Re: Touchpad functionality dissappeared for no apparent reason!

2004-09-27 Thread Derek Broughton
On September 27, 2004 03:24 pm, Sebastian Tennant wrote:
> Until recently, my Dell Latitude L400 touchpad was being happily detected
> by my Linux kernel (2.6.7) at bootup, and was working fine in X, but then
> mysteriously dissapeared? I suspect a blundering apt-get install of udev
> which appeared to erase /dev/fd0. However, I was able to recreate /dev/fd0
> by re-booting with the floppy drive attached, (after apt-get purging udev),

But isn't that exactly what's supposed to happen?  If you don't have your 
floppy drive inserted, you hardly need to have a /dev/fd0.

>  but re-booting without my USB mouse attached has not revived my touchpad
> :-(

Did you always have to do that?  I do. I can only attach my USB mouse (on an 
Inspiron 2500 w/ 2.6.7) _after_  I get the Synaptics pad recognized.  I'm 
sure that's something to do with the ordering of the loading of various 
modules, because I can get X to start up if I very carefully remove all the 
modules, then modprobe psmouse, then start X, then connect the USB mouse. 

I wonder it it would help to add mousedev to /etc/hotplug/blacklist and 
modprobe it later...

w/ 2.4.27 I can't use the USB mouse at all.  
>
> Attached is a relatively short diff of my last touchpad-successful boot
> compared with the following unsuccessful one.  As can be seen from the
> diff, it was being recognised as a "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad on
> isa0060/serio1".  Since then it hasn't been recognised once!
>
modprobe psmouse
(which will also insert hid and evdev, maybe others)
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Re: Touchpad functionality dissappeared for no apparent reason!

2004-09-27 Thread Derek Broughton
On September 27, 2004 03:24 pm, Sebastian Tennant wrote:

> Attached is a relatively short diff of my last touchpad-successful boot
> compared with the following unsuccessful one.  As can be seen from the
> diff, it was being recognised as a "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad on
> isa0060/serio1".  Since then it hasn't been recognised once!

diff -u please...

You still don't seem to have a floppy... and you've done a lot more than 
add/remove udev.  You're using different options for the network interface, 
you've changed real-time clock drivers and DMA options on your HDs (none of 
which are likely fatal, but it looks like you're using a different kernel).  
The good news is you gained 4.09 Bogomips :-)

> If you think my suspicions may be correct and I need to recreate the device
> file somehow, how would I do that and what would I call it?

I don't think, but "mknod" can be used to create some of these if you have 
to..

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/linux$ ls -l /dev/input/
total 0
crw-r--r--  1 root root 13, 64 2004-06-01 22:04 event0
crw-r--r--  1 root root 13, 65 2004-06-01 22:04 event1
crw-rw  1 root root 13, 67 2004-03-10 06:40 event3
crw-r--r--  1 root root 13, 63 2004-05-21 18:38 mice
crw-r--r--  1 root root 13, 32 2004-06-01 22:04 mouse0
crw-rw  1 root root 13, 34 2004-03-10 06:40 mouse2
crw-rw  1 root root 13, 35 2004-03-10 06:40 mouse3
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Re: Touchpad functionality dissappeared for no apparent reason!

2004-09-27 Thread Sebastian Tennant
On Mon, 2004-09-27 at 19:46, Derek Broughton wrote:

> But isn't that exactly what's supposed to happen?  If you don't have your 
> floppy drive inserted, you hardly need to have a /dev/fd0.

I suppose it is, I just wasn't expecting it!

> >  but re-booting without my USB mouse attached has not revived my touchpad
> Did you (not) always have to do that?

No.  They used to work simultaneously.

> 'modprobe psmouse' (will also insert hid and evdev, maybe others)

Instant success!  They are now both working simultaneously again.
'psmouse' is not blacklisted so I've still no idea why it stopped being loaded at
boot-time.  If I fiigure it out I'll post here.

Re: your set-up, it seems counter-intuitive to me but the following modules are
blacklisted in my set-up and I had, (and now have again), both working no problem.

usb-uhci
usbcore
#these drivers are very simple, the HID drivers are usually preferred
usbmouse
usbkbd

Thanks for your time Derek.

sebyte



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Re: Touchpad functionality dissappeared for no apparent reason!

2004-09-27 Thread Sebastian Tennant
On Mon, 2004-09-27 at 20:05, Derek Broughton wrote:

> On September 27, 2004 03:24 pm, Sebastian Tennant wrote:
> 
> > Attached is a relatively short diff of my last touchpad-successful boot
> > compared with the following unsuccessful one.  As can be seen from the
> > diff, it was being recognised as a "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad on
> > isa0060/serio1".  Since then it hasn't been recognised once!
> 
> diff -u please...

OK.  Hmmm, I wonder if there's an emacs variable for that ...

> You still don't seem to have a floppy...

I do now, just not in that diff...

> and you've done a lot more than 
> add/remove udev.  You're using different options for the network interface, 
> you've changed real-time clock drivers and DMA options on your HDs (none of 
> which are likely fatal, but it looks like you're using a different kernel).  
> The good news is you gained 4.09 Bogomips :-)

You're starting to worry me!  I am using 2.6.7 which was installed by
sarge-i386-netinst-daily-build.iso (04/08/04).  I wish it were otherwise but
I haven't knowingly changed any of those settings :-/

On the whole it's working well.  A few things are bugging me, like the fan only
coming on with a reboot, and sleep/suspend functionality entirely lacking.
(This may simply be because I haven't figured out how to get them working yet,
beyond passing acpi=force as a kernel boot-parameter to enable acpi).

Have you got these working on your Inspiron?

> > If you think my suspicions may be correct and I need to recreate the device
> > file somehow, how would I do that and what would I call it?
> 
> I don't think, but "mknod" can be used to create some of these if you have 
> to..

Ta.

sebyte

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Re: Touchpad functionality dissappeared for no apparent reason!

2004-09-27 Thread Derek Broughton
On September 27, 2004 04:40 pm, Sebastian Tennant wrote:
> On Mon, 2004-09-27 at 19:46, Derek Broughton wrote:
>
> > 'modprobe psmouse' (will also insert hid and evdev, maybe others)
>
> Instant success!  They are now both working simultaneously again.
> 'psmouse' is not blacklisted so I've still no idea why it stopped being
> loaded at boot-time.  If I fiigure it out I'll post here.

I'm certain it has to do with order of initialization.  Perhaps if you created 
a script /etc/hotplug/usb/mousedev which would just do "modprobe psmouse"
 (I'm pretty sure there's actually a better way to do that...).  I had hoped 
that by compiling psmouse into the kernel it would fix the problem, but that 
just leaves me with less flexibility...

> Re: your set-up, it seems counter-intuitive to me but the following modules
> are blacklisted in my set-up and I had, (and now have again), both working
> no problem.
>
> usb-uhci
> usbcore

usb-uhci is blacklisted because the one you're actually going to use is 
probably  uhci_hcd (they perform the same function).  The alternative (and 
probably used in your 2.4 kernel) method would be an alias 
in /etc/modules.conf.  usbcore is blacklisted, iirc, to prevent it being 
loaded by any device directly.  It is always loaded as a dependency of 
usb-uhci or uhci-hcd.

Now, you've got me thinking that perhaps uhci-hcd should be blacklisted for 
the same reason - perhaps not.  The system probably can't actually recognize 
a USB connection until uhci is installed.

> #these drivers are very simple, the HID drivers are usually preferred
> usbmouse
> usbkbd

 If usbmouse is used (which depends on hidbp instead of hid and evdev) my USB 
mouse only works in a vertical orientation.  Not too useful :-)

> Thanks for your time Derek.

You're welcome.  This is stuff I've been puzzling over for months.  Note, 
you'll probably need to add psmouse to /etc/modules so that the touchpad is 
working next time you boot.
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Re: [Fwd: Re: Help with Dell 1150 wireless card in Dell 5100]

2004-09-27 Thread Chris Kacoroski
Hi,
Figured out the problem after checking out the ndiswrapper site.  The 
dell 5100's do not turn on the radio part of the card until you press 
Fn-F2.  Amazing how one keystroke can make all the difference.

Chris Kacoroski wrote:
Well, I went to the library tonight and the card would not work under 
mandrake 10 (it used to) or debian even though it shows up in wavemon. I 
am going to see if I can swap cards with a person at work as I suspect a 
hardware problem (either the card or the antenna in the laptop.

ski

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General question on wireless

2004-09-27 Thread Chris Kacoroski
Hi,
Now that I have it working on the 5100, I have a question about what I 
am seeing in wavemon.  With a dell 1150 and drivers native to debian, I 
get a link quality of about 25/92, signal is about 30% of the bar and 
red, and I get both noise and a signal to noise ratio.

I also have a dell 1300 that I am using with the ndiswrapper and the 
latest xp drivers from dell.  With this card the link quality is 100%, 
signal level is -75db (red bar, about the same as the 1150), but there 
is no noise bar.or signal to noise ratio bar.

Which card is getting better reception?  Which one should I keep?  the 
1300 is supposedly a faster card (although it connected at the same 
11Mbits/sec -- I suppose this is all the base station in the library 
will support).  The 1300 does support scanning which the 1150 does not.

Is there a website that can help me get up to speed on wireless on linux 
and what are good numbers from a card/access point combination.  I have 
numbers, I just really do not know what they mean.

thanks very much.
ski
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Re: General question on wireless

2004-09-27 Thread Michael Perry
On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 19:35:51 -0700, Chris Kacoroski
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Now that I have it working on the 5100, I have a question about what I
> am seeing in wavemon.  With a dell 1150 and drivers native to debian, I
> get a link quality of about 25/92, signal is about 30% of the bar and
> red, and I get both noise and a signal to noise ratio.
> 
> I also have a dell 1300 that I am using with the ndiswrapper and the
> latest xp drivers from dell.  With this card the link quality is 100%,
> signal level is -75db (red bar, about the same as the 1150), but there
> is no noise bar.or signal to noise ratio bar.
> 
> Which card is getting better reception?  Which one should I keep?  the
> 1300 is supposedly a faster card (although it connected at the same
> 11Mbits/sec -- I suppose this is all the base station in the library
> will support).  The 1300 does support scanning which the 1150 does not.
> 
> Is there a website that can help me get up to speed on wireless on linux
> and what are good numbers from a card/access point combination.  I have
> numbers, I just really do not know what they mean.
> 
> thanks very much.
> 
> ski
> 
> --

I've seen the same thing here.  Just a bit of background in my case. 
I have a WRT54G flashed with a later bios.  With a Orinoco Classic
Gold card that does 11b, I would normally see at the highest around a
link quality of about 40%.  I then went for linuxant and switched to
using the wpc54g cards which I had purchased for my XP laptop. 
Instantly the quality of the link went way up and I could see the
difference in downloads, web browsing, etc.  Wavemon tells me I am now
running at about 94% and it never varies from that.

I also got numerous disconnects or periods of time when the Orinoco
gold cards would somehow lose the AP I have.  Often it would occur for
minutes at  a time either on debian or XP Pro.  With the change in the
drivers to the linuxant drivers, this simply does not happen.

I can also set the WRT54G to operate at G only now and set the card to
have the highest and most optimum performance threshold in its
configuraiton.

I have not really found a downside to the card yet except for a bit of
manual nature sometimes bringing up the interface if I reboot the
laptop.  Luckily the reasons for rebooting the laptop are pretty slim
since it suspends very well most times.

Perhaps someone else can add a website or two they use.  I use a few
forums like dslreports.com and practicallynetworked.org for general
support.  There is also linksysinfo.org on the linksys stuff.
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Testing on Inspiron 5150 (or 5160)

2004-09-27 Thread H. S.

Does anyone have experience with Debian on 5150? Any
quirks or should Testing or Unstable work just after
installation.

Thanks,
->HS



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Re: Testing on Inspiron 5150 (or 5160)

2004-09-27 Thread H. S.
Apparently, _H. S._, on 09/28/04 01:31,typed:
Does anyone have experience with Debian on 5150? Any
quirks or should Testing or Unstable work just after
installation.
Thanks,
->HS
I learn that the BIOS that Dell is giving out, later than A08 if I am 
not wrong, causes some troubles with ACPM or something like this? Sorry, 
am not familiar with laptop so feel free to explain things to me.

Thanks,
->HS
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2004-09-27 Thread Fredo StrĂ¼ber




Touchpad functionality dissappeared for no apparent reason!

2004-09-27 Thread Sebastian Tennant
Until recently, my Dell Latitude L400 touchpad was being happily detected by my 
Linux
kernel (2.6.7) at bootup, and was working fine in X, but then mysteriously 
dissapeared?
I suspect a blundering apt-get install of udev which appeared to erase /dev/fd0.
However, I was able to recreate /dev/fd0 by re-booting with the floppy drive 
attached,
(after apt-get purging udev),  but re-booting without my USB mouse attached has 
not
revived my touchpad :-(

Attached is a relatively short diff of my last touchpad-successful boot 
compared with the
following unsuccessful one.  As can be seen from the diff, it was being 
recognised as a
"SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad on isa0060/serio1".  Since then it hasn't been 
recognised
once!

If you think my suspicions may be correct and I need to recreate the device 
file somehow,
how would I do that and what would I call it?

Any help much appreciated!

TIA

sebyte

cd ~/workspace/
diff -c /home/sebyte/workspace/bad_boot /home/sebyte/workspace/good_boot
*** /home/sebyte/workspace/bad_boot Mon Sep 27 17:50:55 2004
--- /home/sebyte/workspace/good_bootMon Sep 27 17:51:25 2004
***
*** 31,42 
   kernel: Could not enable APIC!
   kernel: Initializing CPU#0
   kernel: PID hash table entries: 1024 (order 10: 8192 bytes)
!  kernel: Detected 697.113 MHz processor.
   kernel: Using pmtmr for high-res timesource
   kernel: Console: colour dummy device 80x25
   kernel: Memory: 252568k/262080k available (1309k kernel code, 8772k 
reserved, 701k data, 204k init, 0k highmem)
   kernel: Checking if this processor honours the WP bit even in supervisor 
mode... Ok.
!  kernel: Calibrating delay loop... 1380.35 BogoMIPS
   kernel: Security Scaffold v1.0.0 initialized
   kernel: Dentry cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes)
   kernel: Inode-cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 4, 65536 bytes)
--- 31,42 
   kernel: Could not enable APIC!
   kernel: Initializing CPU#0
   kernel: PID hash table entries: 1024 (order 10: 8192 bytes)
!  kernel: Detected 696.996 MHz processor.
   kernel: Using pmtmr for high-res timesource
   kernel: Console: colour dummy device 80x25
   kernel: Memory: 252568k/262080k available (1309k kernel code, 8772k 
reserved, 701k data, 204k init, 0k highmem)
   kernel: Checking if this processor honours the WP bit even in supervisor 
mode... Ok.
!  kernel: Calibrating delay loop... 1384.44 BogoMIPS
   kernel: Security Scaffold v1.0.0 initialized
   kernel: Dentry cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes)
   kernel: Inode-cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 4, 65536 bytes)
***
*** 56,62 
   kernel: PCI: Using configuration type 1
   kernel: mtrr: v2.0 (20020519)
   kernel: ACPI: Subsystem revision 20040326
!  kernel: ACPI: IRQ9 SCI: Level Trigger.
   kernel: ACPI-1133: *** Error: Method execution failed 
[\_SB_.PCI0.ISA_.FDC_.FDDA._STA] (Node cfbbea28), AE_NOT_EXIST
   kernel: ACPI-0154: *** Error: Method execution failed 
[\_SB_.PCI0.ISA_.FDC_.FDDA._STA] (Node cfbbea28), AE_NOT_EXIST
   kernel: ACPI: Interpreter enabled
--- 56,62 
   kernel: PCI: Using configuration type 1
   kernel: mtrr: v2.0 (20020519)
   kernel: ACPI: Subsystem revision 20040326
!  kernel: ACPI: IRQ9 SCI: Edge set to Level Trigger.
   kernel: ACPI-1133: *** Error: Method execution failed 
[\_SB_.PCI0.ISA_.FDC_.FDDA._STA] (Node cfbbea28), AE_NOT_EXIST
   kernel: ACPI-0154: *** Error: Method execution failed 
[\_SB_.PCI0.ISA_.FDC_.FDDA._STA] (Node cfbbea28), AE_NOT_EXIST
   kernel: ACPI: Interpreter enabled
***
*** 69,75 
   kernel: ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 *11 14 15)
   kernel: ACPI-1133: *** Error: Method execution failed 
[\_SB_.PCI0.ISA_.FDC_.FDDA._STA] (Node cfbbea28), AE_NOT_EXIST
   kernel: ACPI: Embedded Controller [EC0] (gpe 0)
!  kernel: ACPI: Power Resource [PFN0] (on)
   kernel: ACPI: Power Resource [PFN1] (off)
   kernel: Linux Plug and Play Support v0.97 (c) Adam Belay
   kernel: PnPBIOS: Scanning system for PnP BIOS support...
--- 69,75 
   kernel: ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 *11 14 15)
   kernel: ACPI-1133: *** Error: Method execution failed 
[\_SB_.PCI0.ISA_.FDC_.FDDA._STA] (Node cfbbea28), AE_NOT_EXIST
   kernel: ACPI: Embedded Controller [EC0] (gpe 0)
!  kernel: ACPI: Power Resource [PFN0] (off)
   kernel: ACPI: Power Resource [PFN1] (off)
   kernel: Linux Plug and Play Support v0.97 (c) Adam Belay
   kernel: PnPBIOS: Scanning system for PnP BIOS support...
***
*** 123,130 
   kernel: PIIX4: IDE controller at PCI slot :00:07.1
   kernel: PIIX4: chipset revision 1
   kernel: PIIX4: not 100%% native mode: will probe irqs later
!  kernel: ide0: BM-DMA at 0xfcd0-0xfcd7, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio
!  kernel: ide1: BM-DMA at 0xfcd8-0xfcdf, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:pio
   kernel: hda: IBM-DJSA-210, ATA DISK drive
   kernel: Using anticipatory io scheduler
   kernel: ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7

Re: Touchpad functionality dissappeared for no apparent reason!

2004-09-27 Thread Derek Broughton
On September 27, 2004 03:24 pm, Sebastian Tennant wrote:
> Until recently, my Dell Latitude L400 touchpad was being happily detected
> by my Linux kernel (2.6.7) at bootup, and was working fine in X, but then
> mysteriously dissapeared? I suspect a blundering apt-get install of udev
> which appeared to erase /dev/fd0. However, I was able to recreate /dev/fd0
> by re-booting with the floppy drive attached, (after apt-get purging udev),

But isn't that exactly what's supposed to happen?  If you don't have your 
floppy drive inserted, you hardly need to have a /dev/fd0.

>  but re-booting without my USB mouse attached has not revived my touchpad
> :-(

Did you always have to do that?  I do. I can only attach my USB mouse (on an 
Inspiron 2500 w/ 2.6.7) _after_  I get the Synaptics pad recognized.  I'm 
sure that's something to do with the ordering of the loading of various 
modules, because I can get X to start up if I very carefully remove all the 
modules, then modprobe psmouse, then start X, then connect the USB mouse. 

I wonder it it would help to add mousedev to /etc/hotplug/blacklist and 
modprobe it later...

w/ 2.4.27 I can't use the USB mouse at all.  
>
> Attached is a relatively short diff of my last touchpad-successful boot
> compared with the following unsuccessful one.  As can be seen from the
> diff, it was being recognised as a "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad on
> isa0060/serio1".  Since then it hasn't been recognised once!
>
modprobe psmouse
(which will also insert hid and evdev, maybe others)
-- 
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Re: Touchpad functionality dissappeared for no apparent reason!

2004-09-27 Thread Derek Broughton
On September 27, 2004 03:24 pm, Sebastian Tennant wrote:

> Attached is a relatively short diff of my last touchpad-successful boot
> compared with the following unsuccessful one.  As can be seen from the
> diff, it was being recognised as a "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad on
> isa0060/serio1".  Since then it hasn't been recognised once!

diff -u please...

You still don't seem to have a floppy... and you've done a lot more than 
add/remove udev.  You're using different options for the network interface, 
you've changed real-time clock drivers and DMA options on your HDs (none of 
which are likely fatal, but it looks like you're using a different kernel).  
The good news is you gained 4.09 Bogomips :-)

> If you think my suspicions may be correct and I need to recreate the device
> file somehow, how would I do that and what would I call it?

I don't think, but "mknod" can be used to create some of these if you have 
to..

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/linux$ ls -l /dev/input/
total 0
crw-r--r--  1 root root 13, 64 2004-06-01 22:04 event0
crw-r--r--  1 root root 13, 65 2004-06-01 22:04 event1
crw-rw  1 root root 13, 67 2004-03-10 06:40 event3
crw-r--r--  1 root root 13, 63 2004-05-21 18:38 mice
crw-r--r--  1 root root 13, 32 2004-06-01 22:04 mouse0
crw-rw  1 root root 13, 34 2004-03-10 06:40 mouse2
crw-rw  1 root root 13, 35 2004-03-10 06:40 mouse3
-- 
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Re: Touchpad functionality dissappeared for no apparent reason!

2004-09-27 Thread Sebastian Tennant
On Mon, 2004-09-27 at 19:46, Derek Broughton wrote:

> But isn't that exactly what's supposed to happen?  If you don't have your 
> floppy drive inserted, you hardly need to have a /dev/fd0.

I suppose it is, I just wasn't expecting it!

> >  but re-booting without my USB mouse attached has not revived my touchpad
> Did you (not) always have to do that?

No.  They used to work simultaneously.

> 'modprobe psmouse' (will also insert hid and evdev, maybe others)

Instant success!  They are now both working simultaneously again.
'psmouse' is not blacklisted so I've still no idea why it stopped being loaded 
at
boot-time.  If I fiigure it out I'll post here.

Re: your set-up, it seems counter-intuitive to me but the following modules are
blacklisted in my set-up and I had, (and now have again), both working no 
problem.

usb-uhci
usbcore
#these drivers are very simple, the HID drivers are usually preferred
usbmouse
usbkbd

Thanks for your time Derek.

sebyte




Re: Touchpad functionality dissappeared for no apparent reason!

2004-09-27 Thread Sebastian Tennant
On Mon, 2004-09-27 at 20:05, Derek Broughton wrote:

> On September 27, 2004 03:24 pm, Sebastian Tennant wrote:
> 
> > Attached is a relatively short diff of my last touchpad-successful boot
> > compared with the following unsuccessful one.  As can be seen from the
> > diff, it was being recognised as a "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad on
> > isa0060/serio1".  Since then it hasn't been recognised once!
> 
> diff -u please...

OK.  Hmmm, I wonder if there's an emacs variable for that ...

> You still don't seem to have a floppy...

I do now, just not in that diff...

> and you've done a lot more than 
> add/remove udev.  You're using different options for the network interface, 
> you've changed real-time clock drivers and DMA options on your HDs (none of 
> which are likely fatal, but it looks like you're using a different kernel).  
> The good news is you gained 4.09 Bogomips :-)

You're starting to worry me!  I am using 2.6.7 which was installed by
sarge-i386-netinst-daily-build.iso (04/08/04).  I wish it were otherwise but
I haven't knowingly changed any of those settings :-/

On the whole it's working well.  A few things are bugging me, like the fan only
coming on with a reboot, and sleep/suspend functionality entirely lacking.
(This may simply be because I haven't figured out how to get them working yet,
beyond passing acpi=force as a kernel boot-parameter to enable acpi).

Have you got these working on your Inspiron?

> > If you think my suspicions may be correct and I need to recreate the device
> > file somehow, how would I do that and what would I call it?
> 
> I don't think, but "mknod" can be used to create some of these if you have 
> to..

Ta.

sebyte

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Re: Touchpad functionality dissappeared for no apparent reason!

2004-09-27 Thread Derek Broughton
On September 27, 2004 04:40 pm, Sebastian Tennant wrote:
> On Mon, 2004-09-27 at 19:46, Derek Broughton wrote:
>
> > 'modprobe psmouse' (will also insert hid and evdev, maybe others)
>
> Instant success!  They are now both working simultaneously again.
> 'psmouse' is not blacklisted so I've still no idea why it stopped being
> loaded at boot-time.  If I fiigure it out I'll post here.

I'm certain it has to do with order of initialization.  Perhaps if you created 
a script /etc/hotplug/usb/mousedev which would just do "modprobe psmouse"
 (I'm pretty sure there's actually a better way to do that...).  I had hoped 
that by compiling psmouse into the kernel it would fix the problem, but that 
just leaves me with less flexibility...

> Re: your set-up, it seems counter-intuitive to me but the following modules
> are blacklisted in my set-up and I had, (and now have again), both working
> no problem.
>
> usb-uhci
> usbcore

usb-uhci is blacklisted because the one you're actually going to use is 
probably  uhci_hcd (they perform the same function).  The alternative (and 
probably used in your 2.4 kernel) method would be an alias 
in /etc/modules.conf.  usbcore is blacklisted, iirc, to prevent it being 
loaded by any device directly.  It is always loaded as a dependency of 
usb-uhci or uhci-hcd.

Now, you've got me thinking that perhaps uhci-hcd should be blacklisted for 
the same reason - perhaps not.  The system probably can't actually recognize 
a USB connection until uhci is installed.

> #these drivers are very simple, the HID drivers are usually preferred
> usbmouse
> usbkbd

 If usbmouse is used (which depends on hidbp instead of hid and evdev) my USB 
mouse only works in a vertical orientation.  Not too useful :-)

> Thanks for your time Derek.

You're welcome.  This is stuff I've been puzzling over for months.  Note, 
you'll probably need to add psmouse to /etc/modules so that the touchpad is 
working next time you boot.
-- 
derek



Re: [Fwd: Re: Help with Dell 1150 wireless card in Dell 5100]

2004-09-27 Thread Chris Kacoroski

Hi,

Figured out the problem after checking out the ndiswrapper site.  The 
dell 5100's do not turn on the radio part of the card until you press 
Fn-F2.  Amazing how one keystroke can make all the difference.


Chris Kacoroski wrote:


Well, I went to the library tonight and the card would not work under 
mandrake 10 (it used to) or debian even though it shows up in wavemon. I 
am going to see if I can swap cards with a person at work as I suspect a 
hardware problem (either the card or the antenna in the laptop.


ski





General question on wireless

2004-09-27 Thread Chris Kacoroski

Hi,

Now that I have it working on the 5100, I have a question about what I 
am seeing in wavemon.  With a dell 1150 and drivers native to debian, I 
get a link quality of about 25/92, signal is about 30% of the bar and 
red, and I get both noise and a signal to noise ratio.


I also have a dell 1300 that I am using with the ndiswrapper and the 
latest xp drivers from dell.  With this card the link quality is 100%, 
signal level is -75db (red bar, about the same as the 1150), but there 
is no noise bar.or signal to noise ratio bar.


Which card is getting better reception?  Which one should I keep?  the 
1300 is supposedly a faster card (although it connected at the same 
11Mbits/sec -- I suppose this is all the base station in the library 
will support).  The 1300 does support scanning which the 1150 does not.


Is there a website that can help me get up to speed on wireless on linux 
and what are good numbers from a card/access point combination.  I have 
numbers, I just really do not know what they mean.


thanks very much.

ski


--
"When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it
 connected to the entire universe"John Muir

Chris "Ski" Kacoroski, [EMAIL PROTECTED], 435-681-0092



Re: General question on wireless

2004-09-27 Thread Michael Perry
On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 19:35:51 -0700, Chris Kacoroski
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Now that I have it working on the 5100, I have a question about what I
> am seeing in wavemon.  With a dell 1150 and drivers native to debian, I
> get a link quality of about 25/92, signal is about 30% of the bar and
> red, and I get both noise and a signal to noise ratio.
> 
> I also have a dell 1300 that I am using with the ndiswrapper and the
> latest xp drivers from dell.  With this card the link quality is 100%,
> signal level is -75db (red bar, about the same as the 1150), but there
> is no noise bar.or signal to noise ratio bar.
> 
> Which card is getting better reception?  Which one should I keep?  the
> 1300 is supposedly a faster card (although it connected at the same
> 11Mbits/sec -- I suppose this is all the base station in the library
> will support).  The 1300 does support scanning which the 1150 does not.
> 
> Is there a website that can help me get up to speed on wireless on linux
> and what are good numbers from a card/access point combination.  I have
> numbers, I just really do not know what they mean.
> 
> thanks very much.
> 
> ski
> 
> --

I've seen the same thing here.  Just a bit of background in my case. 
I have a WRT54G flashed with a later bios.  With a Orinoco Classic
Gold card that does 11b, I would normally see at the highest around a
link quality of about 40%.  I then went for linuxant and switched to
using the wpc54g cards which I had purchased for my XP laptop. 
Instantly the quality of the link went way up and I could see the
difference in downloads, web browsing, etc.  Wavemon tells me I am now
running at about 94% and it never varies from that.

I also got numerous disconnects or periods of time when the Orinoco
gold cards would somehow lose the AP I have.  Often it would occur for
minutes at  a time either on debian or XP Pro.  With the change in the
drivers to the linuxant drivers, this simply does not happen.

I can also set the WRT54G to operate at G only now and set the card to
have the highest and most optimum performance threshold in its
configuraiton.

I have not really found a downside to the card yet except for a bit of
manual nature sometimes bringing up the interface if I reboot the
laptop.  Luckily the reasons for rebooting the laptop are pretty slim
since it suspends very well most times.

Perhaps someone else can add a website or two they use.  I use a few
forums like dslreports.com and practicallynetworked.org for general
support.  There is also linksysinfo.org on the linksys stuff.
-- 
Michael Perry
[EMAIL PROTECTED]