Re: dhcp with pcmcia

[Markus Lang]

On 21 Mar 2001 15:33:57 +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
> After upgrading my perfectly working laptop (perfectly working = working
> with DHCP in the institute and working with fixed IP at home) I had very
> big problems.  The lesser problem was that I had to type pump manually
> now in the institute (DHCP).  The big problem was, that my network was
> unavailable at all at home.  After several hours I found out that I have
> to do
> ifup lo eth0
> manually (and do this explicitely -  ifup -a didn't work either).  If
> I did a /etc/init.d/networking start nothing happened, i.e. ifconfig
> showed no output.  This is really strange and I havn't any explanation
> for this behaviour.  Seems I have to do some research.
> 


I had the same experience with net-tools after the 1.57 package. It
seems that the upgrade did not add the lines that start the interfaces
automatically to /etc/network/interfaces.

So, after some research I added the line 
auto lo eth0
before the normal iface statements. And all worked fine afterwards..

Markus

ifup/ifdown

[tom]

when I Resume from Suspend/Hibernate or even power up, my ethernet
is down.

I have been in the routine of issuing:
ifdown eth0 && sleep 2 && ifup eth0
and it works.

According to IFCONFIG it's "UP", but no pings.

my interfaces file includes the line
'auto eth0'
which I thought was supposed to remedy this.

It's kind of a new problem.  It wasn't doing this before, but I
don't know what changed exactly in between.  Probably a pile of
"apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" happened in there someplace. 
But I wouldn't expect that to change anything like this.

Suggestions on what to look at next?  I was going to check out my
"route -n" but that should set by the interfaces file and I
haven't done anything there in weeks.

RE: ifup/ifdown

[Aurelien HAULT]

I had the same problem and to repair it (after many test), I upgrade my
kernel to the 2.4.0 and the problem never appair again.

-Message d'origine-
De : tallison [mailto:tallison]De la part de tom
Envoye : vendredi 23 mars 2001 12:45
A : debian-laptop@lists.debian.org
Objet : ifup/ifdown


when I Resume from Suspend/Hibernate or even power up, my ethernet
is down.

I have been in the routine of issuing:
ifdown eth0 && sleep 2 && ifup eth0
and it works.

According to IFCONFIG it's "UP", but no pings.

my interfaces file includes the line
'auto eth0'
which I thought was supposed to remedy this.

It's kind of a new problem.  It wasn't doing this before, but I
don't know what changed exactly in between.  Probably a pile of
"apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" happened in there someplace.
But I wouldn't expect that to change anything like this.

Suggestions on what to look at next?  I was going to check out my
"route -n" but that should set by the interfaces file and I
haven't done anything there in weeks.


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Re: low memory debian

[Alexander Clouter]

On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, Rod Young wrote:
>
> Any way I can build a low memory install disk?
>
by typing (as root)

dd if=/mnt/cdrom/path/to/low/mem/disk/on/cd of=/dev/fd0 bs=1k conv=sync;
sync

this will make you one low memory boot disk :)

Alex

APM under 2.4

[Andreas Tille]

Hello,

I have observed changes in the behaviour of APM on my E-Series
Lifebook afgter upgrading to Testing + Kernel 2.4.  Formerly the
Notebook did a suspend after closing the Display (or pressing the
little sensor wich detects closing).  This is not the case anymore.

Moreover a halt doesn't switch of the box (this is also true for all
my desktop PCs I used with kernel 2.4) regardingless whether I use
CONFIG_APM_REAL_MODE_POWER_OFF or not.  This really bothers me that
code which worked since several 2.0./2.2 kernels doesn't work now :-(.

Kind regards

Andreas.

Re: APM under 2.4

[Oleksandr Moskalenko]

* Andreas Tille ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I have observed changes in the behaviour of APM on my E-Series
> Lifebook afgter upgrading to Testing + Kernel 2.4.  Formerly the
> Notebook did a suspend after closing the Display (or pressing the
> little sensor wich detects closing).  This is not the case anymore.
> 
> Moreover a halt doesn't switch of the box (this is also true for all
> my desktop PCs I used with kernel 2.4) regardingless whether I use
> CONFIG_APM_REAL_MODE_POWER_OFF or not.  This really bothers me that
> code which worked since several 2.0./2.2 kernels doesn't work now :-(.
> 
> Kind regards
> 
> Andreas.

   Hi Andreas,

 I had this problem on my notebook, too. It turned out that I set 
CONFIG_APM_REAL_MODE_POWER_OFF, but
forgot to set CONFIG_APM=y (it was "m"), so I either had to do "insmod
apm" or recompile the kernel. I apologise if you already looked into
this possibility, but you didn't provide more info.

 Regards,

Alex

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PCMCIA Ethernet Recommendation

[Donnie Jones]

Hey all,

As you've probably had on here many times already by
other users, I am asking for some recommendations for
an inexpensive reliable pcmcia ethernet card for
debian.  Any information would be great.

Thanks in advance.

Donnie

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Re: PCMCIA Ethernet Recommendation

[Jonathan Crockett]

I like the Netgear FA-410.  I costs about $50 and is available at any and every
Best Buy in the world .  The driver it uses is the ne2k
but it works well and does not cost a fortune.

BTW  I have used this card for over 18 months without problems...

jc

On Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 08:03:59AM -0800, Donnie Jones wrote:
> Hey all,
> 
> As you've probably had on here many times already by
> other users, I am asking for some recommendations for
> an inexpensive reliable pcmcia ethernet card for
> debian.  Any information would be great.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Donnie
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Today's Challange

[JParker]

G'Day !

I need to install Debian on several computers.  However the twist is that the hardware on these computers is such that the only way to access the drives is by pulling the drive and making it the slave drive on a working Linux desktop computer.  (ie no floppies, no CD, no NIC, no Modem on computers being upgraded.  They are currently NT).

I have read the docs included on the Debian CD and they hint it is possible but do not offer specifics.

Any suggestions ?

cheers,
Jim Parker

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RE: PCMCIA Ethernet Recommendation

[Lewis, James M.]

> -Original Message-
> From: Donnie Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 11:04 AM
> To: debian-laptop
> Subject: PCMCIA Ethernet Recommendation
> 
> 
> Hey all,
> 
> As you've probably had on here many times already by
> other users, I am asking for some recommendations for
> an inexpensive reliable pcmcia ethernet card for
> debian.  Any information would be great.
> 
I've been using a netgear fa410tx with absolute no
problems (once I figured out pcmcia and laptops in
general).  It's cheap and appears to be reliable.
It came with a 99 year guarantee (or was it life?)
It is not a cardbus card so it will go into any
laptop.  It might be a bit slow on 100Mbit networks
because of being only a 16bit card.  Works fine for
me.  YMMV
Check www.pricewatch.com for deals...  I got mine
at BestBuy for ~$50 with a rebate (forgot how much).

jim

> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Donnie
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Re: Today's Challange

[JParker]

G'Day !

Yes that is how I was planning on doing 2 thru N, I guess I was not clear on the question.

My question was which files do I copy from destktop to /dev/hdb and how do I make it bootable.  I can not figure out how to run the install program dbootstrap to configure the base system.

Do I need to make a boot floppy, to boot the desktop and then install from CD to /dev/hdb ?  I would rather not, the CD is rather exotic and a pain to setup.

cheers,
Jim Parker

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just make one good install then 
dd if=/dev/hd(inser slave with good install here) of=(temporary file)
then swap for next disk reboot and
dd if=(temporary file) of=/dev/hd(inser slave with good install here)
voila a perfect copy of disk 1 on disk 2 
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>G'Day !
>
>Possibly ... I have only checked a few of them.  I really only need to do 
>the first one, after that I just use an equivalent to "Ghost" to duplicate 
>the rest.
>
>cheers,
>Jim Parker
>
>Sailboat racing is not a matter of life and death   It is far more 
>important than that !!!
>
>
>
>
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>>I need to install Debian on several computers.  However the twist is that 
>
>>the hardware on these computers is such that the only way to access the 
>>drives is by pulling the drive and making it the slave drive on a working 
>
>>Linux desktop computer.  (ie no floppies, no CD, no NIC, no Modem on 
>>computers being upgraded.  They are currently NT).
>>
>>I have read the docs included on the Debian CD and they hint it is 
>>possible but do not offer specifics.
>>
>>Any suggestions ?
>>
>>cheers,
>>Jim Parker
>>
>>Sailboat racing is not a matter of life and death   It is far more 
>>important than that !!!
>
>
>

Re: Today's Challange

[Peter Cordes]

On Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 08:46:31AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> G'Day !
> 
> I need to install Debian on several computers.  However the twist is that 
> the hardware on these computers is such that the only way to access the 
> drives is by pulling the drive and making it the slave drive on a working 
> Linux desktop computer.  (ie no floppies, no CD, no NIC, no Modem on 
> computers being upgraded.  They are currently NT).
> 
> I have read the docs included on the Debian CD and they hint it is 
> possible but do not offer specifics.
> 
> Any suggestions ?

 Unless you have debian systems with known-good configurations, you will not
be happy if you need to rearrange your drives every time you want to install
a package you forgot you wanted.  Get some NICs, or at least set up ppp over
null modem (this will be ok for fine tuning, but pretty slow for major
installs/updates, unless you leave it overnight).

 As for the mechanics of it, put the drive in the working linux box, then
partition it, mkfs/mkswap it, mount it on /target, mount other partitions in
the appropriate spots under /target, untar base-2.2.tgz in /target,
configure lilo, and, umm, do some other stuff that I probably forgot here,
like put a kernel+System.map in /target/boot.

 For convenience, you might as well just leave the drive jumpered as slave,
if your BIOS can boot it that way.  Otherwise, you might have problems with
lilo if it was set up to boot from hdb, but the drive that used to be hdb
was now hda.

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update:pcmcia ethernet recommendation

[Donnie Jones]

I found this card on www.shopper.com

LINKSYS ETHERFAST 10/100
PCCARD NETWORK CARD
Price Per Unit: $39.99
Mnfr. Part #:PCMPC100

www.egghead.com/category/inv/00035336/03279569.htm
That's the link for the card.

Please let me know if anyone has heard of problems
with this pcmcia card, or success, thanks again to
all...


-Donnie

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Re: low memory debian

[Rod Young]

Is there still one on the 2.2 cd? I thought I read somewhere that debian 
no longer supported that.
I will check the disk when I go home.

>> Original Message <<

On 03/23/2001, 8:19:50 AM, Alexander Clouter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote regarding Re: low memory debian:


> On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, Rod Young wrote:
> >
> > Any way I can build a low memory install disk?
> >
> by typing (as root)

> dd if=/mnt/cdrom/path/to/low/mem/disk/on/cd of=/dev/fd0 bs=1k conv=sync;
> sync

> this will make you one low memory boot disk :)

> Alex

Re: X on Gateway solo5300

[Jing Shi]

I tried to install Debian yesterday.  The biggest problem came from X setup.  At
first I couldn't get it work because there is no XF86_SVGA server--only VGA16.
Then I found one online(from Bill Richardson's site) and installed it.  It
worked but gave very bad color resolution and font size--I know my monitor is
only 800x600, but even though it should not looks such badly.  The worst thing
is I couldn't use X-window doing login.  The mechine dose not recoganize the
root password I typed in.  I don't know why.
Anyone has success in X setup?  My video card is Savage IX w/MV and monitor
resolution is 800x600.


CaT wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 01:45:17AM -0500, Jing Shi wrote:
> > Hello,  I just bought a used Gateway Solo5300 laptop and want to install
> > Debain for my work.  However, this laptop comes with minimum
> > documentation.  What I know is it's PIII600, 96mb RAM and 6GB HD.  The
> > screen is 12" and 800x600.  Anyone has similar setup and with successful
> > Debian installation?  Another question is the floppy and CD-ROM share
>
> I have a Gateway 5300 but my specs are way different. can you give
> provide us with a full list of specs?
>
> > one bay and are hot swappable.  How does Debian support it?
>
> The support needs to be in the kernel. you'll only be able to hotswap
> (from memory) if you boot with the cdrom in the drive first. there needs
> to be a way to notify the kernel's ide drivers that they should rescan
> the ide bus and configure for a new err... config. :)
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Re: update:pcmcia ethernet recommendation

[Francois Gouget]

On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Donnie Jones wrote:

> I found this card on www.shopper.com
> 
> LINKSYS ETHERFAST 10/100
> PCCARD NETWORK CARD
> Price Per Unit: $39.99
> Mnfr. Part #:PCMPC100
> 
> www.egghead.com/category/inv/00035336/03279569.htm
> That's the link for the card.
> 
> Please let me know if anyone has heard of problems
> with this pcmcia card, or success, thanks again to
> all...

   I had such a card and I had three beefs with it:
 * on some 10Mbps half-duplex networks performance was *very* bad. A
typical example is the network on which I was unable to get more than a
200kb/s (yes, 200 kilobits/second), while everyone else was routinely
able to achieve >8Mb/s. That was from another machine on the LAN and
very surprisingly it was faster to download things from the internet (so
presumably talking to some router on the LAN). I had no problem on my
home network though!
 * I bought it because it supports 100Mb/s in full-duplex and my home
network supports it through and through. But it's a 16bit card so i was
never able to get past 10-12Mb/s. That's pretty frustrating.
 * I broke the dongle. It's the usual story: the cable got stuck
somewhere, the cord pulled hard on the dongle, and now, although nothing
looks broken, the card does not work anymore (unless I push hard
downward on the dongle while I try to use the laptop with the other
hand). Since then I read that this model has a reputation of having a
rather fragile dongle.

   I have also used 3c589 cards and I never had any performance problem
with them (including on the network mentioned above). One of them has a
dongle that has ben beaten up pretty badly multiple times and is all out
of shape. But it still works. Not the bad side: if I unplug the RJ-45 it
thinks it switches to BNC mode and I have to eject/reinsert it to get my
network connection back. But that may be a driver bug (2.4.0test9).

   Actually I'm still looking for a replacement for my PCMPC100.
Currenly I'm looking for a _32bits_ 10/100Mb/s card. Maybe one of the
net 3coms with an XJack. But these are really much more expensive :-/

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updated:pcmcia ethernet recommendation(again) :)

[Donnie Jones]

I've found another pcmcia ethernet card and I would
like to ask if anyone has had any problems, success,
or whatnot.

Sorry to keep bothering the list with a dull topic,
but I have already bought one pcmcia ethernet card,
the IBM etherjet, and I had later found out the
drivers for it are crap.

Here it is:

D-Link DFE-680TX 10/100Mbps PCMCIA 32bit CardBus
www.ecost.com/ecost/shop/detail.asp?DPNo=939098


Thanks again for all the help

Donnie

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Re: X on Gateway solo5300

[CaT]

On Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 04:17:36PM -0500, Jing Shi wrote:
> I tried to install Debian yesterday.  The biggest problem came from X setup.  
> At
> first I couldn't get it work because there is no XF86_SVGA server--only VGA16.

apt-get install xserver will get you a list I believe

> Anyone has success in X setup?  My video card is Savage IX w/MV and monitor
> resolution is 800x600.

http://www.probo.com/timr/savagemx.html should be useful.

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Re: update:pcmcia ethernet recommendation

[Heather]

> I found this card on www.shopper.com
> 
> LINKSYS ETHERFAST 10/100
> PCCARD NETWORK CARD
> Price Per Unit: $39.99
> Mnfr. Part #:PCMPC100
> 
> www.egghead.com/category/inv/00035336/03279569.htm
> That's the link for the card.
> 
> Please let me know if anyone has heard of problems
> with this pcmcia card, or success, thanks again to
> all...

I believe I've encountered this one and it's a pleasantly
successful card.


* Heather Stern * star@ many places...

Re: Today's Challange

[Heather]

> G'Day !
> 
> Yes that is how I was planning on doing 2 thru N, I guess I was not clear 
> on the question.
> 
> My question was which files do I copy from destktop to /dev/hdb and how do 
> I make it bootable.  I can not figure out how to run the install program 
> dbootstrap to configure the base system.

I posted a fairly long slice of mail awhile back about installing debian
without using the debian installer. 

The approcimate steps are - 
* get access to the system such that you can make partitions
* make a swap and / at least
* drop "Base" into it, using whetever method works
* drop a kernel kit into it, since Base doesn't come with one
* clear /sbin/setup.sh so it doesn't stop coming in
* fix /etc/fstab to be correct
* fix /etc/lilo.conf to be correct & run /sbin/lilo;
  alternatively setup a dif't boot method (floppy, or loadlin)
* possibly also doctor network values so it will see network
  (/etc/network/interfaces for regular boxen or builtin cards,
   drop in card services, have pcmcia modules for pccards,
   and don't forget punp/dhclient or to set fixed values in
   /etc/pcmcia/network.opts)
* reboot 

...though I might have gone into more detail.  Much easier if you have
bootability from a floppy, there are lots of rescue floppies, incl. just
installing debian via floppy.

> Do I need to make a boot floppy, to boot the desktop and then install from 
> CD to /dev/hdb ?  I would rather not, the CD is rather exotic and a pain 
> to setup.

Possible to install "just like CD" from about 12 to 15 floppies.

> cheers,
> Jim Parker

Sail onward merrily!

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Re: updated:pcmcia ethernet recommendation(again) :)

[Heather]

> I've found another pcmcia ethernet card and I would
> like to ask if anyone has had any problems, success,
> or whatnot.
> 
> Sorry to keep bothering the list with a dull topic,
> but I have already bought one pcmcia ethernet card,
> the IBM etherjet, and I had later found out the
> drivers for it are crap.
> 
> Here it is:
> 
> D-Link DFE-680TX 10/100Mbps PCMCIA 32bit CardBus
> www.ecost.com/ecost/shop/detail.asp?DPNo=939098

I use a DFE-650 (which is not the same as a 680, I know, but...)

I have used it absolutely everywhere that I've gone for years 
with no hiccups, including places where others were having trouble.

Pls. note I keep the dongle out of the card and in my purse when not in
use.  So I dunno if the dongle is fragile or not, never having given it
a chance to be stressed nastily.


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Re: Today's Challange

[Stephen Hardman]

>   * fix /etc/lilo.conf to be correct & run /sbin/lilo;
> alternatively setup a dif't boot method (floppy, or loadlin)

Don't forget to set the bootdev to to the HD you're setting up.

Re: updated:pcmcia ethernet recommendation(again) :)

[pplaw]

On Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 04:32:50PM -0800, Donnie Jones wrote:
> I've found another pcmcia ethernet card and I would
> like to ask if anyone has had any problems, success,
> or whatnot.
> 
> Sorry to keep bothering the list with a dull topic,
> but I have already bought one pcmcia ethernet card,
> the IBM etherjet, and I had later found out the
> drivers for it are crap.
> 
> Here it is:
> 
> D-Link DFE-680TX 10/100Mbps PCMCIA 32bit CardBus
> www.ecost.com/ecost/shop/detail.asp?DPNo=939098
> 
> 
> Thanks again for all the help
> 
> Donnie

hi,

...donno about the dlink.  my only experience was going
down to the local comp usa and getting a generic 10mbps
card for ~$30, which worked "outta" the box, in 3
different laptops (from clones to the outlandish sony 
picturebook), and on kernels 2.0.36 to 2.4.0!  

the box just says, "pcmcia network pc card for
notebooks. ...complies to ieee 802.3 10base-t ethernet
and pcmcia release 2.1...  system requirements:
ms-dos/win[dont].

oh, yeah, ...about the dongle...seems to be
sturdy enough but i pamper my tools (computers, cars,
etc.) so that part of it hasn't been put through
anything too severe.


hth.

bentley taylor.

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PCMCIA Ethernet Recommendation

[Jim Nutt]

Donnie Jones writes:
 > As you've probably had on here many times already by
 > other users, I am asking for some recommendations for
 > an inexpensive reliable pcmcia ethernet card for
 > debian.  Any information would be great.

I picked up a newmedia 10/100 card for $60 at Fry's here in San Jose,
it's NE2000 compatible and the best part is, no dongle! It's got a
small extension on the end of the card that the cable plugs into. I
had to add a file to /etc/pcmcia containing the following as
"newmedia.conf", once that was done it was recognized and works
great. And did I mention, there's no dongle?

 cut here "newmedia.conf"
card "iPort"
  manfid 0x0274, 0x1103
  bind "pcnet_cs"
 cut here

jim

Re: Today's Challange

[Heather]

> > * fix /etc/lilo.conf to be correct & run /sbin/lilo;
> >   alternatively setup a dif't boot method (floppy, or loadlin)
> 
> Don't forget to set the bootdev to to the HD you're setting up.

Yes -- this is contained in "correct" and in the original post, I was 
consierably more verbose.

If you intend to boot from the HD the boot dev is the device with NO NUMBER
if you want LILO to be in the master boor record.  You can point it to a
partition explicitly and in fact, if you're only using LILO's second stage,
I think you want to.  (eg using GAG or some other GUI bootloader).  NT people
get special problems, you need a copy of lilo put in a file which you cut to
size ahead of time.  (Tho I deal so little with NT that that had been someone
else's to say, not mine, the first time around.)

And if you want to boot from floppy or not at all -- perhaps as a security
measure? -- then make sure a floppy is in, and use boot=/dev/fd0


* Heather Stern * star@ many places...

Re: Today's Challange

[Peter Cordes]

On Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 07:22:27PM -0800, Heather wrote:
> And if you want to boot from floppy or not at all -- perhaps as a security
> measure? -- then make sure a floppy is in, and use boot=/dev/fd0

 You can put this in lilo.conf to boot a floppy from lilo:
other=/dev/fd0
 label=floppy
 unsafe
 
 This lets you boot off the HD, so you can get into linux fast without
having the BIOS grind your FD.  If you want to boot off a floppy, you can do
so without going into the BIOS setup.  (The "unsafe" option makes it
possible to run /sbin/lilo without a floppy in the drive.)

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Re: updated:pcmcia ethernet recommendation(again) :)

[Francois Gouget]

On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Heather wrote:
[...]
> Pls. note I keep the dongle out of the card and in my purse when not in
> use.  So I dunno if the dongle is fragile or not, never having given it
> a chance to be stressed nastily.

   The problem is not when you transport the laptop.
   The problem is when you move the laptop while it's on and connected
to the network and maybe even downloading stuff. For example from the
coffee table to your lap. That's when there's danger.

   I guess as long as you only use your laptop on a desk one would have
no problem.


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ifup/ifdown

[tom]

when I Resume from Suspend/Hibernate or even power up, my ethernet
is down.

I have been in the routine of issuing:
ifdown eth0 && sleep 2 && ifup eth0
and it works.

According to IFCONFIG it's "UP", but no pings.

my interfaces file includes the line
'auto eth0'
which I thought was supposed to remedy this.

It's kind of a new problem.  It wasn't doing this before, but I
don't know what changed exactly in between.  Probably a pile of
"apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" happened in there someplace. 
But I wouldn't expect that to change anything like this.

Suggestions on what to look at next?  I was going to check out my
"route -n" but that should set by the interfaces file and I
haven't done anything there in weeks.


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RE: ifup/ifdown

[Aurelien HAULT]

I had the same problem and to repair it (after many test), I upgrade my
kernel to the 2.4.0 and the problem never appair again.

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when I Resume from Suspend/Hibernate or even power up, my ethernet
is down.

I have been in the routine of issuing:
ifdown eth0 && sleep 2 && ifup eth0
and it works.

According to IFCONFIG it's "UP", but no pings.

my interfaces file includes the line
'auto eth0'
which I thought was supposed to remedy this.

It's kind of a new problem.  It wasn't doing this before, but I
don't know what changed exactly in between.  Probably a pile of
"apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" happened in there someplace.
But I wouldn't expect that to change anything like this.

Suggestions on what to look at next?  I was going to check out my
"route -n" but that should set by the interfaces file and I
haven't done anything there in weeks.


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Re: low memory debian

[Alexander Clouter]

On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, Rod Young wrote:
>
> Any way I can build a low memory install disk?
>
by typing (as root)

dd if=/mnt/cdrom/path/to/low/mem/disk/on/cd of=/dev/fd0 bs=1k conv=sync;
sync

this will make you one low memory boot disk :)

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APM under 2.4

[Andreas Tille]

Hello,

I have observed changes in the behaviour of APM on my E-Series
Lifebook afgter upgrading to Testing + Kernel 2.4.  Formerly the
Notebook did a suspend after closing the Display (or pressing the
little sensor wich detects closing).  This is not the case anymore.

Moreover a halt doesn't switch of the box (this is also true for all
my desktop PCs I used with kernel 2.4) regardingless whether I use
CONFIG_APM_REAL_MODE_POWER_OFF or not.  This really bothers me that
code which worked since several 2.0./2.2 kernels doesn't work now :-(.

Kind regards

Andreas.


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Re: APM under 2.4

[Oleksandr Moskalenko]

* Andreas Tille ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I have observed changes in the behaviour of APM on my E-Series
> Lifebook afgter upgrading to Testing + Kernel 2.4.  Formerly the
> Notebook did a suspend after closing the Display (or pressing the
> little sensor wich detects closing).  This is not the case anymore.
> 
> Moreover a halt doesn't switch of the box (this is also true for all
> my desktop PCs I used with kernel 2.4) regardingless whether I use
> CONFIG_APM_REAL_MODE_POWER_OFF or not.  This really bothers me that
> code which worked since several 2.0./2.2 kernels doesn't work now :-(.
> 
> Kind regards
> 
> Andreas.

   Hi Andreas,

 I had this problem on my notebook, too. It turned out that I set 
CONFIG_APM_REAL_MODE_POWER_OFF, but
forgot to set CONFIG_APM=y (it was "m"), so I either had to do "insmod
apm" or recompile the kernel. I apologise if you already looked into
this possibility, but you didn't provide more info.

 Regards,

Alex

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PCMCIA Ethernet Recommendation

[Donnie Jones]

Hey all,

As you've probably had on here many times already by
other users, I am asking for some recommendations for
an inexpensive reliable pcmcia ethernet card for
debian.  Any information would be great.

Thanks in advance.

Donnie

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Re: PCMCIA Ethernet Recommendation

[Jonathan Crockett]

I like the Netgear FA-410.  I costs about $50 and is available at any and every
Best Buy in the world .  The driver it uses is the ne2k
but it works well and does not cost a fortune.

BTW  I have used this card for over 18 months without problems...

jc

On Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 08:03:59AM -0800, Donnie Jones wrote:
> Hey all,
> 
> As you've probably had on here many times already by
> other users, I am asking for some recommendations for
> an inexpensive reliable pcmcia ethernet card for
> debian.  Any information would be great.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Donnie
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Today's Challange

[JParker]

G'Day !

I need to install Debian on several computers.  However the twist is that the hardware on these computers is such that the only way to access the drives is by pulling the drive and making it the slave drive on a working Linux desktop computer.  (ie no floppies, no CD, no NIC, no Modem on computers being upgraded.  They are currently NT).

I have read the docs included on the Debian CD and they hint it is possible but do not offer specifics.

Any suggestions ?

cheers,
Jim Parker

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RE: PCMCIA Ethernet Recommendation

[Lewis, James M.]

> -Original Message-
> From: Donnie Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 11:04 AM
> To: debian-laptop
> Subject: PCMCIA Ethernet Recommendation
> 
> 
> Hey all,
> 
> As you've probably had on here many times already by
> other users, I am asking for some recommendations for
> an inexpensive reliable pcmcia ethernet card for
> debian.  Any information would be great.
> 
I've been using a netgear fa410tx with absolute no
problems (once I figured out pcmcia and laptops in
general).  It's cheap and appears to be reliable.
It came with a 99 year guarantee (or was it life?)
It is not a cardbus card so it will go into any
laptop.  It might be a bit slow on 100Mbit networks
because of being only a 16bit card.  Works fine for
me.  YMMV
Check www.pricewatch.com for deals...  I got mine
at BestBuy for ~$50 with a rebate (forgot how much).

jim

> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Donnie
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Re: Today's Challange

[JParker]

G'Day !

Yes that is how I was planning on doing 2 thru N, I guess I was not clear on the question.

My question was which files do I copy from destktop to /dev/hdb and how do I make it bootable.  I can not figure out how to run the install program dbootstrap to configure the base system.

Do I need to make a boot floppy, to boot the desktop and then install from CD to /dev/hdb ?  I would rather not, the CD is rather exotic and a pain to setup.

cheers,
Jim Parker

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just make one good install then 
dd if=/dev/hd(inser slave with good install here) of=(temporary file)
then swap for next disk reboot and
dd if=(temporary file) of=/dev/hd(inser slave with good install here)
voila a perfect copy of disk 1 on disk 2 
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>G'Day !
>
>Possibly ... I have only checked a few of them.  I really only need to do 
>the first one, after that I just use an equivalent to "Ghost" to duplicate 
>the rest.
>
>cheers,
>Jim Parker
>
>Sailboat racing is not a matter of life and death   It is far more 
>important than that !!!
>
>
>
>
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>>I need to install Debian on several computers.  However the twist is that 
>
>>the hardware on these computers is such that the only way to access the 
>>drives is by pulling the drive and making it the slave drive on a working 
>
>>Linux desktop computer.  (ie no floppies, no CD, no NIC, no Modem on 
>>computers being upgraded.  They are currently NT).
>>
>>I have read the docs included on the Debian CD and they hint it is 
>>possible but do not offer specifics.
>>
>>Any suggestions ?
>>
>>cheers,
>>Jim Parker
>>
>>Sailboat racing is not a matter of life and death   It is far more 
>>important than that !!!
>
>
>

Re: Today's Challange

[Peter Cordes]

On Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 08:46:31AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> G'Day !
> 
> I need to install Debian on several computers.  However the twist is that 
> the hardware on these computers is such that the only way to access the 
> drives is by pulling the drive and making it the slave drive on a working 
> Linux desktop computer.  (ie no floppies, no CD, no NIC, no Modem on 
> computers being upgraded.  They are currently NT).
> 
> I have read the docs included on the Debian CD and they hint it is 
> possible but do not offer specifics.
> 
> Any suggestions ?

 Unless you have debian systems with known-good configurations, you will not
be happy if you need to rearrange your drives every time you want to install
a package you forgot you wanted.  Get some NICs, or at least set up ppp over
null modem (this will be ok for fine tuning, but pretty slow for major
installs/updates, unless you leave it overnight).

 As for the mechanics of it, put the drive in the working linux box, then
partition it, mkfs/mkswap it, mount it on /target, mount other partitions in
the appropriate spots under /target, untar base-2.2.tgz in /target,
configure lilo, and, umm, do some other stuff that I probably forgot here,
like put a kernel+System.map in /target/boot.

 For convenience, you might as well just leave the drive jumpered as slave,
if your BIOS can boot it that way.  Otherwise, you might have problems with
lilo if it was set up to boot from hdb, but the drive that used to be hdb
was now hda.

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update:pcmcia ethernet recommendation

[Donnie Jones]

I found this card on www.shopper.com

LINKSYS ETHERFAST 10/100
PCCARD NETWORK CARD
Price Per Unit: $39.99
Mnfr. Part #:PCMPC100

www.egghead.com/category/inv/00035336/03279569.htm
That's the link for the card.

Please let me know if anyone has heard of problems
with this pcmcia card, or success, thanks again to
all...


-Donnie

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Re: low memory debian

[Rod Young]

Is there still one on the 2.2 cd? I thought I read somewhere that debian 
no longer supported that.
I will check the disk when I go home.

>> Original Message <<

On 03/23/2001, 8:19:50 AM, Alexander Clouter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote regarding Re: low memory debian:


> On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, Rod Young wrote:
> >
> > Any way I can build a low memory install disk?
> >
> by typing (as root)

> dd if=/mnt/cdrom/path/to/low/mem/disk/on/cd of=/dev/fd0 bs=1k conv=sync;
> sync

> this will make you one low memory boot disk :)

> Alex


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Re: X on Gateway solo5300

[Jing Shi]

I tried to install Debian yesterday.  The biggest problem came from X setup.  At
first I couldn't get it work because there is no XF86_SVGA server--only VGA16.
Then I found one online(from Bill Richardson's site) and installed it.  It
worked but gave very bad color resolution and font size--I know my monitor is
only 800x600, but even though it should not looks such badly.  The worst thing
is I couldn't use X-window doing login.  The mechine dose not recoganize the
root password I typed in.  I don't know why.
Anyone has success in X setup?  My video card is Savage IX w/MV and monitor
resolution is 800x600.


CaT wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 01:45:17AM -0500, Jing Shi wrote:
> > Hello,  I just bought a used Gateway Solo5300 laptop and want to install
> > Debain for my work.  However, this laptop comes with minimum
> > documentation.  What I know is it's PIII600, 96mb RAM and 6GB HD.  The
> > screen is 12" and 800x600.  Anyone has similar setup and with successful
> > Debian installation?  Another question is the floppy and CD-ROM share
>
> I have a Gateway 5300 but my specs are way different. can you give
> provide us with a full list of specs?
>
> > one bay and are hot swappable.  How does Debian support it?
>
> The support needs to be in the kernel. you'll only be able to hotswap
> (from memory) if you boot with the cdrom in the drive first. there needs
> to be a way to notify the kernel's ide drivers that they should rescan
> the ide bus and configure for a new err... config. :)
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Re: update:pcmcia ethernet recommendation

[Francois Gouget]

On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Donnie Jones wrote:

> I found this card on www.shopper.com
> 
> LINKSYS ETHERFAST 10/100
> PCCARD NETWORK CARD
> Price Per Unit: $39.99
> Mnfr. Part #:PCMPC100
> 
> www.egghead.com/category/inv/00035336/03279569.htm
> That's the link for the card.
> 
> Please let me know if anyone has heard of problems
> with this pcmcia card, or success, thanks again to
> all...

   I had such a card and I had three beefs with it:
 * on some 10Mbps half-duplex networks performance was *very* bad. A
typical example is the network on which I was unable to get more than a
200kb/s (yes, 200 kilobits/second), while everyone else was routinely
able to achieve >8Mb/s. That was from another machine on the LAN and
very surprisingly it was faster to download things from the internet (so
presumably talking to some router on the LAN). I had no problem on my
home network though!
 * I bought it because it supports 100Mb/s in full-duplex and my home
network supports it through and through. But it's a 16bit card so i was
never able to get past 10-12Mb/s. That's pretty frustrating.
 * I broke the dongle. It's the usual story: the cable got stuck
somewhere, the cord pulled hard on the dongle, and now, although nothing
looks broken, the card does not work anymore (unless I push hard
downward on the dongle while I try to use the laptop with the other
hand). Since then I read that this model has a reputation of having a
rather fragile dongle.

   I have also used 3c589 cards and I never had any performance problem
with them (including on the network mentioned above). One of them has a
dongle that has ben beaten up pretty badly multiple times and is all out
of shape. But it still works. Not the bad side: if I unplug the RJ-45 it
thinks it switches to BNC mode and I have to eject/reinsert it to get my
network connection back. But that may be a driver bug (2.4.0test9).

   Actually I'm still looking for a replacement for my PCMPC100.
Currenly I'm looking for a _32bits_ 10/100Mb/s card. Maybe one of the
net 3coms with an XJack. But these are really much more expensive :-/

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updated:pcmcia ethernet recommendation(again) :)

[Donnie Jones]

I've found another pcmcia ethernet card and I would
like to ask if anyone has had any problems, success,
or whatnot.

Sorry to keep bothering the list with a dull topic,
but I have already bought one pcmcia ethernet card,
the IBM etherjet, and I had later found out the
drivers for it are crap.

Here it is:

D-Link DFE-680TX 10/100Mbps PCMCIA 32bit CardBus
www.ecost.com/ecost/shop/detail.asp?DPNo=939098


Thanks again for all the help

Donnie

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Re: X on Gateway solo5300

[CaT]

On Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 04:17:36PM -0500, Jing Shi wrote:
> I tried to install Debian yesterday.  The biggest problem came from X setup.  At
> first I couldn't get it work because there is no XF86_SVGA server--only VGA16.

apt-get install xserver will get you a list I believe

> Anyone has success in X setup?  My video card is Savage IX w/MV and monitor
> resolution is 800x600.

http://www.probo.com/timr/savagemx.html should be useful.

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Re: update:pcmcia ethernet recommendation

[Heather]

> I found this card on www.shopper.com
> 
> LINKSYS ETHERFAST 10/100
> PCCARD NETWORK CARD
> Price Per Unit: $39.99
> Mnfr. Part #:PCMPC100
> 
> www.egghead.com/category/inv/00035336/03279569.htm
> That's the link for the card.
> 
> Please let me know if anyone has heard of problems
> with this pcmcia card, or success, thanks again to
> all...

I believe I've encountered this one and it's a pleasantly
successful card.


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Re: Today's Challange

[Heather]

> G'Day !
> 
> Yes that is how I was planning on doing 2 thru N, I guess I was not clear 
> on the question.
> 
> My question was which files do I copy from destktop to /dev/hdb and how do 
> I make it bootable.  I can not figure out how to run the install program 
> dbootstrap to configure the base system.

I posted a fairly long slice of mail awhile back about installing debian
without using the debian installer. 

The approcimate steps are - 
* get access to the system such that you can make partitions
* make a swap and / at least
* drop "Base" into it, using whetever method works
* drop a kernel kit into it, since Base doesn't come with one
* clear /sbin/setup.sh so it doesn't stop coming in
* fix /etc/fstab to be correct
* fix /etc/lilo.conf to be correct & run /sbin/lilo;
  alternatively setup a dif't boot method (floppy, or loadlin)
* possibly also doctor network values so it will see network
  (/etc/network/interfaces for regular boxen or builtin cards,
   drop in card services, have pcmcia modules for pccards,
   and don't forget punp/dhclient or to set fixed values in
   /etc/pcmcia/network.opts)
* reboot 

...though I might have gone into more detail.  Much easier if you have
bootability from a floppy, there are lots of rescue floppies, incl. just
installing debian via floppy.

> Do I need to make a boot floppy, to boot the desktop and then install from 
> CD to /dev/hdb ?  I would rather not, the CD is rather exotic and a pain 
> to setup.

Possible to install "just like CD" from about 12 to 15 floppies.

> cheers,
> Jim Parker

Sail onward merrily!

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Re: updated:pcmcia ethernet recommendation(again) :)

[Heather]

> I've found another pcmcia ethernet card and I would
> like to ask if anyone has had any problems, success,
> or whatnot.
> 
> Sorry to keep bothering the list with a dull topic,
> but I have already bought one pcmcia ethernet card,
> the IBM etherjet, and I had later found out the
> drivers for it are crap.
> 
> Here it is:
> 
> D-Link DFE-680TX 10/100Mbps PCMCIA 32bit CardBus
> www.ecost.com/ecost/shop/detail.asp?DPNo=939098

I use a DFE-650 (which is not the same as a 680, I know, but...)

I have used it absolutely everywhere that I've gone for years 
with no hiccups, including places where others were having trouble.

Pls. note I keep the dongle out of the card and in my purse when not in
use.  So I dunno if the dongle is fragile or not, never having given it
a chance to be stressed nastily.


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Re: Today's Challange

[Stephen Hardman]

>   * fix /etc/lilo.conf to be correct & run /sbin/lilo;
> alternatively setup a dif't boot method (floppy, or loadlin)

Don't forget to set the bootdev to to the HD you're setting up.


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Re: updated:pcmcia ethernet recommendation(again) :)

[pplaw]

On Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 04:32:50PM -0800, Donnie Jones wrote:
> I've found another pcmcia ethernet card and I would
> like to ask if anyone has had any problems, success,
> or whatnot.
> 
> Sorry to keep bothering the list with a dull topic,
> but I have already bought one pcmcia ethernet card,
> the IBM etherjet, and I had later found out the
> drivers for it are crap.
> 
> Here it is:
> 
> D-Link DFE-680TX 10/100Mbps PCMCIA 32bit CardBus
> www.ecost.com/ecost/shop/detail.asp?DPNo=939098
> 
> 
> Thanks again for all the help
> 
> Donnie

hi,

...donno about the dlink.  my only experience was going
down to the local comp usa and getting a generic 10mbps
card for ~$30, which worked "outta" the box, in 3
different laptops (from clones to the outlandish sony 
picturebook), and on kernels 2.0.36 to 2.4.0!  

the box just says, "pcmcia network pc card for
notebooks. ...complies to ieee 802.3 10base-t ethernet
and pcmcia release 2.1...  system requirements:
ms-dos/win[dont].

oh, yeah, ...about the dongle...seems to be
sturdy enough but i pamper my tools (computers, cars,
etc.) so that part of it hasn't been put through
anything too severe.


hth.

bentley taylor.

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PCMCIA Ethernet Recommendation

[Jim Nutt]

Donnie Jones writes:
 > As you've probably had on here many times already by
 > other users, I am asking for some recommendations for
 > an inexpensive reliable pcmcia ethernet card for
 > debian.  Any information would be great.

I picked up a newmedia 10/100 card for $60 at Fry's here in San Jose,
it's NE2000 compatible and the best part is, no dongle! It's got a
small extension on the end of the card that the cable plugs into. I
had to add a file to /etc/pcmcia containing the following as
"newmedia.conf", once that was done it was recognized and works
great. And did I mention, there's no dongle?

 cut here "newmedia.conf"
card "iPort"
  manfid 0x0274, 0x1103
  bind "pcnet_cs"
 cut here

jim


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Re: Today's Challange

[Heather]

> > * fix /etc/lilo.conf to be correct & run /sbin/lilo;
> >   alternatively setup a dif't boot method (floppy, or loadlin)
> 
> Don't forget to set the bootdev to to the HD you're setting up.

Yes -- this is contained in "correct" and in the original post, I was 
consierably more verbose.

If you intend to boot from the HD the boot dev is the device with NO NUMBER
if you want LILO to be in the master boor record.  You can point it to a
partition explicitly and in fact, if you're only using LILO's second stage,
I think you want to.  (eg using GAG or some other GUI bootloader).  NT people
get special problems, you need a copy of lilo put in a file which you cut to
size ahead of time.  (Tho I deal so little with NT that that had been someone
else's to say, not mine, the first time around.)

And if you want to boot from floppy or not at all -- perhaps as a security
measure? -- then make sure a floppy is in, and use boot=/dev/fd0


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Re: Today's Challange

[Peter Cordes]

On Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 07:22:27PM -0800, Heather wrote:
> And if you want to boot from floppy or not at all -- perhaps as a security
> measure? -- then make sure a floppy is in, and use boot=/dev/fd0

 You can put this in lilo.conf to boot a floppy from lilo:
other=/dev/fd0
 label=floppy
 unsafe
 
 This lets you boot off the HD, so you can get into linux fast without
having the BIOS grind your FD.  If you want to boot off a floppy, you can do
so without going into the BIOS setup.  (The "unsafe" option makes it
possible to run /sbin/lilo without a floppy in the drive.)

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Re: updated:pcmcia ethernet recommendation(again) :)

[Francois Gouget]

On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Heather wrote:
[...]
> Pls. note I keep the dongle out of the card and in my purse when not in
> use.  So I dunno if the dongle is fragile or not, never having given it
> a chance to be stressed nastily.

   The problem is not when you transport the laptop.
   The problem is when you move the laptop while it's on and connected
to the network and maybe even downloading stuff. For example from the
coffee table to your lap. That's when there's danger.

   I guess as long as you only use your laptop on a desk one would have
no problem.


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