Re: mini/micro ATX w/ PCI

[Werner Heuser]

On Sun, Aug 10, 2003 at 11:56:01PM -0400, James wrote: ...
> What I hope to find is a small, highly portable, router, that runs
> linux and make the sources available.

I have researched that topic a little bit already, because IMHO such
small Linux boxes are related to my topic "Linux On Mobile
Computers" somehow. Here is list of links, which might be helpful:

http://www.openbrick.org
http://minipc.vulcan.com/
http://www.trekstor.de
http://www.Mini-box.com/
http://www.viavpsd.com/
http://www.norhtec.com/
http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS7748436273.html
http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS8129391258.html

Werner

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Re: mini/micro ATX w/ PCI

[Tapio Lehtonen]

On Sun, Aug 10, 2003 at 11:56:01PM -0400, James wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Does anyone have any experience or recommendations on very small ATX 
> form factor
> Linux based machines?  I'm looking to put debian on an x86 compatible 
> architecture.
> I'd like (2) PCI slots arranged so that the PCI cards are parallel with 
> the main (small) motherboard.
> 

See
  http://www.soekris.com/
  http://www.innercite.com/~mike/soekris/ Running Debian on Soekris systems
  http://www.storever.com/product/openbrick/openbrick-e
  http://www.openbrick.org/

If you do build the router you described, I'm interested in reading
about your experiences. Could you e-mail me when you get it working?

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Re: experience with late model laptops?

[Micha Feigin]

On Sun, 2003-08-10 at 19:57, Xavier Maillard wrote:
> Micha Feigin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> On Sat, 2003-08-09 at 12:17, Xavier Maillard wrote:
> > >  Yves Rutschle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >  
> > >  On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 08:16:01PM +0100, Xavier Maillard wrote:
> > > > >  Macs ? Cute ? Don't think so.
> > > >  
> > > >  Troll :p
> > >  
> > >  No troll here just my personnal taste :)
> > >  
> > > >  The question isn't wheather Macs are cute or not, but
> > > >  whether cute is good or not.
> > >  
> > >  Indeed.
> > >  
> >  
> >  Well, they are certainly much prettier then any pc I know.  As for
> 
> Did you ever saw a sony VAIO such as the Z1 model ?? I don't think so
> otherwise you wouldn't have said that.
> 

The Sonys look nice I admit, although to my taste the powerbook g4 is
much more elegent. On the other hand sony don't have a customer service
worth s$%# what so ever, so I am not planning on touching another sony
laptop anyway.
Please forgive my language, but as far as Sony is concerned I fill that
was talking politely.

> >  functionality, if you what you want is multimedia processing then
> >  that the way to go, and considering that OSX is now unix based its
> >  even better.  As for a linux platform, it can be a little more
> >  difficult the a pc, but works quite well. For me it is a problem with
> >  the missing mouse buttons.
> 
> I mainly use PC to develop. Personnaly, I'd rather use dedicated
> materials to read/play audio and video :) Ok I have to admit I also
> (sometimes) listen to music and things like that but my main interest
> in computer science is development ;)
> 

Well, I was talking about multimedia development (i.e editing, rendering
etc.), and as far as after effects etc. goes, a mac is dedicated
equipment, short of a smp silicon graphics, but that is going off topic
I'm afraid.

> One thing I will want if I buy a new laptop is to be able to make it
> run under the GNU (a.k.a. GNU/Hurd). So I will try to help in
> developing it to achieve this task.
> 
> zeDek

Re: [ACPI-sppt] acpi s3 resume 2.6.0-test2

[Micha Feigin]

On Sun, 2003-08-10 at 23:23, Jakob Praher wrote:
> hi all,
> 
> I have an acer 630, which has an ALI 1533 ACPI controller.
> After patching my dsdt and compiling it using the iasl, I patched the 
> kernel using your patch and included my dsdt.hex as described.
> 
> after that I had to turn off smp support, which is no problem on a 
> single cpu machine, but otherwise echoing 3 into /proc/acpi/sleep 
> resulted in a dedlock inside the kernel/suspend.c task stopping 
> function. (but don't know where exactly)
> 
> Now to my current problem: (perhaps anybody has a problem like mine)
> echo 3 > /proc/acpi/sleep works fine, the notebooks turns off and the 
> "Zz" led is blinking. After turning on the power again the screen 
> remains black and even the magic sysreq keys don't do anything. So I 
> guess it is a rather early staged system freeze.
> 
> Could there be a remaining bug in the dsdt table? is there a good 
> literature for "understanding" what the dsdt does?
> Has anybody a related problem, or has solved an issue like that?
> 
> Any pointers are appreciated.
> Oh and please CC the answers to my mail address - I am currently not 
> subscribed.
> 
> Thanks a lot.
> 
> -- Jakob
> 

I am afraid I don't have a solution for you, but I can tell you that my
sony behaves the same, and I heard from some other people that have the
same problem.
S3 is still quite experimental and is much more difficult to implement
then S4 since it is much more machine dependent.
Can't tell you though if fixing the dsdt table can solve the problem.
As for resources, haven't found them yet, but if you go to the acpi page
at http://acpi.sourceforge.net/ they some links on the subject that
supposedly can lid you to the aml language specification. Haven't found
them yet and didn't have time to look.

> 
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Re: [ACPI-sppt] dsdt for sony vaio (athelon - pcg-fxa53)

[Micha Feigin]

On Mon, 2003-08-04 at 19:42, Olivier Fauchon wrote:
> Here is my dsdt (Sony vaio FX 801) Athlon XP / Via chipset.
> 
> Lid event, power button event, Battery & temperature works
> Suspend on disk S4 is ok !
> i'm running 2.6.0.test2 cvs .
> 
> I had no luck with S3 (suspend on ram)
> It doesn't resume.
> 
> I'm trying to debug it .
> 
> Tell me if you have informations...

After some work I compared with the dsdt table on my Sony vaio fxa-53
(also Athlon XP / Via chipset) and they are almost the same (one letter
difference after disassemble-compile-disassemble).
did have to fix a minor errors on it as it didn't compile properly.
(missing return value and using uninitialized variables).
Also had to fix the notify message on the ac (ACAD) to get the ac
messages. I am still not getting temperature messages but that doesn't
worry me as much since I don't need them.
S4 under 2.4.21 kernel and swsusp works fine, S3 is broken (no hints I
am afraid). S4 under 2.6.0-test{1,2,3} is broken. Under load (matlab and
evolution running together) suspend fails, still no clues, if anyone has
any ideas (it reaches the suspend part between freeing memory and
writing pages where it wakes up again part way).
My halt and reboot command are broken though. The computer reaches the
power down message and locks for halt and for reboots it reboots, show
the startup screen and locks with the hard drive lamp on.
Anyone have the same experience, ideas to solutions? It worked fine
earlier, can't tell when it broke. Windows reboots and shuts down fine,
linux halts with apm but not with acpi (even unpatched).
echo 5 > /proc/acpi/sleep turns of the computer fine though. To get halt
to work I changed the state it sends the bios for S5 to S4 in the kernel
and it seems to halt ok now, although I am guessing that this is not the
solution.

Re: console framebuffer

[Micha Feigin]

On Mon, 2003-08-11 at 06:39, Brian P. Flaherty wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> When I installed the 2.4.21 kernel-image, I gave the radeonfb a try.
> I have an IBM X31 with a Radeon Mobility M6 LY (according to lspci),
> and I really liked the console with the framebuffer.  (I liked it so
> much that I started to learn screen.)  
> 
> However, I was also quite interested in getting cpufreq to work, so
> yesterday I pulled the source for kernel 2.6-test2 from the unstable
> archive and I have been building kernels since.  cpufreq appears to be
> working now (with apm), but I have lost my nice framebuffer.  When the
> machine starts, it loads the framebuffer and spits out some
> information (from dmesg):
> 
> > radeonfb_pci_register BEGIN
> > PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device :01:00.0
> > PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with :00:1d.0
> > PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with :02:00.0
> > PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with :02:01.0
> > radeonfb: ref_clk=2700, ref_div=60, xclk=14400 from BIOS
> > radeonfb: probed DDR SGRAM 16384k videoram
> > radeon_get_moninfo: bios 4 scratch = 144
> > radeonfb: panel ID string: 1024x768
> > radeonfb: detected DFP panel size from BIOS: 1024x768
> > radeonfb: ATI Radeon M6 LY DDR SGRAM 16 MB
> > radeonfb: DVI port LCD monitor connected
> > radeonfb: CRT port no monitor connected
> > radeonfb_pci_register END
>  
> Also, lsmod shows it.  But I don't think anything really happens to
> the screen.  It seems the framebuffer module is loaded, but it isn't
> doing anything.  I have grepped around for fbset under /etc and
> /lib/modules hoping to find where that is happening when the 2.4.21
> kernel loads, but I cannot find anything.  I have looked at the output
> of fbset under both kernels and they look similar, only rgba and the
> LineLength are different.
> 
> lpa:~# diff k2.4.fbseti k2.6.fbseti
> 6c6
> < rgba 8/0,8/0,8/0,0/0
> ---
> > rgba 6/0,6/0,6/0,0/0
> 10c10
> < Name: Radeon M6 LY 
> ---
> > Name: M6 LY
> 18c18
> < LineLength  : 1024
> ---
> > LineLength  : 0
> 
> There are no video append statements in lilo.conf.  Can anyone tell me
> where to look in order to understand how the framebuffer is started in
> the 2.4.21 kernel, so I can try to replicate it in my 2.6?  Thanks a
> lot.
> 
> Brian
> 

I am not sure if its needed but do you have 
CONFIG_VIDEO_SELECT=y
In .config?
Do you have a vga=... line in lilo? for me the line vga=792 worked, but
I am using vesa frame buffer and its a vesa mode so I am not sure if it
will work for you.

Re: console framebuffer [Solved]

[Brian P. Flaherty]

Hello,

After much googling (with many different search terms), I found a
recent post about matroxfb and kernel-2.6.0-test2:

http://lkml.org/lkml/2003/7/29/12

The key point is that (for some reason) the fb device needs to be
compiled into the kernel, not as a module.  I recompiled 2.6.0-test2
(Debian source) with CONFIG_FB_RADEON and CONFIG_FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE
in the kernel, rather than as modules, and upon rebooting, I got my
nice framebuffer console back.

I have nothing special in lilo.conf (vga=normal and no
append="video=..."), the radeonfb just does it.

Brian

Re: dell install problems

[Kit Stube]

out of curiousity which image off of that site did you pull down, there
are several i386 discs there

On Mon, 11 Aug 2003, [ISO-8859-1] Rub?n G?mez Antol? wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> 
> Kit Stube escribi:
> 
> >im trying to use bf24 or the 2.2 kernel on the disc
> >  
> >
> I'm trying to use bf24 in a dell i81k few days ago with no result. 2.2 runs.
> 
> You should try to download some boot images here:
> 
> http://people.debian.org/~blade/
> 
> It's run for me.
> 
> Regards.
> 

Re: mini/micro ATX w/ PCI

[James]

Hello

OK, here's what I'm up to, maybe other have some interest in similar 
portable devices?


Mini-ITX looks perfect. 2 pci parallel slots(or 90 degree converters are 
still elusive).
I'm looking for a mini-ITX board that either allows for 2 pci slot 
expansion, (pci add-on cards

must run parallel to main board for compactness) or have these features:

1.  Highspeed serial card(pci) for 56Kdds or FT1/T1 router connections 
with Frame Relay

   (Sangoma/Imagesream/or others? are readily available in PCI form factor)
2. At least 3 serial (RS232) ports (16750 chips)  would be nice!
3. Mpeg4 encoder chip (to convert JPEG or TVlines to Mpeg4 for remote 
viewing)

4. USB (2.0  or 1.1) for cheap usb camera inputs.
5. DVD writer (Optional for archiving local video)
6. (1-4) CCD BNC video inputs (BT878 chipset)
7. 2 slot pcmcia(pcard) slots or 1pcmcia and 1 CF
8. JTAG (would be great but not necessary) for low level custom driver 
development.

9. Ehternet.
10. Debian Linux

Here's the deal. I'm building a router that can be used on a frame relay 
network, that can input either usb
video, or bnc(ntsc/pal/TVlines) video, and convert everything to mpeg4, 
which will be served up locally
to another xhost on the ethernet, or filtered( color to black and white, 
variable frames per second) for
remote backhaul.  The good news is I do not need it to double as a 
workstation with keyboard, mouse, SVGA, etc.

Low power, small form factor, and portability are most desirable.

The mini-ITX seems to be the leading candidate, but, I still cannot find 
a version that supports 2
parallel pci slots.  I have emailed that question to many of the 
vendors, previously mentioned.


Since I have been unable to find a Mpeg4 compression board(pci or pc104) 
I guess I'll, just going to have to
build that sucker from scratch. I intend to populate it wth a BT878 for 
CCD input,  a MPEG encoder
and a PCI bus interface for general purpose use. Any idea or suggestions 
before I do the protel99 layout,
are welcome. If anyone has any interest, let me know, and I'll make any 
of this work available, once the
prototypes are cleaned up. I'm even considering a FPGA design here 
(www.opencores.com), versus

discrete chipsets.

Much Thanks to everyone for the ideas and links!

James

ide-cs for Kernel PCMCIA?

[Norman Walsh]

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I recently switched to kernel PCMCIA (for IEEE1394 support; yes, I had
it working with the external PCMCIA once, but I had to rebuild things
and I couldn't get it working again). Anyway, everything works, except...

The module PCMCIA package comes with an ide-cs module that allowed me to
mount my CompactFlash cards and read them. Is there an equivalent for kernel
PCMCIA?

Be seeing you,
  norm

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ATI Radeon Mobility

[David Fokkema]

Hi group,

Maybe (just maybe) I'll be buying a new laptop. My current laptop has a
trident cyberblade i7 card, which sucks under linux. I have flickerings
and _no_ 3D acceleration at all. My thoughts are: new hardware, good
(perfect?) compatibility with Debian, ;-)

Any thoughts on ATI Radeon Mobility 7000, 7500 and alike? You can't
download ATI Mobility drivers for linux from their site, :-(. How about
the basic XFree 4.2/4.3 drivers? DRI? I understand the 'normal' Radeons
are supported quite well, but the Mobility ones? I _really_ want a
laptop which doesn't turn out to be incompatible with Debian. And since
I'll be paying a _lot_ of money, I want DRI compatibility as well.

Thanks,

David

Problems with X and the Intel i855GM integrated graphics

[Magnus von Koeller]

Hi,

I just bought a new Dell Laptop. It's an Inspiron 500m with the
Pentium M, integrated Intel graphics and an 1400x1050 display.

I installed Linux and access on the command line works fine. Now I
wanted to configure X but ran into loads of trouble. I downloaded the
latest Intel drivers, compiled and installed them. I'm using X version
4.2.1-8 from Debian unstable (the rest of the system is from unstable,
as well). My kernel is version 2.4.21. I tried Daniel Stone's 4.3.0
packages as well but they don't work with the Intel drivers.

The Intel driver installs the two kernel modules agpgart and i830.
Both work find and lsmod shows they're installed. But with all this, I
can only get X to work with a maximum resolution of 1024x768 at 8bit
color or 640x480 at 16bit color.

When I choose more colors (i.e. 24bit) X doesn't work at all, it just
dies. What's the problem? Any suggestions, experiences, questions? I
attached all files and messages I though could be relevant.

Best regards,
 Magnus

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Re: ATI Radeon Mobility

[David Z Maze]

David Fokkema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Any thoughts on ATI Radeon Mobility 7000, 7500 and alike? You can't
> download ATI Mobility drivers for linux from their site, :-(. How about
> the basic XFree 4.2/4.3 drivers? DRI?

My new laptop has an ATI Radeon Mobility 9000.  Normal X requires an
XFree86 4.3 server (I got binaries off of xfree86.org) but works fine
beyond that.  For DRI, I think you need to get the kernel driver out
of the DRI CVS tree.  (A freshly compiled 2.4.21 kernel isn't good
enough.)

-- 
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"Theoretical politics is interesting.  Politicking should be illegal."
-- Abra Mitchell

Re: ATI Radeon Mobility

[Jeremy Brooks]

On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 07:34, David Fokkema wrote:
> Hi group,
> 
> Maybe (just maybe) I'll be buying a new laptop. My current laptop has a
> trident cyberblade i7 card, which sucks under linux. I have flickerings
> and _no_ 3D acceleration at all. My thoughts are: new hardware, good
> (perfect?) compatibility with Debian, ;-)
> 
> Any thoughts on ATI Radeon Mobility 7000, 7500 and alike? You can't
> download ATI Mobility drivers for linux from their site, :-(. How about
> the basic XFree 4.2/4.3 drivers? DRI? I understand the 'normal' Radeons
> are supported quite well, but the Mobility ones? I _really_ want a
> laptop which doesn't turn out to be incompatible with Debian. And since
> I'll be paying a _lot_ of money, I want DRI compatibility as well.
> 
I have an IBM A31 with a Mobility 7500 chip; currently running testing. 
It works well with X4.2; but without 3D hardware acceleration.  From
what I am told, if you use X4.3, hardware acceleration should work.



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Re: [ACPI-sppt] dsdt for sony vaio (athelon - pcg-fxa53)

[Robert Grimm]

Micha Feigin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
> the startup screen and locks with the hard drive lamp on.

Did you try noapic?
With APIC on, my FX301 does the same.
In linux.kernel there is a patch that works for me. It stops APIC
at reboot.
MID <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ff.

HTH,
Rob
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time explaining its a free country because its a police state.
Alan Cox

Re: ATI Radeon Mobility

[Micha Feigin]

On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 18:39, Jeremy Brooks wrote:
> On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 07:34, David Fokkema wrote:
> > Hi group,
> > 
> > Maybe (just maybe) I'll be buying a new laptop. My current laptop has a
> > trident cyberblade i7 card, which sucks under linux. I have flickerings
> > and _no_ 3D acceleration at all. My thoughts are: new hardware, good
> > (perfect?) compatibility with Debian, ;-)
> > 
> > Any thoughts on ATI Radeon Mobility 7000, 7500 and alike? You can't
> > download ATI Mobility drivers for linux from their site, :-(. How about
> > the basic XFree 4.2/4.3 drivers? DRI? I understand the 'normal' Radeons
> > are supported quite well, but the Mobility ones? I _really_ want a
> > laptop which doesn't turn out to be incompatible with Debian. And since
> > I'll be paying a _lot_ of money, I want DRI compatibility as well.
> > 
> I have an IBM A31 with a Mobility 7500 chip; currently running testing. 
> It works well with X4.2; but without 3D hardware acceleration.  From
> what I am told, if you use X4.3, hardware acceleration should work.

Don't know about the radeon, but look under the gatos project:
http://gatos.sourceforge.net/overview.php
They have accelerated ati drivers for x 4.2 and 4.3
I use their driver for rage mobility and it works great, at list for 2D
acceleration, don't have anything to test the 3d acceleration though.

Re: ATI Radeon Mobility

[Joris]

> Maybe (just maybe) I'll be buying a new laptop. My current laptop has
> a trident cyberblade i7 card, which sucks under linux. I have
> flickerings and _no_ 3D acceleration at all. My thoughts are: new
> hardware, good(perfect?) compatibility with Debian, ;-)
> 
> Any thoughts on ATI Radeon Mobility 7000, 7500 and alike? You can't
> download ATI Mobility drivers for linux from their site, :-(. How
> about the basic XFree 4.2/4.3 drivers? DRI? I understand the 'normal'
> Radeons are supported quite well, but the Mobility ones? I _really_
> want a laptop which doesn't turn out to be incompatible with Debian.
> And since I'll be paying a _lot_ of money, I want DRI compatibility as
> well.

I have a Radeon Mobility M7 LW (I think it's the 7000), and after a few
hacks (newest driver from dri.sf.net, exporting MESA_NO_3DNOW=1)
everything works like a charm
greetings,

-- 
Joris

Re: ATI Radeon Mobility

[Mario Saraceni]

David Z Maze wrote:


David Fokkema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

 


Any thoughts on ATI Radeon Mobility 7000, 7500 and alike? You can't
download ATI Mobility drivers for linux from their site, :-(. How about
the basic XFree 4.2/4.3 drivers? DRI?
   


My new laptop has an ATI Radeon Mobility 9000.  Normal X requires an
XFree86 4.3 server (I got binaries off of xfree86.org) but works fine
beyond that.  For DRI, I think you need to get the kernel driver out
of the DRI CVS tree.  (A freshly compiled 2.4.21 kernel isn't good
enough.)
 

I have an ATI Radeon Mobility 7500, XFree 4.3, linux 2.4.21. I've 
downloaded ATI-4.3.0-10.i386.tar.gz 
 
and drm-kernel-1.100.0-10.tar.gz 
 
from http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=12629   , 
installed the stuff and everything, including DRI, seems to work fine.

Strange behavior of my Accu

[Jan Luehr]

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Greetings,

well, I've some trouble with my accu in my Sony Vaio PCG-FX505 and Woody with 
a self built 2.4.20 Kernel from testing.. The whole computer switches of 
after a few minutes of use without any warning about a low battery (like a 
blinking light) and I cannot switch it on. 
But the strange thing is, that if a connect it to the power supply unit, 
switch it on an release the supply unit after two seconds, I'm able to boot. 
If a boot WinXP, WinXP will tell me, that the reamaining capacity of the accu 
is 80% and run for 45 min. But if I boot Linux, the System "simulates" an 
empty accu an turn off.
What's going on here?

The voltage of the nearly 1,5 year old accu decreases rapidly to a lower 
level, when the capacity reaches 80%. Windows might be more tollerant in 
handling low voltages or jumping voltage than Linux, which do it in order to 
prevent hardware demages.
Anyway, is there a way to set the tollerance?


Keep smiling
yanosz
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Re: ide-cs for Kernel PCMCIA?

[Stefan Rotsch]

Am Di, 2003-08-12 um 16.32 schrieb Norman Walsh:
Hi,

> The module PCMCIA package comes with an ide-cs module that allowed me to
> mount my CompactFlash cards and read them. Is there an equivalent for kernel
> PCMCIA?
There is. You just have to set "CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECS=m" (or "=y") in
"IDE, ATA and ATAPI Block devices", section "ATA/IDE/MFM/RLL support".

Regards,
Stefan

Epson C82, USB and modules

[Provost, Stephane]

Hi all,

This might be a little off-topic, so please forgive me :)

I am running 2.4.20, don't remember if it's potato or woody. Anyways, I'd
like to know if it's possible to compile modules (say the USB printer
module), get the module, put it in the right place, and do an insmod without
having to restart the system. I thought modules where pieces of code that
can loaded and unloaded at will. So that should mean that I can compile them
on the side, and (hopefully) insmod them later.

I tried to change my .config file and do a make modules, but the .o file
didn't show up, so I don't know what to do.

Oh, USB support is compiled, but I want the USB printer module to be able to
use my brand new epson c82, and hook it up with samba to share it to the
network.

Thanks !

--Stephane

Re: Epson C82, USB and modules

[Jan Luehr]

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Greetings,...

Am Dienstag, 12. August 2003 22:59 schrieb Provost, Stephane:
> Hi all,
>
> This might be a little off-topic, so please forgive me :)
>
> I am running 2.4.20, don't remember if it's potato or woody. Anyways, I'd
> like to know if it's possible to compile modules (say the USB printer
> module), get the module, put it in the right place, and do an insmod
> without having to restart the system. I thought modules where pieces of
> code that can loaded and unloaded at will. So that should mean that I can
> compile them on the side, and (hopefully) insmod them later.
>
> I tried to change my .config file and do a make modules, but the .o file
> didn't show up, so I don't know what to do.
>
> Oh, USB support is compiled, but I want the USB printer module to be able
> to use my brand new epson c82, and hook it up with samba to share it to the
> network.

Compile the module, as if you were compiling it with an new Kernel (same 
version), install it (make modules modules_install) do a depmod -a (already 
done by modules_install, but if you copied the file you've to to it manually) 
and load the module. That should work. If it's not working, you have to 
restart the system.
Anyway, what's the problem in restarting your system? Because of the last 
ptrace and other bugs, an kernel-update might be sensefull.

Keep smiling
yanoszd
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Re: Epson C82, USB and modules

[Børge Bjørnli Nygård]

Tue, 12 Aug 2003, Provost, Stephane wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> This might be a little off-topic, so please forgive me :)

Forgiven:>


> I am running 2.4.20, don't remember if it's potato or woody. Anyways, I'd
> like to know if it's possible to compile modules (say the USB printer
> module), get the module, put it in the right place, and do an insmod without
> having to restart the system. I thought modules where pieces of code that
> can loaded and unloaded at will. So that should mean that I can compile them
> on the side, and (hopefully) insmod them later.
>
> I tried to change my .config file and do a make modules, but the .o file
> didn't show up, so I don't know what to do.
>
> Oh, USB support is compiled, but I want the USB printer module to be able to
> use my brand new epson c82, and hook it up with samba to share it to the
> network.

Yes, its possible. I do assume that you have obtained the kernel source
and compiled your own kernel since you have edited your .config file.
Then you will have your kernel source in /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.20 and
as I understand the README file you can do

 make menuconfig
 make dep
 make bzImage
 make modules
 make modules_install (remember to keep a backup)

Then you copy the kernel image
/usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.20/arch/i386/boot/bzImage to /boot and set up
your lilo.config properly and run lilo.

If you need more modules I believe you only need to do as follows

 make menyconfig
  add your modules eg. 
 make dep
 make modules
 make modules_install

and I'm sure you'll find your new modules in /lib/modules/2.4.20
somewhere.

If you have a precompiled kernel, I believe you have to obtain precompiled
modules aswell otherwise you'll get a error msg

 module compiled for kernel 2.2.20 while you have kernel 2.2.20-pcmcia

or something.

Hope this make sense!

Børge

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Re: ATI Radeon Mobility

[list]

> I have an IBM A31 with a Mobility 7500 chip; currently running testing. 
> It works well with X4.2; but without 3D hardware acceleration.  From
> what I am told, if you use X4.3, hardware acceleration should work.

I am just setting up my new A31 with this exact chip and and using
Testing like you but I have some questions if you don't mind.

1. What is the difference between the Radeon and Vesa drivers?
I have tried them both and I see no difference.

2. Every time I do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and say "yes"
to use kernel framebuffer interface, X is just blank when 
I restart the X server.  I have radeonfb in /etc/modules.
What am I missing?

3. Is it necessary to put in the amount of video RAM?
I always leave it blank when doing the configuration.

4. Whenever I configure for the following display's:
1600x1200 1280x1024 1280x960
they all look the same to me.  Which one should I use?

5. My BIGGEST problem is the display is blurry with either the 
vesa or radeon drivers.  I have found that when I press Fn-F7 once, 
the screen goes black.  When I press it a second time, the display comes 
back PERFECTLY crystal clear and brilliant!  The problem is that it is not 
using my whole display.  I have 1/2 inch on the left and right
as black and unused with 1/4 inch top and bottom as well.

6. Which depth should I use?  16 or 24?

7. Can you send my your XF86Config-4 file?  I would like to compare.

Attached is my file.

Thanks
Andy






### BEGIN DEBCONF SECTION
# XF86Config-4 (XFree86 server configuration file) generated by dexconf, the
# Debian X Configuration tool, using values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the XF86Config-4 manual page.
# (Type "man XF86Config-4" at the shell prompt.)
#
# If you want your changes to this file preserved by dexconf, only make changes
# before the "### BEGIN DEBCONF SECTION" line above, and/or after the
# "### END DEBCONF SECTION" line below.
#
# To change things within the debconf section, run the command:
#   dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
# as root.  Also see "How do I add custom sections to a dexconf-generated
# XF86Config or XF86Config-4 file?" in /usr/share/doc/xfree86-common/FAQ.gz.

Section "Files"
FontPath"unix/:7100"# local font server
# if the local font server has problems, we can fall back on these
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/CID"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load"GLcore"
Load"bitmap"
Load"dbe"
Load"ddc"
Load"dri"
Load"extmod"
Load"freetype"
Load"glx"
Load"int10"
Load"record"
Load"speedo"
Load"type1"
Load"vbe"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Generic Keyboard"
Driver  "keyboard"
Option  "CoreKeyboard"
Option  "XkbRules"  "xfree86"
Option  "XkbModel"  "pc104"
Option  "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "CorePointer"
Option  "Device""/dev/psaux"
Option  "Protocol"  "PS/2"
Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Generic Mouse"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "SendCoreEvents""true"
Option  "Device""/dev/input/mice"
Option  "Protocol"  "ImPS/2"
Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier  "Radeon"
Driver  "radeon"
BusID   "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier  "Generic Monitor"
HorizSync   31.5-48.5
VertRefresh 40-70
Option  "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier  "Default Screen"
Device  "Radeon"
Monitor "Generic Monitor"
DefaultDepth16
SubSection "Display"
Depth   1
Modes   "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" 
"800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   4
Modes   "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" 
"800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"

Re: ATI Radeon Mobility

[Daniel Pittman]

On Tue, 12 Aug 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> I have an IBM A31 with a Mobility 7500 chip; currently running
>> testing. It works well with X4.2; but without 3D hardware
>> acceleration. From what I am told, if you use X4.3, hardware
>> acceleration should work.
> 
> I am just setting up my new A31 with this exact chip and and using
> Testing like you but I have some questions if you don't mind.
> 
> 1. What is the difference between the Radeon and Vesa drivers?
> I have tried them both and I see no difference.

The Radeon driver has hardware acceleration, the Vesa driver does not.
So, using the Vesa driver, your performance will suck. :)

> 2. Every time I do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and say "yes"
> to use kernel framebuffer interface, X is just blank when 
> I restart the X server.  I have radeonfb in /etc/modules.
> What am I missing?

I never got the Radeon driver and the Radeonfb driver to play nice
together, so I can only say "same here."

> 3. Is it necessary to put in the amount of video RAM?
> I always leave it blank when doing the configuration.

No, it should be detected correctly.

> 4. Whenever I configure for the following display's:
> 1600x1200 1280x1024 1280x960
> they all look the same to me.  Which one should I use?

1600x1200, probably, but you should use the one that is the native
resolution of the panel. Anything else will be either scaled or with
borders.

> 5. My BIGGEST problem is the display is blurry with either the vesa or
> radeon drivers. 

...something smaller than native resolution being scaled up...

> I have found that when I press Fn-F7 once, the screen goes black. When
> I press it a second time, the display comes back PERFECTLY crystal
> clear and brilliant! The problem is that it is not using my whole
> display. I have 1/2 inch on the left and right as black and unused
> with 1/4 inch top and bottom as well.

...and now, show at native size, with borders.

> 6. Which depth should I use?  16 or 24?

Benchmark, since it depends a bit on your applications, but the
performance difference is pretty small these days. Occasionally, like
for 3D stuff, you may find 16 is actually slower than 24, but I don't
know for this specific hardware.

 Daniel

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Intel Support of Centrino Under Linux Petition

[Werner Heuser]

Three months after Intel has released their new technology, laptops based
on the Centrino(TM) features are already very popular in the Linux
community. For almost all Centrino based laptops from different
manufacturers there are installation reports[1] available.

But the "Intel Support of Centrino Under Linux Petition"[2] states
"currently support is quite lacking and only half of the technology has
any form of drivers. Intel has flipped on the issue of Linux. When
Centrino was introduced they reported that Linux would indeed be
supported. Now, after conversing with them, they have said that they
have no plans at all to support Linux with respect to Centrino any more
than they have." [3][4][5]

Please support the petition.

Werner

  [1] http://tuxmobil.org/centrino.html
  [2] http://www.petitiononline.com/xanthan/petition.html
  [3] http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/29840.html
  [4] http://news.com.com/2100-1006-993896.html
  [5] http://www.intel.com/support/notebook/centrino/os.htm

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Re: mini/micro ATX w/ PCI

[Werner Heuser]

On Sun, Aug 10, 2003 at 11:56:01PM -0400, James wrote: ...
> What I hope to find is a small, highly portable, router, that runs
> linux and make the sources available.

I have researched that topic a little bit already, because IMHO such
small Linux boxes are related to my topic "Linux On Mobile
Computers" somehow. Here is list of links, which might be helpful:

http://www.openbrick.org
http://minipc.vulcan.com/
http://www.trekstor.de
http://www.Mini-box.com/
http://www.viavpsd.com/
http://www.norhtec.com/
http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS7748436273.html
http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS8129391258.html

Werner

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Re: Woody rescue disk for Libretto L50/70/100/110

[Stephen R Marenka]

On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 09:43:14PM -0400, Terry Mathews wrote:
> I've got one of these cursed Libretto L70s which can't boot a normal Linux install 
> set without a special floppy driver due to the floppy being accessible by BIOS calls 
> only.
> 
> The driver can be found here http://libxg.free.fr/floppy/floppy.htm
> 
> Can someone cook me up a Woody i386 rescue disk with this driver so that I can 
> install Woody? I found a disk for Potato, but AFAIK I can't start the system up with 
> a Potato boot disk to install Woody.
> 
> I would greatly appreciate it. I'd cook the disk up myself, but I'm kinda new at the 
> Debian thing, graduating up from Mandrake.


details everyting you need to know about replacing the kernel on a
rescue disk. The section following explains how to preload modules.
Between those you should have everything you need to build your own,
on any linux box.

I think I'd just add the module to the rescue disk and modify
/etc/modules. The only problem you may run into is that the kernel
version may conflict with the module version. That means you'd need to
roll your own kernel or download the kernel package and rebuild with
that.

HTH,

Stephen

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