Re: questions on ACPI
On Friday 23 January 2004 01:55, Russell Coker wrote: > > How do you then explain that without APM or ACPI, the fans do not start > > up leaving the system frozen after even small amounts of CPU load? > > Your laptop is broken and will never work with DOS, memtest86, etc. Good point. I never actually tried running the kernel without either APM or ACPI. It was always wither either the one or the other. It is possible that using APM, the BIOS was really just controlling the fans independently from the OS. Whenever I replaced APM with ACPI the OS would be unusable after a few minuttes because the fans would not start up, but of course this could just as easily have ACPI that was broken. Without any power management, the system wouldn't shut down using the poweroff command, so you have to manually shut it off. This is such a big annoyance that I never tried it without APM. So that's no reason not to buy an ASUS A1300. However if you really want a reason not to buy it, I would say the weak power plug on the back of the laptop. It has a tendency to wear so that it goes loose from the board. With the loose connection the laptop won't charge the battery, and when the battery runs dry.. This is a 150 euro repair job I could live without (it's the second time it has gone loose). Right now as a temporary fix I have placed a piece of folded up kitchen towel between the AC adaptor plug and the network plug. This squeezes the power plug so it just makes the connection, as long as I don't move the laptop around. Anders -- This email was generated using KMail from KDE 3.1.5 on Debian GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: questions on ACPI
On Wed, Jan 21, 2004 at 08:09:25PM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote: > On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 10:46:50AM +0100, S?bastien NOBILI wrote: > > >Dear All, > > > > > >I've just compiled 2.6.1 and switched onto ACPI from APM. 'acpid' is [...] > What version did you use? (send the output of cat > /proc/swsusp/debug_info). Here it goes: - SWSUSP Version : 2.0-rc3I - Kernel Version : 2.6.1 - Compiler vers. : 3.3 - Attempts made : 0 - RAM Available : 5564/39604 pages - HighMem: : 0/0 pages - Swap available : 61037. - Parameters : 0 0 0 0 0 32 - GZIP compressor enabled. - Debugging compiled in. - Preemptive kernel. > Up to what point does the suspend process go? Any error messages on the > screen or in /var/log/(syslog|kern.log|messages). Did you append the > line resume2=swap:/dev/ to the kernel (using lilo/grub > or whatever you are using?) > Anyway you are currently supposed to use echo > /proc/swsusp/activate 'resume2=...' is passed to the kernel (BTW: I have only one swap partition; can I use it for both "normal" operation and swsusp?). If using 'hibernate.sh' script which comes with swsusp (as downloaded from sourceforge), I'm getting to "progress screen", with progress bar at ~0%, then it freezes. Right now my syslog is disabled; I'll re-enable it and try again. Thanks for reply, -- Lukasz signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: cursor problem please help!!!!!
On Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 05:25:58PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > just got a toshiba laptop because we had this wretched little compaq (that we > will now drive over with an SUV and crush to a fine dust). the compaq had > this nefarious little quirk... as you passed the cursor over anything, an icon or > text, it would, as IT chose, select said icon (opening things left and right) > or said text (highlighting blocks of text) without you clicking on them. it > was extraordinarily disruptive, as it did it constantly. > If you change the hardware but the problem persists, the problem might be in the software. Did you install the same programs to this new laptop that you were running on the old? Then one of them may cause the problem. Perhaps you have copied a virus to the new laptop? Try also fixing the annoying problem of your keyboard not writing uppercase characters. -- Tapio Lehtonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG public key from http://www.iki.fi/Tapio.Lehtonen http://www.taleman.fi/ IT-alan asiantuntijapalvelut Porissa pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: questions on ACPI -- a follow up
On Wed, Jan 21, 2004 at 08:09:25PM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote: [...] > What version did you use? (send the output of cat > /proc/swsusp/debug_info). > Up to what point does the suspend process go? Any error messages on the > screen or in /var/log/(syslog|kern.log|messages). Did you append the > line resume2=swap:/dev/ to the kernel (using lilo/grub > or whatever you are using?) > Anyway you are currently supposed to use echo > /proc/swsusp/activate Just a quick question: how long does it take to swsusp? it seems that *something* happens when I try to hibernate (i.e. some data is written to swap/swsusp data space). When I restarted system, syslog said: --cut-- Jan 23 09:50:57 poppy kernel: SoftwareSuspend2: Swap space signature found. Jan 23 09:50:57 poppy kernel: Swsusp 2.0-rc3I: Checking for image... Jan 23 09:50:57 poppy kernel: SoftwareSuspend2: This is normal swap space. Jan 23 09:50:58 poppy kernel: PM: Reading pmdisk image. Jan 23 09:50:58 poppy kernel: PM: Resume from disk failed. --cut-- I reckon swsusp didn't complete writing. PS: does swsusp have any problems with USB? I started suspending with memory stick plugged in. When I unplugged it (with swsusp still in progress), progress bar jumped to ~60%. This was the moment data was actually written to disk (there was hdd activity). -- Lukasz signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: questions on ACPI
On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 19:11, Anders Ellenshøj Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 23 January 2004 01:55, Russell Coker wrote: > > > How do you then explain that without APM or ACPI, the fans do not start > > > up leaving the system frozen after even small amounts of CPU load? > > > > Your laptop is broken and will never work with DOS, memtest86, etc. > > Good point. I never actually tried running the kernel without either APM or > ACPI. It was always wither either the one or the other. It is possible that > using APM, the BIOS was really just controlling the fans independently from > the OS. Whenever I replaced APM with ACPI the OS would be unusable after a > few minuttes because the fans would not start up, but of course this could > just as easily have ACPI that was broken. Previously you said that when there was neither APM nor ACPI the fan would not start. Now you say that when ACPI was enabled the fan would not start which is a common symptom of broken ACPI (bugs like this are the reason I have never tried ACPI and have no plans for trying it on hardware I own). > Without any power management, the system wouldn't shut down using the > poweroff command, so you have to manually shut it off. This is such a big > annoyance that I never tried it without APM. If you try testing these things or read the specs you will discover that APM is only used for managing suspend/hibernation and power off. APM allows the OS to instruct the hardware to enter a suspend or hibernation state or to shut the machine down entirely. When the hardware decides that it is time to suspend or hibernate (IE closing the lid, low battery, or Fn key press) then if the OS has claimed support for APM then the hardware will ask the OS what to do. Apmd will run some scripts if it's installed, and if all goes well the operation will be permitted. The kernel should be able to provide minimal APM functionality without apmd. If the OS has not claimed APM support (DOS) then the hardware will do the suspend/hibernation without any interaction with the OS. For some reason a non-APM Linux system will not work with suspend/hibernation while DOS will. -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: questions on ACPI
On Friday 23 January 2004 10:28, Russell Coker wrote: > Previously you said that when there was neither APM nor ACPI the fan would > not start. Now you say that when ACPI was enabled the fan would not start > which is a common symptom of broken ACPI (bugs like this are the reason I > have never tried ACPI and have no plans for trying it on hardware I own). Obviously because I thought it also had at least some kind of influence on fan control. I knew it handled poweroff. > > Without any power management, the system wouldn't shut down using the > > poweroff command, so you have to manually shut it off. This is such a big > > annoyance that I never tried it without APM. > > If you try testing these things or read the specs you will discover that Well I'm sorry. I don't have time to test every component of my system or read all the man pages. When I get a configuration that works, I will likely leave it at that. I guess most people feel the same way. If the fan control with APM was misconception, it should be clear to people now. I now use ACPI and everything works, except for various leds and hotkeys which are supposed to be supported by the acpi4asus patch. I am looking into that at the moment, because having led and hotkey control would be kinda cool. Anders -- This email was generated using KMail from KDE 3.1.5 on Debian GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Just some questions
Gnoppix? Have you tried Morphix as well? On Thu, 22 Jan 2004, [ISO-8859-1] Martin Röhricht wrote: > On 22.01.2004 18:11 Hermann Moser wrote: > > On Wednesday, 21. January 2004 23:48, M. Mueller wrote: > >> Try Knoppix first - runs off CD. Then google on how to load Knoppix > >> to your hard disk. > > > > On my new laptop, Asus M6800N, Knoppix V 3.3 always freezes if I'm > > working with the ac-adaptor, without mostly not. Now it runs with SuSE > > 9.0, but this is not my favourite. Next week I will try a Sarge > > netinstall, Debian is my favourite, nothing else. > > Hi Hermann, > > I had the same problem here with my still brandly new Acer Travelmate > 803LMiB -- Knoppix 3.3 just freezes by starting X. We worked out, that > we were able to do the same thing with Gnoppix. By the way -- if you > want to make a hard drive installation of such a live CD, I would > recommend Gnoppix, as it is a clean stable Debian (with backports, for > sure). I used it for the installation on this laptop and upgraded from > stable to unstable to get the bleeding edge ;-) > > Bye, > Martin > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel 2.6 X11 and radeon M7500
On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 11:36:39 -0800, Elaine Tsiang YueLien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Reading between the lines on this thread, I gather there is no problem getting full X functionality (including 3D acceleraton) with ATI Radeon Mobility 7500 only kernel 2.4 only X11 4.3 (maybe with patch?) I am looking at a Thinkpad R40. I confirm that is the case with a Thinkpad A31, using APM the suspends/resume even works under X! a revolution! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: questions on ACPI
Try filing a bug report on bugzilla.kernel.org, check out acpi.sf.net to find out what the bug report should entail. Len and friends are squashing a lot of laptop bugs, related to ACPI. On Fri, 23 Jan 2004, Anders [iso-8859-1] Ellenshøj Andersen wrote: > On Friday 23 January 2004 01:55, Russell Coker wrote: > > > How do you then explain that without APM or ACPI, the fans do not start > > > up leaving the system frozen after even small amounts of CPU load? > > > > Your laptop is broken and will never work with DOS, memtest86, etc. > > Good point. I never actually tried running the kernel without either APM or > ACPI. It was always wither either the one or the other. It is possible that > using APM, the BIOS was really just controlling the fans independently from > the OS. Whenever I replaced APM with ACPI the OS would be unusable after a > few minuttes because the fans would not start up, but of course this could > just as easily have ACPI that was broken. > > Without any power management, the system wouldn't shut down using the poweroff > command, so you have to manually shut it off. This is such a big annoyance > that I never tried it without APM. > > So that's no reason not to buy an ASUS A1300. However if you really want a > reason not to buy it, I would say the weak power plug on the back of the > laptop. It has a tendency to wear so that it goes loose from the board. With > the loose connection the laptop won't charge the battery, and when the > battery runs dry.. > > This is a 150 euro repair job I could live without (it's the second time it > has gone loose). Right now as a temporary fix I have placed a piece of folded > up kitchen towel between the AC adaptor plug and the network plug. This > squeezes the power plug so it just makes the connection, as long as I don't > move the laptop around. > > Anders > > -- > This email was generated using KMail from KDE 3.1.5 on Debian GNU/Linux > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: questions on ACPI
On Friday 23 January 2004 10:44, Arjen Verweij wrote: > Try filing a bug report on bugzilla.kernel.org, check out acpi.sf.net to > find out what the bug report should entail. Len and friends are squashing > a lot of laptop bugs, related to ACPI. As I wrote a couple of times previously, it works as of kernel 2.6.0. Any issues I have is with leds and hotkeys. I am presently trying to resolve that on the acpi4asus mailinglist. Anders -- This email was generated using KMail from KDE 3.1.5 on Debian GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Samsung T10 - Graphics card query...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve wrote: Hi Guys I can get Debian 3.0 r2 installed on my Samsung T10 no problem. The only problem is, is that I have to use the VESA drivers and they don't give options for 1400 x 1050 screen resolution, the nearest is 1280 x 1024. GNome works fine (KDE hangs and gos back to the log in??) but obviously the graphics quality is far from optimised. So, has any one got a similar setup to mine, had the same problems and sorted them? The graphics card is an ATI Mobility Radeon 7500 Thanks Steve I manually edited XF86Config-4 to get my resolution to 1400x1050, also using radeon drivers (had to set framebuffer to false) running a mishmash of debian, kernel 2.4.24 with radeon enabled I can send you my XF86Config-4 if you like, and also my kernel configuration if that may be useful. cheers, Ben. That would be really helpful if you wouldn't mind. Also, how did you turn on radeon in the kernel? Thanks Steve -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian vs... ? (was RE: powerbook and debian)
On Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 12:25:24PM -0500, James Horton wrote: > Debian Testing, can use a 2.6.x kernel, today. I do not believe, > but I'm not certain, that RH does not TODAY have 2.6.x kernels > available. What's important about 2.6.x ? Forgive me, but I'll argue all of these are very bad reasons to use Debian. When you choose a distribution, that choice will stick with you for years. Choosing Debian because it has Linux 2.6 now, when RedHat will probably have it in a couple of months, is silly. Indeed, it's similar to choosing RedHat because it has KDE3.2 now, when Debian won't have it before another few months (more or less -- I don't know what is the current version of KDE, but you get my drift). Besides, compiling your own 2.6 is easy enough that you could do it on RedHat too. > Another approach to take, is let the others use RedHat. You use Debian. > Let them waist time and money. You can find a really good Debian consultant > to help yourself(if you need it. I'm guessing you do not really need help). > You run more (debian) servers and features that they do not have > running or 'happy' on RH. Competition, which is healthy, is over OTOH this is a good approach. We started with a good deal of RedHat servers here, because "it's supported and everyone uses it" (another bad reason, everyone really uses MS Windows). Then upgrading pains started. Then I installed a trial Debian server. Then we decided to move all the development servers to Debian because that was the only way to keep their software in sync easily, and RedHat only remains on one database server, because that database's vendor supports RedHat. Too bad, we'll have to ditch them :-). Anyway, now most people here swear by Debian for its ease of upgrading and maintaining. Only one guy also uses Gentoo at home, for fun more than anything. > >This might be off-topic, but Yves started it :) I didn't mean to troll, it was really down to "why would anyone use any OS in the first place". MacOS might be good, but I'm sure you could find reasons to use anything else instead. And I'm sure there'd be reasons to use MacOS in place of Debian, too. > >We're evaluating a professional platform that can run > >enterprise applications. We need reliability, good > >threading, responsiveness, stability, performance, but > >also easy management (if there's such a thing) and good > >support. Debian has easy management, RedHat has good support. There might be firms supporting Debian commercially, too. > >So could anybody give serious reasons as to why RH is > >bad, Debian is better ? I've looked on Google but I > >didn't find a real serious report. Well, the very core of RedHat's business is paradoxal: they sell (mostly) support (note that I know they're bringing in a new business and support model, so some of these comments might not apply anymore). So, the best for them is an OS that would install easily (hook the customer), but where maintenance is difficult (get them to pay for support). Debian tends to be exactly the other way round: people install once, but spend a lifetime maintaining the system, so the packaging system is so much better, but installing any new service can be challenging (esp. new hardware. Software install is usually very easy). That's exactly how RedHat was last time I had to use it: install was trivial, it was very good at using new hardware, and probably comes with a bunch of stuff pre-configured out of the box (printing system, file shares and so on). But from that on, upgrading anything was a pain. And my last installation of a pcmcia wireless card on Debian took me most of an evening, but security updates are made trivial. That said, RedHat has also evolved a lot, and now has apt-get as well I hear; Debian's install and hardware detection is to become much better in Sarge. I don't guess this helps much. Sorry. :-) Y. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: questions on ACPI -- a follow up
Note to debian folk: [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the proper ML for this discussion On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:02:44 +0100 Lukasz Wiechec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jan 21, 2004 at 08:09:25PM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote: > > [...] > > > What version did you use? (send the output of cat > > /proc/swsusp/debug_info). > > Up to what point does the suspend process go? Any error messages on the > > screen or in /var/log/(syslog|kern.log|messages). Did you append the > > line resume2=swap:/dev/ to the kernel (using lilo/grub > > or whatever you are using?) > > Anyway you are currently supposed to use echo > /proc/swsusp/activate > > Just a quick question: how long does it take to swsusp? it seems that > *something* happens when I try to hibernate (i.e. some data is written > to swap/swsusp data space). When I restarted system, syslog said: > > --cut-- > Jan 23 09:50:57 poppy kernel: SoftwareSuspend2: Swap space signature > found. > Jan 23 09:50:57 poppy kernel: Swsusp 2.0-rc3I: Checking for image... > Jan 23 09:50:57 poppy kernel: SoftwareSuspend2: This is normal swap > space. > Jan 23 09:50:58 poppy kernel: PM: Reading pmdisk image. > Jan 23 09:50:58 poppy kernel: PM: Resume from disk failed. > --cut-- > > I reckon swsusp didn't complete writing. > > PS: does swsusp have any problems with USB? I started suspending with > memory stick plugged in. When I unplugged it (with swsusp still in > progress), progress bar jumped to ~60%. This was the moment data was > actually written to disk (there was hdd activity). Yes, there are known problems with USB; you should have all USB modules removed from the kernel during suspension. Also, you can try turning on debug (needs to be compiled in, and can be activated through /proc/swsusp/) For me (2.6.1-rc1 with rc3I), the progress bar progresses at a relatively constant rate; it takes my box about 15-25 seconds (512 megs of mem, 768 megs of swap space, 1400MHz proc) You may want to check the mailing list archives for usage documentation (subject "Test patch 2L.", Thu, 04 Dec 2003 18:39:13 +1300). The docs on the website may be up-to-date now as well (swsusp.sourceforge.net) > > -- > Lukasz > > -- | Don't show me the palm tree, show me the dates. | | Afghan Proverb | ) http://www.cuodan.net/~xsdg/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ( pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian vs... ? (was RE: powerbook and debian)
On Fri, 2004-01-23 at 04:08, Yves Rutschle wrote: > On Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 12:25:24PM -0500, James Horton wrote: > > Debian Testing, can use a 2.6.x kernel, today. I do not believe, > > but I'm not certain, that RH does not TODAY have 2.6.x kernels > > available. http://people.redhat.com/arjanv/2.5/RPMS.kernel/ (i.e. Redhat has a 2.6 kernel available, and has had one available for a good long time) And, FWIW, the above URL is the "feeling lucky" result of a google search for "redhat kernel 2.6 rpm". So it's not like it's hard to find :) However, availability of precompiled bleeding edge unstable kernels is not (IMO) a good reason to prefer one distro over another. (i.e. if you're interested in bleeding edge kernels, I'd hope you would be comfortable compiling your own :o) [...] > Anyway, now most people here swear by Debian for its ease of > upgrading and maintaining. Only one guy also uses Gentoo at > home, for fun more than anything. FWIW, now that apt4rpm is available (or up2date, if you want to pay for and drink the Red Hat Kool-Aid), the ease of upgrading & maintaining the two is roughly equal. > Debian has easy management, RedHat has good support. Well, as someone that has had to deal with Red Hat enterprise "support" occasionally, I'd probably modify that statement to something more like "Red Hat is very good at collecting money for support". > There > might be firms supporting Debian commercially, too. http://www.debian.org/consultants/ lists 434 of them all over the world. And that doesn't even count companies like linuxcare, progeny, xandros, etc... Also see http://www.debian.org/support.html for various other support avenues (like this mailing list :o) > > >So could anybody give serious reasons as to why RH is > > >bad, Debian is better ? I've looked on Google but I > > >didn't find a real serious report. Here's what it boils down to for me: -- Red Hat is a relatively small corporation, and as such, it's main focus is generating revenue, and making its stockholders happy. -- Debian is a large community whose main focus is social responsibility, preserving freedom, and building the best GNU/linux distribution on the planet. -- Red Hat has a few hundred paid developers whose job is to make Red Hat Linux into a product that can make money for the corporation. -- Debian has thousands of unpaid developers whose interests and abilities are widely divergent, but who share a passion for free software (and GNU/Linux in particular). These value differences are reflected in the resulting distributions: -- Red Hat has a very pretty and easy to use installer, and very pretty, easy to use, and consistent management GUI tools. Red Hat is a relatively small distribution (the entire distro fits on 3 CDs), with package and architecture selection based on popularity and wide appeal (or the amount of money a hardware vendor is willing to pay to have their hardware supported by RH). The enterprise Red Hat (the only one where official Red Hat support is available) is decidedly anti-free, and requires you to pay a (rather large) yearly subscription fee, even to get security updates. Red Hat does not make binary versions of its enterprise distro available unless you pay the subscription fee. -- Debian has a reasonably solid (if not terribly good looking :) installer, and solid management tools (some of which have GUI front-ends of widely varying quality). Debian is a huge distribution (sarge takes up 12 CDs, last I saw), and packages and architectures are selected based on whether there are debian developers interested in maintaining them. The result is that there are a *lot* more widely varying packages and supported architectures in debian, and since the developer has a personal interest in the package, it's generally maintained very well. Debian is very much a free distribution, and binary packages as well as security updates are made available in the most convenient forms possible for users. Which one is "best"? That's like asking "which one is better, ice cream or frozen yogurt?" It depends on what you value. I've tried to give you a feeling for what the two distros value, now you have to decide which one you like better. Cheers! -- Brett Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - i n v e n t - -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Swsusp-devel] Re: questions on ACPI -- a follow up
Hi. > > I reckon swsusp didn't complete writing. There is a problem in 2.6 with drive caches not being properly flushed - this is the cause of your issue. You might try adding a mdelay in kernel/power/swsusp2.c, just before the sys_reboot call that powers down the machine. It's less than ideal, but should work as a stop-gap measure. Regards, Nigel -- My work on Software Suspend is graciously brought to you by LinuxFund.org. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: kernel 2.6 X11 and radeon M7500
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >>Am Mi, den 21.01.2004 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED] um 15:01: >> >> >>>Has anyone else experienced problems with kernel 2.6, X11 and radeon >>>M7500 graphics card? >>>when I boot 2.6 everything goes ok until X11 starts, then the screen >>>just blanks. no errors appear in XF86 log either. >>>any suggestions would be appreciated. I have the same problem. I have tried the kernel-source-2.6.0 from apt-get , kernel-source-2.6.0 and kernel-source 2.6.1 from www.kernel.org - same problem. Now I am running 2.4.24 and everything works fine. I you can figure out what's wrong - please mail me. Regards, Andi Ps.: I have a Samsung P10 with Radeon M7500. - -- Andreas Rath StRV Mathematik /_\ | | Email: arath (at) gmx (dot) at Student of Tech.Mathematics and/ \| \ http://www.htu.tugraz.at/teddius Software Development & Knowledge Management @ Graz Univ. of Technology Maintainer of the OGO-JOGI Project @ http://ogo-jogi.sourceforge.net -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAEYHqVuaSibzhdmQRAt1WAKChRQWSOVd3JPGiPu2ctx56cNRl7ACfdeuN 4JtrTquI2Fi4LPmLy/se4F4= =FLvx -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2.6.1 custom kernel and cpufrqd problems
Hello, I have compiled for my Crusoe laptop the following into my new kernel: CPU_FREQ CPU_FREQ_DEFAULT_GOV_USERSPACE CPU_FREQ_GOV_POWERSAVE CPU_FREQ_GOV_USERSPACE CPU_FREQ_TABLE X86_LONGRUN However, if I do 'dpkg-reconfigure cpufreqd' I keep getting this error: >Unable to find a CpuFreq interface in your kernel. Any hints as to what I am doing wrong? Thanks, Joh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problems with hp nx9010
Hi all: I recently bought an hp (compaq) nx9010 and I cannot get it work correctly under 2.6.0. I realized that the company has updates for the BIOS and installed the lattest one. However, the ACPI bios seems to be buggy. 2.4 kernels work perfectly, but as the laptop has not apm support and I haven't installed any acpi patch, the battery and such doesn't work. OK, but I tried with 2.6.0 (instaled from the debian package archive), and find some strange things that I really don't know how to handle. First, this is the /proc/cpuinfo: processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 15 model : 2 model name : Mobile Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.06GHz stepping: 9 cpu MHz : 3057.053 cache size : 512 KB physical id : 0 siblings: 1 fdiv_bug: no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug: no coma_bug: no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 2 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe cid bogomips: 3046891.52 What is this strange bogomips value??? Anyway, I see from the /proc/acpi that there is no fan control, but the processor temperature meter works OK. However, the greatest problem of all is that the X-Window seems to freeze for one or two seconds whenever it decides. It seems that it is a X-Win problem, as the wireless pcmcia card continues working... In the freezes, sometimes the last key pressed seems to stay pressed during these two seconds, and after that, a lot of keystrokes appear. I have some dmesg logs that are interesting and I cannot explain, so I would like anybody in this list that knows more than I do can help me: Jan 23 23:46:40 d kernel: CPU: Trace cache: 12K uops, L1 D cache: 8K Jan 23 23:46:40 d kernel: CPU: L2 cache: 512K Jan 23 23:46:40 d kernel: CPU: Hyper-Threading is disabled Jan 23 23:46:40 d kernel: Intel machine check architecture supported. Jan 23 23:46:40 d kernel: Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0. Jan 23 23:46:40 d kernel: CPU#0: Intel P4/Xeon Extended MCE MSRs (12) available Jan 23 23:46:40 d kernel: CPU#0: Thermal monitoring enabled Jan 23 23:46:40 d kernel: Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done. Jan 23 23:46:40 d kernel: Enabling unmasked SIMD FPU exception support... done. Jan 23 23:46:40 d kernel: Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK. Jan 23 23:46:40 d kernel: POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX Jan 23 23:46:40 d kernel: CPU0: Intel Mobile Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.06GHz stepping 09 Jan 23 23:46:40 d kernel: per-CPU timeslice cutoff: 1462.68 usecs. Jan 23 23:46:40 d kernel: task migration cache decay timeout: 2 msecs. First, it says HT is disabled, but I haven't seen any option in the BIOS to activate it. How do I know if he CPU supports HT? Anther interesting bit is that one: Jan 23 23:46:40 d kernel: ACPI: Processor [CPU0] (supports C1 C2) Jan 23 23:46:40 d kernel: cpufreq: CPU0 - ACPI performance management activated.Jan 23 23:46:40 d kernel: cpufreq: *P0: 3059 MHz, 2 mW, 250 uS Jan 23 23:46:40 d kernel: cpufreq: P1: 1596 MHz, 1 mW, 250 uS Jan 23 23:46:40 d kernel: cpufreq: No CPUs supporting ACPI performance management found. What does this mean? As far as I see, CPU0 supports two working modes, P0 and P1, but why does it say that no CPU support ACPI??? I have also loaded the p4-clockmod module and it works. I can switch between powersave and performance, but I'm not sure how I can control directly the two working modes (If I could, I could switch to 1.5GHz when the AC is off). The AC, battery, etc. modules work, but still the X hangs regularly for two seconds or so... Any hints? Really thanks in advance, diego -- Diego Sevilla Ruiz -- http://ditec.um.es/~dsevilla/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _.___ Dep. Ingeniería y Tecnología de Computadores, Facultad de Informática D|TEC Univ.de Murcia,Campus Espinardo,30080 Murcia (SPAIN),Tel.+34968367658 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2.6.1 custom kernel and cpufrqd problems
Hi, Johannes: On Fri, Jan 23, 2004 at 01:50:14PM -0800, Johannes Graumann wrote: | Hello, | | I have compiled for my Crusoe laptop the following into my new kernel: | CPU_FREQ | CPU_FREQ_DEFAULT_GOV_USERSPACE | CPU_FREQ_GOV_POWERSAVE | CPU_FREQ_GOV_USERSPACE | CPU_FREQ_TABLE | X86_LONGRUN | | However, if I do 'dpkg-reconfigure cpufreqd' I keep getting this error: | >Unable to find a CpuFreq interface in your kernel. | Have you mounted the /sys filesystem? I think that's your problem. Best regards, diego -- Diego Sevilla Ruiz -- http://ditec.um.es/~dsevilla/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _.___ Dep. Ingeniería y Tecnología de Computadores, Facultad de Informática D|TEC Univ.de Murcia,Campus Espinardo,30080 Murcia (SPAIN),Tel.+34968367658 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mini-pci modem (not winModem)
Hi all, i am looking for a mini-pci modem for my dell laptop : - is it possible to find a real modem in mini pci format ? - if it has to be a soft modem, i need one that works with linux/bsd thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2.6.1 custom kernel and cpufrqd problems
Hello, Thanks for the hint. I indeed don't have anything like that setup. Can you tell me what the fstab entry necessary is? Thanks, Joh On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 23:27:28 +0100 Diego Sevilla Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, Johannes: > > On Fri, Jan 23, 2004 at 01:50:14PM -0800, Johannes Graumann wrote: > > | Hello, > | > | I have compiled for my Crusoe laptop the following into my new > kernel:| CPU_FREQ > | CPU_FREQ_DEFAULT_GOV_USERSPACE > | CPU_FREQ_GOV_POWERSAVE > | CPU_FREQ_GOV_USERSPACE > | CPU_FREQ_TABLE > | X86_LONGRUN > | > | However, if I do 'dpkg-reconfigure cpufreqd' I keep getting this > error: | >Unable to find a CpuFreq interface in your kernel. > | > > Have you mounted the /sys filesystem? I think that's your problem. > > Best regards, > diego > > -- > Diego Sevilla Ruiz -- http://ditec.um.es/~dsevilla/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _.___ Dep. Ingeniería y Tecnología de Computadores, Facultad de > Informática D|TEC Univ.de Murcia,Campus Espinardo,30080 Murcia > (SPAIN),Tel.+34968367658 > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2.6.1 custom kernel and cpufrqd problems
On Fri, Jan 23, 2004 at 03:21:58PM -0800, Johannes Graumann wrote: > Hello, > > Thanks for the hint. I indeed don't have anything like that setup. Can > you tell me what the fstab entry necessary is? make sure sys exists. for temporarily experimenting with sysfs use: sudo mount -t sysfs sys /sys once your happy here's the fstab entry sys /syssysfs defaults0 0 diane -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
kernel and fram buffer
to all, how do i add frame buffer support into kernel? i've just one through installation and was told to add frame buffer support. i am a newbie trying to dig in debian, thanks. theo = Theodore -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2.6.1 custom kernel and cpufrqd problems
On Fri, Jan 23, 2004 at 01:50:14PM -0800, Johannes Graumann wrote: > Hello, > > I have compiled for my Crusoe laptop the following into my new kernel: > CPU_FREQ > CPU_FREQ_DEFAULT_GOV_USERSPACE > CPU_FREQ_GOV_POWERSAVE > CPU_FREQ_GOV_USERSPACE > CPU_FREQ_TABLE > X86_LONGRUN > > However, if I do 'dpkg-reconfigure cpufreqd' I keep getting this error: > >Unable to find a CpuFreq interface in your kernel. > > Any hints as to what I am doing wrong? Crusoe processor do not need any kind of governors. Please look at Documentation/cpu-freq/user-guide.txt why. To resume, this processor is able to determine itself what will be the correct frequency to run, according to two kind of policies (powersave and performance). Therefore, this processor don't need any kind of software like cpufreqd in order to switch frequencies. Since the cpufreqd is a daemon that should use the userspace governor IIRC, it is a bad idea to apt-get install cpufreqd, or any daemon, which use actually the userspace governor. (Of course, installing a daemon that will set one of powersave or performance policy depending of AC presence is a good idea, but if you enable ACPI, you should be able to do that via acpid(8)). Instead, you have under /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0 some files which will show the current policy, and the min and max at which the processor is allowed to run, according to that policy. Soon, you should be able to get the current frequency as well (just that CPUFreq developpers forgot that feature...). Cheers, -- Ducrot Bruno -- Which is worse: ignorance or apathy? -- Don't know. Don't care. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to mount and access ntfs partition as regular user
Hi, I'm fairly new to Linux, and have installed debian woody release 2 with the bf24 kernel on my notebook alongside a windows xp ntfs partition (which resides on hda1). I enabled ntfs support in the kernel during installation, but I'm not sure how to get access to the ntfs partition for non-root users. I've done some google searches, and it looks like I have to edit the /etc/fstab file, but I'm missing something because I still can't access the xp partition. Thanks in advance for any help. Tim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel and fram buffer
* Theodore Chou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [040124 01:06]: > how do i add frame buffer support into kernel? i've > just one through installation and was told to add > frame buffer support. i am a newbie trying to dig in > debian, thanks. The Debian-Kernels come with compiled in framebuffer support. If you see a penguin-Logo in the upper left corner, when you boot, it works. If not you should tell us, which graphics interface your notebook has (or at least: which notebook you are using). Yours sincerely, Alexander signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: How to mount and access ntfs partition as regular user
On Fri, Jan 23, 2004 at 06:43:43PM -0700, Tim Folger wrote: > Hi, > > I'm fairly new to Linux, and have installed debian woody release 2 with > the bf24 kernel on my notebook alongside a windows xp ntfs partition > (which resides on hda1). I enabled ntfs support in the kernel during > installation, but I'm not sure how to get access to the ntfs partition > for non-root users. I've done some google searches, and it looks like I > have to edit the /etc/fstab file, but I'm missing something because I > still can't access the xp partition. > I think the following line should do it: /dev/hda1 /mntntfs umask=0222 0 0 you may need to put default,umask=0222 I think the default is implied. You can change /mnt to wherever you want it mounted. You do know that currently there is no write support to ntfs, its read only. > Thanks in advance for any help. > > Tim > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: questions on ACPI
On Friday 23 January 2004 01:55, Russell Coker wrote: > > How do you then explain that without APM or ACPI, the fans do not start > > up leaving the system frozen after even small amounts of CPU load? > > Your laptop is broken and will never work with DOS, memtest86, etc. Good point. I never actually tried running the kernel without either APM or ACPI. It was always wither either the one or the other. It is possible that using APM, the BIOS was really just controlling the fans independently from the OS. Whenever I replaced APM with ACPI the OS would be unusable after a few minuttes because the fans would not start up, but of course this could just as easily have ACPI that was broken. Without any power management, the system wouldn't shut down using the poweroff command, so you have to manually shut it off. This is such a big annoyance that I never tried it without APM. So that's no reason not to buy an ASUS A1300. However if you really want a reason not to buy it, I would say the weak power plug on the back of the laptop. It has a tendency to wear so that it goes loose from the board. With the loose connection the laptop won't charge the battery, and when the battery runs dry.. This is a 150 euro repair job I could live without (it's the second time it has gone loose). Right now as a temporary fix I have placed a piece of folded up kitchen towel between the AC adaptor plug and the network plug. This squeezes the power plug so it just makes the connection, as long as I don't move the laptop around. Anders -- This email was generated using KMail from KDE 3.1.5 on Debian GNU/Linux
Re: questions on ACPI
On Wed, Jan 21, 2004 at 08:09:25PM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote: > On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 10:46:50AM +0100, S?bastien NOBILI wrote: > > >Dear All, > > > > > >I've just compiled 2.6.1 and switched onto ACPI from APM. 'acpid' is [...] > What version did you use? (send the output of cat > /proc/swsusp/debug_info). Here it goes: - SWSUSP Version : 2.0-rc3I - Kernel Version : 2.6.1 - Compiler vers. : 3.3 - Attempts made : 0 - RAM Available : 5564/39604 pages - HighMem: : 0/0 pages - Swap available : 61037. - Parameters : 0 0 0 0 0 32 - GZIP compressor enabled. - Debugging compiled in. - Preemptive kernel. > Up to what point does the suspend process go? Any error messages on the > screen or in /var/log/(syslog|kern.log|messages). Did you append the > line resume2=swap:/dev/ to the kernel (using lilo/grub > or whatever you are using?) > Anyway you are currently supposed to use echo > /proc/swsusp/activate 'resume2=...' is passed to the kernel (BTW: I have only one swap partition; can I use it for both "normal" operation and swsusp?). If using 'hibernate.sh' script which comes with swsusp (as downloaded from sourceforge), I'm getting to "progress screen", with progress bar at ~0%, then it freezes. Right now my syslog is disabled; I'll re-enable it and try again. Thanks for reply, -- Lukasz signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: cursor problem please help!!!!!
On Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 05:25:58PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > just got a toshiba laptop because we had this wretched little compaq (that we > will now drive over with an SUV and crush to a fine dust). the compaq had > this nefarious little quirk... as you passed the cursor over anything, an > icon or > text, it would, as IT chose, select said icon (opening things left and right) > or said text (highlighting blocks of text) without you clicking on them. it > was extraordinarily disruptive, as it did it constantly. > If you change the hardware but the problem persists, the problem might be in the software. Did you install the same programs to this new laptop that you were running on the old? Then one of them may cause the problem. Perhaps you have copied a virus to the new laptop? Try also fixing the annoying problem of your keyboard not writing uppercase characters. -- Tapio Lehtonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG public key from http://www.iki.fi/Tapio.Lehtonen http://www.taleman.fi/ IT-alan asiantuntijapalvelut Porissa pgp6UpJ6lF4yz.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: questions on ACPI -- a follow up
On Wed, Jan 21, 2004 at 08:09:25PM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote: [...] > What version did you use? (send the output of cat > /proc/swsusp/debug_info). > Up to what point does the suspend process go? Any error messages on the > screen or in /var/log/(syslog|kern.log|messages). Did you append the > line resume2=swap:/dev/ to the kernel (using lilo/grub > or whatever you are using?) > Anyway you are currently supposed to use echo > /proc/swsusp/activate Just a quick question: how long does it take to swsusp? it seems that *something* happens when I try to hibernate (i.e. some data is written to swap/swsusp data space). When I restarted system, syslog said: --cut-- Jan 23 09:50:57 poppy kernel: SoftwareSuspend2: Swap space signature found. Jan 23 09:50:57 poppy kernel: Swsusp 2.0-rc3I: Checking for image... Jan 23 09:50:57 poppy kernel: SoftwareSuspend2: This is normal swap space. Jan 23 09:50:58 poppy kernel: PM: Reading pmdisk image. Jan 23 09:50:58 poppy kernel: PM: Resume from disk failed. --cut-- I reckon swsusp didn't complete writing. PS: does swsusp have any problems with USB? I started suspending with memory stick plugged in. When I unplugged it (with swsusp still in progress), progress bar jumped to ~60%. This was the moment data was actually written to disk (there was hdd activity). -- Lukasz signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: questions on ACPI
On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 19:11, Anders Ellenshøj Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 23 January 2004 01:55, Russell Coker wrote: > > > How do you then explain that without APM or ACPI, the fans do not start > > > up leaving the system frozen after even small amounts of CPU load? > > > > Your laptop is broken and will never work with DOS, memtest86, etc. > > Good point. I never actually tried running the kernel without either APM or > ACPI. It was always wither either the one or the other. It is possible that > using APM, the BIOS was really just controlling the fans independently from > the OS. Whenever I replaced APM with ACPI the OS would be unusable after a > few minuttes because the fans would not start up, but of course this could > just as easily have ACPI that was broken. Previously you said that when there was neither APM nor ACPI the fan would not start. Now you say that when ACPI was enabled the fan would not start which is a common symptom of broken ACPI (bugs like this are the reason I have never tried ACPI and have no plans for trying it on hardware I own). > Without any power management, the system wouldn't shut down using the > poweroff command, so you have to manually shut it off. This is such a big > annoyance that I never tried it without APM. If you try testing these things or read the specs you will discover that APM is only used for managing suspend/hibernation and power off. APM allows the OS to instruct the hardware to enter a suspend or hibernation state or to shut the machine down entirely. When the hardware decides that it is time to suspend or hibernate (IE closing the lid, low battery, or Fn key press) then if the OS has claimed support for APM then the hardware will ask the OS what to do. Apmd will run some scripts if it's installed, and if all goes well the operation will be permitted. The kernel should be able to provide minimal APM functionality without apmd. If the OS has not claimed APM support (DOS) then the hardware will do the suspend/hibernation without any interaction with the OS. For some reason a non-APM Linux system will not work with suspend/hibernation while DOS will. -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page
Re: questions on ACPI
On Friday 23 January 2004 10:28, Russell Coker wrote: > Previously you said that when there was neither APM nor ACPI the fan would > not start. Now you say that when ACPI was enabled the fan would not start > which is a common symptom of broken ACPI (bugs like this are the reason I > have never tried ACPI and have no plans for trying it on hardware I own). Obviously because I thought it also had at least some kind of influence on fan control. I knew it handled poweroff. > > Without any power management, the system wouldn't shut down using the > > poweroff command, so you have to manually shut it off. This is such a big > > annoyance that I never tried it without APM. > > If you try testing these things or read the specs you will discover that Well I'm sorry. I don't have time to test every component of my system or read all the man pages. When I get a configuration that works, I will likely leave it at that. I guess most people feel the same way. If the fan control with APM was misconception, it should be clear to people now. I now use ACPI and everything works, except for various leds and hotkeys which are supposed to be supported by the acpi4asus patch. I am looking into that at the moment, because having led and hotkey control would be kinda cool. Anders -- This email was generated using KMail from KDE 3.1.5 on Debian GNU/Linux
Re: Just some questions
Gnoppix? Have you tried Morphix as well? On Thu, 22 Jan 2004, [ISO-8859-1] Martin R?hricht wrote: > On 22.01.2004 18:11 Hermann Moser wrote: > > On Wednesday, 21. January 2004 23:48, M. Mueller wrote: > >> Try Knoppix first - runs off CD. Then google on how to load Knoppix > >> to your hard disk. > > > > On my new laptop, Asus M6800N, Knoppix V 3.3 always freezes if I'm > > working with the ac-adaptor, without mostly not. Now it runs with SuSE > > 9.0, but this is not my favourite. Next week I will try a Sarge > > netinstall, Debian is my favourite, nothing else. > > Hi Hermann, > > I had the same problem here with my still brandly new Acer Travelmate > 803LMiB -- Knoppix 3.3 just freezes by starting X. We worked out, that > we were able to do the same thing with Gnoppix. By the way -- if you > want to make a hard drive installation of such a live CD, I would > recommend Gnoppix, as it is a clean stable Debian (with backports, for > sure). I used it for the installation on this laptop and upgraded from > stable to unstable to get the bleeding edge ;-) > > Bye, > Martin > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: kernel 2.6 X11 and radeon M7500
On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 11:36:39 -0800, Elaine Tsiang YueLien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Reading between the lines on this thread, I gather there is no problem getting full X functionality (including 3D acceleraton) with ATI Radeon Mobility 7500 only kernel 2.4 only X11 4.3 (maybe with patch?) I am looking at a Thinkpad R40. I confirm that is the case with a Thinkpad A31, using APM the suspends/resume even works under X! a revolution!
Re: questions on ACPI
Try filing a bug report on bugzilla.kernel.org, check out acpi.sf.net to find out what the bug report should entail. Len and friends are squashing a lot of laptop bugs, related to ACPI. On Fri, 23 Jan 2004, Anders [iso-8859-1] Ellensh?j Andersen wrote: > On Friday 23 January 2004 01:55, Russell Coker wrote: > > > How do you then explain that without APM or ACPI, the fans do not start > > > up leaving the system frozen after even small amounts of CPU load? > > > > Your laptop is broken and will never work with DOS, memtest86, etc. > > Good point. I never actually tried running the kernel without either APM or > ACPI. It was always wither either the one or the other. It is possible that > using APM, the BIOS was really just controlling the fans independently from > the OS. Whenever I replaced APM with ACPI the OS would be unusable after a > few minuttes because the fans would not start up, but of course this could > just as easily have ACPI that was broken. > > Without any power management, the system wouldn't shut down using the poweroff > command, so you have to manually shut it off. This is such a big annoyance > that I never tried it without APM. > > So that's no reason not to buy an ASUS A1300. However if you really want a > reason not to buy it, I would say the weak power plug on the back of the > laptop. It has a tendency to wear so that it goes loose from the board. With > the loose connection the laptop won't charge the battery, and when the > battery runs dry.. > > This is a 150 euro repair job I could live without (it's the second time it > has gone loose). Right now as a temporary fix I have placed a piece of folded > up kitchen towel between the AC adaptor plug and the network plug. This > squeezes the power plug so it just makes the connection, as long as I don't > move the laptop around. > > Anders > > -- > This email was generated using KMail from KDE 3.1.5 on Debian GNU/Linux > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >
Re: questions on ACPI
On Friday 23 January 2004 10:44, Arjen Verweij wrote: > Try filing a bug report on bugzilla.kernel.org, check out acpi.sf.net to > find out what the bug report should entail. Len and friends are squashing > a lot of laptop bugs, related to ACPI. As I wrote a couple of times previously, it works as of kernel 2.6.0. Any issues I have is with leds and hotkeys. I am presently trying to resolve that on the acpi4asus mailinglist. Anders -- This email was generated using KMail from KDE 3.1.5 on Debian GNU/Linux
Re: Samsung T10 - Graphics card query...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve wrote: Hi Guys I can get Debian 3.0 r2 installed on my Samsung T10 no problem. The only problem is, is that I have to use the VESA drivers and they don't give options for 1400 x 1050 screen resolution, the nearest is 1280 x 1024. GNome works fine (KDE hangs and gos back to the log in??) but obviously the graphics quality is far from optimised. So, has any one got a similar setup to mine, had the same problems and sorted them? The graphics card is an ATI Mobility Radeon 7500 Thanks Steve I manually edited XF86Config-4 to get my resolution to 1400x1050, also using radeon drivers (had to set framebuffer to false) running a mishmash of debian, kernel 2.4.24 with radeon enabled I can send you my XF86Config-4 if you like, and also my kernel configuration if that may be useful. cheers, Ben. That would be really helpful if you wouldn't mind. Also, how did you turn on radeon in the kernel? Thanks Steve
Re: Debian vs... ? (was RE: powerbook and debian)
On Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 12:25:24PM -0500, James Horton wrote: > Debian Testing, can use a 2.6.x kernel, today. I do not believe, > but I'm not certain, that RH does not TODAY have 2.6.x kernels > available. What's important about 2.6.x ? Forgive me, but I'll argue all of these are very bad reasons to use Debian. When you choose a distribution, that choice will stick with you for years. Choosing Debian because it has Linux 2.6 now, when RedHat will probably have it in a couple of months, is silly. Indeed, it's similar to choosing RedHat because it has KDE3.2 now, when Debian won't have it before another few months (more or less -- I don't know what is the current version of KDE, but you get my drift). Besides, compiling your own 2.6 is easy enough that you could do it on RedHat too. > Another approach to take, is let the others use RedHat. You use Debian. > Let them waist time and money. You can find a really good Debian consultant > to help yourself(if you need it. I'm guessing you do not really need help). > You run more (debian) servers and features that they do not have > running or 'happy' on RH. Competition, which is healthy, is over OTOH this is a good approach. We started with a good deal of RedHat servers here, because "it's supported and everyone uses it" (another bad reason, everyone really uses MS Windows). Then upgrading pains started. Then I installed a trial Debian server. Then we decided to move all the development servers to Debian because that was the only way to keep their software in sync easily, and RedHat only remains on one database server, because that database's vendor supports RedHat. Too bad, we'll have to ditch them :-). Anyway, now most people here swear by Debian for its ease of upgrading and maintaining. Only one guy also uses Gentoo at home, for fun more than anything. > >This might be off-topic, but Yves started it :) I didn't mean to troll, it was really down to "why would anyone use any OS in the first place". MacOS might be good, but I'm sure you could find reasons to use anything else instead. And I'm sure there'd be reasons to use MacOS in place of Debian, too. > >We're evaluating a professional platform that can run > >enterprise applications. We need reliability, good > >threading, responsiveness, stability, performance, but > >also easy management (if there's such a thing) and good > >support. Debian has easy management, RedHat has good support. There might be firms supporting Debian commercially, too. > >So could anybody give serious reasons as to why RH is > >bad, Debian is better ? I've looked on Google but I > >didn't find a real serious report. Well, the very core of RedHat's business is paradoxal: they sell (mostly) support (note that I know they're bringing in a new business and support model, so some of these comments might not apply anymore). So, the best for them is an OS that would install easily (hook the customer), but where maintenance is difficult (get them to pay for support). Debian tends to be exactly the other way round: people install once, but spend a lifetime maintaining the system, so the packaging system is so much better, but installing any new service can be challenging (esp. new hardware. Software install is usually very easy). That's exactly how RedHat was last time I had to use it: install was trivial, it was very good at using new hardware, and probably comes with a bunch of stuff pre-configured out of the box (printing system, file shares and so on). But from that on, upgrading anything was a pain. And my last installation of a pcmcia wireless card on Debian took me most of an evening, but security updates are made trivial. That said, RedHat has also evolved a lot, and now has apt-get as well I hear; Debian's install and hardware detection is to become much better in Sarge. I don't guess this helps much. Sorry. :-) Y.
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Re: questions on ACPI -- a follow up
Note to debian folk: [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the proper ML for this discussion On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:02:44 +0100 Lukasz Wiechec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jan 21, 2004 at 08:09:25PM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote: > > [...] > > > What version did you use? (send the output of cat > > /proc/swsusp/debug_info). > > Up to what point does the suspend process go? Any error messages on the > > screen or in /var/log/(syslog|kern.log|messages). Did you append the > > line resume2=swap:/dev/ to the kernel (using lilo/grub > > or whatever you are using?) > > Anyway you are currently supposed to use echo > /proc/swsusp/activate > > Just a quick question: how long does it take to swsusp? it seems that > *something* happens when I try to hibernate (i.e. some data is written > to swap/swsusp data space). When I restarted system, syslog said: > > --cut-- > Jan 23 09:50:57 poppy kernel: SoftwareSuspend2: Swap space signature > found. > Jan 23 09:50:57 poppy kernel: Swsusp 2.0-rc3I: Checking for image... > Jan 23 09:50:57 poppy kernel: SoftwareSuspend2: This is normal swap > space. > Jan 23 09:50:58 poppy kernel: PM: Reading pmdisk image. > Jan 23 09:50:58 poppy kernel: PM: Resume from disk failed. > --cut-- > > I reckon swsusp didn't complete writing. > > PS: does swsusp have any problems with USB? I started suspending with > memory stick plugged in. When I unplugged it (with swsusp still in > progress), progress bar jumped to ~60%. This was the moment data was > actually written to disk (there was hdd activity). Yes, there are known problems with USB; you should have all USB modules removed from the kernel during suspension. Also, you can try turning on debug (needs to be compiled in, and can be activated through /proc/swsusp/) For me (2.6.1-rc1 with rc3I), the progress bar progresses at a relatively constant rate; it takes my box about 15-25 seconds (512 megs of mem, 768 megs of swap space, 1400MHz proc) You may want to check the mailing list archives for usage documentation (subject "Test patch 2L.", Thu, 04 Dec 2003 18:39:13 +1300). The docs on the website may be up-to-date now as well (swsusp.sourceforge.net) > > -- > Lukasz > > -- | Don't show me the palm tree, show me the dates. | | Afghan Proverb | ) http://www.cuodan.net/~xsdg/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ( pgpgNivTcixQS.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian vs... ? (was RE: powerbook and debian)
On Fri, 2004-01-23 at 04:08, Yves Rutschle wrote: > On Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 12:25:24PM -0500, James Horton wrote: > > Debian Testing, can use a 2.6.x kernel, today. I do not believe, > > but I'm not certain, that RH does not TODAY have 2.6.x kernels > > available. http://people.redhat.com/arjanv/2.5/RPMS.kernel/ (i.e. Redhat has a 2.6 kernel available, and has had one available for a good long time) And, FWIW, the above URL is the "feeling lucky" result of a google search for "redhat kernel 2.6 rpm". So it's not like it's hard to find :) However, availability of precompiled bleeding edge unstable kernels is not (IMO) a good reason to prefer one distro over another. (i.e. if you're interested in bleeding edge kernels, I'd hope you would be comfortable compiling your own :o) [...] > Anyway, now most people here swear by Debian for its ease of > upgrading and maintaining. Only one guy also uses Gentoo at > home, for fun more than anything. FWIW, now that apt4rpm is available (or up2date, if you want to pay for and drink the Red Hat Kool-Aid), the ease of upgrading & maintaining the two is roughly equal. > Debian has easy management, RedHat has good support. Well, as someone that has had to deal with Red Hat enterprise "support" occasionally, I'd probably modify that statement to something more like "Red Hat is very good at collecting money for support". > There > might be firms supporting Debian commercially, too. http://www.debian.org/consultants/ lists 434 of them all over the world. And that doesn't even count companies like linuxcare, progeny, xandros, etc... Also see http://www.debian.org/support.html for various other support avenues (like this mailing list :o) > > >So could anybody give serious reasons as to why RH is > > >bad, Debian is better ? I've looked on Google but I > > >didn't find a real serious report. Here's what it boils down to for me: -- Red Hat is a relatively small corporation, and as such, it's main focus is generating revenue, and making its stockholders happy. -- Debian is a large community whose main focus is social responsibility, preserving freedom, and building the best GNU/linux distribution on the planet. -- Red Hat has a few hundred paid developers whose job is to make Red Hat Linux into a product that can make money for the corporation. -- Debian has thousands of unpaid developers whose interests and abilities are widely divergent, but who share a passion for free software (and GNU/Linux in particular). These value differences are reflected in the resulting distributions: -- Red Hat has a very pretty and easy to use installer, and very pretty, easy to use, and consistent management GUI tools. Red Hat is a relatively small distribution (the entire distro fits on 3 CDs), with package and architecture selection based on popularity and wide appeal (or the amount of money a hardware vendor is willing to pay to have their hardware supported by RH). The enterprise Red Hat (the only one where official Red Hat support is available) is decidedly anti-free, and requires you to pay a (rather large) yearly subscription fee, even to get security updates. Red Hat does not make binary versions of its enterprise distro available unless you pay the subscription fee. -- Debian has a reasonably solid (if not terribly good looking :) installer, and solid management tools (some of which have GUI front-ends of widely varying quality). Debian is a huge distribution (sarge takes up 12 CDs, last I saw), and packages and architectures are selected based on whether there are debian developers interested in maintaining them. The result is that there are a *lot* more widely varying packages and supported architectures in debian, and since the developer has a personal interest in the package, it's generally maintained very well. Debian is very much a free distribution, and binary packages as well as security updates are made available in the most convenient forms possible for users. Which one is "best"? That's like asking "which one is better, ice cream or frozen yogurt?" It depends on what you value. I've tried to give you a feeling for what the two distros value, now you have to decide which one you like better. Cheers! -- Brett Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - i n v e n t -
Re: [Swsusp-devel] Re: questions on ACPI -- a follow up
Hi. > > I reckon swsusp didn't complete writing. There is a problem in 2.6 with drive caches not being properly flushed - this is the cause of your issue. You might try adding a mdelay in kernel/power/swsusp2.c, just before the sys_reboot call that powers down the machine. It's less than ideal, but should work as a stop-gap measure. Regards, Nigel -- My work on Software Suspend is graciously brought to you by LinuxFund.org. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: kernel 2.6 X11 and radeon M7500
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >>Am Mi, den 21.01.2004 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED] um 15:01: >> >> >>>Has anyone else experienced problems with kernel 2.6, X11 and radeon >>>M7500 graphics card? >>>when I boot 2.6 everything goes ok until X11 starts, then the screen >>>just blanks. no errors appear in XF86 log either. >>>any suggestions would be appreciated. I have the same problem. I have tried the kernel-source-2.6.0 from apt-get , kernel-source-2.6.0 and kernel-source 2.6.1 from www.kernel.org - same problem. Now I am running 2.4.24 and everything works fine. I you can figure out what's wrong - please mail me. Regards, Andi Ps.: I have a Samsung P10 with Radeon M7500. - -- Andreas Rath StRV Mathematik /_\ | | Email: arath (at) gmx (dot) at Student of Tech.Mathematics and/ \| \ http://www.htu.tugraz.at/teddius Software Development & Knowledge Management @ Graz Univ. of Technology Maintainer of the OGO-JOGI Project @ http://ogo-jogi.sourceforge.net -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAEYHqVuaSibzhdmQRAt1WAKChRQWSOVd3JPGiPu2ctx56cNRl7ACfdeuN 4JtrTquI2Fi4LPmLy/se4F4= =FLvx -END PGP SIGNATURE-
2.6.1 custom kernel and cpufrqd problems
Hello, I have compiled for my Crusoe laptop the following into my new kernel: CPU_FREQ CPU_FREQ_DEFAULT_GOV_USERSPACE CPU_FREQ_GOV_POWERSAVE CPU_FREQ_GOV_USERSPACE CPU_FREQ_TABLE X86_LONGRUN However, if I do 'dpkg-reconfigure cpufreqd' I keep getting this error: >Unable to find a CpuFreq interface in your kernel. Any hints as to what I am doing wrong? Thanks, Joh
Problems with hp nx9010
Hi all: I recently bought an hp (compaq) nx9010 and I cannot get it work correctly under 2.6.0. I realized that the company has updates for the BIOS and installed the lattest one. However, the ACPI bios seems to be buggy. 2.4 kernels work perfectly, but as the laptop has not apm support and I haven't installed any acpi patch, the battery and such doesn't work. OK, but I tried with 2.6.0 (instaled from the debian package archive), and find some strange things that I really don't know how to handle. First, this is the /proc/cpuinfo: processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 15 model : 2 model name : Mobile Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.06GHz stepping: 9 cpu MHz : 3057.053 cache size : 512 KB physical id : 0 siblings: 1 fdiv_bug: no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug: no coma_bug: no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 2 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe cid bogomips: 3046891.52 What is this strange bogomips value??? Anyway, I see from the /proc/acpi that there is no fan control, but the processor temperature meter works OK. However, the greatest problem of all is that the X-Window seems to freeze for one or two seconds whenever it decides. It seems that it is a X-Win problem, as the wireless pcmcia card continues working... In the freezes, sometimes the last key pressed seems to stay pressed during these two seconds, and after that, a lot of keystrokes appear. I have some dmesg logs that are interesting and I cannot explain, so I would like anybody in this list that knows more than I do can help me: Jan 23 23:46:40 d kernel: CPU: Trace cache: 12K uops, L1 D cache: 8K Jan 23 23:46:40 d kernel: CPU: L2 cache: 512K Jan 23 23:46:40 d kernel: CPU: Hyper-Threading is disabled Jan 23 23:46:40 d kernel: Intel machine check architecture supported. Jan 23 23:46:40 d kernel: Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0. Jan 23 23:46:40 d kernel: CPU#0: Intel P4/Xeon Extended MCE MSRs (12) available Jan 23 23:46:40 d kernel: CPU#0: Thermal monitoring enabled Jan 23 23:46:40 d kernel: Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done. Jan 23 23:46:40 d kernel: Enabling unmasked SIMD FPU exception support... done. Jan 23 23:46:40 d kernel: Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK. Jan 23 23:46:40 d kernel: POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX Jan 23 23:46:40 d kernel: CPU0: Intel Mobile Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.06GHz stepping 09 Jan 23 23:46:40 d kernel: per-CPU timeslice cutoff: 1462.68 usecs. Jan 23 23:46:40 d kernel: task migration cache decay timeout: 2 msecs. First, it says HT is disabled, but I haven't seen any option in the BIOS to activate it. How do I know if he CPU supports HT? Anther interesting bit is that one: Jan 23 23:46:40 d kernel: ACPI: Processor [CPU0] (supports C1 C2) Jan 23 23:46:40 d kernel: cpufreq: CPU0 - ACPI performance management activated.Jan 23 23:46:40 d kernel: cpufreq: *P0: 3059 MHz, 2 mW, 250 uS Jan 23 23:46:40 d kernel: cpufreq: P1: 1596 MHz, 1 mW, 250 uS Jan 23 23:46:40 d kernel: cpufreq: No CPUs supporting ACPI performance management found. What does this mean? As far as I see, CPU0 supports two working modes, P0 and P1, but why does it say that no CPU support ACPI??? I have also loaded the p4-clockmod module and it works. I can switch between powersave and performance, but I'm not sure how I can control directly the two working modes (If I could, I could switch to 1.5GHz when the AC is off). The AC, battery, etc. modules work, but still the X hangs regularly for two seconds or so... Any hints? Really thanks in advance, diego -- Diego Sevilla Ruiz -- http://ditec.um.es/~dsevilla/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _.___ Dep. Ingeniería y Tecnología de Computadores, Facultad de Informática D|TEC Univ.de Murcia,Campus Espinardo,30080 Murcia (SPAIN),Tel.+34968367658
Re: 2.6.1 custom kernel and cpufrqd problems
Hi, Johannes: On Fri, Jan 23, 2004 at 01:50:14PM -0800, Johannes Graumann wrote: | Hello, | | I have compiled for my Crusoe laptop the following into my new kernel: | CPU_FREQ | CPU_FREQ_DEFAULT_GOV_USERSPACE | CPU_FREQ_GOV_POWERSAVE | CPU_FREQ_GOV_USERSPACE | CPU_FREQ_TABLE | X86_LONGRUN | | However, if I do 'dpkg-reconfigure cpufreqd' I keep getting this error: | >Unable to find a CpuFreq interface in your kernel. | Have you mounted the /sys filesystem? I think that's your problem. Best regards, diego -- Diego Sevilla Ruiz -- http://ditec.um.es/~dsevilla/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _.___ Dep. Ingeniería y Tecnología de Computadores, Facultad de Informática D|TEC Univ.de Murcia,Campus Espinardo,30080 Murcia (SPAIN),Tel.+34968367658
mini-pci modem (not winModem)
Hi all, i am looking for a mini-pci modem for my dell laptop : - is it possible to find a real modem in mini pci format ? - if it has to be a soft modem, i need one that works with linux/bsd thanks
Re: 2.6.1 custom kernel and cpufrqd problems
Hello, Thanks for the hint. I indeed don't have anything like that setup. Can you tell me what the fstab entry necessary is? Thanks, Joh On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 23:27:28 +0100 Diego Sevilla Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, Johannes: > > On Fri, Jan 23, 2004 at 01:50:14PM -0800, Johannes Graumann wrote: > > | Hello, > | > | I have compiled for my Crusoe laptop the following into my new > kernel:| CPU_FREQ > | CPU_FREQ_DEFAULT_GOV_USERSPACE > | CPU_FREQ_GOV_POWERSAVE > | CPU_FREQ_GOV_USERSPACE > | CPU_FREQ_TABLE > | X86_LONGRUN > | > | However, if I do 'dpkg-reconfigure cpufreqd' I keep getting this > error: | >Unable to find a CpuFreq interface in your kernel. > | > > Have you mounted the /sys filesystem? I think that's your problem. > > Best regards, > diego > > -- > Diego Sevilla Ruiz -- http://ditec.um.es/~dsevilla/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _.___ Dep. Ingeniería y Tecnología de Computadores, Facultad de > Informática D|TEC Univ.de Murcia,Campus Espinardo,30080 Murcia > (SPAIN),Tel.+34968367658 > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Re: 2.6.1 custom kernel and cpufrqd problems
On Fri, Jan 23, 2004 at 03:21:58PM -0800, Johannes Graumann wrote: > Hello, > > Thanks for the hint. I indeed don't have anything like that setup. Can > you tell me what the fstab entry necessary is? make sure sys exists. for temporarily experimenting with sysfs use: sudo mount -t sysfs sys /sys once your happy here's the fstab entry sys /syssysfs defaults0 0 diane
kernel and fram buffer
to all, how do i add frame buffer support into kernel? i've just one through installation and was told to add frame buffer support. i am a newbie trying to dig in debian, thanks. theo = Theodore
Re: 2.6.1 custom kernel and cpufrqd problems
On Fri, Jan 23, 2004 at 01:50:14PM -0800, Johannes Graumann wrote: > Hello, > > I have compiled for my Crusoe laptop the following into my new kernel: > CPU_FREQ > CPU_FREQ_DEFAULT_GOV_USERSPACE > CPU_FREQ_GOV_POWERSAVE > CPU_FREQ_GOV_USERSPACE > CPU_FREQ_TABLE > X86_LONGRUN > > However, if I do 'dpkg-reconfigure cpufreqd' I keep getting this error: > >Unable to find a CpuFreq interface in your kernel. > > Any hints as to what I am doing wrong? Crusoe processor do not need any kind of governors. Please look at Documentation/cpu-freq/user-guide.txt why. To resume, this processor is able to determine itself what will be the correct frequency to run, according to two kind of policies (powersave and performance). Therefore, this processor don't need any kind of software like cpufreqd in order to switch frequencies. Since the cpufreqd is a daemon that should use the userspace governor IIRC, it is a bad idea to apt-get install cpufreqd, or any daemon, which use actually the userspace governor. (Of course, installing a daemon that will set one of powersave or performance policy depending of AC presence is a good idea, but if you enable ACPI, you should be able to do that via acpid(8)). Instead, you have under /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0 some files which will show the current policy, and the min and max at which the processor is allowed to run, according to that policy. Soon, you should be able to get the current frequency as well (just that CPUFreq developpers forgot that feature...). Cheers, -- Ducrot Bruno -- Which is worse: ignorance or apathy? -- Don't know. Don't care.
How to mount and access ntfs partition as regular user
Hi, I'm fairly new to Linux, and have installed debian woody release 2 with the bf24 kernel on my notebook alongside a windows xp ntfs partition (which resides on hda1). I enabled ntfs support in the kernel during installation, but I'm not sure how to get access to the ntfs partition for non-root users. I've done some google searches, and it looks like I have to edit the /etc/fstab file, but I'm missing something because I still can't access the xp partition. Thanks in advance for any help. Tim
Re: kernel and fram buffer
* Theodore Chou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [040124 01:06]: > how do i add frame buffer support into kernel? i've > just one through installation and was told to add > frame buffer support. i am a newbie trying to dig in > debian, thanks. The Debian-Kernels come with compiled in framebuffer support. If you see a penguin-Logo in the upper left corner, when you boot, it works. If not you should tell us, which graphics interface your notebook has (or at least: which notebook you are using). Yours sincerely, Alexander signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: How to mount and access ntfs partition as regular user
On Fri, Jan 23, 2004 at 06:43:43PM -0700, Tim Folger wrote: > Hi, > > I'm fairly new to Linux, and have installed debian woody release 2 with > the bf24 kernel on my notebook alongside a windows xp ntfs partition > (which resides on hda1). I enabled ntfs support in the kernel during > installation, but I'm not sure how to get access to the ntfs partition > for non-root users. I've done some google searches, and it looks like I > have to edit the /etc/fstab file, but I'm missing something because I > still can't access the xp partition. > I think the following line should do it: /dev/hda1 /mntntfs umask=0222 0 0 you may need to put default,umask=0222 I think the default is implied. You can change /mnt to wherever you want it mounted. You do know that currently there is no write support to ntfs, its read only. > Thanks in advance for any help. > > Tim > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
