Compaq ArmadaE500 and the USB port

[J Trainer]

All,

I have the above listed laptop running debian 2.2, upgraded to kernel 2.4.2
with kde 2.11.  I'm unable to get the USB port to work correctly.  I have
compiled as bothe modules and kernel based.  I can plug in my usb mouse, and
I see in /var/log/messages that the kesington mouse is identified correctly,
but I cannot get it to work in X.  Likewise, I can boot 2.2.18, and get the
usb port to work just fine.

I have tried UHCI and UHCI JE.  OHCI does not work at all.  I have been
reading kerenel docs, and linux-usb.org.  I have also noticed that as I keep
trying to fix this, I'm no longer compiling modules.  (no files in
/lib/modules/usb).  The USB port is id'd in /proc/pci. not /proc/usb  Anyone
see this before?

John

Re: x configuration on sony vaio

[amael]

> > okay...it didn't work at first so i installed some more packages and
> > eventually tried XF86Setup and it basically worked fine (messed up
screen
> > though) so i used my config file instead -- didn't work. so i ran
XF86Setup
> > again, this time trying to more or less reproduce my old config file
with
> > that setup program, and this time i even got a nice screen and a good
> > resolution. anyway, when i run startx it doesn't work either. the
problem is
> > with X because i get the following output when i run either X or startx:
> >
> > var: allowed_users, value: rootonly.
> > var: nice_value, value: -10.
> >
> > the funny thing is that i can start x out of that XF86Setup thingie but
not
> > from the command-line. can you help me out? anyone?
> >
> > thanks!
> >
> > -amael
>
> XF86Setup uses the VGA16 server.
>
> From the commandline, are you root, or someone else?
>
>
> * Heather Stern * star@ many places...

XF86Setup launches a simple vga mode on start-up, but after i have finished
the configuration it also tests the configuration...so XF86Setup started up
the svga server with 1024x768 and 16bpp and it looked okay. from the
command-line i am root and it's not working either. the above is the output
i get on startx, except for a line saying something that x is shutting down
now...

thanks!

-amael

Re: x configuration on sony vaio

[amael]

> > okay...it didn't work at first so i installed some more packages and
> > eventually tried XF86Setup and it basically worked fine (messed up
screen
> > though) so i used my config file instead -- didn't work. so i ran
XF86Setup
> > again, this time trying to more or less reproduce my old config file
with
> > that setup program, and this time i even got a nice screen and a good
> > resolution. anyway, when i run startx it doesn't work either. the
problem is
> > with X because i get the following output when i run either X or startx:
> >
> > var: allowed_users, value: rootonly.
> > var: nice_value, value: -10.
> It looks like it is asking you to be logged in as root to startx. You
> can also do something like the following to capture the output of
> startx.
> startx > x.txt 2>&1
> Hope this helps,
> eric :-)
>

hmmm, alright, i did this again. startx produces the following output (as
root):

var: allowed_users, value: rootonly.
var: nice_value, value: -10.
X: cannot stat /etc/X11/X (No such file or directory), aborting.
giving up.
xinit: Connection refused (errno111): unable to connect to X server.
xinit: No such process (errno3): Server error.

now, i know that X is in /usr/bin/X11 so if i copy it to /etc/X11/ my output
is basically the first two lines of the above output, repeated infinitly.

as i said, XF86Setup manages to start X in svga and everything seems okay,
but if i start it manually (either as normal user or root) it doesn't work.

thanks for your time!

-amael

Re: configuring X and IrDa on ASUS A1

[NOKUBI Takatsugu]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>> I really need help to configure X, I mean the ModeLine for the internal
>> LCD screen. Later I probably will need help for IrDA but I think that
>> this is a chipset still not supported by the kernel.

What kind of IrDA chipset is on the laptop? ALi? 2.4.x kernel supports
ALi chipset.

-- 
NOKUBI Takatsugu
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: x configuration on sony vaio

[amael]

okay, i just figured this out. if anyone experiences the same problem, make
a symlink /etc/X11/X that points to your xserver (the one you want to use!)
and another symlink /etc/XF86Config that points to /etc/X11/XF86Config

that worked for me.

however, my pcmcia-ethernet still isn't working. i installed those packages
and modules...isn't there anything else i need to do?


> > okay...it didn't work at first so i installed some more packages and
> > eventually tried XF86Setup and it basically worked fine (messed up
screen
> > though) so i used my config file instead -- didn't work. so i ran
XF86Setup
> > again, this time trying to more or less reproduce my old config file
with
> > that setup program, and this time i even got a nice screen and a good
> > resolution. anyway, when i run startx it doesn't work either. the
problem is
> > with X because i get the following output when i run either X or startx:
> >
> > var: allowed_users, value: rootonly.
> > var: nice_value, value: -10.
> >
> > the funny thing is that i can start x out of that XF86Setup thingie but
not
> > from the command-line. can you help me out? anyone?
> >
> > thanks!
> >
> > -amael
>
> XF86Setup uses the VGA16 server.
>
> From the commandline, are you root, or someone else?
>
>
> * Heather Stern * star@ many places...
>
>
> --
> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>

Unidentified subject!

[Christophe Labourdette]

unsubscribe

Laptop Recommendations

[Todd Kokoszka]

Hi,

I'm interested in buying an old laptop and installing Debian on it. What are 
people's recommendations?


I've been looking at the Dell Latitude XPi P150 and P166. They have an 
installed CD-ROM and floppy. I've also been looking at the HP Omnibook 
800CT, I think with a 150 cpu.


Thanks,
Todd
_
Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

Re: x configuration on sony vaio

[Eric Richardson]

amael wrote:
> 
> okay, i just figured this out. if anyone experiences the same problem, make
> a symlink /etc/X11/X that points to your xserver (the one you want to use!)
> and another symlink /etc/XF86Config that points to /etc/X11/XF86Config
> 
There is a file /etc/X11/Xserver. The first line states the server name
like XF86_SVGA. Please check this as you should not have to create a
symlink. Your method circumvents the way it is suppose to work in
Debian.

Hope this helps,
Eric :-)

Re: x configuration on sony vaio

[William F. Dowling]

Eric Richardson writes:
 > amael wrote:
 > > 
 > > okay, i just figured this out. [...]
 > There is a file /etc/X11/Xserver. The first line states the server name
 > like XF86_SVGA. Please check this as you should not have to create a
 > symlink. Your method circumvents the way it is suppose to work in
 > Debian.

Thanks for mentioneing this Eric.  I was wondering what the message
amael reported was talking about : " ... rootonly ..."  This is what
my /etc/X11/Xserver has, maybe useful for amael:
  $ cat /etc/X11/Xserver
  /etc/X11/X
  Console

  The first line in this file is the full pathname of the default X server.
  The second line shows who is allowed to run the X server:
  RootOnly
  Console  (anyone whose controlling tty is on the console)
  Anybody


Will

-- 
William F. Dowling
ISI/Thomson Scientific (www.isinet.com)
215-386-0100 x-1156

Re: x configuration on sony vaio

[Eric Richardson]

"William F. Dowling" wrote:
> 
> Eric Richardson writes:
>  > amael wrote:
>  > >
>  > > okay, i just figured this out. [...]
>  > There is a file /etc/X11/Xserver. The first line states the server name
>  > like XF86_SVGA. Please check this as you should not have to create a
>  > symlink. Your method circumvents the way it is suppose to work in
>  > Debian.
> 
> Thanks for mentioneing this Eric.  I was wondering what the message
> amael reported was talking about : " ... rootonly ..." 

I don't really know about this message - I'm pretty new as well. There
is a debian-laptop list as well in case anyone is interested.

> This is what
> my /etc/X11/Xserver has, maybe useful for amael:
>   $ cat /etc/X11/Xserver
>   /etc/X11/X
>   Console
> 
>   The first line in this file is the full pathname of the default X server.
>   The second line shows who is allowed to run the X server:
>   RootOnly
>   Console  (anyone whose controlling tty is on the console)
>   Anybody
> 
> Will
> 
> --
> William F. Dowling
> ISI/Thomson Scientific (www.isinet.com)
> 215-386-0100 x-1156

Re: x configuration on sony vaio

[amael]

> amael wrote:
> >
> > okay, i just figured this out. if anyone experiences the same problem,
make
> > a symlink /etc/X11/X that points to your xserver (the one you want to
use!)
> > and another symlink /etc/XF86Config that points to /etc/X11/XF86Config
> >
> There is a file /etc/X11/Xserver. The first line states the server name
> like XF86_SVGA. Please check this as you should not have to create a
> symlink. Your method circumvents the way it is suppose to work in
> Debian.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Eric :-)

hmmm, this is interesting. i do have the file /etc/X11/Xserver and it has my
xserver in the top line (not /etc/X11/X but the address of the xserver
itself) i do not know why that is. i suppose it would be more straight
forward the way will posted it...maybe i'll just point Xserver to X and then
it should be the same thing, right?

-amael

first experiences and problems

[amael]

hello. i thought i'd continue to post my first experiences on installing
debian on my notebook and the problems i ran into, because it is certainly a
lot easier with all your kind help...and apart from that i think it might be
useful to others. so, in case you think i am wasting your time and
disk-space please tell me and i'll stop right away, promise!

my pcmcia ethernet card did not work at first because, for some reason the
network is initialised prior to pcmcia support in my start-routine. so
basically the script /etc/init.d/networking restart does the job (provided
pcmcia support is installed of course).

coming from suse i am exploring dselect and apt right now and...wow.

still, some problems left:

sound! the sony vaio pcg-sr1k comes with a yamaha ds-xg. under suse the alsa
drivers worked out of the box (alsaconf automatically detected the sound
card) so far i couldn't get it to work under debian though, but i haven't
really looked into it yet.

usb-support: i am using an usb mouse, in my old XF86Config i had this
passage:

Section "XInput"
SubSection"Mouse"
Port   "/dev/USB mouse"
Protocol"IMPS/2"
Device"/dev/USB mouse"
Buttons   5
ZAxisMapping5 4
AlwaysCore

however this doesn't work under debian even though i activated usb support
during the installation. does anyone know how to solve this problem? the
touchpad is okay but it does get tedious after a while!

thanks all!

-amael

dhcp with pcmcia

[Andrew D Dixon]

Hi All,
I'm trying to configure my laptop to use dhcp and I'm running into some
trouble.

Formerly it was using a static IP address so I went into /etc/pcmcia and
edited network.opts deleting all of the static stuff and I added:

DHCP="y"

Now, when I inster my ethernet card I get two beeps, one high and the second
low (problem).  the LED's on the jack indicate that the connection's OK but
ifconfig doesn't show an entry for eth0.

Any help, hints, pointers in the right direction would be greatly
appreciated.

Thanks,
Andy

P.S. I'm using pump right now and I'm going to try dhcpcd and dhcp-client.


_
Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

Re: x configuration on sony vaio

[Eric Richardson]

amael wrote:
> 
> > > okay...it didn't work at first so i installed some more packages and
> > > eventually tried XF86Setup and it basically worked fine (messed up
> screen
> > > though) so i used my config file instead -- didn't work. so i ran
> XF86Setup
> > > again, this time trying to more or less reproduce my old config file
> with
> > > that setup program, and this time i even got a nice screen and a good
> > > resolution. anyway, when i run startx it doesn't work either. the
> problem is
> > > with X because i get the following output when i run either X or startx:
> > >
> > > var: allowed_users, value: rootonly.
> > > var: nice_value, value: -10.

I did a bit of looking as I had some problems when I install as well.

First, when you run XF86Setup you should save the file to
/etc/X11/XF86Config. There is a symbolic link from
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config to that file. The setup program defaults
in the the save dialog to the symlink.

Also, you shouldn't have to do weird things like copy files around and
such on Debian. The whole dpkg, apt approach is so you don't have to do
this. So I would try to undo anything abnormal if you can. BTW, I've
been using SuSE and have one box to switch to Debian.

The first line of the /etc/X11/XF86Config file should be
/usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_ where I assume you should have SVGA for .
The rest of the file on my box is as follows
Console

These are the choices
RootOnly
Console
AnyBody


I'm running Gnome so I installed gdm(gnome display manager) as the
default on install is xdm and twm for the window manager. I also decided
to install icewm to run instead of twm but twm will work.
apt-get install gdm
later you can install icewm or sawmill or whatever. apt-get install
icewm

Also nothing worked until I rebooted and I got wierd can't open display
messages when gdm was not installed or was not running.

Also since I didn't pick the svga server during install, I had to do the
following.
apt-get install xserver-svga

You can also do a dpkg -l to list what is installed. Overall, I think
Debian rules -- not released before it's time(at least stable).

Hope this helps,
Eric :-)

Re: Laptop Recommendations

[Peter Cordes]

On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 04:44:03PM -, Todd Kokoszka wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm interested in buying an old laptop and installing Debian on it. What are 
> people's recommendations?
 
 Get something with enough RAM for what you want.  Esp. older laptops
sometimes use custom RAM that only works with that model, so upgrades are
expensive.
 
 Try to get one with at lithium battery, since they're better.
Nickel-metal-hydride (NiMH) batteries are ok.  Don't get nickel-cadmium,
since they don't hold as much charge, and suffer from the "memory effect",
where they lose effective capacity if you don't discharge them all the way.
(you can reverse this a bit, but it's not good.)

 In general, laptop upgrades cost a lot more than for desktop machines.
Don't buy a really cheap laptop and plan to upgrade.  (unless it was really,
really cheap, and not too bad.)  Hard drives are an exception.  Laptop ones
cost more, but they are compatible.

 Some laptops with slow-by-modern-standards processors have CPUs which were
the fastest for their time, and use a lot of power.  I've heard tales of
P200MMX laptops that would run for half an hour on a full charge.  If
you're going to be near an outlet most of the time, you can get away with
buying a power-hungry laptop, though.

 Another thing to watch for is that older laptops might not be PCI-based, in
which case they probably won't take 32-bit (cardbus) PC cards, and you won't
be able to tweak the hard drive performance with hdparm very well
(probably).  If this matters to you, then get a PCI laptop.  (I think most
pentium laptops would use PCI).

-- 
#define X(x,y) x##y
Peter Cordes ;  e-mail: X([EMAIL PROTECTED] , ns.ca)

"The gods confound the man who first found out how to distinguish the hours!
 Confound him, too, who in this place set up a sundial, to cut and hack
 my day so wretchedly into small pieces!" -- Plautus, 200 BCE

Re: dhcp with pcmcia

[Eric Richardson]

Andrew D Dixon wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> I'm trying to configure my laptop to use dhcp and I'm running into some
> trouble.
> 
> Formerly it was using a static IP address so I went into /etc/pcmcia and
> edited network.opts deleting all of the static stuff and I added:
> 
> DHCP="y"
> 
> Now, when I inster my ethernet card I get two beeps, one high and the second
> low (problem).  the LED's on the jack indicate that the connection's OK but
> ifconfig doesn't show an entry for eth0.
> 
You need pump or dhclient installed to negotiate with the dhcpd where
you are getting your address and other network params.

ifconfig should show lo.(loopback) 

Use ifconfig to start the interface.

ifconfig eth0 up 

Hope this helps,
Eric :-)

quality of postscript display

[Steven K Thompson]

I have Debian 2.2r2 on a Vaio F340 laptop.  When I view a
postscript file with gv, the type is broken and hard to
read on the display.  This is true for example when I try 
to view files in the Debian documentation that are provided
in postscript form, such as debian-guide, and is also true
when I have created the postscript file myself with dvips.
  In contrast, the type is very clear
for example when viewing a latex dvi file with xdvi.

Would my problem have to do with the fonts used in the
postscript file or something quite different?

I would appreciate any explanation and advice anyone can
provide on this.

Steve

Re: quality of postscript display

[Peter Cordes]

On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 04:40:32PM -0500, Steven K Thompson wrote:
> I have Debian 2.2r2 on a Vaio F340 laptop.  When I view a
> postscript file with gv, the type is broken and hard to
> read on the display.  This is true for example when I try 
> to view files in the Debian documentation that are provided
> in postscript form, such as debian-guide, and is also true
> when I have created the postscript file myself with dvips.
>   In contrast, the type is very clear
> for example when viewing a latex dvi file with xdvi.
> 
> Would my problem have to do with the fonts used in the
> postscript file or something quite different?
> 
> I would appreciate any explanation and advice anyone can
> provide on this.

dvips-produced postscript files always look terrible on screen.  Read the
HTML version.  If you want to produce screen-viewable stuff with LaTeX, use
pdflatex to make a PDF.  That way, you'll get scalable fonts and things will
work well.  I don't know all the details of how fonts work and stuff, but I
do know that what you see is normal.  If you just want to view on screen,
then stick with xdvi.
 
  (BTW, some people on my LUG mailing list were trying to produce a PDF
version of the debian-guide, for the benefit of people with windows
computers.  pstopdf ends up using bad fonts (unless you configure it a
certain way, which I don't remember), so it's not even readable when viewed
with xpdf.  pdflatex produced a PDF where the text was offset half off the
page to the right.  If you have the spare time to figure out what's going
on, that would be great.  Debian should make a PDF version of the
debian-guide available, at least one we figure out how to make one that
looks right and uses scalable fonts.)

-- 
#define X(x,y) x##y
Peter Cordes ;  e-mail: X([EMAIL PROTECTED] , ns.ca)

"The gods confound the man who first found out how to distinguish the hours!
 Confound him, too, who in this place set up a sundial, to cut and hack
 my day so wretchedly into small pieces!" -- Plautus, 200 BCE

Re: dhcp with pcmcia

[Alan Chen]

Can you manually enable your ethernet card using
ifup eth0

I'm using dhcpcd with my internal ethernet.

--Alan


--- Andrew D Dixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi All,
> I'm trying to configure my laptop to use dhcp and I'm running into some
> trouble.
> 
> Formerly it was using a static IP address so I went into /etc/pcmcia and
> edited network.opts deleting all of the static stuff and I added:
> 
>   DHCP="y"
> 
> Now, when I inster my ethernet card I get two beeps, one high and the second
> low (problem).  the LED's on the jack indicate that the connection's OK but
> ifconfig doesn't show an entry for eth0.
> 
> Any help, hints, pointers in the right direction would be greatly
> appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> Andy
> 
> P.S. I'm using pump right now and I'm going to try dhcpcd and dhcp-client.


__
Do You Yahoo!?
Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. 
http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

Re: Laptop Recommendations

[Todd V . Rovito]

Just as a warning I started by purchasing a used cheap notebook, it
was a IBM ThinkPad 760EL that I purchased from a used computer store cheap.
The problem is I got addicted to the concept of portable computer and had
to have a newer, faster, and better notebook so I now own a ThinkPad A20M.
The ThinkPad A20M is great and I can not imagine life with out it!  If this
is something you are going to use alot you may want to purchase a new laptop.

Thus spake Peter Cordes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

> On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 04:44:03PM -, Todd Kokoszka wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I'm interested in buying an old laptop and installing Debian on it. What 
> > are 
> > people's recommendations?
-- 
Todd V. Rovito
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Carpe Aptenodytes!  "Seize the Penguins!" 

Hot keys on HP Pavilion

[Alan Chen]

I'm trying to get my hot keys to respond on my HP Pavilion. There's a mail key,
a www key, a help key, and a misc key.  I've tried xev and scankey -s and
neither shows any response to keypresses on those buttons.  I'm willing to do
some coding to get them to work eventually, but am at a loss for where to start
looking to start that process.  Can anyone point me in the right direction?

--Alan


__
Do You Yahoo!?
Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. 
http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

Re: Laptop Recommendations

[Heather]

> Hi,
> 
> I'm interested in buying an old laptop and installing Debian on it. What are 
> people's recommendations?
> 
> I've been looking at the Dell Latitude XPi P150 and P166. They have an 
> installed CD-ROM and floppy. I've also been looking at the HP Omnibook 
> 800CT, I think with a 150 cpu.

The Omnibook 800CT makes a very happy debian box!  (Personal experience)


* Heather Stern * star@ many places...

Re: Laptop Recommendations

[Heather]

> Just as a warning I started by purchasing a used cheap notebook, it
> was a IBM ThinkPad 760EL that I purchased from a used computer store cheap.
> The problem is I got addicted to the concept of portable computer and had
> to have a newer, faster, and better notebook so I now own a ThinkPad A20M.
> The ThinkPad A20M is great and I can not imagine life with out it!  If this
> is something you are going to use alot you may want to purchase a new laptop.

Also in the category of general recommendations, just mentally add 1.5 pounds
to whatever they say the silly thing weighs.  Otherwise you'll find that
its carrying case and your power adapter and other toys you enjoy carrying
with it weigh a lot more than you had in mind!

My first laptop was a p60 which ran hot (see "fastest CPU for its time").
It also was quite heavy, which I decided wasn't too bad after a few months
of carrying around the Computer Shopper Guide like it was the JCPenney 
xmas wish book or something.  I didn't realize its power brick was heavy too.
And if I wanted an extra battery, another brick!

And, while it's possible it's a real pain to replace the keyboard.  So if
you can get your hands on the model you're considering, esp. if your hands
are large... it's a good idea to try out a little typing on the beast 
before committing your hands to live with it.

If you get a lightweight with external CD, consider just buying your own
external CD bay, if it's USB driven - you can probably save a bunch;  you
could even get a CDRW instead.  Just surf the iMac aisle comparing the 
optional drive to the iMac boxed products.  Someone I know recently saved 
themselves almost $200 to get a faster drive.

Now, in the category of debian recommendations...

Sound is really popular but lots of our questions are folks trying to spin
up sound the first time; with 3 ways to do it (but only one right per machine)
it really is a pain.  I've seen CS4281's appearing a lot lately and they use
a "normal" kernel module so I would gravitate towards it, if shown a bunch
of otherwise equivalent laptops.

I've not enough experience with the recent video chips to be sure of any good 
ones to really shoot for, (e.g rocking fast X 4 support, etc.) but the ATI 
Mobility family should be a safe bet if you feel lost.

* Heather Stern * star@ many places...

Re: SDRAM for Dell Latitude c800

[Jacek M. Wuwer]

> I have a Dell Latitude C800.
> 
> I currently have only 128mb of SDRAM.
> 
> I have been told by some mates of mine that I could just purchase
> 
> generic Laptop SDRAMS eg. 128mb approximately for $100AUD.
> 
> is that true, or do I have to buy DELL specific RAM?
> 
> if anyone has any experience with this, please let me know.

I would consult first the technical documentation on Dell web site, note
what type of memories your model can accept ( Bus clock speed is
important ). With those restrictions you should be able to use generic
SDRAM module. I think C800 may use the same modules as CPx: up to
256MB-100Mhz.

I considered bying a somewhat slower generic 128MB 4 months ago, but at
this time Dell offered it for lower! price ( ~$70 ), so I went fot it. 
I remember I had a problem with generic memory in my old Latitude LM, it
recognised only half of the memory installed, but I managed to return
it. When I bought another pair ( by different manufacturer ) and it
worked fine.   

Jacek

Re: x configuration on sony vaio

[amael]

> > okay...it didn't work at first so i installed some more packages and
> > eventually tried XF86Setup and it basically worked fine (messed up
screen
> > though) so i used my config file instead -- didn't work. so i ran
XF86Setup
> > again, this time trying to more or less reproduce my old config file
with
> > that setup program, and this time i even got a nice screen and a good
> > resolution. anyway, when i run startx it doesn't work either. the
problem is
> > with X because i get the following output when i run either X or startx:
> >
> > var: allowed_users, value: rootonly.
> > var: nice_value, value: -10.
> >
> > the funny thing is that i can start x out of that XF86Setup thingie but
not
> > from the command-line. can you help me out? anyone?
> >
> > thanks!
> >
> > -amael
>
> XF86Setup uses the VGA16 server.
>
> From the commandline, are you root, or someone else?
>
>
> * Heather Stern * star@ many places...

XF86Setup launches a simple vga mode on start-up, but after i have finished
the configuration it also tests the configuration...so XF86Setup started up
the svga server with 1024x768 and 16bpp and it looked okay. from the
command-line i am root and it's not working either. the above is the output
i get on startx, except for a line saying something that x is shutting down
now...

thanks!

-amael






--  
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: x configuration on sony vaio

[amael]

> > okay...it didn't work at first so i installed some more packages and
> > eventually tried XF86Setup and it basically worked fine (messed up
screen
> > though) so i used my config file instead -- didn't work. so i ran
XF86Setup
> > again, this time trying to more or less reproduce my old config file
with
> > that setup program, and this time i even got a nice screen and a good
> > resolution. anyway, when i run startx it doesn't work either. the
problem is
> > with X because i get the following output when i run either X or startx:
> >
> > var: allowed_users, value: rootonly.
> > var: nice_value, value: -10.
> It looks like it is asking you to be logged in as root to startx. You
> can also do something like the following to capture the output of
> startx.
> startx > x.txt 2>&1
> Hope this helps,
> eric :-)
>

hmmm, alright, i did this again. startx produces the following output (as
root):

var: allowed_users, value: rootonly.
var: nice_value, value: -10.
X: cannot stat /etc/X11/X (No such file or directory), aborting.
giving up.
xinit: Connection refused (errno111): unable to connect to X server.
xinit: No such process (errno3): Server error.

now, i know that X is in /usr/bin/X11 so if i copy it to /etc/X11/ my output
is basically the first two lines of the above output, repeated infinitly.

as i said, XF86Setup manages to start X in svga and everything seems okay,
but if i start it manually (either as normal user or root) it doesn't work.

thanks for your time!

-amael





--  
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: configuring X and IrDa on ASUS A1

[NOKUBI Takatsugu]

In article 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>> I really need help to configure X, I mean the ModeLine for the internal
>> LCD screen. Later I probably will need help for IrDA but I think that
>> this is a chipset still not supported by the kernel.

What kind of IrDA chipset is on the laptop? ALi? 2.4.x kernel supports
ALi chipset.

-- 
NOKUBI Takatsugu
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED]


--  
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: x configuration on sony vaio

[amael]

okay, i just figured this out. if anyone experiences the same problem, make
a symlink /etc/X11/X that points to your xserver (the one you want to use!)
and another symlink /etc/XF86Config that points to /etc/X11/XF86Config

that worked for me.

however, my pcmcia-ethernet still isn't working. i installed those packages
and modules...isn't there anything else i need to do?


> > okay...it didn't work at first so i installed some more packages and
> > eventually tried XF86Setup and it basically worked fine (messed up
screen
> > though) so i used my config file instead -- didn't work. so i ran
XF86Setup
> > again, this time trying to more or less reproduce my old config file
with
> > that setup program, and this time i even got a nice screen and a good
> > resolution. anyway, when i run startx it doesn't work either. the
problem is
> > with X because i get the following output when i run either X or startx:
> >
> > var: allowed_users, value: rootonly.
> > var: nice_value, value: -10.
> >
> > the funny thing is that i can start x out of that XF86Setup thingie but
not
> > from the command-line. can you help me out? anyone?
> >
> > thanks!
> >
> > -amael
>
> XF86Setup uses the VGA16 server.
>
> From the commandline, are you root, or someone else?
>
>
> * Heather Stern * star@ many places...
>
>
> --
> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>


--  
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Unidentified subject!

[Christophe Labourdette]

unsubscribe


--  
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Laptop Recommendations

[Todd Kokoszka]

Hi,

I'm interested in buying an old laptop and installing Debian on it. What are 
people's recommendations?

I've been looking at the Dell Latitude XPi P150 and P166. They have an 
installed CD-ROM and floppy. I've also been looking at the HP Omnibook 
800CT, I think with a 150 cpu.

Thanks,
Todd
_
Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.


--  
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: x configuration on sony vaio

[Eric Richardson]

amael wrote:
> 
> okay, i just figured this out. if anyone experiences the same problem, make
> a symlink /etc/X11/X that points to your xserver (the one you want to use!)
> and another symlink /etc/XF86Config that points to /etc/X11/XF86Config
> 
There is a file /etc/X11/Xserver. The first line states the server name
like XF86_SVGA. Please check this as you should not have to create a
symlink. Your method circumvents the way it is suppose to work in
Debian.

Hope this helps,
Eric :-)


--  
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: x configuration on sony vaio

[William F. Dowling]

Eric Richardson writes:
 > amael wrote:
 > > 
 > > okay, i just figured this out. [...]
 > There is a file /etc/X11/Xserver. The first line states the server name
 > like XF86_SVGA. Please check this as you should not have to create a
 > symlink. Your method circumvents the way it is suppose to work in
 > Debian.

Thanks for mentioneing this Eric.  I was wondering what the message
amael reported was talking about : " ... rootonly ..."  This is what
my /etc/X11/Xserver has, maybe useful for amael:
  $ cat /etc/X11/Xserver
  /etc/X11/X
  Console

  The first line in this file is the full pathname of the default X server.
  The second line shows who is allowed to run the X server:
  RootOnly
  Console  (anyone whose controlling tty is on the console)
  Anybody


Will

-- 
William F. Dowling
ISI/Thomson Scientific (www.isinet.com)
215-386-0100 x-1156


--  
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: x configuration on sony vaio

[Eric Richardson]

"William F. Dowling" wrote:
> 
> Eric Richardson writes:
>  > amael wrote:
>  > >
>  > > okay, i just figured this out. [...]
>  > There is a file /etc/X11/Xserver. The first line states the server name
>  > like XF86_SVGA. Please check this as you should not have to create a
>  > symlink. Your method circumvents the way it is suppose to work in
>  > Debian.
> 
> Thanks for mentioneing this Eric.  I was wondering what the message
> amael reported was talking about : " ... rootonly ..." 

I don't really know about this message - I'm pretty new as well. There
is a debian-laptop list as well in case anyone is interested.

> This is what
> my /etc/X11/Xserver has, maybe useful for amael:
>   $ cat /etc/X11/Xserver
>   /etc/X11/X
>   Console
> 
>   The first line in this file is the full pathname of the default X server.
>   The second line shows who is allowed to run the X server:
>   RootOnly
>   Console  (anyone whose controlling tty is on the console)
>   Anybody
> 
> Will
> 
> --
> William F. Dowling
> ISI/Thomson Scientific (www.isinet.com)
> 215-386-0100 x-1156


--  
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: x configuration on sony vaio

[amael]

> amael wrote:
> >
> > okay, i just figured this out. if anyone experiences the same problem,
make
> > a symlink /etc/X11/X that points to your xserver (the one you want to
use!)
> > and another symlink /etc/XF86Config that points to /etc/X11/XF86Config
> >
> There is a file /etc/X11/Xserver. The first line states the server name
> like XF86_SVGA. Please check this as you should not have to create a
> symlink. Your method circumvents the way it is suppose to work in
> Debian.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Eric :-)

hmmm, this is interesting. i do have the file /etc/X11/Xserver and it has my
xserver in the top line (not /etc/X11/X but the address of the xserver
itself) i do not know why that is. i suppose it would be more straight
forward the way will posted it...maybe i'll just point Xserver to X and then
it should be the same thing, right?

-amael




--  
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

first experiences and problems

[amael]

hello. i thought i'd continue to post my first experiences on installing
debian on my notebook and the problems i ran into, because it is certainly a
lot easier with all your kind help...and apart from that i think it might be
useful to others. so, in case you think i am wasting your time and
disk-space please tell me and i'll stop right away, promise!

my pcmcia ethernet card did not work at first because, for some reason the
network is initialised prior to pcmcia support in my start-routine. so
basically the script /etc/init.d/networking restart does the job (provided
pcmcia support is installed of course).

coming from suse i am exploring dselect and apt right now and...wow.

still, some problems left:

sound! the sony vaio pcg-sr1k comes with a yamaha ds-xg. under suse the alsa
drivers worked out of the box (alsaconf automatically detected the sound
card) so far i couldn't get it to work under debian though, but i haven't
really looked into it yet.

usb-support: i am using an usb mouse, in my old XF86Config i had this
passage:

Section "XInput"
SubSection"Mouse"
Port   "/dev/USB mouse"
Protocol"IMPS/2"
Device"/dev/USB mouse"
Buttons   5
ZAxisMapping5 4
AlwaysCore

however this doesn't work under debian even though i activated usb support
during the installation. does anyone know how to solve this problem? the
touchpad is okay but it does get tedious after a while!

thanks all!

-amael





--  
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

dhcp with pcmcia

[Andrew D Dixon]

Hi All,
I'm trying to configure my laptop to use dhcp and I'm running into some
trouble.

Formerly it was using a static IP address so I went into /etc/pcmcia and
edited network.opts deleting all of the static stuff and I added:

DHCP="y"

Now, when I inster my ethernet card I get two beeps, one high and the second
low (problem).  the LED's on the jack indicate that the connection's OK but
ifconfig doesn't show an entry for eth0.

Any help, hints, pointers in the right direction would be greatly
appreciated.

Thanks,
Andy

P.S. I'm using pump right now and I'm going to try dhcpcd and dhcp-client.


_
Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com



--  
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: x configuration on sony vaio

[Eric Richardson]

amael wrote:
> 
> > > okay...it didn't work at first so i installed some more packages and
> > > eventually tried XF86Setup and it basically worked fine (messed up
> screen
> > > though) so i used my config file instead -- didn't work. so i ran
> XF86Setup
> > > again, this time trying to more or less reproduce my old config file
> with
> > > that setup program, and this time i even got a nice screen and a good
> > > resolution. anyway, when i run startx it doesn't work either. the
> problem is
> > > with X because i get the following output when i run either X or startx:
> > >
> > > var: allowed_users, value: rootonly.
> > > var: nice_value, value: -10.

I did a bit of looking as I had some problems when I install as well.

First, when you run XF86Setup you should save the file to
/etc/X11/XF86Config. There is a symbolic link from
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config to that file. The setup program defaults
in the the save dialog to the symlink.

Also, you shouldn't have to do weird things like copy files around and
such on Debian. The whole dpkg, apt approach is so you don't have to do
this. So I would try to undo anything abnormal if you can. BTW, I've
been using SuSE and have one box to switch to Debian.

The first line of the /etc/X11/XF86Config file should be
/usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_ where I assume you should have SVGA for .
The rest of the file on my box is as follows
Console

These are the choices
RootOnly
Console
AnyBody


I'm running Gnome so I installed gdm(gnome display manager) as the
default on install is xdm and twm for the window manager. I also decided
to install icewm to run instead of twm but twm will work.
apt-get install gdm
later you can install icewm or sawmill or whatever. apt-get install
icewm

Also nothing worked until I rebooted and I got wierd can't open display
messages when gdm was not installed or was not running.

Also since I didn't pick the svga server during install, I had to do the
following.
apt-get install xserver-svga

You can also do a dpkg -l to list what is installed. Overall, I think
Debian rules -- not released before it's time(at least stable).

Hope this helps,
Eric :-)


--  
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Laptop Recommendations

[Peter Cordes]

On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 04:44:03PM -, Todd Kokoszka wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm interested in buying an old laptop and installing Debian on it. What are 
> people's recommendations?
 
 Get something with enough RAM for what you want.  Esp. older laptops
sometimes use custom RAM that only works with that model, so upgrades are
expensive.
 
 Try to get one with at lithium battery, since they're better.
Nickel-metal-hydride (NiMH) batteries are ok.  Don't get nickel-cadmium,
since they don't hold as much charge, and suffer from the "memory effect",
where they lose effective capacity if you don't discharge them all the way.
(you can reverse this a bit, but it's not good.)

 In general, laptop upgrades cost a lot more than for desktop machines.
Don't buy a really cheap laptop and plan to upgrade.  (unless it was really,
really cheap, and not too bad.)  Hard drives are an exception.  Laptop ones
cost more, but they are compatible.

 Some laptops with slow-by-modern-standards processors have CPUs which were
the fastest for their time, and use a lot of power.  I've heard tales of
P200MMX laptops that would run for half an hour on a full charge.  If
you're going to be near an outlet most of the time, you can get away with
buying a power-hungry laptop, though.

 Another thing to watch for is that older laptops might not be PCI-based, in
which case they probably won't take 32-bit (cardbus) PC cards, and you won't
be able to tweak the hard drive performance with hdparm very well
(probably).  If this matters to you, then get a PCI laptop.  (I think most
pentium laptops would use PCI).

-- 
#define X(x,y) x##y
Peter Cordes ;  e-mail: X([EMAIL PROTECTED] , ns.ca)

"The gods confound the man who first found out how to distinguish the hours!
 Confound him, too, who in this place set up a sundial, to cut and hack
 my day so wretchedly into small pieces!" -- Plautus, 200 BCE


--  
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: dhcp with pcmcia

[Eric Richardson]

Andrew D Dixon wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> I'm trying to configure my laptop to use dhcp and I'm running into some
> trouble.
> 
> Formerly it was using a static IP address so I went into /etc/pcmcia and
> edited network.opts deleting all of the static stuff and I added:
> 
> DHCP="y"
> 
> Now, when I inster my ethernet card I get two beeps, one high and the second
> low (problem).  the LED's on the jack indicate that the connection's OK but
> ifconfig doesn't show an entry for eth0.
> 
You need pump or dhclient installed to negotiate with the dhcpd where
you are getting your address and other network params.

ifconfig should show lo.(loopback) 

Use ifconfig to start the interface.

ifconfig eth0 up 

Hope this helps,
Eric :-)


--  
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

quality of postscript display

[Steven K Thompson]

I have Debian 2.2r2 on a Vaio F340 laptop.  When I view a
postscript file with gv, the type is broken and hard to
read on the display.  This is true for example when I try 
to view files in the Debian documentation that are provided
in postscript form, such as debian-guide, and is also true
when I have created the postscript file myself with dvips.
  In contrast, the type is very clear
for example when viewing a latex dvi file with xdvi.

Would my problem have to do with the fonts used in the
postscript file or something quite different?

I would appreciate any explanation and advice anyone can
provide on this.

Steve




--  
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: quality of postscript display

[Peter Cordes]

On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 04:40:32PM -0500, Steven K Thompson wrote:
> I have Debian 2.2r2 on a Vaio F340 laptop.  When I view a
> postscript file with gv, the type is broken and hard to
> read on the display.  This is true for example when I try 
> to view files in the Debian documentation that are provided
> in postscript form, such as debian-guide, and is also true
> when I have created the postscript file myself with dvips.
>   In contrast, the type is very clear
> for example when viewing a latex dvi file with xdvi.
> 
> Would my problem have to do with the fonts used in the
> postscript file or something quite different?
> 
> I would appreciate any explanation and advice anyone can
> provide on this.

dvips-produced postscript files always look terrible on screen.  Read the
HTML version.  If you want to produce screen-viewable stuff with LaTeX, use
pdflatex to make a PDF.  That way, you'll get scalable fonts and things will
work well.  I don't know all the details of how fonts work and stuff, but I
do know that what you see is normal.  If you just want to view on screen,
then stick with xdvi.
 
  (BTW, some people on my LUG mailing list were trying to produce a PDF
version of the debian-guide, for the benefit of people with windows
computers.  pstopdf ends up using bad fonts (unless you configure it a
certain way, which I don't remember), so it's not even readable when viewed
with xpdf.  pdflatex produced a PDF where the text was offset half off the
page to the right.  If you have the spare time to figure out what's going
on, that would be great.  Debian should make a PDF version of the
debian-guide available, at least one we figure out how to make one that
looks right and uses scalable fonts.)

-- 
#define X(x,y) x##y
Peter Cordes ;  e-mail: X([EMAIL PROTECTED] , ns.ca)

"The gods confound the man who first found out how to distinguish the hours!
 Confound him, too, who in this place set up a sundial, to cut and hack
 my day so wretchedly into small pieces!" -- Plautus, 200 BCE


--  
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: dhcp with pcmcia

[Alan Chen]

Can you manually enable your ethernet card using
ifup eth0

I'm using dhcpcd with my internal ethernet.

--Alan


--- Andrew D Dixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi All,
> I'm trying to configure my laptop to use dhcp and I'm running into some
> trouble.
> 
> Formerly it was using a static IP address so I went into /etc/pcmcia and
> edited network.opts deleting all of the static stuff and I added:
> 
>   DHCP="y"
> 
> Now, when I inster my ethernet card I get two beeps, one high and the second
> low (problem).  the LED's on the jack indicate that the connection's OK but
> ifconfig doesn't show an entry for eth0.
> 
> Any help, hints, pointers in the right direction would be greatly
> appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> Andy
> 
> P.S. I'm using pump right now and I'm going to try dhcpcd and dhcp-client.


__
Do You Yahoo!?
Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. 
http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/


--  
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Laptop Recommendations

[Todd V . Rovito]

Just as a warning I started by purchasing a used cheap notebook, it
was a IBM ThinkPad 760EL that I purchased from a used computer store cheap.
The problem is I got addicted to the concept of portable computer and had
to have a newer, faster, and better notebook so I now own a ThinkPad A20M.
The ThinkPad A20M is great and I can not imagine life with out it!  If this
is something you are going to use alot you may want to purchase a new laptop.

Thus spake Peter Cordes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

> On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 04:44:03PM -, Todd Kokoszka wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I'm interested in buying an old laptop and installing Debian on it. What are 
> > people's recommendations?
-- 
Todd V. Rovito
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Carpe Aptenodytes!  "Seize the Penguins!" 


--  
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hot keys on HP Pavilion

[Alan Chen]

I'm trying to get my hot keys to respond on my HP Pavilion. There's a mail key,
a www key, a help key, and a misc key.  I've tried xev and scankey -s and
neither shows any response to keypresses on those buttons.  I'm willing to do
some coding to get them to work eventually, but am at a loss for where to start
looking to start that process.  Can anyone point me in the right direction?

--Alan


__
Do You Yahoo!?
Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. 
http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/


--  
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Laptop Recommendations

[Heather]

> Hi,
> 
> I'm interested in buying an old laptop and installing Debian on it. What are 
> people's recommendations?
> 
> I've been looking at the Dell Latitude XPi P150 and P166. They have an 
> installed CD-ROM and floppy. I've also been looking at the HP Omnibook 
> 800CT, I think with a 150 cpu.

The Omnibook 800CT makes a very happy debian box!  (Personal experience)


* Heather Stern * star@ many places...


--  
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Laptop Recommendations

[Heather]

> Just as a warning I started by purchasing a used cheap notebook, it
> was a IBM ThinkPad 760EL that I purchased from a used computer store cheap.
> The problem is I got addicted to the concept of portable computer and had
> to have a newer, faster, and better notebook so I now own a ThinkPad A20M.
> The ThinkPad A20M is great and I can not imagine life with out it!  If this
> is something you are going to use alot you may want to purchase a new laptop.

Also in the category of general recommendations, just mentally add 1.5 pounds
to whatever they say the silly thing weighs.  Otherwise you'll find that
its carrying case and your power adapter and other toys you enjoy carrying
with it weigh a lot more than you had in mind!

My first laptop was a p60 which ran hot (see "fastest CPU for its time").
It also was quite heavy, which I decided wasn't too bad after a few months
of carrying around the Computer Shopper Guide like it was the JCPenney 
xmas wish book or something.  I didn't realize its power brick was heavy too.
And if I wanted an extra battery, another brick!

And, while it's possible it's a real pain to replace the keyboard.  So if
you can get your hands on the model you're considering, esp. if your hands
are large... it's a good idea to try out a little typing on the beast 
before committing your hands to live with it.

If you get a lightweight with external CD, consider just buying your own
external CD bay, if it's USB driven - you can probably save a bunch;  you
could even get a CDRW instead.  Just surf the iMac aisle comparing the 
optional drive to the iMac boxed products.  Someone I know recently saved 
themselves almost $200 to get a faster drive.

Now, in the category of debian recommendations...

Sound is really popular but lots of our questions are folks trying to spin
up sound the first time; with 3 ways to do it (but only one right per machine)
it really is a pain.  I've seen CS4281's appearing a lot lately and they use
a "normal" kernel module so I would gravitate towards it, if shown a bunch
of otherwise equivalent laptops.

I've not enough experience with the recent video chips to be sure of any good 
ones to really shoot for, (e.g rocking fast X 4 support, etc.) but the ATI 
Mobility family should be a safe bet if you feel lost.

* Heather Stern * star@ many places...


--  
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: SDRAM for Dell Latitude c800

[Jacek M. Wuwer]

> I have a Dell Latitude C800.
> 
> I currently have only 128mb of SDRAM.
> 
> I have been told by some mates of mine that I could just purchase
> 
> generic Laptop SDRAMS eg. 128mb approximately for $100AUD.
> 
> is that true, or do I have to buy DELL specific RAM?
> 
> if anyone has any experience with this, please let me know.

I would consult first the technical documentation on Dell web site, note
what type of memories your model can accept ( Bus clock speed is
important ). With those restrictions you should be able to use generic
SDRAM module. I think C800 may use the same modules as CPx: up to
256MB-100Mhz.

I considered bying a somewhat slower generic 128MB 4 months ago, but at
this time Dell offered it for lower! price ( ~$70 ), so I went fot it. 
I remember I had a problem with generic memory in my old Latitude LM, it
recognised only half of the memory installed, but I managed to return
it. When I bought another pair ( by different manufacturer ) and it
worked fine.   

Jacek


--  
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]