Re: upgrading to 'testing' failure
on Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 11:24:05AM +1100, Brendan Simon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > X will not automatically work for kernels-2.1.18 and 2.4.x. Well it's not ^^^ You mean 2.2.18? -- Karsten M. Self http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org pgprcZXp5d3cQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: upgrading to 'testing' failure
Karsten On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 02:43:54AM -0800, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: > on Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 11:24:05AM +1100, Brendan Simon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > wrote: > > X will not automatically work for kernels-2.1.18 and 2.4.x. Well it's not > ^^^ > You mean 2.2.18? > Yes, I spotted that. I installed a 2.2.18 kernel two weeks ago (with ext3 patched in - although I am not using it yet) provided by Steve McIntyre) and last week I upgraded to Woody with out any problem. XF86-4.0.2 didn't come up straight away - first I had to set the correct driver in the config file - but I had no problems with the devices. I can't see devfsd running. I don't known what the problom is with XF86-4 & 2.2.18. I am waiting to go to 2.4.x for a bit. Alan's best advice if you need stable (and I do on my laptop) is to wait until x.x.5 or x.x.6 which is when the kernel becomes stable on most platforms. Steve -- _ _ _ __| | ___ | |__ | |__ ___ / _ |/ _ \| _ \| _ \ / _ \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | (_| | (_) | |_) | (_) | (_) | [EMAIL PROTECTED] \|\___/|/ \___/ \___/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cron & anacron
Hi! I would like to know what to do with cron & anacron issue. There has allready been some discusion on that topic here, but I am still not sure what to do. Can anacron replace cron or not? Since cron is quite cpu intensive (and battery by that mean) and runs quite often... it is a battery hog for a battery powered device, while on the otherhand anacron only runs when it runs from mains, and conserver power that way... even linux laptop powered says so.. so what should I do, should I remove cron and use solely anacron? I don't have and don't intend to run any of my own background scheduled proceses, just the default system ones... THX in advance! Bostjan -- Boštjan Müller [NEONATUS], [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://neonatus.net/~neonatus For my PGP key finger: [EMAIL PROTECTED], RSA id: 0x90178DBD, ICQ #:7506644 Celular: +386(0)41243189, Powered by Debian GNU/LiNUX , Student of VFUL echo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@@@.net
Re: Network configuration conflicts with PCMCIA ethernet card
Jacob Meuser wrote: > On Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 02:46:05PM -0300, Carlos Menezes wrote: > > Please, > > > > Could someone give me suggestions? I've had some problems when my PCMCIA > > ethernet card is on and I try to connect to my ISP by modem (ppp). I get > > messages like 'Network is unreachable'. My /etc/pcmcia/network.opts file > > set local IP to 10.0.0.2 and I know that pppd assigns a dynamic IP to my > > machine; it seems this is the problem, but how could I > > configurate them correctly? > > Thanks in advance! > > > You need pppd to set up your default gateway. Try 'man pppd' for details. > In Olaf Kirch's book there is a comment that defaultroute option of pppd only creates a default route if there is not one. If I initialize PCMCIA after pppd, all runs; if I initialize pppd after PCMCIA, network is unreachable. Suggestions? Carlos Menezes. > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Friendliest Laptop??
Hi guys. I'm looking at laptops (and drooling a bit ;) and I was wondering if there are any laptops that are friendly to debian... I've come upon the Dell Inspirion 4000 which seems to be the most bang for the bucks but are there any laptops that are friendlier?? Thanks! Yannick
Re: Quick-access buttons on Toshiba 2775XDVD?
Can you provide pointer to TOSHIBA ML? (in English) TIA. On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 12:55:58PM +1100, Drew Parsons wrote: > Are you subscribed to the Toshiba linux mailing list? Somewhere there would > be sure to have your model. -- + Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, GnuPG-key: 1024D/D5DE453D + + Fingerprint: 814E BD64 3288 40E7 E88E 3D92 C3F8 EA94 D5DE 453D + + http://www.aokiconsulting.com/pc/ Cupertino, CA USA +
Re: cron & anacron
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bostjan Muller) writes: > I would like to know what to do with cron & anacron issue. There has allready > been some discusion on that topic here, but I am still not sure what to do. > Can > anacron replace cron or not? > should I remove cron and use solely anacron? I don't have and don't > intend to run any of my own background scheduled proceses, just the default > system ones... On my system, the default big cron jobs are automatically ignored by cron if anacron is install. Here is part of my /etc/crontab: 25 6* * * roottest -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily 47 6* * 7 roottest -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report /etc/cron.weekly 52 61 * * roottest -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report /etc/cron.monthly So don't remove cron. Dan
Re: XF86Setup&XF86Config + gnome doesn't start --solved
X: exec of /usr/bin/X11/XF86_NONE failed... I figured out why x was executing "XF86_NONE" and therefore I installed a package named as "XF86_SVGA" so that x window could use it as default. It did.. anyway, thanks for all your help.. Get your free email with GroupWeb Worldmailer at http://www.worldmailer.com. Send and receive e-mail from any computer with a web browser.
Re: FA510c update
xsdg wrote: > > BTW, I did try pci=biosirq as a kernel option but this only removed the > Did you actually use "pci=biosirq", or did you use "pci=$your_cards_irq"? I used "pci=biosirq" because "biosirq" is, as far as I can tell, a correct value for the option "pci" whereas $your_cards_irq is not. However, my network configuration is now working (see my other message) and I do not need this option anymore. > Also, I attempted to locate all my stuff dealing with the card (it's the only > card): Thanks a lot for your help. Regards, Felix
Re: PCMCIA doesn't work anymore
Drew Parsons wrote: > Bad phrasing. What I meant was that Felix could try setting his BIOS to the > 32-bit Cardbus option. (There are three alternatives: auto, 16-bit and > 32-bit). Thanks for your suggestions. However, the BIOS of my machine (a Thinkpad i1267) does not offer these options, but the good thing is that I don't need them because the card is now working (see my other message). Regards, Felix
Re: FA510c update
"Felix E. Klee" wrote: > today, I compiled a kernel with xdsg's kernel config (the only option > that I removed was the /dev file system support). Now, when I insert my > FA510c network card I still hear a high low beep sequence but the card > is correctly identified by cardctl ident. The error message that I get > is > failed to allocate resource 0 for PCI device 1011:0019 > got res[1080:108003ff] for resource 1 of PCI device 1011:0019 > got res[1040:1043] for resource 6 of PCI device 1011:0019 > PCI: Enabling device 01:00.0 (->0003) > PCI: No IRQ known for interrupt pin A of device 01:00.0. Please try > using pci=biosirq. > > What does that mean? What should I do? Good news: the card is finally working! Today, I downloaded a new version of the PCMCIA package (pcmcia-cs-3.1.24), removed the PCMCIA support in the Kernel (2.4.2) and compiled the PCMCIA modules seperately. All this should also be accomplished by upgrading to the new version of the Bunk-distro (Jacob Meuser recommended that before) which includes kernel version 2.4.2 and pcmcia-cs-3.1.24. It can be retrieved from http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/kernel-24.html. One more thing: I did not have to change any configuration files, everything seems to work out of the box. Felix
Re: upgrading to 'testing' failure
Brendan Simon wrote: > X will not automatically work for kernels-2.1.18 and 2.4.x. Well it's not > directly the kernels fault, it is the new devfs and/or the new input layer > that > causes the problem. Will *not* work for them? I thought it wouldn't work without them, because the generic pointer config has /dev/input/mice. See bug #87854 against makedev, though I may be wrong about solving the problem simply by adding that device node. Does it really need kernel new input layer support? Zeen, -Adam P. GPG fingerprint: D54D 1AEE B11C CE9B A02B C5DD 526F 01E8 564E E4B6 Welcome to the best software in the world today cafe!
Re: cron & anacron
On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 11:25:43AM -0500, Dan Christensen wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bostjan Muller) writes: > On my system, the default big cron jobs are automatically ignored by > cron if anacron is install. Here is part of my /etc/crontab: > > 25 6* * * roottest -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report > /etc/cron.daily > 47 6* * 7 roottest -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report > /etc/cron.weekly > 52 61 * * roottest -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report > /etc/cron.monthly > > So don't remove cron. My system is like that too. You're wrong, though; cron doesn't do anything if anacron is installed. _nothing_, not even run anacron. /usr/sbin/anacron runs as a daemon and does the run-parts stuff. If you check the package dependency, anacron only recomends, not depends on, cron. Go ahead and remove cron. -- #define X(x,y) x##y Peter Cordes ; e-mail: X([EMAIL PROTECTED] , ns.ca) "The gods confound the man who first found out how to distinguish the hours! Confound him, too, who in this place set up a sundial, to cut and hack my day so wretchedly into small pieces!" -- Plautus, 200 BCE
sound blaster configuration??
I haven't figured out how to configure sound in debian, I have read HOWTO and FAQ about configuring sound card but still not found any useful information, How can I configure my Sound Blaster 16 in debian ?? Get your free email with GroupWeb Worldmailer at http://www.worldmailer.com. Send and receive e-mail from any computer with a web browser.
Re: cron & anacron
Peter Cordes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 11:25:43AM -0500, Dan Christensen wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bostjan Muller) writes: > > On my system, the default big cron jobs are automatically ignored by > > cron if anacron is install. Here is part of my /etc/crontab: > > > > 25 6* * * roottest -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report > > /etc/cron.daily > > 47 6* * 7 roottest -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report > > /etc/cron.weekly > > 52 61 * * roottest -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report > > /etc/cron.monthly > > > > So don't remove cron. > > My system is like that too. You're wrong, though; cron doesn't do > anything if anacron is installed. _nothing_, not even run anacron. > ... > Go ahead and remove cron. On my system there are a lot of files in /etc/cron.d which cron *does* process, even though I have anacron installed. So I think my advice is sound, unless Bostjan has an installation with nothing in that directory. My only point was that removing cron wouldn't accomplish anything that Bostjan wanted, and would have the potential of removing functionality. Dan
Re: upgrading to 'testing' failure
on Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 11:24:05AM +1100, Brendan Simon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > X will not automatically work for kernels-2.1.18 and 2.4.x. Well it's not ^^^ You mean 2.2.18? -- Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org PGP signature
Re: upgrading to 'testing' failure
Karsten On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 02:43:54AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > on Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 11:24:05AM +1100, Brendan Simon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) >wrote: > > X will not automatically work for kernels-2.1.18 and 2.4.x. Well it's not > ^^^ > You mean 2.2.18? > Yes, I spotted that. I installed a 2.2.18 kernel two weeks ago (with ext3 patched in - although I am not using it yet) provided by Steve McIntyre) and last week I upgraded to Woody with out any problem. XF86-4.0.2 didn't come up straight away - first I had to set the correct driver in the config file - but I had no problems with the devices. I can't see devfsd running. I don't known what the problom is with XF86-4 & 2.2.18. I am waiting to go to 2.4.x for a bit. Alan's best advice if you need stable (and I do on my laptop) is to wait until x.x.5 or x.x.6 which is when the kernel becomes stable on most platforms. Steve -- _ _ _ __| | ___ | |__ | |__ ___ / _ |/ _ \| _ \| _ \ / _ \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | (_| | (_) | |_) | (_) | (_) | [EMAIL PROTECTED] \|\___/|/ \___/ \___/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cron & anacron
Hi! I would like to know what to do with cron & anacron issue. There has allready been some discusion on that topic here, but I am still not sure what to do. Can anacron replace cron or not? Since cron is quite cpu intensive (and battery by that mean) and runs quite often... it is a battery hog for a battery powered device, while on the otherhand anacron only runs when it runs from mains, and conserver power that way... even linux laptop powered says so.. so what should I do, should I remove cron and use solely anacron? I don't have and don't intend to run any of my own background scheduled proceses, just the default system ones... THX in advance! Bostjan -- Boštjan Müller [NEONATUS], [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://neonatus.net/~neonatus For my PGP key finger: [EMAIL PROTECTED], RSA id: 0x90178DBD, ICQ #:7506644 Celular: +386(0)41243189, Powered by Debian GNU/LiNUX , Student of VFUL echo neonatus@!#:1:s@\@@@.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Network configuration conflicts with PCMCIA ethernet card
Jacob Meuser wrote: > On Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 02:46:05PM -0300, Carlos Menezes wrote: > > Please, > > > > Could someone give me suggestions? I've had some problems when my PCMCIA ethernet >card is on and I try to connect to my ISP by modem (ppp). I get messages like >'Network is unreachable'. My /etc/pcmcia/network.opts file set local IP to 10.0.0.2 >and I know that pppd assigns a dynamic IP to my machine; it seems this is the >problem, but how could I > > configurate them correctly? > > Thanks in advance! > > > You need pppd to set up your default gateway. Try 'man pppd' for details. > In Olaf Kirch's book there is a comment that defaultroute option of pppd only creates a default route if there is not one. If I initialize PCMCIA after pppd, all runs; if I initialize pppd after PCMCIA, network is unreachable. Suggestions? Carlos Menezes. > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Friendliest Laptop??
Hi guys. I'm looking at laptops (and drooling a bit ;) and I was wondering if there are any laptops that are friendly to debian... I've come upon the Dell Inspirion 4000 which seems to be the most bang for the bucks but are there any laptops that are friendlier?? Thanks! Yannick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Quick-access buttons on Toshiba 2775XDVD?
Can you provide pointer to TOSHIBA ML? (in English) TIA. On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 12:55:58PM +1100, Drew Parsons wrote: > Are you subscribed to the Toshiba linux mailing list? Somewhere there would > be sure to have your model. -- + Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, GnuPG-key: 1024D/D5DE453D + + Fingerprint: 814E BD64 3288 40E7 E88E 3D92 C3F8 EA94 D5DE 453D + + http://www.aokiconsulting.com/pc/ Cupertino, CA USA + -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cron & anacron
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bostjan Muller) writes: > I would like to know what to do with cron & anacron issue. There has allready > been some discusion on that topic here, but I am still not sure what to do. Can > anacron replace cron or not? > should I remove cron and use solely anacron? I don't have and don't > intend to run any of my own background scheduled proceses, just the default > system ones... On my system, the default big cron jobs are automatically ignored by cron if anacron is install. Here is part of my /etc/crontab: 25 6* * * roottest -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily 47 6* * 7 roottest -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report /etc/cron.weekly 52 61 * * roottest -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report /etc/cron.monthly So don't remove cron. Dan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XF86Setup&XF86Config + gnome doesn't start --solved
X: exec of /usr/bin/X11/XF86_NONE failed... I figured out why x was executing "XF86_NONE" and therefore I installed a package named as "XF86_SVGA" so that x window could use it as default. It did.. anyway, thanks for all your help.. Get your free email with GroupWeb Worldmailer at http://www.worldmailer.com. Send and receive e-mail from any computer with a web browser. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FA510c update
xsdg wrote: > > BTW, I did try pci=biosirq as a kernel option but this only removed the > Did you actually use "pci=biosirq", or did you use "pci=$your_cards_irq"? I used "pci=biosirq" because "biosirq" is, as far as I can tell, a correct value for the option "pci" whereas $your_cards_irq is not. However, my network configuration is now working (see my other message) and I do not need this option anymore. > Also, I attempted to locate all my stuff dealing with the card (it's the only card): Thanks a lot for your help. Regards, Felix -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PCMCIA doesn't work anymore
Drew Parsons wrote: > Bad phrasing. What I meant was that Felix could try setting his BIOS to the > 32-bit Cardbus option. (There are three alternatives: auto, 16-bit and > 32-bit). Thanks for your suggestions. However, the BIOS of my machine (a Thinkpad i1267) does not offer these options, but the good thing is that I don't need them because the card is now working (see my other message). Regards, Felix -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FA510c update
"Felix E. Klee" wrote: > today, I compiled a kernel with xdsg's kernel config (the only option > that I removed was the /dev file system support). Now, when I insert my > FA510c network card I still hear a high low beep sequence but the card > is correctly identified by cardctl ident. The error message that I get > is > failed to allocate resource 0 for PCI device 1011:0019 > got res[1080:108003ff] for resource 1 of PCI device 1011:0019 > got res[1040:1043] for resource 6 of PCI device 1011:0019 > PCI: Enabling device 01:00.0 (->0003) > PCI: No IRQ known for interrupt pin A of device 01:00.0. Please try > using pci=biosirq. > > What does that mean? What should I do? Good news: the card is finally working! Today, I downloaded a new version of the PCMCIA package (pcmcia-cs-3.1.24), removed the PCMCIA support in the Kernel (2.4.2) and compiled the PCMCIA modules seperately. All this should also be accomplished by upgrading to the new version of the Bunk-distro (Jacob Meuser recommended that before) which includes kernel version 2.4.2 and pcmcia-cs-3.1.24. It can be retrieved from http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/kernel-24.html. One more thing: I did not have to change any configuration files, everything seems to work out of the box. Felix -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: upgrading to 'testing' failure
Brendan Simon wrote: > X will not automatically work for kernels-2.1.18 and 2.4.x. Well it's not > directly the kernels fault, it is the new devfs and/or the new input layer that > causes the problem. Will *not* work for them? I thought it wouldn't work without them, because the generic pointer config has /dev/input/mice. See bug #87854 against makedev, though I may be wrong about solving the problem simply by adding that device node. Does it really need kernel new input layer support? Zeen, -Adam P. GPG fingerprint: D54D 1AEE B11C CE9B A02B C5DD 526F 01E8 564E E4B6 Welcome to the best software in the world today cafe! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cron & anacron
On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 11:25:43AM -0500, Dan Christensen wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bostjan Muller) writes: > On my system, the default big cron jobs are automatically ignored by > cron if anacron is install. Here is part of my /etc/crontab: > > 25 6* * * roottest -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report >/etc/cron.daily > 47 6* * 7 roottest -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report >/etc/cron.weekly > 52 61 * * roottest -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report >/etc/cron.monthly > > So don't remove cron. My system is like that too. You're wrong, though; cron doesn't do anything if anacron is installed. _nothing_, not even run anacron. /usr/sbin/anacron runs as a daemon and does the run-parts stuff. If you check the package dependency, anacron only recomends, not depends on, cron. Go ahead and remove cron. -- #define X(x,y) x##y Peter Cordes ; e-mail: X([EMAIL PROTECTED] , ns.ca) "The gods confound the man who first found out how to distinguish the hours! Confound him, too, who in this place set up a sundial, to cut and hack my day so wretchedly into small pieces!" -- Plautus, 200 BCE -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
sound blaster configuration??
I haven't figured out how to configure sound in debian, I have read HOWTO and FAQ about configuring sound card but still not found any useful information, How can I configure my Sound Blaster 16 in debian ?? Get your free email with GroupWeb Worldmailer at http://www.worldmailer.com. Send and receive e-mail from any computer with a web browser. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cron & anacron
Peter Cordes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 11:25:43AM -0500, Dan Christensen wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bostjan Muller) writes: > > On my system, the default big cron jobs are automatically ignored by > > cron if anacron is install. Here is part of my /etc/crontab: > > > > 25 6* * * roottest -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report >/etc/cron.daily > > 47 6* * 7 roottest -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report >/etc/cron.weekly > > 52 61 * * roottest -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report >/etc/cron.monthly > > > > So don't remove cron. > > My system is like that too. You're wrong, though; cron doesn't do > anything if anacron is installed. _nothing_, not even run anacron. > ... > Go ahead and remove cron. On my system there are a lot of files in /etc/cron.d which cron *does* process, even though I have anacron installed. So I think my advice is sound, unless Bostjan has an installation with nothing in that directory. My only point was that removing cron wouldn't accomplish anything that Bostjan wanted, and would have the potential of removing functionality. Dan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help: Dell Inspiron 5000e X-Windows
Thanks for everybody. I finally set up the X-windows. I upgrade it to XFree86 4.0.x. But while installing, I found myself in a evil circularity due to dpkg doing interdependency, because I installed locale-zh. While the 3.3.x was removed and 4.0.x installed, the config file remains to be the older one and the new version could not get configured. I had to reinstall the whole system all over and tried not install other possibly conflicting packages at the first step. Maybe there is a better way to do that. If there is, please let me know. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
