A Null Printer Cable for PLIP

2003-01-16 Thread Andriy T . Yanko
Hi

How to  make ___WORKING___ Null Printer Cable for use with a PLIP connection?


thx



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Re: A Null Printer Cable for PLIP

2003-01-16 Thread Rubén Gómez Antolí

Hi all,


Andriy T.Yanko wrote:


Hi

How to  make ___WORKING___ Null Printer Cable for use with a PLIP connection?
 



You can see it in net-howto, and in plip-install howto.

Faster, here:

http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/PLIP-Install-HOWTO-8.html



thx

 


Nothing.

Salud y Revolución.

Lobo.



 



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Re: A Null Printer Cable for PLIP

2003-01-16 Thread Carsten Lechte
Hello

What kinds of problems do you have exactly?

> How to  make ___WORKING___ Null Printer Cable for use with a PLIP
> connection?

On my woody installation, I found two howtos and one kernel
documentation.

/usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-txt/mini/PLIP.gz
/usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-txt/PLIP-Install-HOWTO.gz
/usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.17/Documentation/networking/PLIP.txt

Quoting PLIP.txt:

Parallel Transfer Mode 0 Cable
==

The cable for the first transfer mode is a standard
printer "null" cable which transfers data four bits at a time using
data bit outputs of the first port (machine T) connected to the
status bit inputs of the second port (machine R).  There are five
status inputs, and they are used as four data inputs and a clock (data
strobe) input, arranged so that the data input bits appear as contiguous
bits with standard status register implementation.

A cable that implements this protocol is available commercially as a
"Null Printer" or "Turbo Laplink" cable.  It can be constructed with
two DB-25 male connectors symmetrically connected as follows:

STROBE output   1*
D0->ERROR   2 - 15  15 - 2
D1->SLCT3 - 13  13 - 3
D2->PAPOUT  4 - 12  12 - 4
D3->ACK 5 - 10  10 - 5
D4->BUSY6 - 11  11 - 6
D5,D6,D7 are   7*, 8*, 9*
AUTOFD output 14*
INIT   output 16*
SLCTIN  17 - 17
extra grounds are 18*,19*,20*,21*,22*,23*,24*
GROUND  25 - 25
* Do not connect these pins on either end

If the cable you are using has a metallic shield it should be
connected to the metallic DB-25 shell at one end only.

Parallel Transfer Mode 1


The second data transfer method relies on both machines having
bi-directional parallel ports, rather than output-only ``printer''
ports.  This allows byte-wide transfers, and avoids reconstructing
nibbles into bytes.  This cable should not be used on unidirectional
``printer'' (as opposed to ``parallel'') ports or when the machine
isn't configured for PLIP, as it will result in output driver
conflicts and the (unlikely) possibility of damage.

The cable for this transfer mode should be constructed as follows:

STROBE->BUSY 1 - 11
D0->D0  2 - 2
D1->D1  3 - 3
D2->D2  4 - 4
D3->D3  5 - 5
D4->D4  6 - 6
D5->D5  7 - 7
D6->D6  8 - 8
D7->D7  9 - 9
INIT -> ACK  16 - 10
AUTOFD->PAPOUT 14 - 12
SLCT->SLCTIN 13 - 17
GND->ERROR  18 - 15
extra grounds are 19*,20*,21*,22*,23*,24*
GROUND  25 - 25
* Do not connect these pins on either end

Once again, if the cable you are using has a metallic shield it should
be connected to the metallic DB-25 shell at one end only.


HTH, chl
-- 
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Institut fuer Experimentelle und Angewandte Physik
Christian-Albrechts-Universitaet, 24098 Kiel, Germany
http://www.ieap.uni-kiel.de/plasma/ag-stroth



Re: A Null Printer Cable for PLIP

2003-01-16 Thread Yves Rutschle
On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 03:21:43PM +0200, Andriy T. Yanko wrote:
> How to  make ___WORKING___ Null Printer Cable for use with a PLIP connection?

As descibed in linux/Documentation/networking/PLIP.txt.

Try the first one first (the one that doesn't connect all
D0-D7 to D0-D7 on the other side). If that doesn't work, you
*know* your software configuration is wrong (in which case
you'll probably want to look at the irq of the parallel port
driver) OR that you need to hire someone to solder for you.

I have never tried the second type of cable, so won't
comment on it.

HTH
/Y



Re: got stuck in dpkg-available-cache

2003-01-16 Thread Bjoern Rueffer

On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, Blars Blarson wrote:

> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >Try using 'apt-get update' along with the equivalent in dselect
See below.

> 'dselect update' is a superset of 'apt-get update', there's no need to
> do the 'apt-get update'.  (or use update from the dselect menu)

I do know this. And of couse I always did an "apt-get update" AND "dselect
update" before I tried "apt-get upgrade" oder "dselect select ...
install".

Although dselect uses apt, it seems to have it's own information cache,
which is not updated by performing apt-get update.

But anyway, I still have no clue how to clean up the mess that I caused in
both systems.

Bjoern




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Re: got stuck in dpkg-available-cache

2003-01-16 Thread mw
Hello Bjoern.
I didn't follow the thread,  but maybe could add some general hints ?
> Although dselect uses apt, it seems to have it's own information cache,
> which is not updated by performing apt-get update.
> But anyway, I still have no clue how to clean up the mess that I caused in
> both systems.
> Bjoern

Perhaps you can begin cleaning up from dselect with
'apt-method' of update, which is running an implied apt-get clean.

Have a look at 
man apt-get --> options "dselect-upgrade" and "apt-get clean"
and also option  "--list-cleanup".

Also, in the aptitude-manpage, there's an interesting §:

-- v 

Aptitude::Track-Dselect-State
 If this is set, Aptitude will watch the dselect state
of a package and alter its own internal state whenever
this changes.  You almost certainly want this to be
on -- in fact, I'm not entirely certain that turning
it off will work >=)  (if you care, please test
Aptitude with this option off and let me know what
breaks so I can fix it)
 This was added to fix the "Aptitude and dselect fight
over package states" bug in 0.0.3 .
default: true

--^

good luck !

-- 
michl



Re: video on toshiba satellite 1800-100 Please Help !!

2003-01-16 Thread Thierry Benita
On Tue, 14 Jan 2003 13:13:01 +0100, Frederik Dannemare wrote
> 
> try the driver from http://www.xfree86.org/~alanh/
> requires X4.2, though (look at www.apt-get.org for woody apt-get 
> lines)
> 
> /frederik
Hi, I upgraded to X4.2 and it's worse than before : all X is now _verry_verry_
slow :-(

Does anybody have a laptop with a Trident Cyberblade Ai1 chip ? Or does
anybody know where I should search ?
Do you need some other informations ?

Thank's for helping and giving some of your time.

Thierry.



Re: video on toshiba satellite 1800-100 Please Help !!

2003-01-16 Thread Cesar Rincon
On Thu, 2003-01-16 at 17:35, Thierry Benita wrote:
> Hi, I upgraded to X4.2 and it's worse than before : all X is now _verry_verry_
> slow :-(
> 
> Does anybody have a laptop with a Trident Cyberblade Ai1 chip ? Or does
> anybody know where I should search ?

I do.  Cyberblade i7d (rev 92).  I'm running XFree86 4.2, and it works
great.  I switched to 4.2, because 4.1 seems to have a couple of
problems with xv: there is always a blue line some 32 pixels wide on the
left side of windows using acceleration, which degenerate in all-blue
windows, with no image, after a suspend cycle.  Both are fixed in 4.2.

Having said that, I don't understand what could be the problem with your
machine.  The only thing I can think of is a misconfiguration in
XF86Config-4.  In the "Module" section, this is what I load:

  Section "Module"
Load"GLcore"
Load"bitmap"
Load"dbe"
Load"ddc"
Load"dri"
Load"extmod"
Load"freetype"
Load"glx"
Load"int10"
Load"pex5"
Load"record"
Load"speedo"
Load"type1"
Load"vbe"
Load"xie"
  EndSection

And my "Device" section looks like this:

  Section "Device"
Identifier  "Trident Cyberblade"
Driver  "trident"
Option  "UseFBDev"  "true"
Option  "SWCursor"
  EndSection

I have not changed anything else (aside from configuring my keyboard and
the very nice Synaptics touchpad driver).  It just works.

Oh, I do enable the kernel frame buffer at boot.  Maybe that makes a
difference?  I do that with an

  append="video=trident:800x600,bpp=16,center,fp"

in my lilo.conf.  That gets me very nice high resolution text consoles. 
I have the Trident FB driver built into my kernel, it is not loaded as a
module.  I don't know if you can do this if the driver is a module.

I hope this helps.

 -CR




A Null Printer Cable for PLIP

2003-01-16 Thread Andriy T . Yanko
Hi

How to  make ___WORKING___ Null Printer Cable for use with a PLIP connection?


thx



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Re: A Null Printer Cable for PLIP

2003-01-16 Thread Rubén Gómez Antolí
Hi all,


Andriy T.Yanko wrote:


Hi

How to  make ___WORKING___ Null Printer Cable for use with a PLIP connection?
 


You can see it in net-howto, and in plip-install howto.

Faster, here:

http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/PLIP-Install-HOWTO-8.html



thx

 

Nothing.

Salud y Revolución.

Lobo.



 


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Re: A Null Printer Cable for PLIP

2003-01-16 Thread Carsten Lechte
Hello

What kinds of problems do you have exactly?

> How to  make ___WORKING___ Null Printer Cable for use with a PLIP
> connection?

On my woody installation, I found two howtos and one kernel
documentation.

/usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-txt/mini/PLIP.gz
/usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-txt/PLIP-Install-HOWTO.gz
/usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.17/Documentation/networking/PLIP.txt

Quoting PLIP.txt:

Parallel Transfer Mode 0 Cable
==

The cable for the first transfer mode is a standard
printer "null" cable which transfers data four bits at a time using
data bit outputs of the first port (machine T) connected to the
status bit inputs of the second port (machine R).  There are five
status inputs, and they are used as four data inputs and a clock (data
strobe) input, arranged so that the data input bits appear as contiguous
bits with standard status register implementation.

A cable that implements this protocol is available commercially as a
"Null Printer" or "Turbo Laplink" cable.  It can be constructed with
two DB-25 male connectors symmetrically connected as follows:

STROBE output   1*
D0->ERROR   2 - 15  15 - 2
D1->SLCT3 - 13  13 - 3
D2->PAPOUT  4 - 12  12 - 4
D3->ACK 5 - 10  10 - 5
D4->BUSY6 - 11  11 - 6
D5,D6,D7 are   7*, 8*, 9*
AUTOFD output 14*
INIT   output 16*
SLCTIN  17 - 17
extra grounds are 18*,19*,20*,21*,22*,23*,24*
GROUND  25 - 25
* Do not connect these pins on either end

If the cable you are using has a metallic shield it should be
connected to the metallic DB-25 shell at one end only.

Parallel Transfer Mode 1


The second data transfer method relies on both machines having
bi-directional parallel ports, rather than output-only ``printer''
ports.  This allows byte-wide transfers, and avoids reconstructing
nibbles into bytes.  This cable should not be used on unidirectional
``printer'' (as opposed to ``parallel'') ports or when the machine
isn't configured for PLIP, as it will result in output driver
conflicts and the (unlikely) possibility of damage.

The cable for this transfer mode should be constructed as follows:

STROBE->BUSY 1 - 11
D0->D0  2 - 2
D1->D1  3 - 3
D2->D2  4 - 4
D3->D3  5 - 5
D4->D4  6 - 6
D5->D5  7 - 7
D6->D6  8 - 8
D7->D7  9 - 9
INIT -> ACK  16 - 10
AUTOFD->PAPOUT 14 - 12
SLCT->SLCTIN 13 - 17
GND->ERROR  18 - 15
extra grounds are 19*,20*,21*,22*,23*,24*
GROUND  25 - 25
* Do not connect these pins on either end

Once again, if the cable you are using has a metallic shield it should
be connected to the metallic DB-25 shell at one end only.


HTH, chl
-- 
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Institut fuer Experimentelle und Angewandte Physik
Christian-Albrechts-Universitaet, 24098 Kiel, Germany
http://www.ieap.uni-kiel.de/plasma/ag-stroth


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Re: A Null Printer Cable for PLIP

2003-01-16 Thread Yves Rutschle
On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 03:21:43PM +0200, Andriy T. Yanko wrote:
> How to  make ___WORKING___ Null Printer Cable for use with a PLIP connection?

As descibed in linux/Documentation/networking/PLIP.txt.

Try the first one first (the one that doesn't connect all
D0-D7 to D0-D7 on the other side). If that doesn't work, you
*know* your software configuration is wrong (in which case
you'll probably want to look at the irq of the parallel port
driver) OR that you need to hire someone to solder for you.

I have never tried the second type of cable, so won't
comment on it.

HTH
/Y


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Re: got stuck in dpkg-available-cache

2003-01-16 Thread Bjoern Rueffer

On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, Blars Blarson wrote:

> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >Try using 'apt-get update' along with the equivalent in dselect
See below.

> 'dselect update' is a superset of 'apt-get update', there's no need to
> do the 'apt-get update'.  (or use update from the dselect menu)

I do know this. And of couse I always did an "apt-get update" AND "dselect
update" before I tried "apt-get upgrade" oder "dselect select ...
install".

Although dselect uses apt, it seems to have it's own information cache,
which is not updated by performing apt-get update.

But anyway, I still have no clue how to clean up the mess that I caused in
both systems.

Bjoern



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Re: got stuck in dpkg-available-cache

2003-01-16 Thread mw
Hello Bjoern.
I didn't follow the thread,  but maybe could add some general hints ?
> Although dselect uses apt, it seems to have it's own information cache,
> which is not updated by performing apt-get update.
> But anyway, I still have no clue how to clean up the mess that I caused in
> both systems.
> Bjoern

Perhaps you can begin cleaning up from dselect with
'apt-method' of update, which is running an implied apt-get clean.

Have a look at 
man apt-get --> options "dselect-upgrade" and "apt-get clean"
and also option  "--list-cleanup".

Also, in the aptitude-manpage, there's an interesting §:

-- v 

Aptitude::Track-Dselect-State
 If this is set, Aptitude will watch the dselect state
of a package and alter its own internal state whenever
this changes.  You almost certainly want this to be
on -- in fact, I'm not entirely certain that turning
it off will work >=)  (if you care, please test
Aptitude with this option off and let me know what
breaks so I can fix it)
 This was added to fix the "Aptitude and dselect fight
over package states" bug in 0.0.3 .
default: true

--^

good luck !

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Re: video on toshiba satellite 1800-100 Please Help !!

2003-01-16 Thread Thierry Benita
On Tue, 14 Jan 2003 13:13:01 +0100, Frederik Dannemare wrote
> 
> try the driver from http://www.xfree86.org/~alanh/
> requires X4.2, though (look at www.apt-get.org for woody apt-get 
> lines)
> 
> /frederik
Hi, I upgraded to X4.2 and it's worse than before : all X is now _verry_verry_
slow :-(

Does anybody have a laptop with a Trident Cyberblade Ai1 chip ? Or does
anybody know where I should search ?
Do you need some other informations ?

Thank's for helping and giving some of your time.

Thierry.


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Re: video on toshiba satellite 1800-100 Please Help !!

2003-01-16 Thread Cesar Rincon
On Thu, 2003-01-16 at 17:35, Thierry Benita wrote:
> Hi, I upgraded to X4.2 and it's worse than before : all X is now _verry_verry_
> slow :-(
> 
> Does anybody have a laptop with a Trident Cyberblade Ai1 chip ? Or does
> anybody know where I should search ?

I do.  Cyberblade i7d (rev 92).  I'm running XFree86 4.2, and it works
great.  I switched to 4.2, because 4.1 seems to have a couple of
problems with xv: there is always a blue line some 32 pixels wide on the
left side of windows using acceleration, which degenerate in all-blue
windows, with no image, after a suspend cycle.  Both are fixed in 4.2.

Having said that, I don't understand what could be the problem with your
machine.  The only thing I can think of is a misconfiguration in
XF86Config-4.  In the "Module" section, this is what I load:

  Section "Module"
Load"GLcore"
Load"bitmap"
Load"dbe"
Load"ddc"
Load"dri"
Load"extmod"
Load"freetype"
Load"glx"
Load"int10"
Load"pex5"
Load"record"
Load"speedo"
Load"type1"
Load"vbe"
Load"xie"
  EndSection

And my "Device" section looks like this:

  Section "Device"
Identifier  "Trident Cyberblade"
Driver  "trident"
Option  "UseFBDev"  "true"
Option  "SWCursor"
  EndSection

I have not changed anything else (aside from configuring my keyboard and
the very nice Synaptics touchpad driver).  It just works.

Oh, I do enable the kernel frame buffer at boot.  Maybe that makes a
difference?  I do that with an

  append="video=trident:800x600,bpp=16,center,fp"

in my lilo.conf.  That gets me very nice high resolution text consoles. 
I have the Trident FB driver built into my kernel, it is not loaded as a
module.  I don't know if you can do this if the driver is a module.

I hope this helps.

 -CR



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