Re: Installing programs from a none-debian CD or from the Harddisk

2001-12-17 Thread Jacques L'helgoualc'h

Axel Bojer a écrit, lundi 17 décembre 2001, à 00:39 :
> Hello Debian runners!

Hi!

[...]
> -Then i tipped: dpkg-scanpackages debs override | gzip > debs/packages.gz

is Packages.gz better?

You can also download override files, from the "indices" directory
(aside "dists")

[...]
> Hope someone could think of something!
> Thanks in advance

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Re: [ltp] X22 issues

2001-12-17 Thread Michael Nordmeyer

On Saturday 15 December 2001 20:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Quoting Ross Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > 2. I would like to keep Win2K and duel boot to Linux. What is the
> > easiest
> > way to duel-boot a Linux/Win2K machine?
>
> Simple, if its like my A22m, there will be two FAT32 partitions. Just
> resize these (with Partition Magic, or something else), and install
> Linux. You can safetly install lilo to the MBR, and boot Win2k using
> an entry in lilo.conf
>
> > 3. IBM have not provided a rescue disk but have instead used a
> > rescue partition, which is the strangest idea I've ever heard. What
> > if I need to
> > rescue the machine because the disk crashed? As you can imagine,
> > this is a
> > large partition (~750M) - does anyone know if it can be burnt onto
> > a couple
> > of CDs easily? Has anyone asked for rescue CDs from IBM?

IBM ships the X2x models by default without any CD-like devices. That's 
probably the reason they use a recovery partition. Of course IBM should 
ship the recovery CD as well.

> Are you in Australasia by any chance? They did the same to me. I
> think it has to do with Microsoft's attitude to us (they think we're
> a bunch of pirates). Still a very stupid idea though.

I tried a recovery CD for a Thinkpad 600E a while ago on a different 
computer. It didn't work. It seems the CDs are locked to the specific 
Thinkpad model they were built for.

> As for saving the SERVICE partition, mount it under Linux. See if has
> the programs in the root directory neccessary for booting
> (command.com is the only one I can think of right now). If it is,
> then copy the files onto two CD's, or use a multi-volume tar archive.
>
> Cameron Kerr

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Re: Intel Wireless 2011 PCMCIA on Debian

2001-12-17 Thread Dave Swegen

On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 01:14:55PM +0800, Patrick Hsieh wrote:
> Hello list,
> 
> I am trying to put my intel wireless 2011 pc card on debian and make it
> work. Is there anyone who has been working on it? Any howto or
> instructions are highly appreciated.

You'll need to get the spectrum 24 drivers, which are available from
http://sourceforge.net/projects/spectrum24/ and patch the pcmcia
sources.

As I recall there are reasonable instructions in the package. However,
there was some issue with it so the drivers needed patching (this was
quite some months ago, so it's probably been fixed by now).

Mail me if you have any problems.

Cheers
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thinkpad R 30

2001-12-17 Thread Michael Hothorn


Hi all, 

I would like to buy an IBM Thinkpad R 30. Has anyone tried installing
woody on this machine ??

bye
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Re: X22 issues

2001-12-17 Thread Michael Nordmeyer

On Saturday 15 December 2001 23:07, Michael Thaler wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 15, 2001 at 06:43:17PM -, Ross Burton wrote:
> > partition, which is the strangest idea I've ever heard.  What if I
> > need to rescue the machine because the disk crashed?  As you can
> > imagine, this is a large partition (~750M) - does anyone know if it
> > can be burnt onto a couple of CDs easily? Has anyone asked for
> > rescue CDs from IBM?
>
> if it is a Fat32 partion mount it with Linux and copy it to a file
> cp /dev/hdaX filename where X is the partion should do. You can tar
> it, maybe it fits on a CD. The same you can just do with your Win
> Partition. You can just copy it back if win crashes and will not work
> anymore.

Give partimage  -- a PartitionMagic-like tool for unix 
-- a try. There are debian packages in woody IIRC. The recovery 
patition is probably hidden but this shouldn't be a problem for 
partimage.

>
> Greetings,
> Michael

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Re: Installing problems on X22

2001-12-17 Thread Michael Nordmeyer

On Sunday 16 December 2001 16:17, Ross Burton wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've just tried to install Debian onto my X22 laptop.  I booted the
> CD but the kernel hangs on "md driver...".  Does anyone know how to
> get around this?  I could install RH72 which LinuxCare say installs
> fine, but I'd rather stick with Debian.
>
> Thanks for any help,
> Ross

Hi Ross,

I've read on the list that it's possible to boot with a different 
debian CD. It seems there're different boot kernels on different debian 
CDs.

Alternatively you can try to use different boot disks. There're some 
unofficial boot disks floating around with reiserfs or ext3 support for 
example.

IIRC the md driver is for logical volumes or raid. May be the recovery 
partition caused the md driver to hang.

Regards,

Michael


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Re: Installing problems on X22

2001-12-17 Thread Ross Burton

On Mon, 2001-12-17 at 09:41, Michael Nordmeyer wrote:
> On Sunday 16 December 2001 16:17, Ross Burton wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've just tried to install Debian onto my X22 laptop.  I booted the
> > CD but the kernel hangs on "md driver...".  Does anyone know how to
> > get around this?  I could install RH72 which LinuxCare say installs
> > fine, but I'd rather stick with Debian.

> I've read on the list that it's possible to boot with a different 
> debian CD. It seems there're different boot kernels on different debian 
> CDs.
> 
> Alternatively you can try to use different boot disks. There're some 
> unofficial boot disks floating around with reiserfs or ext3 support for 
> example.

I'll probably try and find XFS boot disks, as I would like to use XFS on
the laptop.  Thanks.

> IIRC the md driver is for logical volumes or raid. May be the recovery 
> partition caused the md driver to hang.

I copied it to my desktop and used Partition Magic to re-arrange the
disk, its not 50/50 FAT32/ext2.  Interesting...

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Re: alt-get update via ADSL from command line?

2001-12-17 Thread Heather

> On Sun, 2001-12-16 at 17:21, Doc wrote:
> > Gee, Linux has a way to make me feel real dumb ... 
> > 
> > I am stuck at the command line due to an X conflict.  I need to 
> > run apt-get update and apt-get upgrade for Debian Unstable to 
> > see if that resolves things on my OmniBook 4100. (Or should 
> > I grab a newer version of Linux instead?)
> > 
> > Can someone suggest what generic Linux utility included with 
> > 2.4.14 and/or Debian Unstable will cause my laptop to 
> > recognize the Verizon-Westell ADSL modem? 
> > 
> > (I am running through a 3Com 589c pcmcia nic, if that is 
> > relevant.)
> > 
> > This all worked fine when I had access to X and could run 
> > Mozilla -- it managed the interface and then I worked from 
> > the command line.
> > 
> > Thanks!  doc 
> > 
> Doc,
> 
> If I understand you, your ADSL provider makes you login through a Web
> interface. If that's the case, you might try the command-line web
> browsers "links" or "lynx." apt-get install should get you either one. I
> think "links" is a little more flexible.
> 
> Tony

links has the advantage of looking a little more like a normal layout, it 
makes some attempt towards tabling and frames.

I'm personally fond of lynx-ssl though, and I set up metamail to use zgv
for images in text mode.  It doesn't make lynx intermix graphics, but with
the options set right, I can select the graphic and see what it looks like,
which might be handy if they have a screen shot or something.

I dunno if links has any means to hook up with metamail.

Some of my friends are very pleased with w3m though.

All 3 of them *can* support SSL, but I don't remember if they're all 
available that way from the debian system.

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Re: [ltp] X22 issues

2001-12-17 Thread Heather

[my, what a long cc list.  Sigh]

> On Saturday 15 December 2001 20:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Quoting Ross Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > 2. I would like to keep Win2K and duel boot to Linux. What is the
> > > easiest way to duel-boot a Linux/Win2K machine?

depends on your definition of "easy":

1. just let me pick one at boot time
then all you need is a boot loader which lets you list more than
one selection.  lilo can do this, and then at a lilo prompt it can
mention what options it has been told.

2. ...uh, from a menu.
well, there are other boot loaders;  what makes them "not easy"
is that you have to go fetch them.  GAG is a nice graphical 
environment (free, it stands for Gestor de Arranque Gráfico,
http://www.rastersoft.com/gageng.htm).  You could use the 
commercial app System Commander.  I don't know if MS still offers
a useful way to configure a startup menu under their boot loader,
but if so, then you can use a stanza in it, and have loadlin (or
does linload work better on w2k?) load up linux via that.

3. I like MSwin a lot and I'm just experimenting with this Linux thingy
use whatever version of loadlin or linload works with your
revision of Windows(tm) -- and keep the correct copy of a
linux kernel available in Linux space.  crafting the command
line for it will feel a little weird, but once you have that
right, you can make Linux an icon on the desk or toss it in your
start menu.

> > Simple, if its like my A22m, there will be two FAT32 partitions. Just
> > resize these (with Partition Magic, or something else), and install
> > Linux. You can safetly install lilo to the MBR, and boot Win2k using
> > an entry in lilo.conf
> >
> > > 3. IBM have not provided a rescue disk but have instead used a
> > > rescue partition, which is the strangest idea I've ever heard. What
> > > if I need to
> > > rescue the machine because the disk crashed? As you can imagine,
> > > this is a
> > > large partition (~750M) - does anyone know if it can be burnt onto
> > > a couple
> > > of CDs easily? Has anyone asked for rescue CDs from IBM?
> 
> IBM ships the X2x models by default without any CD-like devices. That's 
> probably the reason they use a recovery partition. Of course IBM should 
> ship the recovery CD as well.
> 
> > Are you in Australasia by any chance? They did the same to me. I
> > think it has to do with Microsoft's attitude to us (they think we're
> > a bunch of pirates). Still a very stupid idea though.
> 
> I tried a recovery CD for a Thinkpad 600E a while ago on a different 
> computer. It didn't work. It seems the CDs are locked to the specific 
> Thinkpad model they were built for.

It's true - I've seen a lot of thinkpads and they are mostly quite different
under the hood.
 
> > As for saving the SERVICE partition, mount it under Linux. See if has
> > the programs in the root directory neccessary for booting
> > (command.com is the only one I can think of right now). If it is,
> > then copy the files onto two CD's, or use a multi-volume tar archive.

Oh dear.  Cameron, it takes a few more pieces than command.com to make a 
DOS partition bootable.  Having him use partimage to "suck the image off
the disk" -- that'd probably work.  But just taking the non-hidden files?
Nope, it's way too easy to miss something that you only know is importnat
when it's too late because it's long gone.

tar isn't good at preserving filesystem-specific permissions.  In FAT that'd
be hidden,system,archive - in ext2 that'd be "immutable" "append-only" and
other such things.  The fs guys call these things attributes... and in that
other half of his dual boot, if he ever needs SERVICE, he's likely to be 
working with software that actually cares about those attributes.  Sorry.

Ross, partimage is a utility for helping folks clone harddisks.  I hope you
find it useful.


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Re: [ltp] X22 issues

2001-12-17 Thread Michael Nordmeyer

On Monday 17 December 2001 19:16, Heather wrote:
> [my, what a long cc list.  Sigh]
>
> > On Saturday 15 December 2001 20:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
> > > Quoting Ross Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > > 2. I would like to keep Win2K and duel boot to Linux. What is
> > > > the easiest way to duel-boot a Linux/Win2K machine?
>

[...]

> >
> > IBM ships the X2x models by default without any CD-like devices.
> > That's probably the reason they use a recovery partition. Of course
> > IBM should ship the recovery CD as well.
> >
> > > Are you in Australasia by any chance? They did the same to me. I
> > > think it has to do with Microsoft's attitude to us (they think
> > > we're a bunch of pirates). Still a very stupid idea though.
> >
> > I tried a recovery CD for a Thinkpad 600E a while ago on a
> > different computer. It didn't work. It seems the CDs are locked to
> > the specific Thinkpad model they were built for.
>
> It's true - I've seen a lot of thinkpads and they are mostly quite
> different under the hood.

Sure the hardware is different. What tried to say is that the recovery 
CD didn't even start because some kind of firmware detection executed 
from CD stated that this CD isn't suitable for this thinkpad.

If CHS mappings would be identically for both of the harddisks then the 
disk image could be applied to the harddisk. Afterwards Windows would 
be able to detect hardware changes and (hopefully) install the proper 
drivers.

But the easiest way is probably just to ask IBM if they can supply a 
recovery CD. I got my X20 hdd replaced because of a hardware failure. 
The new hdd didn't come with a recovery partition. So I asked for a 
replacement CD and promptly got one.

[...]

>
>
> * Heather Stern * star@ many places...

Regards,

Michael


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Old Laptop as printserver

2001-12-17 Thread Andreas Tscharner

Hello World,

I have an old DX-4 (80486 - 100MHz) laptop. I want to use it as printserver. The 
problem is: It has no CD-drive.

So my idea was to use my NE2000 compatible network card on the laptop and export (NFS) 
my CD drive on my desktop computer. Therefore it should be possible to install via NFS.

My questions:
Do the standard boot disks from potato (2.2rc0) have the pcmcia modules (NE 2000) and 
NFS modules or do I have to make a boot floppy myself?

Is there anywhere on the net an installation guide to set up a printserver (used from 
Linux and from Windows side)?

Thank you for your answers.

Best regards
Andreas
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Installing Debian on Gateway Solo

2001-12-17 Thread Bryan Daniels

I have an old(er) Gateway Solo, with a broken CD-ROM.
I have been trying to install Debian Linux 2.2 Rev_4
off of floppy disks. I am very close, but not quite
there. I am attemping to install 'idepci_2.2.19'. I
have copied the images for rescue.bin and root.bin on
to two floppies and know that they work by testing on
another unit.

I can boot and rescue.bin works. I can't, however, get
root.bin to load as the ramdisk. I think that my
problem is that my 'floppy-drive' is actually an
'ide-drive' instead. It is recognized by the
rescue.bin as (LS-120 SLIM 05 UDH Floppy, ATAPI Floppy
drive) and is mapped to hdd with partitions
hdd1..hdd4. I am trying to find the right parmaters to
give at the 'root: prompt'. I have read the 'HOWTO
BootPrompt' but don't have the paramaters down yet. I
have tried 'linux root=/dev/hdd', 'linux
floppy=/dev/hdd', and many more. So far no good. 

Any ideas would be welcome.

Thanks,

Bryan Daniels

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Re: Old Laptop as printserver

2001-12-17 Thread Hubert Chan

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Andreas> My questions: Do the standard boot disks from potato (2.2rc0)
Andreas> have the pcmcia modules (NE 2000) and NFS modules or do I have
Andreas> to make a boot floppy myself?

It has PCMCIA modules.  My network card claims to be an NE2000
compatible (It's a Linksys), and it was recognized properly, so NE2000
should be no problem.  Whether or not it will be able to recognize
_your_ card is a different story, but I don't think there should be any
problems.

I would assume that it has whatever NFS modules, since IIRC NFS is one
of the installation options.  But I always just install over http, so I
don't know about this one.

Andreas> Is there anywhere on the net an installation guide to set up a
Andreas> printserver (used from Linux and from Windows side)?

For Windows, you'd have to look into samba.  There is a samba HOWTO that
you can look at.  You'll also have to pick which printer daemon to use
- -- there's lpr, lprng, and CUPS that I know of.  I think that all of
them can be used with samba.  For getting them to work with Linux
clients, probably the hardest part is just configuring the clients.

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Re: Installing programs from a none-debian CD or from the Harddisk

2001-12-17 Thread Jacques L'helgoualc'h
Axel Bojer a écrit, lundi 17 décembre 2001, à 00:39 :
> Hello Debian runners!

Hi!

[...]
> -Then i tipped: dpkg-scanpackages debs override | gzip > debs/packages.gz

is Packages.gz better?

You can also download override files, from the "indices" directory
(aside "dists")

[...]
> Hope someone could think of something!
> Thanks in advance

HTH
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Re: [ltp] X22 issues

2001-12-17 Thread Michael Nordmeyer
On Saturday 15 December 2001 20:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Quoting Ross Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > 2. I would like to keep Win2K and duel boot to Linux. What is the
> > easiest
> > way to duel-boot a Linux/Win2K machine?
>
> Simple, if its like my A22m, there will be two FAT32 partitions. Just
> resize these (with Partition Magic, or something else), and install
> Linux. You can safetly install lilo to the MBR, and boot Win2k using
> an entry in lilo.conf
>
> > 3. IBM have not provided a rescue disk but have instead used a
> > rescue partition, which is the strangest idea I've ever heard. What
> > if I need to
> > rescue the machine because the disk crashed? As you can imagine,
> > this is a
> > large partition (~750M) - does anyone know if it can be burnt onto
> > a couple
> > of CDs easily? Has anyone asked for rescue CDs from IBM?

IBM ships the X2x models by default without any CD-like devices. That's 
probably the reason they use a recovery partition. Of course IBM should 
ship the recovery CD as well.

> Are you in Australasia by any chance? They did the same to me. I
> think it has to do with Microsoft's attitude to us (they think we're
> a bunch of pirates). Still a very stupid idea though.

I tried a recovery CD for a Thinkpad 600E a while ago on a different 
computer. It didn't work. It seems the CDs are locked to the specific 
Thinkpad model they were built for.

> As for saving the SERVICE partition, mount it under Linux. See if has
> the programs in the root directory neccessary for booting
> (command.com is the only one I can think of right now). If it is,
> then copy the files onto two CD's, or use a multi-volume tar archive.
>
> Cameron Kerr

Michael Nordmeyer



Re: Intel Wireless 2011 PCMCIA on Debian

2001-12-17 Thread Dave Swegen
On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 01:14:55PM +0800, Patrick Hsieh wrote:
> Hello list,
> 
> I am trying to put my intel wireless 2011 pc card on debian and make it
> work. Is there anyone who has been working on it? Any howto or
> instructions are highly appreciated.

You'll need to get the spectrum 24 drivers, which are available from
http://sourceforge.net/projects/spectrum24/ and patch the pcmcia
sources.

As I recall there are reasonable instructions in the package. However,
there was some issue with it so the drivers needed patching (this was
quite some months ago, so it's probably been fixed by now).

Mail me if you have any problems.

Cheers
Dave



thinkpad R 30

2001-12-17 Thread Michael Hothorn

Hi all, 

I would like to buy an IBM Thinkpad R 30. Has anyone tried installing
woody on this machine ??

bye
michael


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Re: X22 issues

2001-12-17 Thread Michael Nordmeyer
On Saturday 15 December 2001 23:07, Michael Thaler wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 15, 2001 at 06:43:17PM -, Ross Burton wrote:
> > partition, which is the strangest idea I've ever heard.  What if I
> > need to rescue the machine because the disk crashed?  As you can
> > imagine, this is a large partition (~750M) - does anyone know if it
> > can be burnt onto a couple of CDs easily? Has anyone asked for
> > rescue CDs from IBM?
>
> if it is a Fat32 partion mount it with Linux and copy it to a file
> cp /dev/hdaX filename where X is the partion should do. You can tar
> it, maybe it fits on a CD. The same you can just do with your Win
> Partition. You can just copy it back if win crashes and will not work
> anymore.

Give partimage  -- a PartitionMagic-like tool for unix 
-- a try. There are debian packages in woody IIRC. The recovery 
patition is probably hidden but this shouldn't be a problem for 
partimage.

>
> Greetings,
> Michael

Michael Nordmeyer



Re: Installing problems on X22

2001-12-17 Thread Michael Nordmeyer
On Sunday 16 December 2001 16:17, Ross Burton wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've just tried to install Debian onto my X22 laptop.  I booted the
> CD but the kernel hangs on "md driver...".  Does anyone know how to
> get around this?  I could install RH72 which LinuxCare say installs
> fine, but I'd rather stick with Debian.
>
> Thanks for any help,
> Ross

Hi Ross,

I've read on the list that it's possible to boot with a different 
debian CD. It seems there're different boot kernels on different debian 
CDs.

Alternatively you can try to use different boot disks. There're some 
unofficial boot disks floating around with reiserfs or ext3 support for 
example.

IIRC the md driver is for logical volumes or raid. May be the recovery 
partition caused the md driver to hang.

Regards,

Michael



Re: Installing problems on X22

2001-12-17 Thread Ross Burton
On Mon, 2001-12-17 at 09:41, Michael Nordmeyer wrote:
> On Sunday 16 December 2001 16:17, Ross Burton wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've just tried to install Debian onto my X22 laptop.  I booted the
> > CD but the kernel hangs on "md driver...".  Does anyone know how to
> > get around this?  I could install RH72 which LinuxCare say installs
> > fine, but I'd rather stick with Debian.

> I've read on the list that it's possible to boot with a different 
> debian CD. It seems there're different boot kernels on different debian 
> CDs.
> 
> Alternatively you can try to use different boot disks. There're some 
> unofficial boot disks floating around with reiserfs or ext3 support for 
> example.

I'll probably try and find XFS boot disks, as I would like to use XFS on
the laptop.  Thanks.

> IIRC the md driver is for logical volumes or raid. May be the recovery 
> partition caused the md driver to hang.

I copied it to my desktop and used Partition Magic to re-arrange the
disk, its not 50/50 FAT32/ext2.  Interesting...

Ross
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Re: Installing problems on X22

2001-12-17 Thread Heather
> On Sunday 16 December 2001 16:17, Ross Burton wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've just tried to install Debian onto my X22 laptop.  I booted the
> > CD but the kernel hangs on "md driver...".  Does anyone know how to
> > get around this?  I could install RH72 which LinuxCare say installs
> > fine, but I'd rather stick with Debian.
> >
> > Thanks for any help,
> > Ross
> 
> Hi Ross,
> 
> I've read on the list that it's possible to boot with a different 
> debian CD. It seems there're different boot kernels on different debian 
> CDs.
> 
> Alternatively you can try to use different boot disks. There're some 
> unofficial boot disks floating around with reiserfs or ext3 support for 
> example.
> 
> IIRC the md driver is for logical volumes or raid. May be the recovery 
> partition caused the md driver to hang.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Michael

You might try the LNX-BBC (http://www.lnx-bbc.org) ... it has two different
debian installers available.  You'd boot up into its rescue environment,
set up the partitioning you want, get things mounted up on your own.  It
has crude support for these fs' because it's intended as a rescue disk.
Its kernel supports a wide variety of raid devices, in case you need that too.

If you get yourself into X on the lnx-bbc, then once you've got your target
areas mounted up, you can invoke the installer from the menu.  Outside X you
either have to know what they're called or poke around a bit.  debootstrap
is one of them but I don't remember how clear the command syntax is.  Luckily
debootstrap's really a script, so you can just read it...

#include /* I'm a member of the project, I'm kinda pleased w/it */

* Heather Stern * star@ many places...



Re: alt-get update via ADSL from command line?

2001-12-17 Thread Heather
> On Sun, 2001-12-16 at 17:21, Doc wrote:
> > Gee, Linux has a way to make me feel real dumb ... 
> > 
> > I am stuck at the command line due to an X conflict.  I need to 
> > run apt-get update and apt-get upgrade for Debian Unstable to 
> > see if that resolves things on my OmniBook 4100. (Or should 
> > I grab a newer version of Linux instead?)
> > 
> > Can someone suggest what generic Linux utility included with 
> > 2.4.14 and/or Debian Unstable will cause my laptop to 
> > recognize the Verizon-Westell ADSL modem? 
> > 
> > (I am running through a 3Com 589c pcmcia nic, if that is 
> > relevant.)
> > 
> > This all worked fine when I had access to X and could run 
> > Mozilla -- it managed the interface and then I worked from 
> > the command line.
> > 
> > Thanks!  doc 
> > 
> Doc,
> 
> If I understand you, your ADSL provider makes you login through a Web
> interface. If that's the case, you might try the command-line web
> browsers "links" or "lynx." apt-get install should get you either one. I
> think "links" is a little more flexible.
> 
> Tony

links has the advantage of looking a little more like a normal layout, it 
makes some attempt towards tabling and frames.

I'm personally fond of lynx-ssl though, and I set up metamail to use zgv
for images in text mode.  It doesn't make lynx intermix graphics, but with
the options set right, I can select the graphic and see what it looks like,
which might be handy if they have a screen shot or something.

I dunno if links has any means to hook up with metamail.

Some of my friends are very pleased with w3m though.

All 3 of them *can* support SSL, but I don't remember if they're all 
available that way from the debian system.

* Heather Stern * star@ many places...



Re: [ltp] X22 issues

2001-12-17 Thread Heather
[my, what a long cc list.  Sigh]

> On Saturday 15 December 2001 20:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Quoting Ross Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > 2. I would like to keep Win2K and duel boot to Linux. What is the
> > > easiest way to duel-boot a Linux/Win2K machine?

depends on your definition of "easy":

1. just let me pick one at boot time
then all you need is a boot loader which lets you list more than
one selection.  lilo can do this, and then at a lilo prompt it can
mention what options it has been told.

2. ...uh, from a menu.
well, there are other boot loaders;  what makes them "not easy"
is that you have to go fetch them.  GAG is a nice graphical 
environment (free, it stands for Gestor de Arranque Gráfico,
http://www.rastersoft.com/gageng.htm).  You could use the 
commercial app System Commander.  I don't know if MS still offers
a useful way to configure a startup menu under their boot loader,
but if so, then you can use a stanza in it, and have loadlin (or
does linload work better on w2k?) load up linux via that.

3. I like MSwin a lot and I'm just experimenting with this Linux thingy
use whatever version of loadlin or linload works with your
revision of Windows(tm) -- and keep the correct copy of a
linux kernel available in Linux space.  crafting the command
line for it will feel a little weird, but once you have that
right, you can make Linux an icon on the desk or toss it in your
start menu.

> > Simple, if its like my A22m, there will be two FAT32 partitions. Just
> > resize these (with Partition Magic, or something else), and install
> > Linux. You can safetly install lilo to the MBR, and boot Win2k using
> > an entry in lilo.conf
> >
> > > 3. IBM have not provided a rescue disk but have instead used a
> > > rescue partition, which is the strangest idea I've ever heard. What
> > > if I need to
> > > rescue the machine because the disk crashed? As you can imagine,
> > > this is a
> > > large partition (~750M) - does anyone know if it can be burnt onto
> > > a couple
> > > of CDs easily? Has anyone asked for rescue CDs from IBM?
> 
> IBM ships the X2x models by default without any CD-like devices. That's 
> probably the reason they use a recovery partition. Of course IBM should 
> ship the recovery CD as well.
> 
> > Are you in Australasia by any chance? They did the same to me. I
> > think it has to do with Microsoft's attitude to us (they think we're
> > a bunch of pirates). Still a very stupid idea though.
> 
> I tried a recovery CD for a Thinkpad 600E a while ago on a different 
> computer. It didn't work. It seems the CDs are locked to the specific 
> Thinkpad model they were built for.

It's true - I've seen a lot of thinkpads and they are mostly quite different
under the hood.
 
> > As for saving the SERVICE partition, mount it under Linux. See if has
> > the programs in the root directory neccessary for booting
> > (command.com is the only one I can think of right now). If it is,
> > then copy the files onto two CD's, or use a multi-volume tar archive.

Oh dear.  Cameron, it takes a few more pieces than command.com to make a 
DOS partition bootable.  Having him use partimage to "suck the image off
the disk" -- that'd probably work.  But just taking the non-hidden files?
Nope, it's way too easy to miss something that you only know is importnat
when it's too late because it's long gone.

tar isn't good at preserving filesystem-specific permissions.  In FAT that'd
be hidden,system,archive - in ext2 that'd be "immutable" "append-only" and
other such things.  The fs guys call these things attributes... and in that
other half of his dual boot, if he ever needs SERVICE, he's likely to be 
working with software that actually cares about those attributes.  Sorry.

Ross, partimage is a utility for helping folks clone harddisks.  I hope you
find it useful.


* Heather Stern * star@ many places...



Re: [ltp] X22 issues

2001-12-17 Thread Michael Nordmeyer
On Monday 17 December 2001 19:16, Heather wrote:
> [my, what a long cc list.  Sigh]
>
> > On Saturday 15 December 2001 20:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
> > > Quoting Ross Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > > 2. I would like to keep Win2K and duel boot to Linux. What is
> > > > the easiest way to duel-boot a Linux/Win2K machine?
>

[...]

> >
> > IBM ships the X2x models by default without any CD-like devices.
> > That's probably the reason they use a recovery partition. Of course
> > IBM should ship the recovery CD as well.
> >
> > > Are you in Australasia by any chance? They did the same to me. I
> > > think it has to do with Microsoft's attitude to us (they think
> > > we're a bunch of pirates). Still a very stupid idea though.
> >
> > I tried a recovery CD for a Thinkpad 600E a while ago on a
> > different computer. It didn't work. It seems the CDs are locked to
> > the specific Thinkpad model they were built for.
>
> It's true - I've seen a lot of thinkpads and they are mostly quite
> different under the hood.

Sure the hardware is different. What tried to say is that the recovery 
CD didn't even start because some kind of firmware detection executed 
from CD stated that this CD isn't suitable for this thinkpad.

If CHS mappings would be identically for both of the harddisks then the 
disk image could be applied to the harddisk. Afterwards Windows would 
be able to detect hardware changes and (hopefully) install the proper 
drivers.

But the easiest way is probably just to ask IBM if they can supply a 
recovery CD. I got my X20 hdd replaced because of a hardware failure. 
The new hdd didn't come with a recovery partition. So I asked for a 
replacement CD and promptly got one.

[...]

>
>
> * Heather Stern * star@ many places...

Regards,

Michael



Old Laptop as printserver

2001-12-17 Thread Andreas Tscharner
Hello World,

I have an old DX-4 (80486 - 100MHz) laptop. I want to use it as printserver. 
The problem is: It has no CD-drive.

So my idea was to use my NE2000 compatible network card on the laptop and 
export (NFS) my CD drive on my desktop computer. Therefore it should be 
possible to install via NFS.

My questions:
Do the standard boot disks from potato (2.2rc0) have the pcmcia modules (NE 
2000) and NFS modules or do I have to make a boot floppy myself?

Is there anywhere on the net an installation guide to set up a printserver 
(used from Linux and from Windows side)?

Thank you for your answers.

Best regards
Andreas
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bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." -- Rich Cook 


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Installing Debian on Gateway Solo

2001-12-17 Thread Bryan Daniels
I have an old(er) Gateway Solo, with a broken CD-ROM.
I have been trying to install Debian Linux 2.2 Rev_4
off of floppy disks. I am very close, but not quite
there. I am attemping to install 'idepci_2.2.19'. I
have copied the images for rescue.bin and root.bin on
to two floppies and know that they work by testing on
another unit.

I can boot and rescue.bin works. I can't, however, get
root.bin to load as the ramdisk. I think that my
problem is that my 'floppy-drive' is actually an
'ide-drive' instead. It is recognized by the
rescue.bin as (LS-120 SLIM 05 UDH Floppy, ATAPI Floppy
drive) and is mapped to hdd with partitions
hdd1..hdd4. I am trying to find the right parmaters to
give at the 'root: prompt'. I have read the 'HOWTO
BootPrompt' but don't have the paramaters down yet. I
have tried 'linux root=/dev/hdd', 'linux
floppy=/dev/hdd', and many more. So far no good. 

Any ideas would be welcome.

Thanks,

Bryan Daniels

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Re: Old Laptop as printserver

2001-12-17 Thread Hubert Chan
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> "Andreas" == Andreas Tscharner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

[...]

Andreas> My questions: Do the standard boot disks from potato (2.2rc0)
Andreas> have the pcmcia modules (NE 2000) and NFS modules or do I have
Andreas> to make a boot floppy myself?

It has PCMCIA modules.  My network card claims to be an NE2000
compatible (It's a Linksys), and it was recognized properly, so NE2000
should be no problem.  Whether or not it will be able to recognize
_your_ card is a different story, but I don't think there should be any
problems.

I would assume that it has whatever NFS modules, since IIRC NFS is one
of the installation options.  But I always just install over http, so I
don't know about this one.

Andreas> Is there anywhere on the net an installation guide to set up a
Andreas> printserver (used from Linux and from Windows side)?

For Windows, you'd have to look into samba.  There is a samba HOWTO that
you can look at.  You'll also have to pick which printer daemon to use
- -- there's lpr, lprng, and CUPS that I know of.  I think that all of
them can be used with samba.  For getting them to work with Linux
clients, probably the hardest part is just configuring the clients.

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