laptop Acer 1350 + fn keys
Hi I have installed debian sarge on my laptop Acer Aspire 1350LC. Since I need to do presentation with the laptop, i have put a video projector connected to my VGA out. On windows, pressing fn + F5, i can changed from either my lcd on my laptop or the video projector and both. But to my great surprise i cannot do the same thing on my debian OS. Since, I need Linux/Debian to do presentation, some helps are badly needed to activate the fn keys. Thanks A+ S. -- Shafeek __ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: cannot hibernate Dell Latitude D600 (priceless info)
This is some priceless info. Thanks man. Why is this not on the web? I've been googling like mad. Probably not googling right. Heck, once I have my ftp and http server up in a couple of weeks I might just put it up myself. I've wasted WAY too much time with this. There is actually only one function that I would really like to have: the ability to turn the backlight off. I'd be happy just with that. Might good old apm do it? (I also have 1G of memory). And why does windows not seem to have a problem with this power management stuff, while linux is struggling with it for years? One of the good things about linux was supposed to be the speed at which it evolves, and the efficiency with which bugs get found and fixed, and with which new functionalities are added. What's the problem with this power management stuff that just seems to get on everybody's nerves? (sure got on mine) Alex. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: laptop Acer 1350 + fn keys
On Mon, 2004-11-08 at 01:01 -0800, Shafeek Sumser wrote: > Hi > > I have installed debian sarge on my laptop Acer Aspire > 1350LC. Since I need to do presentation with the > laptop, i have put a video projector connected to my > VGA out. > > On windows, pressing fn + F5, i can changed from > either my lcd on my laptop or the video projector and > both. > > But to my great surprise i cannot do the same thing on > my debian OS. > > Since, I need Linux/Debian to do presentation, some > helps are badly needed to activate the fn keys. Have you tried running 'hotkeys'. For me it seems to work on my acer ferrari. Maybe not all keys are supported, but these can be added with the help of the 'dmesg' output. It might also be required to load the acerhk.o driver, this enables some extra keys on acer's -- Mark Janssen -- maniac(at)maniac.nl Unix / Linux, Open-Source and Internet Consultant PGP: 0x357D2178 Skype: markmjanssen ICQ: 129696007 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: cannot hibernate Dell Latitude D600 (priceless info)
Op ma 08-11-2004, om 10:45 schreef Alexandru Cabuz: > This is some priceless info. Thanks man. I'm not sure what this is about, however ... > There is actually only one function that I would really like to have: the > ability to turn the backlight off. I'd be happy just with that. Might good > old apm do it? (I also have 1G of memory). I think you can do this with DPMS. Look at xset and test it. You can then put it in the config file of X as an option. Done! Koen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cannot hibernate Dell Latitude D600 (priceless info)
Hi Alexandru, Alexandru Cabuz wrote: There is actually only one function that I would really like to have: the ability to turn the backlight off. I'd be happy just with that. Might good old apm do it? (I also have 1G of memory). I do this with Brightside, perhaps install it and set up an active corner to turn your display off. Hope this helps. Cheers, Marcus -- . ,,$, Marcus Crafter ;$' ':Computer Systems Engineer $: : ManageSoft Corporation $ o_)$$$: Frankfurt am Main, Germany ;$,_/\ &&:' ' /( &&& \_' . &&&: -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cannot hibernate Dell Latitude D600 (priceless info)
Marcus Crafter wrote: Hi Alexandru, Alexandru Cabuz wrote: There is actually only one function that I would really like to have: the ability to turn the backlight off. I'd be happy just with that. Might good old apm do it? (I also have 1G of memory). I do this with Brightside, perhaps install it and set up an active corner to turn your display off. Hope this helps. Cheers, Marcus have a look at http://www.loria.fr/~thome/d600/ Kim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Really small kernel
Hi all, I want to find a way to find out what things i need to enable for my laptop to function. I want to compile a kernel which only has support for the hardware im using and no module support Is there any command which will let me view all the hardware on my pc and what respective setting i need on my .config file? I want to make the kernel as small as possible thanks for any help... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cannot hibernate Dell Latitude D600 (priceless info)
<< There is actually only one function that I would really like to have: the ability to turn the backlight off. I'd be happy just with that. Might good old apm do it? (I also have 1G of memory).>> For me on my Dell Inspiron 8600, I've had success with this command. /usr/X11R6/bin/xset -display :0.0 dpms force off << And why does windows not seem to have a problem with this power management stuff, while linux is struggling with it for years? One of the good things about linux was supposed to be the speed at which it evolves, and the efficiency with which bugs get found and fixed, and with which new functionalities are added.>> At least for me, Windows had more issues with suspend-to-ram than Linux has had, at least on kernel 2.6.9, with regards to the machine coming back a zombie. I think one of the frustrations that laptop users especially have with this is that it's a moving target and to a certain extent you're dependent on advanced users to rewrite broken DSDTs, or programmers to fix bugs or write workarounds for model-specific issues (which seem to come up a lot). Also, I get the feeling that for the most part, there is little to no explicit cooperation between the laptop vendors and the people working on the ACPI project, though Intel seems to have a pretty strong showing on the list. Jason Powers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cannot hibernate Dell Latitude D600 (priceless info)
Alexandru Cabuz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This is some priceless info. Thanks man. Are you talking about the explanations for different types of suspend in the kernel? If you have kernel sources installed then take a look at /usr/src/linux-/Documentation/power/swsusp.txt Alexandru Cabuz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > And why does windows not seem to have a problem with this power management > stuff, while linux is struggling with it for years? One of the good things > about linux was supposed to be the speed at which it evolves, and the > efficiency with which bugs get found and fixed, and with which new http://acpi.sourceforge.net/dsdt/index.php According to this page, sometimes the problems with acpi is because of a buggy DSDT. Also look at Section 3 of http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=122145 which has one explanation to why stuff that works with windows doesn't always work with linux. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dell inspiron 1150 sound
Kiss Tamás <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have a Dell notebook like in subject. Anybody knows what can > I do to set soundcard? I don,t know which kernel module /2.6.8/ > need for me and what is the correct setting. > I try do this for 2 days and I give up :) do lspci and see what sound card you have. you should see something like this: :00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01) Chances are that your dell laptop has the same audio card. If that is the case, the module is snd_intel8x0 if you are using alsa. alternately for oss you need to use the module i810_audio -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Power Management On Dell Inspiron 3800
BC Flyer wrote: Hi, I've just install Debian 3r2 on a Dell Insipirion 3800, and the install worked great and everything seems to work just fine, except that the fan is on all the time as if the laptop is overheating. I have built a 2.24.27 kernel with APM enabled, but it doesn't make any difference. From the time I boot the system, the fan comes on and stays on running at max. Its louder than my Desktop!! I tried to install lmsensors, but it appears that my laptop is not supported. What can I do to enable some kind of power management or fan control?? Try the i8kutils. I don't know if it's available for 3r2, but it is available for testing. I would recommend upgrading to testing, as it currently very stable because it is about to be released. Hopefully. ;-) Thanks in advance, bcflyer_at_electricoceanDOTcom Configuration Info: Laptop: Dell Inspiron 3800 Memory: 64 MB Ram Hard Disk: 6 GB Swap Space: 512 MB -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Really small kernel
Hi ognjen Bezanov, *, ognjen Bezanov wrote: > Hi all, > > I want to find a way to find out what things i need to enable for my > laptop to function. > > I want to compile a kernel which only has support for the hardware im > using and no module support > Why no modules? Modules only have a slight overhead, when loading. After this they perform like built-in modules. > Is there any command which will let me view all the hardware on my pc > and what respective setting i need on my .config file? > lshw is a good tool to find out, what is in your laptop. also you should consider using lspci. both together should give you a really good overview. the only problem is to "translate" these infos into a .config. i don't know of any tool which is capabale of doing this job. the best way to do, what you want is running the distclean target of the kernel and starting with the allnoconfig target. from this startingpoint you can enable the different settings via menuconfig or similar. > I want to make the kernel as small as possible > Remember, size only matters at boot time (maybe 3-5% faster startup) or when you really don't have much ram available. Kind regards Martin -- Martin Theiß <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GPG-Fingerprint: EC80 53A2 F0A2 6E6C 74D2 CB6E 002A F6D3 E78B 7F45 The box said 'Requires Windows 95 or better', so I installed Linux - TKK 5 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Really small kernel
Thanks for all the answers, In essence i want to keep the kernel small so that it boots up as fast as possible. Plus the hardware is a 75mhz laptop with very little ram, i want to save as much ram as i can for other programs, hence the need for a small kernel. As far as modules are concerned, i was under the impression that the kernel + modules would be bigger (size wise) then having everything together in one. Do using (or not using) modules make a difference to the total size when loaded into ram? On Mon, 2004-11-08 at 16:21, Martin Theiß wrote: > Hi ognjen Bezanov, *, > > ognjen Bezanov wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > I want to find a way to find out what things i need to enable for my > > laptop to function. > > > > I want to compile a kernel which only has support for the hardware im > > using and no module support > > > Why no modules? Modules only have a slight overhead, when loading. After > this they perform like built-in modules. > > > Is there any command which will let me view all the hardware on my pc > > and what respective setting i need on my .config file? > > > lshw is a good tool to find out, what is in your laptop. also you should > consider using lspci. both together should give you a really good overview. > the only problem is to "translate" these infos into a .config. i don't know > of any tool which is capabale of doing this job. > the best way to do, what you want is running the distclean target of the > kernel and starting with the allnoconfig target. from this startingpoint you > can enable the different settings via menuconfig or similar. > > > I want to make the kernel as small as possible > > > Remember, size only matters at boot time (maybe 3-5% faster startup) or when > you really don't have much ram available. > > Kind regards > Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Really small kernel
ognjen Bezanov wrote: Thanks for all the answers, In essence i want to keep the kernel small so that it boots up as fast as possible. Plus the hardware is a 75mhz laptop with very little ram, i want to save as much ram as i can for other programs, hence the need for a small kernel. As far as modules are concerned, i was under the impression that the kernel + modules would be bigger (size wise) then having everything together in one. Do using (or not using) modules make a difference to the total size when loaded into ram? I think that if you completely remove the ability to use modules (ie, a monolithic kernel), you can save some space with the kernel build. One of the kernel config options is to enable/disable modules. If you disable it, you will no longer have the option to compile stuff as a module. It's either in or out. Jason On Mon, 2004-11-08 at 16:21, Martin Theiß wrote: Hi ognjen Bezanov, *, ognjen Bezanov wrote: Hi all, I want to find a way to find out what things i need to enable for my laptop to function. I want to compile a kernel which only has support for the hardware im using and no module support Why no modules? Modules only have a slight overhead, when loading. After this they perform like built-in modules. Is there any command which will let me view all the hardware on my pc and what respective setting i need on my .config file? lshw is a good tool to find out, what is in your laptop. also you should consider using lspci. both together should give you a really good overview. the only problem is to "translate" these infos into a .config. i don't know of any tool which is capabale of doing this job. the best way to do, what you want is running the distclean target of the kernel and starting with the allnoconfig target. from this startingpoint you can enable the different settings via menuconfig or similar. I want to make the kernel as small as possible Remember, size only matters at boot time (maybe 3-5% faster startup) or when you really don't have much ram available. Kind regards Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Really small kernel
On Mon, Nov 08, 2004 at 05:26:44PM +, ognjen Bezanov wrote: > Thanks for all the answers, > > In essence i want to keep the kernel small so that it boots up as fast > as possible. [snip] > > Do using (or not using) modules make a difference to the total size when > loaded into ram? I leave Module support turned on, but once I have a pretty clear handle on things, I just compile everything I want as built-in. I think that compiling things you rarely use as modules would probably save some working set memory. On a G3 powerbook, I disabled USB support completely, Firewire completely, PCMCIA completely, and compiled SCSI as builtin, IDE as builtin, Alsa as builtin, Network as builtin, NFS as builtin, SMBFS as builtin, ISO9660/Compressed/etc as builtin, but things like NTFS and VFAT as modules. It's not hard. You just do it. The decision tree for "make menuconfig" isn't that broad or deep. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Really small kernel
At Mon, 08 Nov 2004 17:26:44 +, ognjen Bezanov wrote: > > Thanks for all the answers, > > In essence i want to keep the kernel small so that it boots up as fast > as possible. > > Plus the hardware is a 75mhz laptop with very little ram, i want to save > as much ram as i can for other programs, hence the need for a small > kernel. > > As far as modules are concerned, i was under the impression that the > kernel + modules would be bigger (size wise) then having everything > together in one. > > Do using (or not using) modules make a difference to the total size when > loaded into ram? > Removing module support from the kernel would save a bit, but I don't know how much. If it gets read of the kernel symbol table, it could save you some memory as my kallsyms file take about 500K. You will have to test though to see if you actually save that much in memory. As for the modules themselves, it means that you don't have to load the modules that you are not using at the moment, which could save you some memory (such as floppy, cdrom, serial, etc.) This way you also save the memory some of the modules allocate, how much that is would depend on the module though. The shouldn't be any other difference in memory usage otherwise when comparing compiling things as modules, compared to compiling into the kernel. What insmod does is basically dynamically link the code. Modules are regular object files, and insmod looks for the unknown symbols, and then tries to resolve them using the kernel's exported symbols (same as statically linking a regular object file actually, only done at runtime). > On Mon, 2004-11-08 at 16:21, Martin Theiß wrote: > > Hi ognjen Bezanov, *, > > > > ognjen Bezanov wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I want to find a way to find out what things i need to enable for my > > > laptop to function. > > > > > > I want to compile a kernel which only has support for the hardware im > > > using and no module support > > > > > Why no modules? Modules only have a slight overhead, when loading. After > > this they perform like built-in modules. > > > > > Is there any command which will let me view all the hardware on my pc > > > and what respective setting i need on my .config file? > > > > > lshw is a good tool to find out, what is in your laptop. also you should > > consider using lspci. both together should give you a really good overview. > > the only problem is to "translate" these infos into a .config. i don't know > > of any tool which is capabale of doing this job. > > the best way to do, what you want is running the distclean target of the > > kernel and starting with the allnoconfig target. from this startingpoint you > > can enable the different settings via menuconfig or similar. > > > > > I want to make the kernel as small as possible > > > > > Remember, size only matters at boot time (maybe 3-5% faster startup) or when > > you really don't have much ram available. > > > > Kind regards > > Martin > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > +++ > This Mail Was Scanned By Mail-seCure System > at the Tel-Aviv University CC. >
Re: laptop Acer 1350 + fn keys
Hello, am Montag, 8. November 2004 10:01 schrieb Shafeek Sumser: > Hi > > I have installed debian sarge on my laptop Acer Aspire > 1350LC. Since I need to do presentation with the > laptop, i have put a video projector connected to my > VGA out. > > On windows, pressing fn + F5, i can changed from > either my lcd on my laptop or the video projector and > both. > > But to my great surprise i cannot do the same thing on > my debian OS. Try to boot with the video projrctor plugged into Your laptop . For my Acer Aspire 1513LMi this woraround works. ;) > Since, I need Linux/Debian to do presentation, some > helps are badly needed to activate the fn keys. HTH Greetings Robin -- Robin Haunschild <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.tuxschild.de [EMAIL PROTECTED] .''`. Ha Psi ist gleich Eh Psi : :' :-Niemals aufgeben, niemals kapitulieren- `. `'`*Linux* - apt-get into it `- Ich bin entschieden gegen Softwarepatente! Weitere Informationen unter http://www.ffii.org Bitte senden Sie mir keine Word-, Excel- oder PowerPoint-Anhänge. Siehe http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.de.html
XFree86/fglrx with higher resolution on vga-out
Hi, I spend a couple of hours trying to set up XFree86 4.3.0.1 (sarge) with fglrx and a res. of 1400x1050 for the internal display of my t41p and 1600x1200 for my Iiyama connected via vga-out. So far i'm frustrated getting only a 1280x1024 in virtual 1400x1050 on the external Monitor. Is anybody out there running the ATI driver in clone mode with a higher resolution on external than on internal display? A post of your XF86Config-4 File would be a *great* help. Thanks, Andreas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
