Re: Party with porn stars
On Friday 21 December 2001 02:16 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hey everyone, > > Ever wanted to party with your favorite porn stars?? relay for spam geez.. what a waste of a good FreeBSD box.. @debian:~$ whois 64.38.226.213 CWIE LLC (NETBLK-CWIE-BLK-1) 1125 E Glendale AVE Phoenix, AZ 85020 US Netname: CWIE-BLK-1 Netblock: 64.38.192.0 - 64.38.255.255 Maintainer: CWIE Coordinator: Cadwell, Ron (RC622-ARIN) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 602-248-4963 Domain System inverse mapping provided by: NS1.CWIE.NET 64.38.192.10 NS2.CWIE.NET 64.38.192.11 NS3.CWIE.NET 64.38.192.12 NS4.CWIE.NET 64.38.192.13 ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE Record last updated on 15-Nov-2000. Database last updated on 20-Dec-2001 19:55:42 EDT. @debian:~$ sudo nmap -sX -O -v 64.38.226.213 Password: Starting nmap V. 2.54BETA30 ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) Host mkmm.cavecreek.net (64.38.226.213) appears to be up ... good. Initiating XMAS Scan against mkmm.cavecreek.net (64.38.226.213) The XMAS Scan took 29 seconds to scan 1549 ports. Adding open port 80/tcp Adding open port 21/tcp Adding open port 22/tcp Adding open port 25/tcp Adding open port 23/tcp Adding open port 3306/tcp Adding open port 111/tcp For OSScan assuming that port 21 is open and port 1 is closed and neither are firewalled Interesting ports on mkmm.cavecreek.net (64.38.226.213): (The 1542 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed) Port State Service 21/tcp openftp 22/tcp openssh 23/tcp opentelnet 25/tcp opensmtp 80/tcp openhttp 111/tcpopensunrpc 3306/tcp openmysql Remote operating system guess: FreeBSD 4.3 - 4.4PRERELEASE Uptime 63.265 days (since Thu Oct 18 22:07:59 2001) TCP Sequence Prediction: Class=truly random Difficulty=999 (Good luck!) IPID Sequence Generation: Busy server or unknown class -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Party with porn stars
on Fri, Dec 21, 2001 at 03:39:48AM -0500, k l u r t ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Friday 21 December 2001 02:16 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hey everyone,
> >
> > Ever wanted to party with your favorite porn stars??
>
> relay for spam
> geez.. what a waste of a good FreeBSD box..
I've got a few systems for trapping spam. A modified set of Lars
Wirzenius's procmail filters ("spamfilter" in Debian), an asian-language
trap, and a few scripts to help automate the response process.
I'll post the whole mess at some point, but it's a bit unweildy (ugly,
but it works ;-).
I'm attaching one script I've been polishing over the past few days. It
scans a message (or attachments) for URLs, gets the IP, then runs a
WHOIS query, extracts email addresses, and converts them to
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" form. abuse.net is a remailer run by John Levine, it
sends mail to known (or guessed) abuse reporting addresses for sites, as
well as sharing information with other services. Spamcomp.net is a
similar service. Substitute as appropriate.
My process in mutt is to pipe the message (or if it's encoded, an
attachment) through my script, paste the addresses into the "To:" line,
and send. Results from ISPs are moderately impressive. If nothing
else, ISPs will find they're getting massive complaints to spam.
The script isn't perfect. It doesn't handle some obfuscated URL
(@-encoded, big-number URLs, though I'm working on it). But it handles
most cases well. I somewhat prefer the semi-auto nature of it as I have
some control over the actual execution and triggering.
The '-v' flag increases verbosity.
Peace.
--
Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://kmself.home.netcom.com/
What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Home of the brave
http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/Land of the free
We freed Dmitry! Boycott Adobe! Repeal the DMCA! http://www.freesklyarov.org
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#!/bin/sh
PATH=/bin:/usr/bin
function get_urls () {
# Extract a set of distinct URLs from stdin.
awk '
BEGIN { FS = "\t <>,.=\"" }
/http:/ {
for( i=0; i <= NR; i++ ) {
URL = ""
if ( match( $i, "http:")) {
URL = substr($i, index ($1, "http:") + 7 )
split( URL, aURL, "[^-.A-z0-9_]" )
URL = aURL[1]
if ( length(URL) > 0 ) printf( "%s\n", URL )
}
}
}
' | sort -u
}
function NicFILTER () {
# Extract email addresses from WHOIS NIC data and post as
# "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" format.
awk '
/@/ {
for( i = 1; i <= NF; i++ ) {
if ( $i ~ /@/ ) {
host = substr( $i, index( $i, "@" ) + 1 )
gsub( "[^.A-z0-9_-]", "", host )
printf( "[EMAIL PROTECTED]\n", host )
}
}
}' | sort -u
}
# Test for a verbose flag.
VERBOSE=n
if [ x"$1" = x"-v" ]; then
VERBOSE=y
fi
case $VERBOSE in
y) function uniqlist() { cat; } ;;
n) function uniqlist() { sort -u | awk '{ printf( "%s ", $0 ) }'; } ;;
*) echo "Bad VERBOSE value: $VERBOSE" 1>&2; exit 1 ;;
esac
#
clear
URLLIST=$( get_urls /dev/stdin )
if [ -z "$URLLIST" ];
then
echo "No URLs found"
exit
else
echo "URLs: $URLLIST"
fi
for URL in $URLLIST
do
if [ "$VERBOSE" = "y" ]; then echo -e "$URL: \c"; fi
HOST=$( host $URL 2>&1 )
if echo "$HOST" | grep -q "does not exist"; then
echo "No IP found for host $URL"
continue
elif echo "$HOST" | grep -q " A "; then
IPS=$( echo "$HOST" | awk '/A / {print $3}')
if [ "$VERBOSE" = "y" ]; then echo -e "$IPS \c"; fi
else
IPS=$( echo "$HOST" | awk '/^Address:/ {print $2}' )
if [ "$VERBOSE" = "y" ]; then echo -e "$IPS \c"; fi
fi
for IP in $IPS
do
# We want a few specific bits from WHOIS
# Several forms of this:
# InterNIC ARIN: US: check for "NETBLK"
# RIPE: EU.
# APNIC KRNIC: Asia. Read from
# First, find the netblock:
# echo "Searching whois"
WHOIS=$( whois $IP )
if echo "$WHOIS" | grep -q InterNIC; then
REGISTRY=InterNIC
elif echo "$WHOIS" | grep -q "ARIN Registration Services"; then
REGISTRY=ARIN
elif echo "$WHOIS" | egrep -q '(RIPE|DENIC)'; then
REGISTRY=RIPE
elif echo "$WHOIS" | grep -q KRNIC; then
REGISTRY=KRNIC
elif echo "$WHOIS" | grep -q APNIC; then
REGISTRY=APNIC
else :
fi
# Check to see if we're referencing a netblock...
if echo "$WHOIS" | grep -q "NETBLK"; then
NETBLOCK=$(
echo $WHOIS |
sed -ne '/^.*\(NETBLK[-A-Z0-9]*
Re: thinkpad pad, woody and a linksys wpc11 lan card
On Fri, 2001-12-21 at 20:05, nick lidakis wrote: > Just purchased a Linksys WPC11 wireless lan card to use with my > thinkpad. Currently running woody with kernel 2.4.16. I compiled the > kernel with the Prsim drivers as modules. hermes.o, orinoco.o and > orinoco_cs.o appear in /lib/modules.../wireless. pcmcia-cs is installed > and > working properly. > > When I insert the card into the pcmcia slot I hear one high pitched beep > followed by a lower pitch. Cardinfo sts the card has been identified as > a D-Link DWL-650 11Mps Wireless Adapter. Searches on google and debian > planet reveal conflicting statements on how to configure this card and > with which driver. > > /var/log/daemon.log reveals the following > > Dec 21 01:48:30 thinkpad cardmgr[2024]: watching 2 sockets > Dec 21 01:48:30 thinkpad cardmgr[2024]: initializing socket 0 > Dec 21 01:48:30 thinkpad cardmgr[2024]: socket 0: D-Link DWL-650 11 Mbps > Wireless Adapter > Dec 21 01:48:30 thinkpad cardmgr[2024]: executing: 'modprobe wvlan_cs' > Dec 21 01:48:30 thinkpad cardmgr[2024]: + modprobe: Can't locate module > wvlan_cs > Dec 21 01:48:30 thinkpad cardmgr[2024]: modprobe exited with status 255 > Dec 21 01:48:30 thinkpad cardmgr[2024]: module > /lib/modules/2.4.16/pcmcia/wvlan_cs.o not available > Dec 21 01:48:32 thinkpad cardmgr[2024]: get dev info on socket 0 failed: > Resource temporarily unavailable > > How do I get this card to load the appropriate module which I assume is > orinoco_cs? Looks like you're using kernel PCMCIA, but this card is defined to use a different module with David Hinds PCMCIA package. You're using that for the /etc/pcmcia/config, however, so the card is being identified as a Wavelan compatible. I think the general approach you have been taking is right, but after you have changed that config file you have to (A) stop and start pcmcia support (the config is read at startup) and (B) make sure the existing entry that points it at wvlan_cs is gone. Cheers, Andrew. -- Andrew @ Catalyst .Net.NZ Ltd, PO Box 11-053, Manners St, Wellington WEB: http://catalyst.net.nz/PHYS: Level 2, 150-154 Willis St DDI: +64(4)916-7201MOB: +64(21)635-694OFFICE: +64(4)499-2267 Are you enrolled at http://schoolreunions.co.nz/ yet? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Party with porn stars
Thus spake Karsten M. Self ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > I've got a few systems for trapping spam. I've been quite happy with spamassassin. Feel free to check out my writeup: http://codesorcery.net/docs/spamtricks.html -- Justin R. Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> View my website at http://codesorcery.net Please encrypt email using key 0xC9C40C31 msg06031/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Party with porn stars
On Friday 21 December 2001 07:15, Justin R. Miller wrote: > Thus spake Karsten M. Self ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > I've got a few systems for trapping spam. > > I've been quite happy with spamassassin. Feel free to check out my > writeup: > > http://codesorcery.net/docs/spamtricks.html I just installed razor and it works quite well. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing programs from a none-debian CD or from the Harddisk
> - Original Message - > From: "Axel Bojer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mike Alborn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 1:23 AM > Subject: Re: Installing programs from a none-debian CD or from the Harddisk > > > >Mike Alborn answered me this: > > "Hi, > apt will only work if the source media is correctly fomatted > (ie., just putting some .deb files on a CD will *not* mean that apt can > make sense of the files.) However, have you tried using 'dpkg --install > /path/filename'? This allows you to bypass apt and install packages > directly. Keep in mind, though, that like rpm, dpkg cannot automatically > track dependencies for you; you'll have to do that manually as well. > > HTH, Now I have tried this suggestion (dpkg --install), and IT WORKED. But, as you said, this gives dependency problems: some files were wrong (or not?) configured. Is there a way to cinfigure them afterwards? Or a way to know the order in wich to install them? (I got KDE installed, but it didnt work all good...). Thanks again for the tip! (I ll have to try to use Packages.gz -which, i showed in the manual, really is the RIGHT command, thanks again, a bit later on. Now im having a vacation elsewhere..). Axel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dell latitude C810
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > > I can not completely shutdown the laptop with the 'halt' command. I > > put CONFIG_APM=y CONFIG_APM_REAL_MODE_POWER_OFF=y in my kernel. > > > I try to test ACPI but it crash the laptop when I plug or unplug the > > AC power. > > I remember someone earlier on this list or on debian-testing mentioning a > conflict between ACPI and APM. > > - Josef Not so much a conflict, as a replacement of. (or you can think of it as "conflicts" the same way our package system does, only one works at a time.) APM is (to catch anybody up who needs it) power management. It has a very limited amount of states. Basically, it can yank a few chains, but suspend is all or nothing, and you can go to RAM, or to disk. ACPI is a newer standard. In it the subsystems can be given more control commands. In the Linux kernel if you have ACPI compiled in, and an ACPI capable chipset then that's it, you get ACPI, and APM will not be used. Which means, that your problem is not *directly* related to them conflicting. What is much more likely is.. On modern systems APM and ACPI are both supported, but it's a crap shoot which behaves better. Some manufacturers really only test with MSwin, which has put a lot of effort into ACPI support, and their APM is not much to write home about, fidgety. Others have done a best effort to render APM per the industry standards and have just given a shot at ACPI. Or so it seems. At the core of it, as all the parts get faster timing gets to be a tricky thing, and I think there have always been few systems which could ever suspend safely without power-management support active on the OS. So... you'll need to test which behaves better for you, amd since Linux' ACPI support is steadily improving, you'll want to check back on it every once in a while if you went the APM route. In either case, they won't work with their userland support tools. I prefer to pick one and build my kernel with only that one in it, so there's no questions about it. But then, I tend to think that since every laptop is a mostly-unique combo of parts and most of the parts aren't replaceable, that most laptops should get a custom kernel when their owner has the time. * Heather Stern * star@ many places... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Toshiba Satellite Pro 470CDT
Hi, I won a replacement HD on eBay that is -supposed- to be compatible with an older laptop I have ... some months ago in a rare (for me) mixup of numerals I said on this list that this laptop was a Toshiba 740CDT, and got some helpful advice for how to access and replace the HD. It's actually a Toshiba Satellite Pro 470CDT, and sitting down to look at it (the drive arrived in the mail today) tonight, I realized I have no good idea how to get at the drive, to set about removing it and replacing it with the new one. Before I start, er, unscrewing anything, I was wondering whether anyone knew of a good resource for this sort of thing. I haven't found anything on the Toshiba website yet. Thanks, Glenn Becker -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Toshiba Satellite Pro 470CDT
If the 470CDT is anything like my 460CDT, changing the drive is very easy. There is a small panel in front that can be removed by first removing a small screw accessed from the bottom the the unit. Once the screw is out, remove the plastic cover by sliding it down exposing the drive. The drive is in a holder with a lip that you can grip with your fingers, then just pull the drive and holder out. Put the new drive in the holder and plug it back in. Glenn Becker wrote: . > > Before I start, er, unscrewing anything, I was wondering whether anyone knew > of a good resource for this sort of thing. I haven't found anything on the > Toshiba website yet. > > Thanks, > > Glenn Becker > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- tony mollica [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Party with porn stars
on Fri, Dec 21, 2001 at 10:15:14AM -0500, Justin R. Miller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Thus spake Karsten M. Self ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > I've got a few systems for trapping spam. > > I've been quite happy with spamassassin. Feel free to check out my > writeup: > > http://codesorcery.net/docs/spamtricks.html TMTOWTDI, but TAMTOTTD [1] Sounds like spamtricks and my procmail rules do a roughly equivalent bit of scoring. There are two aspect to dealing with spam. One is filtering the messages. The other is reporting it. The advantage to the second step is you _may_ (just may) help make the extent, and economics, of spam less attractive. The problems are several, among them a lot of IPSs (particularly Asian and South American spam) which seem to Just Not Care. Still, first shot of mine goes to the various RBL and blacklist services, meaning ISPs which can't control spam will find themselves dropped off the Net. The "spamurl" script notifies (usually) upstream ISPs. My filters provide similar functionality to spamassasin. The response scripts fill in an additional role. Notes: 1. There's more than one way to do it, but there's also more than one thing to do. -- Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Home of the brave http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/Land of the free We freed Dmitry! Boycott Adobe! Repeal the DMCA! http://www.freesklyarov.org Geek for Hire http://kmself.home.netcom.com/resume.html msg06037/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Toshiba Satellite Pro 470CDT
> If the 470CDT is anything like my 460CDT, changing > the drive is very easy. thanks! i was looking around the 'Net and found some indications that i might need to buy an additional HD 'caddy' or somesuch ... and what with the holidays and all i'm fairly broke. :-) glenn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dell latitude C810
Ok, i have an Inspiron 8100 and had some problems, too. After Kernel 2.4..2 the notebook hung when i tried to suspend it, tired to plug/unplug AC power when i left it untouched for some time (then the apmd daemon tried to suspend it. The same happened when i tried to change the screen size (not the resolution) with the key-combo Fn-Font (just to zoom the screen to the full LCD-Display size, no matter if i tried this in X or on the console). Then i searched the net and found the problem: You have to compile the kernel without "Local APIC Support on uniprocesors" and without it's suboption (obviously). This seems to be a general problem as i understand and no Dell specific one. Then APM/ACPI runs again. BTW, I had my discussions with Dell-Service and they told me that they _DO_ support Linux - but only Redhat and only in the USA. If you are no standard customer but a company customer and bought your notebook inside the USA then you have the option to get it with RedHat Linux installed on your notebook - and they give support for that! That's why i bought it because it knew that i could get everything to run on my notebook :) So much for that. Try to compile your kernel WITHOUT APIC support and you will have no problems - ok not that many. But for APM/ACPI - that's not the problem. I have some problems, too: With kernel 2.4.2 i had no problem suspending - but after kernel 2.4.8 i can't suspend. Why? Good question - this is what i read when i try to suspend at the console (inside X nothing happened): smc-ircc, Suspending nv_kern_pm event: rqst 0x0 data 0x3 NVRM: avoiding suspend resuest, don't want to shutdown!! ircc_net_open(), unable to allocate DMA=3 smc-ircc, Waking up NETDEV WATCHDOG: irda0: transmit timed out irda0: transmit timed out I don't know how to solve this by now. There's nothing in the NVidia docs. And i have another Problem that i'll put in another thread. Hope this helps and hope someone can help :) Mac -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mouse cursor...
On Fri, 21 Dec 2001, Hugo van der Merwe wrote: > Odd thing I find on this laptop (a new one), is that the mouse cursor > has this habit of getting a 30 pixel or so offset to the right every > now and then. I.e. it paints 30 pixels further right than it actually > is. Hmm, that's probably 32, eh. Probably; this sounds remarkably like some hardware (Neomagic?) that I had forever ago that had some bugs in either the software or hardware... [...] > Any ideas why this could be? Who paints the cursor, X, or is there > some ... "hardware" involved? Yes. Specifically, X will do a software cursor if it needs to, but likes to use the hardware support. Most modern hardware supports cursor drawing, but occasional glitches prevent it working correctly or reliably. Check the notes for the X server to see if you can turn off hardware cursors and that may help. Daniel -- I am, as I said, inspired by the biological phenomena in which chemical forces are used in repetitious fashion to produce all kinds of weird effects (one of which is the author). -- Richard Feynman, _There's Plenty of Room at the Bottom_ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Party with porn stars
Thus spake Karsten M. Self ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > There are two aspect to dealing with spam. One is filtering the > messages. The other is reporting it. You can configure a threshold above which spamassassin will report spam as well. I'm not sure of the details, though. > My filters provide similar functionality to spamassasin. The response > scripts fill in an additional role. Nice, I will have a look at your setup sometime. :-) -- Justin R. Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> View my website at http://codesorcery.net Please encrypt email using key 0xC9C40C31 msg06041/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Party with porn stars
> Thus spake Karsten M. Self ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > There are two aspect to dealing with spam. One is filtering the > > messages. The other is reporting it. > > You can configure a threshold above which spamassassin will report spam > as well. I'm not sure of the details, though. > > > My filters provide similar functionality to spamassasin. The response > > scripts fill in an additional role. > > Nice, I will have a look at your setup sometime. :-) I was going to keep my peep shut, as discussing spam in any notable detail often gets more painful than the original slice. (I can cheerfully hit d-lete on the first one. The replies may have useful things.) But after some recent client work in the category I heartily recommend the set of scripts at spambouncer.org. The woman there maintains them; you can check into the scoring levels by various subcategories - as seperate recipes, so they are much easier to read than most. For instance I was able to go in and tweak the "anti porn" category to be more brutal in its scores. As a result, there are far less burning ears over in cube-land, and the client is quite happy. She already has programmed in having an options-file so you can toggle various preferences (such as complaining upstream). It adds headers to things so if you have a site where people have different opinions, they can apply their own Judgements via their MUA or personal procmail script, using the scores and comments. and yes, she accepts "fresh spam" at a spamtrap address, providing that it has actually failed to be spotted by her recipes. Good luck in the war vs. unpleasant bulkmail. . | . Heather Stern | [EMAIL PROTECTED] --->*<--- Starshine Technical Services - * - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ' | ` Sysadmin Support and Training |(800) 938-4078 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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thinkpad pad, woody and a linksys wpc11 lan card
Just purchased a Linksys WPC11 wireless lan card to use with my thinkpad. Currently running woody with kernel 2.4.16. I compiled the kernel with the Prsim drivers as modules. hermes.o, orinoco.o and orinoco_cs.o appear in /lib/modules.../wireless. pcmcia-cs is installed and working properly. When I insert the card into the pcmcia slot I hear one high pitched beep followed by a lower pitch. Cardinfo sts the card has been identified as a D-Link DWL-650 11Mps Wireless Adapter. Searches on google and debian planet reveal conflicting statements on how to configure this card and with which driver. /var/log/daemon.log reveals the following Dec 21 01:48:30 thinkpad cardmgr[2024]: watching 2 sockets Dec 21 01:48:30 thinkpad cardmgr[2024]: initializing socket 0 Dec 21 01:48:30 thinkpad cardmgr[2024]: socket 0: D-Link DWL-650 11 Mbps Wireless Adapter Dec 21 01:48:30 thinkpad cardmgr[2024]: executing: 'modprobe wvlan_cs' Dec 21 01:48:30 thinkpad cardmgr[2024]: + modprobe: Can't locate module wvlan_cs Dec 21 01:48:30 thinkpad cardmgr[2024]: modprobe exited with status 255 Dec 21 01:48:30 thinkpad cardmgr[2024]: module /lib/modules/2.4.16/pcmcia/wvlan_cs.o not available Dec 21 01:48:32 thinkpad cardmgr[2024]: get dev info on socket 0 failed: Resource temporarily unavailable How do I get this card to load the appropriate module which I assume is orinoco_cs? I tried cardctl ident and the output was: Socket 0: product info: "Instant Wireless " , " Network PC CARD" , "Version 01.02", "" manfid: 0x0156, 0x0002 function: 6 (network) The end of /etc/pcmcia/config sts: #Include configuration files for add-on drivers source ./*.conf #Include local configuration settings source ./config.opts So witha text editor I created a file called linksys_wpc11.conf and added the following: card "Instant Wireless Network PC CARD Version 01.02" manfid 0x0156, 0x0002 bind "orinoco_cs" This seems to have no effect, I have been reading the docs and man pages, but I can't seem to figure out what I'm doing wrong. Any help help or redirection to simple (i.e. newbie) documention would be appreciated.
Mouse cursor...
Odd thing I find on this laptop (a new one), is that the mouse cursor has this habit of getting a 30 pixel or so offset to the right every now and then. I.e. it paints 30 pixels further right than it actually is. Hmm, that's probably 32, eh. The busy icon for KDE launching apps still appears in the correct place, i.e. it usually appears just to the bottom right of the cursor. With the cursor offset by 32 pixels, it appears to the bottom left, as it's still in the same place. I've had this problem remain over a reboot once. That was ugly. Now, just now, for the first time, the problem "fixed itself" without me doing much, I was still in X, working with the mouse, and it jumped the 32 pixels back to where it should be. Not sure if it really is 32 pixels, but thats about what it looks like. Any ideas why this could be? Who paints the cursor, X, or is there some ... "hardware" involved? Thanks, Hugo van der Merwe
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AW: X and 8 mb
As I am running (creeping) X with 4 MB (486/25/4 Highscreen Handy) I use wm2. I think there is a more (maybe the most) minimalistic windowmanager called 'lwm' (light window manager) - but maybe too minimalistic. Dieter > Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Do you have any ideas which is the "best" windowmanager for my old P1, > 75MHz, 8mb ram Highscreen LeBook? >
Re: Party with porn stars
On Friday 21 December 2001 02:16 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hey everyone, > > Ever wanted to party with your favorite porn stars?? relay for spam geez.. what a waste of a good FreeBSD box.. @debian:~$ whois 64.38.226.213 CWIE LLC (NETBLK-CWIE-BLK-1) 1125 E Glendale AVE Phoenix, AZ 85020 US Netname: CWIE-BLK-1 Netblock: 64.38.192.0 - 64.38.255.255 Maintainer: CWIE Coordinator: Cadwell, Ron (RC622-ARIN) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 602-248-4963 Domain System inverse mapping provided by: NS1.CWIE.NET 64.38.192.10 NS2.CWIE.NET 64.38.192.11 NS3.CWIE.NET 64.38.192.12 NS4.CWIE.NET 64.38.192.13 ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE Record last updated on 15-Nov-2000. Database last updated on 20-Dec-2001 19:55:42 EDT. @debian:~$ sudo nmap -sX -O -v 64.38.226.213 Password: Starting nmap V. 2.54BETA30 ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) Host mkmm.cavecreek.net (64.38.226.213) appears to be up ... good. Initiating XMAS Scan against mkmm.cavecreek.net (64.38.226.213) The XMAS Scan took 29 seconds to scan 1549 ports. Adding open port 80/tcp Adding open port 21/tcp Adding open port 22/tcp Adding open port 25/tcp Adding open port 23/tcp Adding open port 3306/tcp Adding open port 111/tcp For OSScan assuming that port 21 is open and port 1 is closed and neither are firewalled Interesting ports on mkmm.cavecreek.net (64.38.226.213): (The 1542 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed) Port State Service 21/tcp openftp 22/tcp openssh 23/tcp opentelnet 25/tcp opensmtp 80/tcp openhttp 111/tcpopensunrpc 3306/tcp openmysql Remote operating system guess: FreeBSD 4.3 - 4.4PRERELEASE Uptime 63.265 days (since Thu Oct 18 22:07:59 2001) TCP Sequence Prediction: Class=truly random Difficulty=999 (Good luck!) IPID Sequence Generation: Busy server or unknown class
Re: Party with porn stars
on Fri, Dec 21, 2001 at 03:39:48AM -0500, k l u r t ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Friday 21 December 2001 02:16 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hey everyone,
> >
> > Ever wanted to party with your favorite porn stars??
>
> relay for spam
> geez.. what a waste of a good FreeBSD box..
I've got a few systems for trapping spam. A modified set of Lars
Wirzenius's procmail filters ("spamfilter" in Debian), an asian-language
trap, and a few scripts to help automate the response process.
I'll post the whole mess at some point, but it's a bit unweildy (ugly,
but it works ;-).
I'm attaching one script I've been polishing over the past few days. It
scans a message (or attachments) for URLs, gets the IP, then runs a
WHOIS query, extracts email addresses, and converts them to
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" form. abuse.net is a remailer run by John Levine, it
sends mail to known (or guessed) abuse reporting addresses for sites, as
well as sharing information with other services. Spamcomp.net is a
similar service. Substitute as appropriate.
My process in mutt is to pipe the message (or if it's encoded, an
attachment) through my script, paste the addresses into the "To:" line,
and send. Results from ISPs are moderately impressive. If nothing
else, ISPs will find they're getting massive complaints to spam.
The script isn't perfect. It doesn't handle some obfuscated URL
(@-encoded, big-number URLs, though I'm working on it). But it handles
most cases well. I somewhat prefer the semi-auto nature of it as I have
some control over the actual execution and triggering.
The '-v' flag increases verbosity.
Peace.
--
Karsten M. Self http://kmself.home.netcom.com/
What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Home of the brave
http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/Land of the free
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#!/bin/sh
PATH=/bin:/usr/bin
function get_urls () {
# Extract a set of distinct URLs from stdin.
awk '
BEGIN { FS = "\t <>,.=\"" }
/http:/ {
for( i=0; i <= NR; i++ ) {
URL = ""
if ( match( $i, "http:")) {
URL = substr($i, index ($1, "http:") + 7 )
split( URL, aURL, "[^-.A-z0-9_]" )
URL = aURL[1]
if ( length(URL) > 0 ) printf( "%s\n", URL )
}
}
}
' | sort -u
}
function NicFILTER () {
# Extract email addresses from WHOIS NIC data and post as
# "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" format.
awk '
/@/ {
for( i = 1; i <= NF; i++ ) {
if ( $i ~ /@/ ) {
host = substr( $i, index( $i, "@" ) + 1 )
gsub( "[^.A-z0-9_-]", "", host )
printf( "[EMAIL PROTECTED]", host )
}
}
}' | sort -u
}
# Test for a verbose flag.
VERBOSE=n
if [ x"$1" = x"-v" ]; then
VERBOSE=y
fi
case $VERBOSE in
y) function uniqlist() { cat; } ;;
n) function uniqlist() { sort -u | awk '{ printf( "%s ", $0 ) }'; } ;;
*) echo "Bad VERBOSE value: $VERBOSE" 1>&2; exit 1 ;;
esac
#
clear
URLLIST=$( get_urls /dev/stdin )
if [ -z "$URLLIST" ];
then
echo "No URLs found"
exit
else
echo "URLs: $URLLIST"
fi
for URL in $URLLIST
do
if [ "$VERBOSE" = "y" ]; then echo -e "$URL: \c"; fi
HOST=$( host $URL 2>&1 )
if echo "$HOST" | grep -q "does not exist"; then
echo "No IP found for host $URL"
continue
elif echo "$HOST" | grep -q " A "; then
IPS=$( echo "$HOST" | awk '/A / {print $3}')
if [ "$VERBOSE" = "y" ]; then echo -e "$IPS \c"; fi
else
IPS=$( echo "$HOST" | awk '/^Address:/ {print $2}' )
if [ "$VERBOSE" = "y" ]; then echo -e "$IPS \c"; fi
fi
for IP in $IPS
do
# We want a few specific bits from WHOIS
# Several forms of this:
# InterNIC ARIN: US: check for "NETBLK"
# RIPE: EU.
# APNIC KRNIC: Asia. Read from
# First, find the netblock:
# echo "Searching whois"
WHOIS=$( whois $IP )
if echo "$WHOIS" | grep -q InterNIC; then
REGISTRY=InterNIC
elif echo "$WHOIS" | grep -q "ARIN Registration Services"; then
REGISTRY=ARIN
elif echo "$WHOIS" | egrep -q '(RIPE|DENIC)'; then
REGISTRY=RIPE
elif echo "$WHOIS" | grep -q KRNIC; then
REGISTRY=KRNIC
elif echo "$WHOIS" | grep -q APNIC; then
REGISTRY=APNIC
else :
fi
# Check to see if we're referencing a netblock...
if echo "$WHOIS" | grep -q "NETBLK"; then
NETBLOCK=$(
echo $WHOIS |
sed -ne '/^.*\(NETBLK[-A-Z0-9]*\).*/s//\1/p' |
Re: thinkpad pad, woody and a linksys wpc11 lan card
On Fri, 2001-12-21 at 20:05, nick lidakis wrote: > Just purchased a Linksys WPC11 wireless lan card to use with my > thinkpad. Currently running woody with kernel 2.4.16. I compiled the > kernel with the Prsim drivers as modules. hermes.o, orinoco.o and > orinoco_cs.o appear in /lib/modules.../wireless. pcmcia-cs is installed > and > working properly. > > When I insert the card into the pcmcia slot I hear one high pitched beep > followed by a lower pitch. Cardinfo sts the card has been identified as > a D-Link DWL-650 11Mps Wireless Adapter. Searches on google and debian > planet reveal conflicting statements on how to configure this card and > with which driver. > > /var/log/daemon.log reveals the following > > Dec 21 01:48:30 thinkpad cardmgr[2024]: watching 2 sockets > Dec 21 01:48:30 thinkpad cardmgr[2024]: initializing socket 0 > Dec 21 01:48:30 thinkpad cardmgr[2024]: socket 0: D-Link DWL-650 11 Mbps > Wireless Adapter > Dec 21 01:48:30 thinkpad cardmgr[2024]: executing: 'modprobe wvlan_cs' > Dec 21 01:48:30 thinkpad cardmgr[2024]: + modprobe: Can't locate module > wvlan_cs > Dec 21 01:48:30 thinkpad cardmgr[2024]: modprobe exited with status 255 > Dec 21 01:48:30 thinkpad cardmgr[2024]: module > /lib/modules/2.4.16/pcmcia/wvlan_cs.o not available > Dec 21 01:48:32 thinkpad cardmgr[2024]: get dev info on socket 0 failed: > Resource temporarily unavailable > > How do I get this card to load the appropriate module which I assume is > orinoco_cs? Looks like you're using kernel PCMCIA, but this card is defined to use a different module with David Hinds PCMCIA package. You're using that for the /etc/pcmcia/config, however, so the card is being identified as a Wavelan compatible. I think the general approach you have been taking is right, but after you have changed that config file you have to (A) stop and start pcmcia support (the config is read at startup) and (B) make sure the existing entry that points it at wvlan_cs is gone. Cheers, Andrew. -- Andrew @ Catalyst .Net.NZ Ltd, PO Box 11-053, Manners St, Wellington WEB: http://catalyst.net.nz/PHYS: Level 2, 150-154 Willis St DDI: +64(4)916-7201MOB: +64(21)635-694OFFICE: +64(4)499-2267 Are you enrolled at http://schoolreunions.co.nz/ yet?
Re: Party with porn stars
Thus spake Karsten M. Self (kmself@ix.netcom.com): > I've got a few systems for trapping spam. I've been quite happy with spamassassin. Feel free to check out my writeup: http://codesorcery.net/docs/spamtricks.html -- Justin R. Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> View my website at http://codesorcery.net Please encrypt email using key 0xC9C40C31 pgphObeRc6VQf.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Party with porn stars
On Friday 21 December 2001 07:15, Justin R. Miller wrote: > Thus spake Karsten M. Self (kmself@ix.netcom.com): > > I've got a few systems for trapping spam. > > I've been quite happy with spamassassin. Feel free to check out my > writeup: > > http://codesorcery.net/docs/spamtricks.html I just installed razor and it works quite well.
Re: Installing programs from a none-debian CD or from the Harddisk
> - Original Message - > From: "Axel Bojer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mike Alborn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 1:23 AM > Subject: Re: Installing programs from a none-debian CD or from the Harddisk > > > >Mike Alborn answered me this: > > "Hi, > apt will only work if the source media is correctly fomatted > (ie., just putting some .deb files on a CD will *not* mean that apt can > make sense of the files.) However, have you tried using 'dpkg > --install > /path/filename'? This allows you to bypass apt and install packages > directly. Keep in mind, though, that like rpm, dpkg cannot automatically > track dependencies for you; you'll have to do that manually as well. > > HTH, Now I have tried this suggestion (dpkg --install), and IT WORKED. But, as you said, this gives dependency problems: some files were wrong (or not?) configured. Is there a way to cinfigure them afterwards? Or a way to know the order in wich to install them? (I got KDE installed, but it didnt work all good...). Thanks again for the tip! (I ll have to try to use Packages.gz -which, i showed in the manual, really is the RIGHT command, thanks again, a bit later on. Now im having a vacation elsewhere..). Axel
Re: Dell latitude C810
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > > I can not completely shutdown the laptop with the 'halt' command. I > > put CONFIG_APM=y CONFIG_APM_REAL_MODE_POWER_OFF=y in my kernel. > > > I try to test ACPI but it crash the laptop when I plug or unplug the > > AC power. > > I remember someone earlier on this list or on debian-testing mentioning a > conflict between ACPI and APM. > > - Josef Not so much a conflict, as a replacement of. (or you can think of it as "conflicts" the same way our package system does, only one works at a time.) APM is (to catch anybody up who needs it) power management. It has a very limited amount of states. Basically, it can yank a few chains, but suspend is all or nothing, and you can go to RAM, or to disk. ACPI is a newer standard. In it the subsystems can be given more control commands. In the Linux kernel if you have ACPI compiled in, and an ACPI capable chipset then that's it, you get ACPI, and APM will not be used. Which means, that your problem is not *directly* related to them conflicting. What is much more likely is.. On modern systems APM and ACPI are both supported, but it's a crap shoot which behaves better. Some manufacturers really only test with MSwin, which has put a lot of effort into ACPI support, and their APM is not much to write home about, fidgety. Others have done a best effort to render APM per the industry standards and have just given a shot at ACPI. Or so it seems. At the core of it, as all the parts get faster timing gets to be a tricky thing, and I think there have always been few systems which could ever suspend safely without power-management support active on the OS. So... you'll need to test which behaves better for you, amd since Linux' ACPI support is steadily improving, you'll want to check back on it every once in a while if you went the APM route. In either case, they won't work with their userland support tools. I prefer to pick one and build my kernel with only that one in it, so there's no questions about it. But then, I tend to think that since every laptop is a mostly-unique combo of parts and most of the parts aren't replaceable, that most laptops should get a custom kernel when their owner has the time. * Heather Stern * star@ many places...
Toshiba Satellite Pro 470CDT
Hi, I won a replacement HD on eBay that is -supposed- to be compatible with an older laptop I have ... some months ago in a rare (for me) mixup of numerals I said on this list that this laptop was a Toshiba 740CDT, and got some helpful advice for how to access and replace the HD. It's actually a Toshiba Satellite Pro 470CDT, and sitting down to look at it (the drive arrived in the mail today) tonight, I realized I have no good idea how to get at the drive, to set about removing it and replacing it with the new one. Before I start, er, unscrewing anything, I was wondering whether anyone knew of a good resource for this sort of thing. I haven't found anything on the Toshiba website yet. Thanks, Glenn Becker
Re: Toshiba Satellite Pro 470CDT
If the 470CDT is anything like my 460CDT, changing the drive is very easy. There is a small panel in front that can be removed by first removing a small screw accessed from the bottom the the unit. Once the screw is out, remove the plastic cover by sliding it down exposing the drive. The drive is in a holder with a lip that you can grip with your fingers, then just pull the drive and holder out. Put the new drive in the holder and plug it back in. Glenn Becker wrote: . > > Before I start, er, unscrewing anything, I was wondering whether anyone knew > of a good resource for this sort of thing. I haven't found anything on the > Toshiba website yet. > > Thanks, > > Glenn Becker > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- tony mollica [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Party with porn stars
on Fri, Dec 21, 2001 at 10:15:14AM -0500, Justin R. Miller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Thus spake Karsten M. Self (kmself@ix.netcom.com): > > > I've got a few systems for trapping spam. > > I've been quite happy with spamassassin. Feel free to check out my > writeup: > > http://codesorcery.net/docs/spamtricks.html TMTOWTDI, but TAMTOTTD [1] Sounds like spamtricks and my procmail rules do a roughly equivalent bit of scoring. There are two aspect to dealing with spam. One is filtering the messages. The other is reporting it. The advantage to the second step is you _may_ (just may) help make the extent, and economics, of spam less attractive. The problems are several, among them a lot of IPSs (particularly Asian and South American spam) which seem to Just Not Care. Still, first shot of mine goes to the various RBL and blacklist services, meaning ISPs which can't control spam will find themselves dropped off the Net. The "spamurl" script notifies (usually) upstream ISPs. My filters provide similar functionality to spamassasin. The response scripts fill in an additional role. Notes: 1. There's more than one way to do it, but there's also more than one thing to do. -- Karsten M. Self http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Home of the brave http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/Land of the free We freed Dmitry! Boycott Adobe! Repeal the DMCA! http://www.freesklyarov.org Geek for Hire http://kmself.home.netcom.com/resume.html pgpPM4CU4FvsQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Toshiba Satellite Pro 470CDT
> If the 470CDT is anything like my 460CDT, changing > the drive is very easy. thanks! i was looking around the 'Net and found some indications that i might need to buy an additional HD 'caddy' or somesuch ... and what with the holidays and all i'm fairly broke. :-) glenn
Re: Dell latitude C810
Ok, i have an Inspiron 8100 and had some problems, too. After Kernel 2.4..2 the notebook hung when i tried to suspend it, tired to plug/unplug AC power when i left it untouched for some time (then the apmd daemon tried to suspend it. The same happened when i tried to change the screen size (not the resolution) with the key-combo Fn-Font (just to zoom the screen to the full LCD-Display size, no matter if i tried this in X or on the console). Then i searched the net and found the problem: You have to compile the kernel without "Local APIC Support on uniprocesors" and without it's suboption (obviously). This seems to be a general problem as i understand and no Dell specific one. Then APM/ACPI runs again. BTW, I had my discussions with Dell-Service and they told me that they _DO_ support Linux - but only Redhat and only in the USA. If you are no standard customer but a company customer and bought your notebook inside the USA then you have the option to get it with RedHat Linux installed on your notebook - and they give support for that! That's why i bought it because it knew that i could get everything to run on my notebook :) So much for that. Try to compile your kernel WITHOUT APIC support and you will have no problems - ok not that many. But for APM/ACPI - that's not the problem. I have some problems, too: With kernel 2.4.2 i had no problem suspending - but after kernel 2.4.8 i can't suspend. Why? Good question - this is what i read when i try to suspend at the console (inside X nothing happened): smc-ircc, Suspending nv_kern_pm event: rqst 0x0 data 0x3 NVRM: avoiding suspend resuest, don't want to shutdown!! ircc_net_open(), unable to allocate DMA=3 smc-ircc, Waking up NETDEV WATCHDOG: irda0: transmit timed out irda0: transmit timed out I don't know how to solve this by now. There's nothing in the NVidia docs. And i have another Problem that i'll put in another thread. Hope this helps and hope someone can help :) Mac
Re: Mouse cursor...
On Fri, 21 Dec 2001, Hugo van der Merwe wrote: > Odd thing I find on this laptop (a new one), is that the mouse cursor > has this habit of getting a 30 pixel or so offset to the right every > now and then. I.e. it paints 30 pixels further right than it actually > is. Hmm, that's probably 32, eh. Probably; this sounds remarkably like some hardware (Neomagic?) that I had forever ago that had some bugs in either the software or hardware... [...] > Any ideas why this could be? Who paints the cursor, X, or is there > some ... "hardware" involved? Yes. Specifically, X will do a software cursor if it needs to, but likes to use the hardware support. Most modern hardware supports cursor drawing, but occasional glitches prevent it working correctly or reliably. Check the notes for the X server to see if you can turn off hardware cursors and that may help. Daniel -- I am, as I said, inspired by the biological phenomena in which chemical forces are used in repetitious fashion to produce all kinds of weird effects (one of which is the author). -- Richard Feynman, _There's Plenty of Room at the Bottom_
Re: Party with porn stars
Thus spake Karsten M. Self (kmself@ix.netcom.com): > There are two aspect to dealing with spam. One is filtering the > messages. The other is reporting it. You can configure a threshold above which spamassassin will report spam as well. I'm not sure of the details, though. > My filters provide similar functionality to spamassasin. The response > scripts fill in an additional role. Nice, I will have a look at your setup sometime. :-) -- Justin R. Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> View my website at http://codesorcery.net Please encrypt email using key 0xC9C40C31 pgpMOm1sltCNo.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Party with porn stars
> Thus spake Karsten M. Self (kmself@ix.netcom.com): > > > There are two aspect to dealing with spam. One is filtering the > > messages. The other is reporting it. > > You can configure a threshold above which spamassassin will report spam > as well. I'm not sure of the details, though. > > > My filters provide similar functionality to spamassasin. The response > > scripts fill in an additional role. > > Nice, I will have a look at your setup sometime. :-) I was going to keep my peep shut, as discussing spam in any notable detail often gets more painful than the original slice. (I can cheerfully hit d-lete on the first one. The replies may have useful things.) But after some recent client work in the category I heartily recommend the set of scripts at spambouncer.org. The woman there maintains them; you can check into the scoring levels by various subcategories - as seperate recipes, so they are much easier to read than most. For instance I was able to go in and tweak the "anti porn" category to be more brutal in its scores. As a result, there are far less burning ears over in cube-land, and the client is quite happy. She already has programmed in having an options-file so you can toggle various preferences (such as complaining upstream). It adds headers to things so if you have a site where people have different opinions, they can apply their own Judgements via their MUA or personal procmail script, using the scores and comments. and yes, she accepts "fresh spam" at a spamtrap address, providing that it has actually failed to be spotted by her recipes. Good luck in the war vs. unpleasant bulkmail. . | . Heather Stern | [EMAIL PROTECTED] --->*<--- Starshine Technical Services - * - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ' | ` Sysadmin Support and Training |(800) 938-4078
