i try to 'modconf' the '100% soundblaster > > compatible' modules, it fails... I have this on my laptop, but actually > > Yeah.. That's not gonna work, I think. > > > also on my desktop (so it is not really a laptop-specific problem for > > me, although i have much more information about my soundcard of my > > desktop, i.e. i/o, irq, ...). > > I tried also with the OSS-stuff, but if i run alsaconf then, it > > complains 'can't locate module snd'. Do i really miss another module? > > (And where can i find it...) > > ALSA stands for Advanced Linux Sound Architechture. It's the next generation > sound api that is going into kernel 2.6 (hopefully). There is no alsa support > in the stock kernel sources from debian, so unless you get an alsa patch for > 2.4 from somewhere on the net, nothing that has anything to do with alsa is > ever going to work. Forget alsa until you get regular sound working. OK... I'll remember this too. It's just, many people advise me to use alsa. > Try compiling the kernel with the Intel sound driver (Intel ICH (i8xx), SiS > 7012, etc. etc.). If you compile it directly into the kernel it should be > activated at reboot. I'll try this, later on, but I think I already tried some of these. Does make a difference if i include as a module, or directlly into the kernel? I read sometimes that it's 'better' to compile the things as modules, but i have not really an idea why... Anyway, it's worth the effort. By the way, I always try to get things to work as root first. If that's working, I change permissions... I think this isn't really an issue here (since root has the right permissions), is it? tnx, Kurt.
Re: samba and a bit of sound
Anders Ellenshøj Andersen wrote: On Thursday 26 December 2002 17:55, Kurt Sys wrote: You really only need one package, "smbfs". I have that one, and also smbclient and some other, but apparently, I don't need these... Once that is installed you should be able to mount windows shares with: # mount -t smbfs "//hostname/sharename" localmountpath And that doesn't work: # 9xx: session request to xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx failed (Called name not present) # 9xx: session request to xxx failed (Called name not present) # Passwd: I give my password, or password of administrator # 9xx: session setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoacces (acces denied.) # SMB connection failed I get the same messages if I put '-o username=kurts' (kurts is my username on that server). I also tried different sharenames... And I use the IP-adress of the server, just to be sure. I'll try this, later on, but I think I already tried some of these. Does make a difference if i include as a module, or directlly into the kernel? I It makes the difference that you have to load the module before it can be used, either with modprobe or load it permanently with modconf. But both should work... and normally I use 'modconf'. With respect to my sound, it seems as if some modules cannot be loaded. read sometimes that it's 'better' to compile the things as modules, but i have not really an idea why... Anyway, it's worth the effort. If you compile you own kernel it is pretty much useless to compile modules, the advantage is mainly to distribution makers who can compile a range of basic drivers into the kernel and put all other drivers in as modules. That means you can keep the size of the kernel very small, but if you need extra drivers they can still be added without recompiling the kernel. That's putting it very simple ofcourse. But I shouldn't care about that, I guess, so compiling directly into the kernel is probably the better option for starters like me!? By the way, I always try to get things to work as root first. If that's working, I change permissions... I think this isn't really an issue here (since root has the right permissions), is it? I think that is a bad idea. You should only use the superuser account to configure the useraccount. That's just my rule of thumb. OK... But now back to the sound stuff: I tried different modules (with 'modconf') and found one which could be installed and which gave 'some' result. Some sounds sound ok, but at least as many sound bad, i.e. like there's some kind of a 'overdrive'. I try sounds using: # cat /somedir/somefile.wav > /dev/dsp I'm not sure if it matters, but I checked some 'parameters' (although I have actually not really an idea what they mean) in my win: IRQ=09 I/O=1C00 1CFF I/O=1880 18BF These last two seem to match if I 'do' # lspci -v # IO ports at 1c00 (size 256) # IO ports at 1880 (size 64) But the IRQ is different (IRQ 10). Anyway, thanks a lot already, Kurt.
Re: samba and a bit of sound
Glen Mehn wrote: Kurt Sys wrote: I'll try this, later on, but I think I already tried some of these. Does make a difference if i include as a module, or directlly into the kernel? I read sometimes that it's 'better' to compile the things as modules, but i have not really an idea why... Anyway, it's worth the effort. By the way, I always try to get things to work as root first. If that's working, I change permissions... I think this isn't really an issue here (since root has the right permissions), is it? tnx, Kurt. Try installing the 'sndconfig' package, and run it (as root). That should find your audio hardware. Or, simply use 'lspci' as root, and then google/search this list for debian support for that sound hardware (and kernel module) hope this helps... This helped a bit: I ran 'lspci -v' and found out some things. But sndconfig doesn't work, I tried that already some times. It sais something like: #you don't seem be running a kernel with modular sound #enabled.(soundcore.o was not found in the modular search path.) To use #sndconfig, you must be running a kernel with modular sound, such as #kernels shipped with Debian Linux or 2.2 or greater kernel. I have kernel 2.4.16 on my laptop and I have some sound modules installed... Tnx, Kurt.
Re: Dell Inspiron 8200
Hello, I had it installed on a Dell, although another one than yours (Dell 2650). Haven't got much trouble, certainly not 'Dell laptop-specific'. Kurt. Rolf Lindenbring wrote: Hi all, does anyone have experiance with installing woody on the dell ?? Rolf
Re: dselect sucks greasy cheese balls
Hello, To be honest, I had some troubles with dselect too... After I had some thing installed 'automatically' etc, it messed up my laptop once. OK, this might partially due to myself because of being 'unconcentrated'. I simply don't use dselect anymore. Just 'apt-get' thinks (or 'dpkg'), it works fine. Simple. No trouble. Kurt. Drew Parsons wrote: On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 11:56:45AM -0500, Paul King wrote: Dselect is now trying to make design decisions on my computer against my wishes. I thought only GatesWare did that. But I digress. I have installed WordPerfect Office 2000 on my laptop. dselect reports these as brokenly installed packages but the apps work fine. The next time I use dselect, it then wants to uninstall all of these so-called broken packages when I try to install something else. I suspect the "brokenness" is due to the fact that I am using Woody, and that WPO 2000 was designed back when Potato was the current Debian system. But the application is working fine, and dselect is uninstalling it!!! How do I stop it from doing this? There must be some way to over-ride these actions. You should be able to place it on "hold" by pressing '=' over the package when in the package selection window. But it might be constructive to tell us why exactly it's getting marked for deinstallation in case there's some underlying problem we should be aware of. dselect should give a list of packages that it's conflicting against, triggering the uninstall.
acpi
Hello, I have a laptop DELL 2650 and I try to get acpi to work on Debian Linux kernel 2.4.20, but it doesn't seem to be ok. Some things might work, some work not. In the first place, it would be nice if I would be able to read how much time I have left. If I use wmacpi, it always says that my 'battery is critical low'. So I change to acpi in console and the only thing I did is: # acpi -bast # battery 1: slot empty # no support for device type: thermal # AC Adapter 1: on-line If I unplug my adapter, the last line becomes 'off-line'. As far as I know, I should get more info at the line 'battery 1:', but apparently, I have not. What am I missing/doing wrong? thanks in advance, Kurt Sys
samba and a bit of sound
Hello, I'm rather a newbie to Linux (and to this list) and I've been trying already some different distro's. In my opinion, Debian as (by far) the best one (I've tried RedHet, Slackware, which I didn't like and SuSe, which I think is also OK), but there are a few things I can't get right. I have both a desktop and a laptop... and after a few months, I would like to get everything working. I want to get to a network with a Windows NT server. I know I have to use samba, but again, some trouble. I didn't manage to mount the filesystem, so I looked for some tools and found one: xsmbrowser. With this thing, I'm able to connect so the server and read all the files etc, but I can't mount the filesystem, even not as root. I really have to be able to mount the filesystem, because I can't print if it's not mounted (I guess). So, it is surely possible to connect to the server and read the stuff, but I really want to know how I have to mount the whole filesystem. I have a password for my own directory (although if I use xsmbrowser, I can read everyones documents with that passwd, but that has something to do with some 'server things', I guess) and I have the password of the administrators (although I'm not really an administrator...). By the way, I also didn't manage to get sound to work. I get the message 'can't locate module snd' (using 'alsa'). I have compiled kernel 2.4.16 with some sound modules, but I can't 'insmod' all modules (or using 'modconf') I would like to. I try some of them, because I actually don't know exactly which ones I need on my laptop (Dell Inspiron 2650, integrated intell audio controller AC97 or something like that). Any help? Tnx, Kurt Sys. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: samba and a bit of sound
Anders Ellenshøj Andersen wrote: > On Thursday 26 December 2002 15:23, Kurt Sys wrote: >> etc, but I can't mount the filesystem, even not as root. I really >> have > > You need the smb filesystem kernel module loaded (modprobe smb iirc). > And the > smbfs package must be installed also. OK... problem found, I guess: # Can't locate module iirc What's the most 'simple' solution? Untill now, I just (re)compiled the kernel (the debian way) after i ran 'make menuconfig'... choosing 'all the things i thought i needed' (apparently, i 'forgot' some...) I'm quite a newbie, remember :-) >> By the way, I also didn't manage to get sound to work. I get the >> message 'can't locate module snd' (using 'alsa'). I have compiled >> kernel 2.4.16 > > Default sound system on 2.4.x kernel is OSS. Have you tried running > > # modconf I'm quite sure it isn't, mainly because I'm not sure which one I have to choose. I know it's SoundBlaster and Windows sound compatible (from website of Dell). However, if i try to 'modconf' the '100% soundblaster compatible' modules, it fails... I have this on my laptop, but actually also on my desktop (so it is not really a laptop-specific problem for me, although i have much more information about my soundcard of my desktop, i.e. i/o, irq, ...). I tried also with the OSS-stuff, but if i run alsaconf then, it complains 'can't locate module snd'. Do i really miss another module? (And where can i find it...) Kurt. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: samba and a bit of sound
Quoting Anders Ellenshøj Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Thursday 26 December 2002 17:20, Kurt Sys wrote: > > > OK... problem found, I guess: > > > > # Can't locate module iirc > > Sorry I should have know better than to be that imprecise. iirc is just > shorthand for if I remember correctly. Using the regular kernel its just > > # modprobe smb > OK... I'm sorry I didn't no that expression... I'll never forget it. But euh, smb is installed, as a module. And I installed several smb-packages too. It's just, I can read server-data if i use xsmbrowser, but mounting seems not to work... Is this 'normal'? > > I'm quite sure it isn't, mainly because I'm not sure which one I have > > to choose. I know it's SoundBlaster and Windows sound compatible (from > > website of Dell). However, if i try to 'modconf' the '100% soundblaster > > compatible' modules, it fails... I have this on my laptop, but actually > > Yeah.. That's not gonna work, I think. > > > also on my desktop (so it is not really a laptop-specific problem for > > me, although i have much more information about my soundcard of my > > desktop, i.e. i/o, irq, ...). > > I tried also with the OSS-stuff, but if i run alsaconf then, it > > complains 'can't locate module snd'. Do i really miss another module? > > (And where can i find it...) > > ALSA stands for Advanced Linux Sound Architechture. It's the next generation > sound api that is going into kernel 2.6 (hopefully). There is no alsa support > in the stock kernel sources from debian, so unless you get an alsa patch for > 2.4 from somewhere on the net, nothing that has anything to do with alsa is > ever going to work. Forget alsa until you get regular sound working. OK... I'll remember this too. It's just, many people advise me to use alsa. > Try compiling the kernel with the Intel sound driver (Intel ICH (i8xx), SiS > 7012, etc. etc.). If you compile it directly into the kernel it should be > activated at reboot. I'll try this, later on, but I think I already tried some of these. Does make a difference if i include as a module, or directlly into the kernel? I read sometimes that it's 'better' to compile the things as modules, but i have not really an idea why... Anyway, it's worth the effort. By the way, I always try to get things to work as root first. If that's working, I change permissions... I think this isn't really an issue here (since root has the right permissions), is it? tnx, Kurt. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: samba and a bit of sound
Anders Ellenshøj Andersen wrote: On Thursday 26 December 2002 17:55, Kurt Sys wrote: You really only need one package, "smbfs". I have that one, and also smbclient and some other, but apparently, I don't need these... Once that is installed you should be able to mount windows shares with: # mount -t smbfs "//hostname/sharename" localmountpath And that doesn't work: # 9xx: session request to xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx failed (Called name not present) # 9xx: session request to xxx failed (Called name not present) # Passwd: I give my password, or password of administrator # 9xx: session setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoacces (acces denied.) # SMB connection failed I get the same messages if I put '-o username=kurts' (kurts is my username on that server). I also tried different sharenames... And I use the IP-adress of the server, just to be sure. I'll try this, later on, but I think I already tried some of these. Does make a difference if i include as a module, or directlly into the kernel? I It makes the difference that you have to load the module before it can be used, either with modprobe or load it permanently with modconf. But both should work... and normally I use 'modconf'. With respect to my sound, it seems as if some modules cannot be loaded. read sometimes that it's 'better' to compile the things as modules, but i have not really an idea why... Anyway, it's worth the effort. If you compile you own kernel it is pretty much useless to compile modules, the advantage is mainly to distribution makers who can compile a range of basic drivers into the kernel and put all other drivers in as modules. That means you can keep the size of the kernel very small, but if you need extra drivers they can still be added without recompiling the kernel. That's putting it very simple ofcourse. But I shouldn't care about that, I guess, so compiling directly into the kernel is probably the better option for starters like me!? By the way, I always try to get things to work as root first. If that's working, I change permissions... I think this isn't really an issue here (since root has the right permissions), is it? I think that is a bad idea. You should only use the superuser account to configure the useraccount. That's just my rule of thumb. OK... But now back to the sound stuff: I tried different modules (with 'modconf') and found one which could be installed and which gave 'some' result. Some sounds sound ok, but at least as many sound bad, i.e. like there's some kind of a 'overdrive'. I try sounds using: # cat /somedir/somefile.wav > /dev/dsp I'm not sure if it matters, but I checked some 'parameters' (although I have actually not really an idea what they mean) in my win: IRQ=09 I/O=1C00 1CFF I/O=1880 18BF These last two seem to match if I 'do' # lspci -v # IO ports at 1c00 (size 256) # IO ports at 1880 (size 64) But the IRQ is different (IRQ 10). Anyway, thanks a lot already, Kurt. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: samba and a bit of sound
Glen Mehn wrote: Kurt Sys wrote: I'll try this, later on, but I think I already tried some of these. Does make a difference if i include as a module, or directlly into the kernel? I read sometimes that it's 'better' to compile the things as modules, but i have not really an idea why... Anyway, it's worth the effort. By the way, I always try to get things to work as root first. If that's working, I change permissions... I think this isn't really an issue here (since root has the right permissions), is it? tnx, Kurt. Try installing the 'sndconfig' package, and run it (as root). That should find your audio hardware. Or, simply use 'lspci' as root, and then google/search this list for debian support for that sound hardware (and kernel module) hope this helps... This helped a bit: I ran 'lspci -v' and found out some things. But sndconfig doesn't work, I tried that already some times. It sais something like: #you don't seem be running a kernel with modular sound #enabled.(soundcore.o was not found in the modular search path.) To use #sndconfig, you must be running a kernel with modular sound, such as #kernels shipped with Debian Linux or 2.2 or greater kernel. I have kernel 2.4.16 on my laptop and I have some sound modules installed... Tnx, Kurt. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dell Inspiron 8200
Hello, I had it installed on a Dell, although another one than yours (Dell 2650). Haven't got much trouble, certainly not 'Dell laptop-specific'. Kurt. Rolf Lindenbring wrote: Hi all, does anyone have experiance with installing woody on the dell ?? Rolf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dselect sucks greasy cheese balls
Hello, To be honest, I had some troubles with dselect too... After I had some thing installed 'automatically' etc, it messed up my laptop once. OK, this might partially due to myself because of being 'unconcentrated'. I simply don't use dselect anymore. Just 'apt-get' thinks (or 'dpkg'), it works fine. Simple. No trouble. Kurt. Drew Parsons wrote: On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 11:56:45AM -0500, Paul King wrote: Dselect is now trying to make design decisions on my computer against my wishes. I thought only GatesWare did that. But I digress. I have installed WordPerfect Office 2000 on my laptop. dselect reports these as brokenly installed packages but the apps work fine. The next time I use dselect, it then wants to uninstall all of these so-called broken packages when I try to install something else. I suspect the "brokenness" is due to the fact that I am using Woody, and that WPO 2000 was designed back when Potato was the current Debian system. But the application is working fine, and dselect is uninstalling it!!! How do I stop it from doing this? There must be some way to over-ride these actions. You should be able to place it on "hold" by pressing '=' over the package when in the package selection window. But it might be constructive to tell us why exactly it's getting marked for deinstallation in case there's some underlying problem we should be aware of. dselect should give a list of packages that it's conflicting against, triggering the uninstall. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
acpi
Hello, I have a laptop DELL 2650 and I try to get acpi to work on Debian Linux kernel 2.4.20, but it doesn't seem to be ok. Some things might work, some work not. In the first place, it would be nice if I would be able to read how much time I have left. If I use wmacpi, it always says that my 'battery is critical low'. So I change to acpi in console and the only thing I did is: # acpi -bast # battery 1: slot empty # no support for device type: thermal # AC Adapter 1: on-line If I unplug my adapter, the last line becomes 'off-line'. As far as I know, I should get more info at the line 'battery 1:', but apparently, I have not. What am I missing/doing wrong? thanks in advance, Kurt Sys -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
