NVIDIA GeForce 9200M GS?

[Nima Azarbayjany]

Dear all,

I am planning to buy a new HP notebook.  The model that has caught my eyes
comes with an "NVIDIA GeForce 9200M GS" graphics card.  Can any one tell me
how well is this graphics card supported under Lenny?  Is it possible to
have compiz running on this graphics card?  I did some search on this but I
am really confused.  Some say yes and some say no.

Thanks,
Nima

Re: NVIDIA GeForce 9200M GS?

[Bret Busby]

On Wed, 11 Mar 2009, Nima Azarbayjany wrote:



Dear all,

I am planning to buy a new HP notebook.  The model that has caught my eyes
comes with an "NVIDIA GeForce 9200M GS" graphics card.  Can any one tell me
how well is this graphics card supported under Lenny?  Is it possible to
have compiz running on this graphics card?  I did some search on this but I
am really confused.  Some say yes and some say no.

Thanks,
Nima



My answer is simple; I suggest that you download and write a LiveCD 
image, and try running it in the computer that you want to buy.


It is a fairly good way to find whether components such as the graphics 
card, are compatible.


--
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Armadale
West Australia
..

"So once you do know what the question actually is,
 you'll know what the answer means."
- Deep Thought,
  Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
  "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
  A Trilogy In Four Parts",
  written by Douglas Adams,
  published by Pan Books, 1992




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Re: NVIDIA GeForce 9200M GS?

[Nima Azarbayjany]

I did in fact thought of doing this but it is not doable for me.  What is
the most general way of determining whether a specific piece of hardware is
supported by Debian?  Things on the web seem quite confusing to me.

Thanks.


On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Bret Busby  wrote:

> On Wed, 11 Mar 2009, Nima Azarbayjany wrote:
>
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I am planning to buy a new HP notebook.  The model that has caught my eyes
>> comes with an "NVIDIA GeForce 9200M GS" graphics card.  Can any one tell
>> me
>> how well is this graphics card supported under Lenny?  Is it possible to
>> have compiz running on this graphics card?  I did some search on this but
>> I
>> am really confused.  Some say yes and some say no.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Nima
>>
>>
> My answer is simple; I suggest that you download and write a LiveCD image,
> and try running it in the computer that you want to buy.
>
> It is a fairly good way to find whether components such as the graphics
> card, are compatible.
>
> --
> Bret Busby
> Armadale
> West Australia
> ..
>
> "So once you do know what the question actually is,
>  you'll know what the answer means."
> - Deep Thought,
>  Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
>  "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
>  A Trilogy In Four Parts",
>  written by Douglas Adams,
>  published by Pan Books, 1992
>
> 
>
>
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Re: NVIDIA GeForce 9200M GS?

[Bob Proulx]

Nima Azarbayjany wrote:
> I did in fact thought of doing this but it is not doable for me.  What is
> the most general way of determining whether a specific piece of hardware is
> supported by Debian?  Things on the web seem quite confusing to me.

Debian uses the Linux kernel (the Linux in Debian GNU/Linux!) and
therefore supports pretty much everything the upstream Linux kernel
supports.  It is the same kernel.  That much is pretty simple.  The
patches applied specifically for Debian are rather small by comparison
to most other distros.

The first point where it gets confusing is when a hardware driver's
distribution license legally prevents it from being freely
distributed.  Debian will be legally bound in that case and can't
distribute the driver even if one exists.

The second often confusing point is when a driver exists but only in a
non-free format.  Again in this case Debian won't distribute it
because it conflicts with a basic rule of Debian's "Social Contract"
which is that "Debian will remain 100% free".  This is a stand that is
taken because Debian feels it important enough to do.  As a political
topic this issue gets a *lot* of discussion on the debian-devel
mailing list, please let's not debate it here.  But please do read
Debian's Social Contract to understand the published rules.

  http://www.debian.org/social_contract

Having said all of that the nvidia driver isn't a free driver.  This
is why it can't be installed automatically at debian-installer time.
It has previously been made available in the non-free repository.  You
would need to specifically install it from non-free if you wanted it.
The non-free repository officially isn't part of Debian.  It is a
contribution.  But it is there nonetheless.  NVIDIA uses the linux
driver themselves and therefore it has generally been of good quality.

So in my mind the best question to ask is whether the nvidia driver in
non-free is new enough to support the 9200M GS.  If so then it should
work.  I would expect that it would work.  The PTS page at
http://packages.qa.debian.org/n/nvidia-graphics-drivers.html lists
the current version in Lenny at 173.14.09.  A posting here at
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NjUxNA says that
173.14.05 and later should support GeForce 9 Mobile parts.  Better
would be to find a report of someone else who has the same machine
hardware and has reviewed it for compatibility.

The wiki page at http://wiki.debian.org/DeviceDatabase/PCI lists the
free nv driver (perhaps not what you want) as working on the 9200.
The nvidia page at http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_18897.html lists
the GeForce 9200M GS 0x06E8 as supported.

If you decide to try it please post your results.  Then when the
next person searches for this combination they will get a review
noting it as either success or failure.

Good luck!

Bob


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Re: NVIDIA GeForce 9200M GS?

[Gireesh Sreekantan]

On Thu, 2009-03-12 at 01:29 +0900, Bret Busby wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Mar 2009, Nima Azarbayjany wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I am planning to buy a new HP notebook.  The model that has caught my eyes
> > comes with an "NVIDIA GeForce 9200M GS" graphics card.  Can any one tell me
> > how well is this graphics card supported under Lenny?  Is it possible to
> > have compiz running on this graphics card?  I did some search on this but I
> > am really confused.  Some say yes and some say no.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Nima
> >
> 
> My answer is simple; I suggest that you download and write a LiveCD 
> image, and try running it in the computer that you want to buy.

http://tuxmobil.org/hp_compaq.html is also a good place to start.


--Gireesh



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Re: NVIDIA GeForce 9200M GS?

[jwesleycooper]

On Wed, 11 Mar 2009, Nima Azarbayjany wrote: 
 
> 
> Dear all, 
> 
> I am planning to buy a new HP notebook.  The model that has caught my eyes 
> comes with an "NVIDIA GeForce 9200M GS" graphics card.  Can any one tell me 
> how well is this graphics card supported under Lenny?  Is it possible to 
> have compiz running on this graphics card?  I did some search on this but I 
> am really confused.  Some say yes and some say no. 
> 
> Thanks, 
> Nima 
> 
 
Good news Nima, I happen to have an HP amd64 notebook with the same graphics 
card, and my display works perfectly with Lenny v 5.0.0 (stable).  So you 
probably won't have any issues either!

~John Wesley Cooper


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RE: URGENT - v5.0.0 amd64 (stable): Broadcom 4321AG Wi-Fi adapter not detected

[jwesleycooper]

More problems!!!

I managed to install what I needed, but it would seem to be malfunctioning, as 
the folloing commands and output appear to indicate:

EXCALIBUR:/home/DRIVER# ndiswrapper -l
WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 63: ignoring bad line starting with 
'Reading'
WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 64: ignoring bad line starting with 
'Building'
WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 65: ignoring bad line starting with 
'Reading'
WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 66: ignoring bad line starting with 
'linux-headers-2.6.26-1-amd64'
WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 67: ignoring bad line starting with 
'linux-headers-2.6.26-1-amd64'
WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 68: ignoring bad line starting with 
'Reading'
WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 69: ignoring bad line starting with 
'Building'
WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 70: ignoring bad line starting with 
'Reading'
bcmwl5 : driver installed
device (14E4:4328) present (alternate driver: ssb)
EXCALIBUR:/home/DRIVER# ndiswrapper -m
WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 63: ignoring bad line starting with 
'Reading'
WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 64: ignoring bad line starting with 
'Building'
WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 65: ignoring bad line starting with 
'Reading'
WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 66: ignoring bad line starting with 
'linux-headers-2.6.26-1-amd64'
WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 67: ignoring bad line starting with 
'linux-headers-2.6.26-1-amd64'
WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 68: ignoring bad line starting with 
'Reading'
WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 69: ignoring bad line starting with 
'Building'
WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 70: ignoring bad line starting with 
'Reading'
adding "alias wlan0 ndiswrapper" to /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper ...


*
* The update-modules command is deprecated and should not be used!
*


EXCALIBUR:/home/DRIVER# modprobe ndiswrapper
WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 63: ignoring bad line starting with 
'Reading'
WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 64: ignoring bad line starting with 
'Building'
WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 65: ignoring bad line starting with 
'Reading'
WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 66: ignoring bad line starting with 
'linux-headers-2.6.26-1-amd64'
WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 67: ignoring bad line starting with 
'linux-headers-2.6.26-1-amd64'
WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 68: ignoring bad line starting with 
'Reading'
WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 69: ignoring bad line starting with 
'Building'
WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 70: ignoring bad line starting with 
'Reading'
FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found.

Clearly, there must be something else wrong with my configuration... but I 
haven't a clue what, advice please?

~John Wesley Cooper


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Re: URGENT - v5.0.0 amd64 (stable): Broadcom 4321AG Wi-Fi adapter not detected

[Fabricio Cannini - Yahoo]

On Wednesday 11 March 2009 21:02:42 jwesleycoo...@cox.net wrote:
> More problems!!!
>
> I managed to install what I needed, but it would seem to be malfunctioning,
> as the folloing commands and output appear to indicate:
>
> EXCALIBUR:/home/DRIVER# ndiswrapper -l
> WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 63: ignoring bad line starting with
> 'Reading' WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 64: ignoring bad line
> starting with 'Building' WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 65:
> ignoring bad line starting with 'Reading' WARNING:
> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 66: ignoring bad line starting with
> 'linux-headers-2.6.26-1-amd64' WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 67:
> ignoring bad line starting with 'linux-headers-2.6.26-1-amd64' WARNING:
> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 68: ignoring bad line starting with
> 'Reading' WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 69: ignoring bad line
> starting with 'Building' WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 70:
> ignoring bad line starting with 'Reading' bcmwl5 : driver installed
>   device (14E4:4328) present (alternate driver: ssb)
> EXCALIBUR:/home/DRIVER# ndiswrapper -m
> WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 63: ignoring bad line starting with
> 'Reading' WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 64: ignoring bad line
> starting with 'Building' WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 65:
> ignoring bad line starting with 'Reading' WARNING:
> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 66: ignoring bad line starting with
> 'linux-headers-2.6.26-1-amd64' WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 67:
> ignoring bad line starting with 'linux-headers-2.6.26-1-amd64' WARNING:
> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 68: ignoring bad line starting with
> 'Reading' WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 69: ignoring bad line
> starting with 'Building' WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 70:
> ignoring bad line starting with 'Reading' adding "alias wlan0 ndiswrapper"
> to /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper ...
>
> 
> *
> * The update-modules command is deprecated and should not be used!
> *
> 
>
> EXCALIBUR:/home/DRIVER# modprobe ndiswrapper
> WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 63: ignoring bad line starting with
> 'Reading' WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 64: ignoring bad line
> starting with 'Building' WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 65:
> ignoring bad line starting with 'Reading' WARNING:
> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 66: ignoring bad line starting with
> 'linux-headers-2.6.26-1-amd64' WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 67:
> ignoring bad line starting with 'linux-headers-2.6.26-1-amd64' WARNING:
> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 68: ignoring bad line starting with
> 'Reading' WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 69: ignoring bad line
> starting with 'Building' WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 70:
> ignoring bad line starting with 'Reading' FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not
> found.
>
> Clearly, there must be something else wrong with my configuration... but I
> haven't a clue what, advice please?
>
> ~John Wesley Cooper

Yes, there is.

At least in my notebook, the only uncommented lines (without '#' at the 
beginning of the line) in this file has something like this:

blacklist module_name
blacklist another_module_name


And so on ...

Look carefully the lines indicated by the error message and you'll see what's 
wrong with it.

See you!


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RE: URGENT - v5.0.0 amd64 (stable): Broadcom 4321AG Wi-Fi adapter not detected

[jwesleycooper]

Forgive me, but I have absolutely no prior experience with Linux, and the bulk 
of my programming experience is in two forms TI-BASIC, which is a high-level 
language for Texas Instruments made graphing calculators, so I'm not really 
sure how I would go about doing this... could you possibly be a little more 
specific, please?

~John Wesley Cooper

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From: Philipp Hagemeister [mailto:phi...@phihag.de] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 5:24 PM
To: jwesleycoo...@cox.net
Cc: debian-laptop@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: URGENT - v5.0.0 amd64 (stable): Broadcom 4321AG Wi-Fi adapter not 
detected

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Hi John,

you inadvertently modified /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, probably by typing
apt-get install linus-headers-2.6.26-1-amd64 >> etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
or something similar. Just edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist with your
favorite editor, delete line 63 onwards (you can delete any line not
starting with "blacklist" in there) and save it.
Additionally, you don't have the ndiswrapper kernel module. Why don't
you follow the official instructions at
http://wiki.debian.org/NdisWrapper#head-dcf7b280d908028971b8420f6f8008687f89cde5
for that?

Cheers,

Philipp Hagemeister


jwesleycoo...@cox.net wrote:
> More problems!!!
> 
> I managed to install what I needed, but it would seem to be malfunctioning, 
> as the folloing commands and output appear to indicate:
> 
> EXCALIBUR:/home/DRIVER# ndiswrapper -l
> WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 63: ignoring bad line starting with 
> 'Reading'
> WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 64: ignoring bad line starting with 
> 'Building'
> WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 65: ignoring bad line starting with 
> 'Reading'
> WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 66: ignoring bad line starting with 
> 'linux-headers-2.6.26-1-amd64'
> WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 67: ignoring bad line starting with 
> 'linux-headers-2.6.26-1-amd64'
> WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 68: ignoring bad line starting with 
> 'Reading'
> WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 69: ignoring bad line starting with 
> 'Building'
> WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 70: ignoring bad line starting with 
> 'Reading'
> bcmwl5 : driver installed
>   device (14E4:4328) present (alternate driver: ssb)
> EXCALIBUR:/home/DRIVER# ndiswrapper -m
> WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 63: ignoring bad line starting with 
> 'Reading'
> WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 64: ignoring bad line starting with 
> 'Building'
> WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 65: ignoring bad line starting with 
> 'Reading'
> WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 66: ignoring bad line starting with 
> 'linux-headers-2.6.26-1-amd64'
> WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 67: ignoring bad line starting with 
> 'linux-headers-2.6.26-1-amd64'
> WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 68: ignoring bad line starting with 
> 'Reading'
> WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 69: ignoring bad line starting with 
> 'Building'
> WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 70: ignoring bad line starting with 
> 'Reading'
> adding "alias wlan0 ndiswrapper" to /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper ...
> 
> 
> *
> * The update-modules command is deprecated and should not be used!
> *
> 
> 
> EXCALIBUR:/home/DRIVER# modprobe ndiswrapper
> WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 63: ignoring bad line starting with 
> 'Reading'
> WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 64: ignoring bad line starting with 
> 'Building'
> WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 65: ignoring bad line starting with 
> 'Reading'
> WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 66: ignoring bad line starting with 
> 'linux-headers-2.6.26-1-amd64'
> WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 67: ignoring bad line starting with 
> 'linux-headers-2.6.26-1-amd64'
> WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 68: ignoring bad line starting with 
> 'Reading'
> WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 69: ignoring bad line starting with 
> 'Building'
> WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 70: ignoring bad line starting with 
> 'Reading'
> FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found.
> 
> Clearly, there must be something else wrong with my configuration... but I 
> haven't a clue what, advice please?
> 
> ~John Wesley Cooper
> 
> 


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Re: URGENT - v5.0.0 amd64 (stable): Broadcom 4321AG Wi-Fi adapter not detected

[Philipp Hagemeister]

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Hi John,

you inadvertently modified /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, probably by typing
apt-get install linus-headers-2.6.26-1-amd64 >> etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
or something similar. Just edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist with your
favorite editor, delete line 63 onwards (you can delete any line not
starting with "blacklist" in there) and save it.
Additionally, you don't have the ndiswrapper kernel module. Why don't
you follow the official instructions at
http://wiki.debian.org/NdisWrapper#head-dcf7b280d908028971b8420f6f8008687f89cde5
for that?

Cheers,

Philipp Hagemeister


jwesleycoo...@cox.net wrote:
> More problems!!!
> 
> I managed to install what I needed, but it would seem to be malfunctioning, 
> as the folloing commands and output appear to indicate:
> 
> EXCALIBUR:/home/DRIVER# ndiswrapper -l
> WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 63: ignoring bad line starting with 
> 'Reading'
> WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 64: ignoring bad line starting with 
> 'Building'
> WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 65: ignoring bad line starting with 
> 'Reading'
> WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 66: ignoring bad line starting with 
> 'linux-headers-2.6.26-1-amd64'
> WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 67: ignoring bad line starting with 
> 'linux-headers-2.6.26-1-amd64'
> WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 68: ignoring bad line starting with 
> 'Reading'
> WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 69: ignoring bad line starting with 
> 'Building'
> WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 70: ignoring bad line starting with 
> 'Reading'
> bcmwl5 : driver installed
>   device (14E4:4328) present (alternate driver: ssb)
> EXCALIBUR:/home/DRIVER# ndiswrapper -m
> WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 63: ignoring bad line starting with 
> 'Reading'
> WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 64: ignoring bad line starting with 
> 'Building'
> WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 65: ignoring bad line starting with 
> 'Reading'
> WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 66: ignoring bad line starting with 
> 'linux-headers-2.6.26-1-amd64'
> WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 67: ignoring bad line starting with 
> 'linux-headers-2.6.26-1-amd64'
> WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 68: ignoring bad line starting with 
> 'Reading'
> WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 69: ignoring bad line starting with 
> 'Building'
> WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 70: ignoring bad line starting with 
> 'Reading'
> adding "alias wlan0 ndiswrapper" to /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper ...
> 
> 
> *
> * The update-modules command is deprecated and should not be used!
> *
> 
> 
> EXCALIBUR:/home/DRIVER# modprobe ndiswrapper
> WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 63: ignoring bad line starting with 
> 'Reading'
> WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 64: ignoring bad line starting with 
> 'Building'
> WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 65: ignoring bad line starting with 
> 'Reading'
> WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 66: ignoring bad line starting with 
> 'linux-headers-2.6.26-1-amd64'
> WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 67: ignoring bad line starting with 
> 'linux-headers-2.6.26-1-amd64'
> WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 68: ignoring bad line starting with 
> 'Reading'
> WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 69: ignoring bad line starting with 
> 'Building'
> WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 70: ignoring bad line starting with 
> 'Reading'
> FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found.
> 
> Clearly, there must be something else wrong with my configuration... but I 
> haven't a clue what, advice please?
> 
> ~John Wesley Cooper
> 
> 


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Re: NVIDIA GeForce 9200M GS?

[Daniel Pittman]

Nima Azarbayjany  writes:

> I am planning to buy a new HP notebook.? The model that has caught my
> eyes comes with an "NVIDIA GeForce 9200M GS" graphics card.? Can any
> one tell me how well is this graphics card supported under Lenny??

Poorly, if you want 3D support, as it will require the binary-only
NVIDIA driver.  Fairly poorly, also, for 2D-only with the free NV
driver.

In general an NVIDIA video chipset is not a great idea.

> Is it possible to have compiz running on this graphics card?? I did
> some search on this but I am really confused.? Some say yes and some
> say no.

That would be because it depends significantly on your willingness to
run the non-free NVIDIA drivers.

Regards,
Daniel


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Re: URGENT - v5.0.0 amd64 (stable): Broadcom 4321AG Wi-Fi adapter not detected

[Philipp Hagemeister]

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Hi John,

jwesleycoo...@cox.net schrieb:
> Forgive me, but I have absolutely no prior experience with Linux, and
> the bulk of my programming experience is in two forms TI-BASIC, (...),
> so I'm not really sure how I would go about doing this...
> could you p ossibly be a little more specific, please?

It's not as hard as at looks ;). But this list is there to help, so
let's divide it into tiny simple steps:

1. >> you inadvertently modified /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, (...)
/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist is a system file.  (I assume you have a basic
knowledge what a file is, if not, just ask.) It is read by some programs
(notably modprobe) to determine which kernel modules shouldn't be loaded
and is usually used to block broken or outdated modules. A kernel module
 is a program that runs with special privileges, for example a driver.
  Special privileges mean that it is allowed to directly interact with
your hardware unlike other programs you may use.
You typed or copied a command that added garbage to this file. This is
not a serious problem, and easy to resolve:

2.
>> edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist with your favorite editor,
You know how to get a root shell, right? That's the program you're
typing commands in; it displays lines like this one:
EXCALIBUR:/home/DRIVER#

Depending on your configuration, you have different editors installed
(an editor is program that allows you to make changes and view a text
file, just like /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist). If any of these commands
results in a short error message, just skip to the next one.

If you got KDE, try this:
  kwrite /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
For GNOME:
  gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
nano, a simple text editor:
  nano /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
or vi, available everywhere:
  vi /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist

See a pattern? The first word you type is the program you execute, and
all other words are arguments telling the program what exactly you want.
Text editors usually open the files you tell them in the arguments.

3.
>> delete line 63 onwards (you can delete any line not
>> starting with "blacklist" in there) and save it.
Look around the file. There will be some lines starting with "#". These
are comments and are ignored by any programs reading them. Additionally,
there will be lots of lines starting with "blacklist", usually preceded
by a comment why that particular module is blacklisted. Leave those and
scroll down. You will find some lines that start neither with "#" nor
"blacklist". Delete those. In kwrite, gedit and nano, this is
straight-forward. VI is more complex, you need to type the following:

:63d99[Press Enter]
:wq[Press Enter]

4.
> Additionally, you don't have the ndiswrapper kernel module. Why don't
> you follow the official instructions at
>
http://wiki.debian.org/NdisWrapper#head-dcf7b280d908028971b8420f6f8008687f89cde5
> for that?

Follow the link. The parts in gray must be copied verbatim to the
command line for ndiswrapper to work. Read the full text before issuing
any commands. You only need the chapter "Debian packages" to install the
ndiswrapper kernel module. As an inexperienced user, might I recommend a
graphical user interface for ndiswrapper? Type/copy
aptitude install ndisgtk && ndisgtk
to start one.

If you run in any additional problems, ask again. Please tell us what
step(1-4) you're having problems with. Also, as a beginner to Linux, and
using problematic hardware, you might be interested in a distribution
specifically catered for beginners, for example Ubuntu. They go the
extra mile to have some features - like wireless networking - installed
by default.
While I hope this mailing list can help you, asking someone who is
knowledgeable about Linux for help can really speed things up;
especially if that someone is physically in front of your laptop. If you
don't know anyone, that's not a problem: There are many people who like
Linux and can help you near you. Just pick the nearest user group from
http://www.linux.org/groups/
, and ask them if and when they can help. Take your laptop to their
meeting and let them deal with the ugly and show you the nice corners of
Linux.

Greetings from Germany,

Philipp Hagemeister

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Re: URGENT - v5.0.0 amd64 (stable): Broadcom 4321AG Wi-Fi adapter not detected

[Dave Patterson]

* jwesleycoo...@cox.net  [2009-03-11 20:36:35 -0400]:

> Forgive me, but I have absolutely no prior experience with Linux, and the 
> bulk of my programming experience is in two forms TI-BASIC, which is a 
> high-level language for Texas Instruments made graphing calculators, so I'm 
> not really sure how I would go about doing this... could you possibly be a 
> little more specific, please?
> 
> ~John Wesley Cooper
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Philipp Hagemeister [mailto:phi...@phihag.de] 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 5:24 PM
> To: jwesleycoo...@cox.net
> Cc: debian-laptop@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: URGENT - v5.0.0 amd64 (stable): Broadcom 4321AG Wi-Fi adapter 
> not detected
> 
> * PGP Signed by an unknown key
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> you inadvertently modified /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, probably by typing
> apt-get install linus-headers-2.6.26-1-amd64 >> etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
> or something similar. Just edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist with your
> favorite editor, delete line 63 onwards (you can delete any line not
> starting with "blacklist" in there) and save it.
> Additionally, you don't have the ndiswrapper kernel module. Why don't
> you follow the official instructions at
> http://wiki.debian.org/NdisWrapper#head-dcf7b280d908028971b8420f6f8008687f89cde5
> for that?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Philipp Hagemeister
> 
> 
> jwesleycoo...@cox.net wrote:
> > More problems!!!
> > 
> > I managed to install what I needed, but it would seem to be malfunctioning, 
> > as the folloing commands and output appear to indicate:
> > 
> > EXCALIBUR:/home/DRIVER# ndiswrapper -l
> > WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 63: ignoring bad line starting with 
> > 'Reading'
> > WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 64: ignoring bad line starting with 
> > 'Building'
> > WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 65: ignoring bad line starting with 
> > 'Reading'
> > WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 66: ignoring bad line starting with 
> > 'linux-headers-2.6.26-1-amd64'
> > WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 67: ignoring bad line starting with 
> > 'linux-headers-2.6.26-1-amd64'
> > WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 68: ignoring bad line starting with 
> > 'Reading'
> > WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 69: ignoring bad line starting with 
> > 'Building'
> > WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 70: ignoring bad line starting with 
> > 'Reading'
> > bcmwl5 : driver installed
> > device (14E4:4328) present (alternate driver: ssb)
> > EXCALIBUR:/home/DRIVER# ndiswrapper -m
> > WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 63: ignoring bad line starting with 
> > 'Reading'
> > WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 64: ignoring bad line starting with 
> > 'Building'
> > WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 65: ignoring bad line starting with 
> > 'Reading'
> > WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 66: ignoring bad line starting with 
> > 'linux-headers-2.6.26-1-amd64'
> > WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 67: ignoring bad line starting with 
> > 'linux-headers-2.6.26-1-amd64'
> > WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 68: ignoring bad line starting with 
> > 'Reading'
> > WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 69: ignoring bad line starting with 
> > 'Building'
> > WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 70: ignoring bad line starting with 
> > 'Reading'
> > adding "alias wlan0 ndiswrapper" to /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper ...
> > 
> > 
> > *
> > * The update-modules command is deprecated and should not be used!
> > *
> > 
> > 
> > EXCALIBUR:/home/DRIVER# modprobe ndiswrapper
> > WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 63: ignoring bad line starting with 
> > 'Reading'
> > WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 64: ignoring bad line starting with 
> > 'Building'
> > WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 65: ignoring bad line starting with 
> > 'Reading'
> > WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 66: ignoring bad line starting with 
> > 'linux-headers-2.6.26-1-amd64'
> > WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 67: ignoring bad line starting with 
> > 'linux-headers-2.6.26-1-amd64'
> > WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 68: ignoring bad line starting with 
> > 'Reading'
> > WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 69: ignoring bad line starting with 
> > 'Building'
> > WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 70: ignoring bad line starting with 
> > 'Reading'
> > FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found.
> > 
> > Clearly, there must be something else wrong with my configuration... but I 
> > haven't a clue what, advice please?
> > 
> > ~John Wesley Cooper
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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as root, do:

nano /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist

nan

Re: Xorg failure

[Baz]

On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 1:12 AM, Robert Black  wrote:

> Baz wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 12:58 AM, Baz > bazcis...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 12:44 AM, >> wrote:
>>
>>Funny you should mention i810. I installed it but deborphan
>>indicated it was, well, orphaned. I'm really frustrated now.
>>22 months of development and they STILL can't get it right.
>>Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Robert Black >>
>>
>>Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 03:35:34
>>To: mailto:bazcis...@gmail.com>>
>>Subject: Re: Xorg failure
>>
>>
>>Yes.  I am thinking that etch used the i810 driver and lenny
>>uses the
>>intel graphics  driver.  You can use  aptitude from the
>>command  line to
>>wipe the  xorg and x11 related files and reinstall using etch.
>>I  use
>>synaptic to  lock the  versions to keep them from being
>>updated and run
>>sid.   I even tried  the experimental 2:2.6.1-1
>><
>> http://packages.debian.org/source/experimental/xserver-xorg-video-intel>
>>with no luck. From the deb package search page I notice there
>>is another
>>version waiting to  be packaged.
>>http://packages.qa.debian.org/x/xserver-xorg-video-intel.html
>>I even started to  try compiling it from souce but a newer
>>version of a
>>lib was missing from debian.
>>One  big problem is with  my setup the 3d performance is
>>terrible but
>>that machine is used for a server and audio video on my desk
>>and it
>>works  fine for that.
>>
>>bazcis...@gmail.com  wrote:
>>> Intel. Like you, etch worked for me too. Did your issue
>>start after the upgrade?
>>> --Original Message--
>>> From: Robert Black
>>> To: Sebastian
>>> Cc: debian-laptop@lists.debian.org
>>
>>> Subject: Re: Xorg failure
>>> Sent: Mar 8, 2009 00:16
>>>
>>> What kind  of graphics card? I  have a desktop with an
>>integrated intel
>>> 845G and have not been able to get anything but the etch to
>>work.
>>>
>>> Baz wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Got a serious problem here.  After the upgrade from "etch"
>>to "lenny"
>>>> several weeks ago, xorg is failing at various instances.
>> It can't be
>>>> intentionally reproduced.  The "error" message indicated
>>looking at
>>>> the configuration first before filing a bug report;
>>however, it ended
>>>> with "fatal server error lockup".  I've reinstalled xorg,
>>xserver-xorg
>>>> and all dependencies; but, it's still occurring.  I've
>>downgraded to
>>>> oldstable (because it was working), upgraded to testing, then
>>>> unstable, with no success.  No error messages in the xorg
>>log.  Please
>>>> help...
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>--"...heart and soulone will burn."
>>- Joy Division
>>
>>
>> So, what are you going to do?  I take it you can't use a system that's
>> going to fail at any given time.  There's not even a bug report filed, and
>> if one is filed, how long would it be to get a fix?  It's been almost two
>> months.  I can't tolerate this any more.  I'm thinking of the U-word.
>>
>>
> It's not a Debian problem its an xorg problem with the changes.  Use
> aptitude to wipe everything xorg and x11 related and then aptitude to
>  reinstall the i810 using only etch sources or pick the version in synaptic
> and use  synaptic for updates as I  find it easier to lock the  versions.
>  You might do some web searching as people have fixed their problems related
> to resolution size causing the  crash.  I find the  lack of bug reports odd
> but I  have not filed one as I don't have the time or inclination to work on
> it anymore.
>
>
>
I filed a bug report with xorg:
http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20536.  Please add to it if you
like.  Also, someone filed a report with Debian last summer, which has yet
to even be answered: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=491230.
Disturbing.

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Re: NVIDIA GeForce 9200M GS?

[Nima Azarbayjany]

Thanks John for the good news.  You mean compiz also runs without problems?
Have you used the free drivers or the non-free NVIDIA drivers?

On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 3:27 AM,  wrote:

> On Wed, 11 Mar 2009, Nima Azarbayjany wrote:
>
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I am planning to buy a new HP notebook.  The model that has caught my
> eyes
> > comes with an "NVIDIA GeForce 9200M GS" graphics card.  Can any one tell
> me
> > how well is this graphics card supported under Lenny?  Is it possible to
> > have compiz running on this graphics card?  I did some search on this but
> I
> > am really confused.  Some say yes and some say no.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Nima
> >
>
> Good news Nima, I happen to have an HP amd64 notebook with the same
> graphics card, and my display works perfectly with Lenny v 5.0.0 (stable).
>  So you probably won't have any issues either!
>
> ~John Wesley Cooper
>

Re: NVIDIA GeForce 9200M GS?

[Nima Azarbayjany]

Hi Bob,

Thanks for the very informative email.  I love to learn all this from you
nice people.  I really hope to master things fast enough so I can soon
contribute something to these very reach mailing lists.  I adore Debian and
the people who play around with it.

I will buy my new laptop (this or another model) within one or two weeks and
will post of my success or failure.

Nima


On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:35 PM, Bob Proulx  wrote:

> Nima Azarbayjany wrote:
> > I did in fact thought of doing this but it is not doable for me.  What is
> > the most general way of determining whether a specific piece of hardware
> is
> > supported by Debian?  Things on the web seem quite confusing to me.
>
> Debian uses the Linux kernel (the Linux in Debian GNU/Linux!) and
> therefore supports pretty much everything the upstream Linux kernel
> supports.  It is the same kernel.  That much is pretty simple.  The
> patches applied specifically for Debian are rather small by comparison
> to most other distros.
>
> The first point where it gets confusing is when a hardware driver's
> distribution license legally prevents it from being freely
> distributed.  Debian will be legally bound in that case and can't
> distribute the driver even if one exists.
>
> The second often confusing point is when a driver exists but only in a
> non-free format.  Again in this case Debian won't distribute it
> because it conflicts with a basic rule of Debian's "Social Contract"
> which is that "Debian will remain 100% free".  This is a stand that is
> taken because Debian feels it important enough to do.  As a political
> topic this issue gets a *lot* of discussion on the debian-devel
> mailing list, please let's not debate it here.  But please do read
> Debian's Social Contract to understand the published rules.
>
>  http://www.debian.org/social_contract
>
> Having said all of that the nvidia driver isn't a free driver.  This
> is why it can't be installed automatically at debian-installer time.
> It has previously been made available in the non-free repository.  You
> would need to specifically install it from non-free if you wanted it.
> The non-free repository officially isn't part of Debian.  It is a
> contribution.  But it is there nonetheless.  NVIDIA uses the linux
> driver themselves and therefore it has generally been of good quality.
>
> So in my mind the best question to ask is whether the nvidia driver in
> non-free is new enough to support the 9200M GS.  If so then it should
> work.  I would expect that it would work.  The PTS page at
> http://packages.qa.debian.org/n/nvidia-graphics-drivers.html lists
> the current version in Lenny at 173.14.09.  A posting here at
> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NjUxNA says that
> 173.14.05 and later should support GeForce 9 Mobile parts.  Better
> would be to find a report of someone else who has the same machine
> hardware and has reviewed it for compatibility.
>
> The wiki page at http://wiki.debian.org/DeviceDatabase/PCI lists the
> free nv driver (perhaps not what you want) as working on the 9200.
> The nvidia page at http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_18897.html lists
> the GeForce 9200M GS 0x06E8 as supported.
>
> If you decide to try it please post your results.  Then when the
> next person searches for this combination they will get a review
> noting it as either success or failure.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Bob
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Re: URGENT - v5.0.0 amd64 (stable): Broadcom 4321AG Wi-Fi adapter not detected

[Paolo]

On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 08:59:40AM +0700, Dave Patterson wrote:
...
> as root, do:
> 
> nano /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
> 

or more quickly: 

$  sed -i /^Reading/d /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist

(w/out '$' in col 1, of course)


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