Re: it is avahi? Re: network
I have been reading recommended texts how to do network setup. 1) Chapter 5. Network setup has got one notice telling something about 'wheezy'. Maybe the problem has something to do with my upgrade to the latest stable: It says: Tip Although this document still uses old ifconfig(8) with IPv4 for its network configuration examples, Debian is moving to ip(8) with IPv4+IPv6 in the wheezy release. Patches to update this document are welcomed. 2) I tried to do some fixing and etc/hosts looks now like this: 127.0.0.1 localhost 127.0.1.1 gone.thusgone # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts ::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback fe00::0 ip6-localnet ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix ff02::1 ip6-allnodes ff02::2 ip6-allrouters --- 4) But still avahi is telling the same message about the network configuration being .local, which is not the recommended way. Where is that .local setup existing? 5) Does anybody know if the problem has really most to do with my laptop configuration or with my new ZyXEL modem? -hv > > From: Sebastian Salvino >To: Michael >Cc: debian-laptop@lists.debian.org >Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 2:59 AM >Subject: Re: it is avahi? Re: network > > > >You'll have to edit your /etc/hosts file to reflect a different domain. >Hope it helps! >On Jun 24, 2013 8:44 PM, "Michael" wrote: > >But ugh, that's a lot of stuff to study, when the problem may be rather >trivial. >> >>How about try reinstalling all avahi packages. (Using a package manager, >>check anything with *avahi* in their names.) >> >>I recommend to move to Debian 'testing' anyway (i.e. upgrade) except your >>laptop is way old. I bet the upgrade fixes the error message. >> >> >>-- >>To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-laptop-requ...@lists.debian.org >>with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org >>Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130625014353.46e09...@mirrors.kernel.org >> >> > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-laptop-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1372149367.82211.yahoomail...@web161301.mail.bf1.yahoo.com
Re: it is avahi? Re: network
On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 01:36:07AM -0700, Hannu Virtanen wrote: > But still avahi is telling the same message about the network configuration > being .local, which is not the recommended way. Where is that .local setup > existing? At the DNS servers you are using. -- WBR, wRAR -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-laptop-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130625084947.gb31...@belkar.wrar.name
Re: it is avahi? Re: network
From: Andrey Rahmatullin : But still avahi is telling the same message about the network configuration >> being .local, which is not the recommended way. Where is that .local setup > existing? > At the DNS servers you are using Do you mean that I should look for DNS servers? Where are they residing in debian wheezy? -hv - Original Message - > From: Andrey Rahmatullin > To: debian-laptop@lists.debian.org > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 11:49 AM > Subject: Re: it is avahi? Re: network > > On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 01:36:07AM -0700, Hannu Virtanen wrote: >> But still avahi is telling the same message about the network configuration > being .local, which is not the recommended way. Where is that .local setup > existing? > At the DNS servers you are using. > > -- > WBR, wRAR > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-laptop-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130625084947.gb31...@belkar.wrar.name > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-laptop-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1372154748.317.yahoomail...@web161305.mail.bf1.yahoo.com
Re: it is avahi? Re: network
Here are some basic file contents concerning the Network Setup. - less /etc/hostname gone /etc/hostname (END) -- less /etc/hosts 127.0.0.1 localhost 127.0.1.1 gone.thusgone # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts ::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback fe00::0 ip6-localnet ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix ff02::1 ip6-allnodes ff02::2 ip6-allrouters /etc/hosts (END) - less /etc/resolv.conf # Generated by NetworkManager domain Home search Home nameserver 192.168.1.1 --- --- - Original Message - > From: Hannu Virtanen > To: "debian-laptop@lists.debian.org" > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 1:05 PM > Subject: Re: it is avahi? Re: network > > > > From: Andrey Rahmatullin : > > > > But still avahi is telling the same message about the network configuration >>> being .local, which is not the recommended way. Where is that .local > setup >> existing? > > >> At the DNS servers you are using > > > > > Do you mean that I should look for DNS servers? > > > Where are they residing in debian wheezy? > > > -hv -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-laptop-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1372155416.74289.yahoomail...@web161304.mail.bf1.yahoo.com
Re: it is avahi? Re: network
On 24.06.13 13:50, Hannu Virtanen wrote: thanks for the messages. The thing is that the network works. But it is complaining that something is configured .local. Do you know if it is my computer or is it the vdsl modem? look at the deomain setting on your router. -- Matus UHLAR - fantomas, uh...@fantomas.sk ; http://www.fantomas.sk/ Warning: I wish NOT to receive e-mail advertising to this address. Varovanie: na tuto adresu chcem NEDOSTAVAT akukolvek reklamnu postu. BSE = Mad Cow Desease ... BSA = Mad Software Producents Desease -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-laptop-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130625110848.ga20...@fantomas.sk
Re: it is avahi? Re: network
Hannu, just curious, how did you translate 'region' (in the error message) ? Is the original finnish (?) word a technical term and what does it refer to exactly. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-laptop-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130625142856.2c361...@mirrors.kernel.org
Re: it is avahi? Re: network
j> ust curious, how did you translate 'region' (in the error > message) ? > Is the original finnish (?) word a technical term and what does it refer to > exactly. The original Finnish: 'Nykyisen verkkosi toimialue on .local'. At present my system doesn't give all error messages in English. Some debian experts might know what the original English term is??? with best, -hv - Original Message - > From: Michael > To: debian-laptop@lists.debian.org > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 3:28 PM > Subject: Re: it is avahi? Re: network > > Hannu, just curious, how did you translate 'region' (in the error > message) ? > Is the original finnish (?) word a technical term and what does it refer to > exactly. > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-laptop-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130625142856.2c361...@mirrors.kernel.org > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-laptop-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1372166081.54151.yahoomail...@web161304.mail.bf1.yahoo.com
Re: it is avahi? Re: network
"zzz might know what the original English term is???" I guess 'toimialue' is 'domain' in English. -hv - Original Message - > From: Hannu Virtanen > To: Michael ; "debian-laptop@lists.debian.org" > > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 4:14 PM > Subject: Re: it is avahi? Re: network > > j> ust curious, how did you translate 'region' (in the error >> message) ? >> Is the original finnish (?) word a technical term and what does it refer to > >> exactly. > > > The original Finnish: > > 'Nykyisen verkkosi toimialue on .local'. > > At present my system doesn't give all error messages in English. > Some debian experts might know what the original English term is??? > > with best, > > -hv > > > > > - Original Message - >> From: Michael >> To: debian-laptop@lists.debian.org >> Cc: >> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 3:28 PM >> Subject: Re: it is avahi? Re: network >> >> Hannu, just curious, how did you translate 'region' (in the error >> message) ? >> Is the original finnish (?) word a technical term and what does it refer to > >> exactly. >> >> >> -- >> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-laptop-requ...@lists.debian.org >> with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact >> listmas...@lists.debian.org >> Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130625142856.2c361...@mirrors.kernel.org >> > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-laptop-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: > http://lists.debian.org/1372166081.54151.yahoomail...@web161304.mail.bf1.yahoo.com > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-laptop-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1372167209.32452.yahoomail...@web161303.mail.bf1.yahoo.com
Re: it is avahi? Re: network
http://avahi.org/wiki/AvahiAndUnicastDotLocal On Jun 25, 2013 10:33 AM, "Hannu Virtanen" wrote: > "zzz might know what the original English term is???" > > I guess 'toimialue' is 'domain' in English. > > > -hv > > > > - Original Message - > > From: Hannu Virtanen > > To: Michael ; "debian-laptop@lists.debian.org" < > debian-laptop@lists.debian.org> > > Cc: > > Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 4:14 PM > > Subject: Re: it is avahi? Re: network > > > > j> ust curious, how did you translate 'region' (in the error > >> message) ? > >> Is the original finnish (?) word a technical term and what does it > refer to > > > >> exactly. > > > > > > The original Finnish: > > > > 'Nykyisen verkkosi toimialue on .local'. > > > > At present my system doesn't give all error messages in English. > > Some debian experts might know what the original English term is??? > > > > with best, > > > > -hv > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > >> From: Michael > >> To: debian-laptop@lists.debian.org > >> Cc: > >> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 3:28 PM > >> Subject: Re: it is avahi? Re: network > >> > >> Hannu, just curious, how did you translate 'region' (in the error > >> message) ? > >> Is the original finnish (?) word a technical term and what does it > refer to > > > >> exactly. > >> > >> > >> -- > >> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-laptop-requ...@lists.debian.org > >> with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > >> listmas...@lists.debian.org > >> Archive: > http://lists.debian.org/20130625142856.2c361...@mirrors.kernel.org > >> > > > > > > -- > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-laptop-requ...@lists.debian.org > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > > listmas...@lists.debian.org > > Archive: > > > http://lists.debian.org/1372166081.54151.yahoomail...@web161304.mail.bf1.yahoo.com > > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-laptop-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: > http://lists.debian.org/1372167209.32452.yahoomail...@web161303.mail.bf1.yahoo.com > >
Re: it is avahi? Re: network
Several times I have found the suggestion that I should add the line: domain-name=.alocal at the avahi-daemon.conf That advice is available at: http://avahi.org/wiki/AvahiAndUnicastDotLocal --- I have done it already a few times. And it doesn't help. Here is my avahi-daemon.conf $:/etc/avahi# less avahi-daemon.conf # This file is part of avahi. # # avahi is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it # under the terms of the GNU Lesser General Public License as # published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 of the # License, or (at your option) any later version. # # avahi is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but WITHOUT # ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of MERCHANTABILITY # or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the GNU General Public # License for more details. # # You should have received a copy of the GNU Lesser General Public # License along with avahi; if not, write to the Free Software # Foundation, Inc., 59 Temple Place, Suite 330, Boston, MA 02111-1307 # USA. # See avahi-daemon.conf(5) for more information on this configuration # file! [server] #host-name=foo #domain-name=local domain-name=.alocal #browse-domains=0pointer.de, zeroconf.org use-ipv4=yes use-ipv6=yes #allow-interfaces=eth0 #deny-interfaces=eth1 #check-response-ttl=no #use-iff-running=no #enable-dbus=yes #disallow-other-stacks=no #allow-point-to-point=no #cache-entries-max=4096 #clients-max=4096 #objects-per-client-max=1024 #entries-per-entry-group-max=32 ratelimit-interval-usec=100 ratelimit-burst=1000 [wide-area] enable-wide-area=yes [publish] #disable-publishing=no #disable-user-service-publishing=no #add-service-cookie=no #publish-addresses=yes #publish-hinfo=yes #publish-workstation=yes #publish-domain=yes #publish-dns-servers=192.168.50.1, 192.168.50.2 #publish-resolv-conf-dns-servers=yes #publish--on-ipv4=yes #publish-a-on-ipv6=no [reflector] #enable-reflector=no #reflect-ipv=no [rlimits] #rlimit-as= rlimit-core=0 rlimit-data=4194304 rlimit-fsize=0 rlimit-nofile=768 rlimit-stack=4194304 rlimit-nproc=3 ~ ~ (END) - Something seems to be wrong with that advice. -hv P.S. I think that I should reconfigure the network... > > From: Sebastian Salvino >To: Hannu Virtanen >Cc: debian-laptop@lists.debian.org; Michael >Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 6:07 PM >Subject: Re: it is avahi? Re: network > > > >http://avahi.org/wiki/AvahiAndUnicastDotLocal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-laptop-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1372178645.25398.yahoomail...@web161305.mail.bf1.yahoo.com
Re: it is avahi? Re: network
Hannu, The only things a fresh avahi-daemon installation puts into the config (that is, not commented) are: [server] use-ipv4=yes use-ipv6=yes ratelimit-interval-usec=100 ratelimit-burst=1000 [wide-area] enable-wide-area=yes [publish] [reflector] [rlimits] rlimit-core=0 rlimit-data=4194304 rlimit-fsize=0 rlimit-nofile=768 rlimit-stack=4194304 rlimit-nproc=3 If there was a domain name default, it would be "domain-name=local" (but commented out), without dot. But it will be derived from your hostname anyway. So maybe try commenting (disabling) any domain setup. If any, it should be something like 'gone.local' if gone is your machine. Check the /etc/avahi/hosts file too. My version has commented examples, only: # Examples: # 192.168.0.1 router.local # 2001::81:1 test.local so i guess it should work w/o any manual explicit configuration too. Also check if you got libnss-mdns installed, which is recommended by avahi. I am sorry i can not easily check how it works w/o manual configuration. I just can't remember any installation asked me anything about it so i guess the defaults should work out of the box. I deinstalled any avahi services on all machines in this small intranet because we don't seem to have any need for it, and we didn't miss anything afterwards. For example, i don't understand why laptops need a avahi-daemon, or rather, why avahi-discover should be depending on the daemon. Do you really want to publish your laptop 'files to access' in a mixed environment ? We have one printer and it seems network access via IPP works fine even without avahi. I guess a roaming laptop or smartphone could benefit in some trusted environment though. But seriously, in which business or university environment do you send off a printing job from your laptop without first being granted explicit access to the printer ? I admit i am oldfashioned and do not understand any modern usages of multicast dns. Well. in your situation, i would deinstall (with complete 'purge') anything with 'avahi' in its name, except it breaks essential other packages (for example, cups and gvfs need some avahi libs), especially the daemon. Then, i'd check if something i need does not work anymore. If so, reinstall avahi-discover. With luck, the error will be gone with a new package default config. It should be noted that such a task needs some experience (or boldness) with 'apt-get' or a good package manager. It's rather easy, and safe, if you know how to use 'aptitude'. If you configured things manually, and want to preserve the config, don't use 'purge'. Keep in mind that even if you deinstalled half your system, it can be reinstalled in a few moments, if only you keep track of what was removed (for example, the /var/log/aptitude). gl mi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-laptop-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130625200440.0d571...@mirrors.kernel.org
Re: it is avahi? Re: network
Please email back the output of: dig local. SOA On Jun 25, 2013 3:05 PM, "Michael" wrote: > Hannu, > > The only things a fresh avahi-daemon installation puts into the config > (that is, not commented) are: > > [server] > use-ipv4=yes > use-ipv6=yes > ratelimit-interval-usec=100 > ratelimit-burst=1000 > > [wide-area] > enable-wide-area=yes > > [publish] > > [reflector] > > [rlimits] > rlimit-core=0 > rlimit-data=4194304 > rlimit-fsize=0 > rlimit-nofile=768 > rlimit-stack=4194304 > rlimit-nproc=3 > > If there was a domain name default, it would be "domain-name=local" (but > commented out), without dot. But it will be derived from your hostname > anyway. > > So maybe try commenting (disabling) any domain setup. If any, it should be > something like 'gone.local' if gone is your machine. > > Check the /etc/avahi/hosts file too. My version has commented examples, > only: > # Examples: > # 192.168.0.1 router.local > # 2001::81:1 test.local > > so i guess it should work w/o any manual explicit configuration too. > > Also check if you got libnss-mdns installed, which is recommended by avahi. > > I am sorry i can not easily check how it works w/o manual configuration. I > just can't remember any installation asked me anything about it so i guess > the defaults should work out of the box. > > I deinstalled any avahi services on all machines in this small intranet > because we don't seem to have any need for it, and we didn't miss anything > afterwards. For example, i don't understand why laptops need a > avahi-daemon, or rather, why avahi-discover should be depending on the > daemon. Do you really want to publish your laptop 'files to access' in a > mixed environment ? > > We have one printer and it seems network access via IPP works fine even > without avahi. I guess a roaming laptop or smartphone could benefit in some > trusted environment though. But seriously, in which business or university > environment do you send off a printing job from your laptop without first > being granted explicit access to the printer ? > I admit i am oldfashioned and do not understand any modern usages of > multicast dns. > > Well. in your situation, i would deinstall (with complete 'purge') > anything with 'avahi' in its name, except it breaks essential other > packages (for example, cups and gvfs need some avahi libs), especially the > daemon. Then, i'd check if something i need does not work anymore. If so, > reinstall avahi-discover. With luck, the error will be gone with a new > package default config. > > It should be noted that such a task needs some experience (or boldness) > with 'apt-get' or a good package manager. It's rather easy, and safe, if > you know how to use 'aptitude'. If you configured things manually, and want > to preserve the config, don't use 'purge'. Keep in mind that even if you > deinstalled half your system, it can be reinstalled in a few moments, if > only you keep track of what was removed (for example, the > /var/log/aptitude). > > > gl mi > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-laptop-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: > http://lists.debian.org/20130625200440.0d571...@mirrors.kernel.org > >
