Re: Stolen laptop - how to increase security?
> On my Thinkpad I have a sticker that clearly says "Does Not Run Windows". My (main) laptop has a debian 1" x 1" square tab next to the Ricoh OEM logo, and another 1" "tux the penguin" OEM tab elsewhere on the machine. It doesn't -say- that it doesn't run windows... but it doesn't, that's true, and I don't even have a wm layout that looks like MSwin, nor default to X. (on a P-233? really, not. Even an MMX. waste of time, when most of what I do on there is take notes or tweak web pages in vi.) The idea of explicitly *stating* that it doesn't run windows is interesting, though... (there. now it's about debian laptops ;P ) > Some years ago I was at a users' group meeting and a woman described how her > house was burgled. She lost her TV ($300), her VCR ($400), and her new > computer ($3000) was turned on and sitting at the LILO prompt. Apparently > when the machine didn't boot Windows the thieves decided it wasn't worth > taking! This is at least an argument for having your bootloader stop at the bootloader prompt, rather than mosey onwards into a colorful XDM login. > I believe that thieves lack the skill to install Windows on a Thinkpad > (installing software on a laptop is a bitch even if you know what you are > doing). Therefore a laptop that doesn't run windows can't be sold. Gosh, if that's all it takes, a CMOS password ought to be enough - can't tell if it runs windows or not! ;D Seriously - I have a windows box around (for testing samba) and with BootGUI=0 it stays at DOS until I tell it to go onward. I never thought of this as anything towards thieves, I just like to sometimes check file states before and after a test, and that's the easy way to know MSwin hasn't mucked around yet. I think it's much more important to have your identity carved into the box, and a well manicured business card firmly strapped to it, so it's easy to return, but will look beaten and abused if these are removed. Anything else you can do to customize the software (that you would ordinarily anyway) may help, as it may help make it clear that it would take some sort of Magic to de-personalize the thing for sale, to a sufficiently non-techie thief. To further make the example, I customized the windows startup screen (which you do get if you type win) so it has an image I raster-painted, and mentions my business. Worth noting: On this box, (also a thinkpad) there is a utility for burning your bizcard data into the BIOS boot screen. Since you mention that yours is a thinkpad, you should look into using that. Even if you have to boot into a DOS disk to use the silly thing. Has anyone gotten back their lost machine in such a way that indicates any of their precautions led thieves to not try to fence it? *Those* are what we need to know ... the stuff that works! * Heather Stern * star@ many places...
Re: advice on upgrading hard drive and cpu of laptop
[Charset iso-8859-1 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...] > On Friday 05 January 2001 08:50, Dan Christensen wrote: > > First, the hard drive: the main reason I want to upgrade is to get > > something faster. My HD is a 6G Hitachi that came with my Vivante > > when I bought it almost two years ago. I find it to be very slow. > > Can anyone recommend a faster drive, which is also relatively energy > > efficient? 8 to 9G would be perfect. Can anyone guess how many rpm > > my drive would be? I can't find this in any of the docs. Will any > > 2.5" IDE drive work? > > All the 2.5" IDE drives are supposed to be compatible (which doesn't mean > that they will be). Every time I encountered a machine that looked like its 2.5" drive wasn't, it's turned out to have a tiny adaptor that converted the Weird Proprietary Pinout Inside The Laptop to a standard 2.5" IDE. It may be difficult to remove, the way many power adaptors on desktop hard drives act like they've bonded for life... but usually once you see the dividing line, all it takes is the right gentle nudge or tweak. > If you buy from a large store you should be able to buy on the basis that it > will work in your machine and the store will take the risk that it doesn't > work. > > Laptop drives are slow. They are slow because they are engineered for small > size and resistance to shock rather than performance. They are also slow > because laptops have slow IO buses and can't handle full performance on > modern drives. Also, getting a faster, more capable drive will not speed up your motherboard's basic bus speed, which is usually one of the first sacrifices in the name of efficiency for making a motherboard fit a laptop form factor. If that's your problem there's nothing you can do... for the disk. Now, if you max out the memory you provide, you could easily make the difference serve you as disk cache and as a ramdisk, to lots of speed improvement :) > A drive with a higher spin rate will have greater force on it's bearings when > you tilt it. This isn't a big deal for desktop machines which don't move > much. It is a serious issue for laptops which get used on trains! Generally if a company bothers to make the drives in 2.5" form factor, this is usu. something they account for ... but, the larger capacity drives are fairly new, so we also have little evidence for whether they are weaker this way, or even burn out faster. I'm not sure you can find any of the same size that won't be the same vintage and therefore the same putzy speed. I use a PCMCIA-IDE bay to attach extra drives, but what I put inside the laptop is always rated for real laptop use. The PCMCIA/IDE cable on the blinkylight bay is bulkier than the widget I used to carry, so I rarely use it except at a desk or coffeeshop anyway. > If your hard drive is slow then install more RAM for better caching. Yes. > > My CPU is a Celeron 300. I chose this because it was inexpensive and > > doesn't consume much power, but now I'd like a bit more speed, maybe > > 50 to 100% more. Would something like a Celeron 500 be a good option? > > Or a Pentium? Or something from AMD? Will any mobile chip fit into > > my motherboard? How will the energy use of a modern 500MHz cpu > > compare with that of a two year old Celeron 300? > > Replacing a CPU requires totally disassembling the machine. If something > goes wrong you can't get replacement parts (laptops are known for breaking > when you disassemble them). You may end up with a dead machine if you take > it apart. > A Celeron 300 is a good enough machine that it's not something you want to > risk losing, I recommend not trying to upgrade it. Try upgrading it in 2-3 > years time when it's just a toy and you don't care if it dies! I mentioned elsewhere, my day to day laptop is a 233 MMX. It works fine. Of course, I have 96 Mb RAM and use it! I also have the advantage that my depot is still available to help me, and I don't even bother loading up X unless I need it. Worth considering if your apps are too disk hungry and could stand a tune up themselves. If you still have service available for the laptop, you could purchase a new drive rated for laptop use, then pay them merely for the labor to install it. Likewise memory... though it's a lot harder to get the right memory for a laptop, blind. A big risk of trying too much of a faster processor is that the motherboard may have er, sacrificed, something in its layout and not be able to handle a faster chip. In a worst case, it could fry the CPU socket, and then it's a doorstop :( The CPU is the *last* thing I'd bother upgrading unless it has an easy-access slot. If it does have such a slot, then your CPU is in a type of "package" and you should be able to purchase a faster package of the same type, up to however fast that package got... if you can find an OEM or repair depot that still sells that package. There's a chance you have the fastest package of the
RE: Stolen laptop - how to increase security?
> -Original Message- > From: Hubert Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > Hubert Chan > Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 6:47 PM > To: debian-laptop@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Stolen laptop - how to increase security? > [...] > You missed the, IMHO, most effective/important/simple method: get a laptop > lock. Almost all (if not all) of the new laptops come with a slot for the > lock, and if yours doesn't have one, most locks come with a kit > to add a slot. My laptop was not new, and it was a second hand one. I agree that having a lock would be one of the best idea. But this doesn't apply to unsecure environment (e.g. working in 'alien' location). > One of Targus' Defcon locks even has a motion sensor, so you > don't have to lock it up to a secure place, if you don't have one around. This seems cool. > The only drawback that I can think of is that it takes a couple > extra seconds > to set up or pack up your laptop. Just make sure that the cable > you get is > resistant to cutting (i.e. don't tie your laptop up with a shoelace). > > Jérôme> use a BIOS password. This can apparently be reset > depending on the > Jérôme> type. Jumper reset, use of a BIOS reseter, etc... > > If you use a BIOS password/boot loader security, ADVERTISE IT! > Paste a sticker > (or tape a piece of paper) on the top of your laptop, saying > something like, > "WARNING: This laptop is password protected. The password can > only be removed by an authorized [manufacturer's name] technician presented with proof of > ownership. So don't even think of stealing it, because it won't > do you any good." Your primary goal is to prevent your laptop from being > stolen in the first place. Your secondary goal is to recover it after it is stolen. This seems good except that if I am a guy stealing the laptop, I won't take the time to read the dman message. It takes less than 15 seconds to enter an office, unplug the machine put it in a bag and leave. So if I reads the message at home, I might just throw the machine away... > Other tips: > > - - paste your name/ph#/address onto your laptop. So if someone > finds it, they can contact you. It probably doesn't really add much security, > since the person who steals your laptop can just remove it, but it > doesn't take much time to do. (Make sure you remember to update it if you move, though.) > > - - if you don't mind marking up a piece of equipment worth > several thousand dollars, make sure your laptop has some distinguishing feature > that is easily recognizable. Mine has a bunch of stickers pasted on it. Not > only does it make your laptop easier to recognize, my guess is that people > would be less likely to steal it. Thanks for the good ideas. I had my business card attached to the device, but I guess that it has been quickly removed... Next time I stick one or two of these under the keyboard, inside the machine (on the hard disk), etc... If this machine ever gets to a repair office, I might get the machine back. Jerome
RE: Stolen laptop - how to increase security?
> I once ran across an old DOS utility that did something like > this. IIRC It > embedded itself into the bootsector and upon a certain keycombe it would > throw a serial number onto the screen and play an audio code through the > speaker (in case th monitor was no longer usable for whatever > reason). You > were supposed to register the serial number with the company that produced > the utility. I think I still have the disk somewhere - I'll see if I can > locate it. I am really interested in setting up a system that catches the stealer while in the act of stealing. I didn't find (yet) any system that does that. I was thinking of something like that: What about setting a system such as when the laptop is unused for a while, instead of using normal apm service and suspend the machine, makes it run an xlock, disable the apm services in a way such that they do not suspend the machine automatically and start a 'laptop-protection daemon'. When the xlock disappears, the daemon is stopped and the apm services are restarted (so you might use the apm services yourself). In the case somebody unpluggs the machine while under the xlock (without giving the password), then the daemon would detect it and could start doing some preventive action, such as: - playing a sound with maximum volume saying "I am getting stolen". - this daemon could also register to a fixed local server and do a ping every now and then. If the ping stops before the daemon unregister to the server, then server then can take other actions, such as sending SMS message, starting a video camera, in the room, etc. - other thing ? The apm services down would make the stealer unable to use the hot keys to suspend/stop the machine, isn't it? This can easily be set in place I think. What do you think of that? I don't think it is difficult to write. > > I would appreciate any idea that could help us to increase our security. > > This idea might not decrease the odds of the laptop being stolen, but it > will increase the chances of getting it back. Open up the machine and > engrave some sort of ID (driver's license number, SSN, whatever) onto a > couple of places *inside* the case. If your floppy / CDROM drives are the > easily removable type, engrave them too (carefully, please). OK.
Re: Parallel Printer Port Problem
Hello, On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, Jeffrey S. Coppock wrote: > Jan 4 07:36:20 localhost kernel: parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778), irq 7, > dma 3 [SPP,ECP,ECPPS2] > Jan 4 07:36:21 localhost kernel: parport_probe: succeeded > Jan 4 07:36:21 localhost kernel: parport0: Printer, HEWLETT-PACKARD DESKJET > 950C > Jan 4 07:36:21 localhost kernel: lp0: using parport0 (interrupt-driven). > I've re-installed magicfilter, but that didn't help either. Does it print if you run the following command: echo "this is a test">/dev/lp0 If it doesn't, take another look to the log's for errors. If it does, there's something wrong with your magicfilter config Greetz, Jo
hard disk drive
Hello all-- I need some help from someone who has used docking stations. I have a Compaq LTE Elite laptop with the Compaq smart-station. I have added an additional hard-disk to the docking station, and would like to access this additional hard-disk via the docking station. The additional Hard disk is desk-top EIDE hard-drive and I tried configuring it as the Primary master as well as the Slave but I get the message "unable to open device" when I try to do a fdisk on the new disk, it appears the diskette is recognised as /dev/hdb Can anyone help me!! Thanks, Praveen
Re: Stolen laptop - how to increase security?
Regarding the laptop-protection daemon.. > In the case somebody unpluggs the machine while under the xlock (without > giving the password), then the daemon would detect it and could start doing > some preventive action, such as: > - playing a sound with maximum volume saying "I am getting stolen". "I am getting stolen. Please plug the power back in! I have contacted the police on my wireless modem, and told them my GPS coordinates. They already have your fingerprints." -- Paul Schulz, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Foursticks Systems Pty Ltd, http://www.foursticks.com.au 2/259 Glen Osmond Road, FREWVILLE South Australia 5063 Phone +61 8 8338 5500, Fax +61 8 8338 5511, Mob +61 401 981 301
Re: Stolen laptop - how to increase security?
> bother to answer the questions as my nice little laptop disappeared from my > office yesterday while I was at home due to flooding in my apartment. Bad > day :( Ugh. Bad day, indeed. Some months ago in response to workplace theft warnings (apparently there are thieves who specialize in slipping into office buildings and walking away with laptops, purses, etc.), I got one of those little cable locking devices. (Most laptops have a little slot made for this purpose.) It takes about 30 seconds to snap into place and makes it impossible to quickly walk away with the laptop. It won't stop a determined thief with the time to unscrew the legs of the desk or one that wanders around with a substantial pair of wire cutters in hand, but I feel pretty secure leaving the laptop on my desk while I go to meetings or lunch. Be seeing you, norm -- Norman Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | We dance around in a ring and suppose, http://nwalsh.com/| but the Secret sits in the middle and | knows.--Robert Frost
Re: hard disk drive
G'Day !
Are you saying that fdisk recognizes your new hd as /dev/hdb, but you can not mount it ?
Once in fdisk ... Did you partition the drive ? Did you create a filesystem on those new partitions ? Did you use the mount command to access the drive ("mount -t ext2 /dev/hdb1" as root) ?
Does anyone know how to do it in windows (is it a secondary slave, or maybe a secondary master ? ), it should be similar, as far as the hardware is concerned.
cheers,
Jim Parker
Sailboat racing is not a matter of life and death It is far more important than that !!!
Kamath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
01/05/01 02:43 AM
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Subject: hard disk drive
Hello all--
I need some help from someone who has used docking stations. I have a
Compaq LTE Elite laptop with the Compaq smart-station. I have added an
additional hard-disk to the docking station, and would like to access this
additional hard-disk via the docking station.
The additional Hard disk is desk-top EIDE hard-drive and I tried
configuring it as the Primary master as well as the Slave but I get the
message "unable to open device" when I try to do a fdisk on the new disk,
it appears the diskette is recognised as /dev/hdb
Can anyone help me!!
Thanks,
Praveen
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Hello all
I would just like to introduce myself. I am new to this group and pretty new to Linux also. I can definetly see myself going to Linux full time very shortly, after everything I have is compatible. I do have a laptop problem though.. I have an NEC Versa 5080x, thankfully everything is supported except for my Linksys Etherfast 10/100 PCMCIA card. I get the error pcnet_cs unable to read hardware address 0x300 or 0x340 depending on which slot it is in. anyway - that wasn't the best introduction, but it works.. freaker _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: Hello all
On Fri, 5 Jan 2001, freaker <<< wrote: > > I would just like to introduce myself. I am new to this group and pretty > new to Linux also. I can definetly see myself going to Linux full time very > shortly, after everything I have is compatible. > when I got my laptop it took me a month to get to 98% linux only. The final two percent was movie and game stuff. Now I'm 99.98% linux, since I can play all the movies I want under linux now and game wise I've found bzflag and xpilot :) And for the curious the 0.02% is a 32Mb DOS partition with partition magic/spfdisk/norton commander and elite frontier :) Its also currently unbootable, I haven't gotten around to making it bootable as I haven't needed it :) > I do have a laptop problem though.. > I have an NEC Versa 5080x, thankfully everything is supported except for my > Linksys Etherfast 10/100 PCMCIA card. I get the error pcnet_cs unable to > read hardware address 0x300 or 0x340 depending on which slot it is in. > The linksys card you have is ment to be one of the best pcmcia cards you can get (in respect to linux). And the error you are getting leads me to concluding that you actually have a IRQ/IO problem. Before you play with the card type "cat /proc/ioports" and "cat /proc/interupts". Find out what devices have already taken your resources. Is there anything at 0x300 or 0x340 already? IF there is then this is the problem. To fix the problem you need to edit /etc/pcmcia/pcmcia.con (if I remember) and tell the drivers to steer clean of using this resource and to find something else. I hope this helps you > anyway - that wasn't the best introduction, but it works.. > I'm sure we will cope :) Alex
Re: hard disk drive
thanks for the response.
I tried mounting the disk as hdb, hdb1 etc... but it wouldn't mount. I get
the error device not configured.
I tried making a filesystem too, but even that gives the same error as
device not configured.
I tried the hard0drive jumper settings as a primary-master as well as the
primary slave.
The disk is an enhanced IDE drive. are there any special drivers needed
for accessing EIDE drives in linux??
and if so where can i get these drivers?
in windows I am not sure how the whole set-up works I have contacted
compaq support but there arent too very hepl ful. they say the model is
out-dated (Compaq LTE Elite, and the dock is compaq Smartstation). and I
am not sure of the interface(what sort?? looks like SCSI to me or maybe
PCMCIA type III) the computer uses to attach to the docking bay.
any help will be appreciated.
thanks,
praveen kamath
On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> G'Day !
>
> Are you saying that fdisk recognizes your new hd as /dev/hdb, but you can
> not mount it ?
>
> Once in fdisk ... Did you partition the drive ? Did you create a
> filesystem on those new partitions ? Did you use the mount command to
> access the drive ("mount -t ext2 /dev/hdb1" as root) ?
>
> Does anyone know how to do it in windows (is it a secondary slave, or
> maybe a secondary master ? ), it should be similar, as far as the hardware
> is concerned.
>
> cheers,
> Jim Parker
>
> Sailboat racing is not a matter of life and death It is far more
> important than that !!!
>
>
>
>
> Kamath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 01/05/01 02:43 AM
>
>
> To: debian-laptop@lists.debian.org
> cc:
> Subject:hard disk drive
>
> Hello all--
>
> I need some help from someone who has used docking stations. I have a
> Compaq LTE Elite laptop with the Compaq smart-station. I have added an
> additional hard-disk to the docking station, and would like to access this
> additional hard-disk via the docking station.
>
> The additional Hard disk is desk-top EIDE hard-drive and I tried
> configuring it as the Primary master as well as the Slave but I get the
> message "unable to open device" when I try to do a fdisk on the new disk,
> it appears the diskette is recognised as /dev/hdb
>
> Can anyone help me!!
>
>
> Thanks,
> Praveen
>
>
>
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Re: Stolen laptop - how to increase security?
> Regarding the laptop-protection daemon.. > > > In the case somebody unpluggs the machine while under the xlock (without > > giving the password), then the daemon would detect it and could start doing > > some preventive action, such as: > > - playing a sound with maximum volume saying "I am getting stolen". > > "I am getting stolen. Please plug the power back in! > > I have contacted the police on my wireless modem, > and told them my GPS coordinates. > > They already have your fingerprints." Hmm, hard to tell if this was for grins, or serious... I can see it either way. [These are examples, not real, but...] Errr, so the building's power goes out because some dork across the city ran his truck into a pole, and every laptop whose owner was in a meeting starts crying "eek" or whatever. At the top of its speaker range of course. Errr(2) so there I am at the coffee house and they decide to tell us that it's closing time by flipping the power off for a minute or two til everyone shuts up. My machine had gotten "sleepy" only a moment before because I was watching a chess game, and... Errr(3) unbeknownst to you, somebody in the next apartment over decides to plug their new microwave into a weak, shared circuit. -bzzt/pop- Since apartment walls are so thin they may as well be subwoofers, 6 different apartments (or more) hear the machine falsely cry out. Some of them surely are on the affected circuit too and clue in... but only one of them has to call 911 to make it all a major pain in the butt. (Plainer phones get their power from the phone line, you only need wall power for 900 MHz, speed dials and like that.) The wisdom of owning a laptop in a cheap apartment complex is a different matter, though you had hoped to protect your investment with some software tricks. Now all your neighbors know about your laptop :( [end example section] I can tell you, these wouldn't happen twice... Some sort of delay in the software would be wise. The first sound byte should just be something at local-volume level, "Warning! Power Lost! Please plug me back in!" Failure to respond with the password (whether or not you restore power) leads to the rest of the sequence. * Heather Stern * star@ many places...
Re: advice on upgrading hard drive and cpu of laptop
I checked the lap-top. the CPU is mounted on some kind of board, and then the board is mounted on some kind of socket.. I am fairly new to hard-ware manipulations as this, but have worked before on archaic intel 8085 8086 chips and is this Athlon 150 Mhz 5x86 chip supported in Linux?? Thanks, Praveen Kamath On Fri, 5 Jan 2001, Russell Coker wrote: > On Friday 05 January 2001 14:25, Kamath wrote: > > I think you are speaking something of what I am looking for here!! > > I have been thinking seriously about upgrading my lap-top, which has > > survived long... > > I have a "toy" 486 lap-top (486 DX4 75 Mhz to be precise) And how can I > > upgrade the processor etc on this please!! > > > > My laptop is a Compaq LTE Elite 4/75 CX > > > > any places where I can get info on how to upgrade this lap-top?? from 486 > > to say a reasonable speed pentium processor?? > > The main criteria is whether the CPU is socketed or soldered onto the > motherboard. If it's soldered in then there's nothing you can do. If it's > socketed then you can find a better CPU that fits the socket. > > AMD used to sell 5x86 CPUs that went in 486 sockets and were considerably > faster than 486 CPUs. You could probably get a 5x86 at 150MHz to fit in the > same socket which would be 4 times faster if you can find one. They haven't > been sold new for years so it'll take a bit of luck to find one. > > -- > http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark > http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark > http://www.coker.com.au/projects.html Projects I am working on > http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Re: hard disk drive
G'Day !
I'm interested in what happened in your fdisk session. Where you able to create partitions ? Could you "save" your work on the partition table ?
"Device not configured" is also curious ... I wonder if you need to specify the disk geometry to lilo (I'm guessing here) I would look at the problem like it was a partition table problem. You did something right if fdisk can see it.
I'm not real familiar with laptops ... I'd be more help on a desktop/server system. Perhaps someone like Heather would be able to help you more.
cheers,
Jim Parker
Sailboat racing is not a matter of life and death It is far more important than that !!!
Kamath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
01/05/01 11:36 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc: debian-laptop@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: hard disk drive
thanks for the response.
I tried mounting the disk as hdb, hdb1 etc... but it wouldn't mount. I get
the error device not configured.
I tried making a filesystem too, but even that gives the same error as
device not configured.
I tried the hard0drive jumper settings as a primary-master as well as the
primary slave.
The disk is an enhanced IDE drive. are there any special drivers needed
for accessing EIDE drives in linux??
and if so where can i get these drivers?
in windows I am not sure how the whole set-up works I have contacted
compaq support but there arent too very hepl ful. they say the model is
out-dated (Compaq LTE Elite, and the dock is compaq Smartstation). and I
am not sure of the interface(what sort?? looks like SCSI to me or maybe
PCMCIA type III) the computer uses to attach to the docking bay.
any help will be appreciated.
thanks,
praveen kamath
On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> G'Day !
>
> Are you saying that fdisk recognizes your new hd as /dev/hdb, but you can
> not mount it ?
>
> Once in fdisk ... Did you partition the drive ? Did you create a
> filesystem on those new partitions ? Did you use the mount command to
> access the drive ("mount -t ext2 /dev/hdb1" as root) ?
>
> Does anyone know how to do it in windows (is it a secondary slave, or
> maybe a secondary master ? ), it should be similar, as far as the hardware
> is concerned.
>
> cheers,
> Jim Parker
>
> Sailboat racing is not a matter of life and death It is far more
> important than that !!!
>
>
>
>
> Kamath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 01/05/01 02:43 AM
>
>
> To: debian-laptop@lists.debian.org
> cc:
> Subject: hard disk drive
>
> Hello all--
>
> I need some help from someone who has used docking stations. I have a
> Compaq LTE Elite laptop with the Compaq smart-station. I have added an
> additional hard-disk to the docking station, and would like to access this
> additional hard-disk via the docking station.
>
> The additional Hard disk is desk-top EIDE hard-drive and I tried
> configuring it as the Primary master as well as the Slave but I get the
> message "unable to open device" when I try to do a fdisk on the new disk,
> it appears the diskette is recognised as /dev/hdb
>
> Can anyone help me!!
>
>
> Thanks,
> Praveen
>
>
>
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Re: advice on upgrading hard drive and cpu of laptop
On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 02:47:43PM -0500, Kamath wrote: > and is this Athlon 150 Mhz 5x86 chip supported in Linux?? AMD, not Athlon. I have an old 133 MHz 5x86 that runs Linux without problems. -- Lee Bradshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas Instruments[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: hard disk drive
when the computer boots up I dont see the new hard-disk drive. i am
assuming the same as you too, i.e. fdisk/mkfs needs disk geometry(number
of blocks)
but i haven't really had the time to look at the hard-disk and calculate
the number of blocks from the information on the hard-disk drive. but i
will definitely try it out.
I am not sure as you put it. "if fdisk is properly seeing /dev/hdb" ...
but the other disks like /dev/hdc, hdd etc... give a disk not found error.
when i do a more on other drives, like /dev/hdb, hdc ..etc
i get the same error device not found ... (because there are no devices
attached, which is natural)
(more /dev/hdc for example)
BUT for more /dev/hdb I get the error device not configured.
any clues on this one??
And I have sent an email to the Star :)
thanks,
Praveen
On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> G'Day !
>
> I'm interested in what happened in your fdisk session. Where you able to
> create partitions ? Could you "save" your work on the partition table ?
>
> "Device not configured" is also curious ... I wonder if you need to
> specify the disk geometry to lilo (I'm guessing here) I would look
> at the problem like it was a partition table problem. You did something
> right if fdisk can see it.
>
> I'm not real familiar with laptops ... I'd be more help on a
> desktop/server system. Perhaps someone like Heather would be able to help
> you more.
>
> cheers,
> Jim Parker
>
> Sailboat racing is not a matter of life and death It is far more
> important than that !!!
>
>
>
>
> Kamath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 01/05/01 11:36 AM
>
>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> cc: debian-laptop@lists.debian.org
> Subject:Re: hard disk drive
>
> thanks for the response.
>
> I tried mounting the disk as hdb, hdb1 etc... but it wouldn't mount. I get
> the error device not configured.
> I tried making a filesystem too, but even that gives the same error as
> device not configured.
> I tried the hard0drive jumper settings as a primary-master as well as the
> primary slave.
> The disk is an enhanced IDE drive. are there any special drivers needed
> for accessing EIDE drives in linux??
> and if so where can i get these drivers?
>
> in windows I am not sure how the whole set-up works I have contacted
> compaq support but there arent too very hepl ful. they say the model is
> out-dated (Compaq LTE Elite, and the dock is compaq Smartstation). and I
> am not sure of the interface(what sort?? looks like SCSI to me or maybe
> PCMCIA type III) the computer uses to attach to the docking bay.
>
>
> any help will be appreciated.
>
> thanks,
> praveen kamath
>
> On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > G'Day !
> >
> > Are you saying that fdisk recognizes your new hd as /dev/hdb, but you
> can
> > not mount it ?
> >
> > Once in fdisk ... Did you partition the drive ? Did you create a
> > filesystem on those new partitions ? Did you use the mount command to
> > access the drive ("mount -t ext2 /dev/hdb1" as root) ?
> >
> > Does anyone know how to do it in windows (is it a secondary slave, or
> > maybe a secondary master ? ), it should be similar, as far as the
> hardware
> > is concerned.
> >
> > cheers,
> > Jim Parker
> >
> > Sailboat racing is not a matter of life and death It is far more
> > important than that !!!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Kamath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 01/05/01 02:43 AM
> >
> >
> > To: debian-laptop@lists.debian.org
> > cc:
> > Subject:hard disk drive
> >
> > Hello all--
> >
> > I need some help from someone who has used docking stations. I have a
> > Compaq LTE Elite laptop with the Compaq smart-station. I have added an
> > additional hard-disk to the docking station, and would like to access
> this
> > additional hard-disk via the docking station.
> >
> > The additional Hard disk is desk-top EIDE hard-drive and I tried
> > configuring it as the Primary master as well as the Slave but I get the
> > message "unable to open device" when I try to do a fdisk on the new
> disk,
> > it appears the diskette is recognised as /dev/hdb
> >
> > Can anyone help me!!
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Praveen
> >
> >
> >
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Re: hard disk drive
> when the computer boots up I dont see the new hard-disk drive. i am
> assuming the same as you too, i.e. fdisk/mkfs needs disk geometry(number
> of blocks)
>
> but i haven't really had the time to look at the hard-disk and calculate
> the number of blocks from the information on the hard-disk drive. but i
> will definitely try it out.
>
> I am not sure as you put it. "if fdisk is properly seeing /dev/hdb" ...
> but the other disks like /dev/hdc, hdd etc... give a disk not found error.
>
> when i do a more on other drives, like /dev/hdb, hdc ..etc
> i get the same error device not found ... (because there are no devices
> attached, which is natural)
> (more /dev/hdc for example)
>
> BUT for more /dev/hdb I get the error device not configured.
Hmm, any given IDE chain can hold two things on it. On a laptop
/dev/hda is invariably the hard disk deep inside. The /dev/hdb is usually
wasted - though sometimes it ends up able to be used for an ATAPI floppy.
In other words it means "yes, I have a driver loaded for that IDE chain,
but there's nothing on the other end; that device out there doesn't want to
talk."
Logically a dock would normally get its own, additional chain, and that's
why mounted CDs from a dock are usually /dev/hdc or /dev/hdd. The same should
follow for IDE disks on a dock.
I could potentially see a dock that only has room for one IDE device, hooking
into the laptop circuitry such that the dock is /dev/hdb. In which case,
you should get good response from /dev/hdb if-and-only-if the dock is really
solidly connected, and the drive docked there, also really solidly connected
and powered. (you said it's a desktop class drive, it does have one of those
huge four prong power thingies, right? It needs juice.) What my sysadmin
colleagues would call an "ISO layer 1 problem" - check the physical layer...
> any clues on this one??
>
> And I have sent an email to the Star :)
> thanks,
> Praveen
And I've some guesses but nothing sure. Hey, everyone, this is tricky
enough, has anyone any objections if I publish this thread in the Linux
Gazette once we solve it for him?
* Heather Stern * star@ many places... sr.tech editor, Linux Gazette
> On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > G'Day !
> >
> > I'm interested in what happened in your fdisk session. Where you able to
> > create partitions ? Could you "save" your work on the partition table ?
> >
> > "Device not configured" is also curious ... I wonder if you need to
> > specify the disk geometry to lilo (I'm guessing here) I would look
> > at the problem like it was a partition table problem. You did something
> > right if fdisk can see it.
> >
> > I'm not real familiar with laptops ... I'd be more help on a
> > desktop/server system. Perhaps someone like Heather would be able to help
> > you more.
> >
> > cheers,
> > Jim Parker
> >
> > Sailboat racing is not a matter of life and death It is far more
> > important than that !!!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Kamath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 01/05/01 11:36 AM
> >
> >
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > cc: debian-laptop@lists.debian.org
> > Subject:Re: hard disk drive
> >
> > thanks for the response.
> >
> > I tried mounting the disk as hdb, hdb1 etc... but it wouldn't mount. I get
> > the error device not configured.
> > I tried making a filesystem too, but even that gives the same error as
> > device not configured.
> > I tried the hard0drive jumper settings as a primary-master as well as the
> > primary slave.
> > The disk is an enhanced IDE drive. are there any special drivers needed
> > for accessing EIDE drives in linux??
> > and if so where can i get these drivers?
> >
> > in windows I am not sure how the whole set-up works I have contacted
> > compaq support but there arent too very hepl ful. they say the model is
> > out-dated (Compaq LTE Elite, and the dock is compaq Smartstation). and I
> > am not sure of the interface(what sort?? looks like SCSI to me or maybe
> > PCMCIA type III) the computer uses to attach to the docking bay.
> >
> >
> > any help will be appreciated.
> >
> > thanks,
> > praveen kamath
> >
> > On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > > G'Day !
> > >
> > > Are you saying that fdisk recognizes your new hd as /dev/hdb, but you
> > can
> > > not mount it ?
> > >
> > > Once in fdisk ... Did you partition the drive ? Did you create a
> > > filesystem on those new partitions ? Did you use the mount command to
> > > access the drive ("mount -t ext2 /dev/hdb1" as root) ?
> > >
> > > Does anyone know how to do it in windows (is it a secondary slave, or
> > > maybe a secondary master ? ), it should be similar, as far as the
> > hardware
> > > is concerned.
> > >
> > > cheers,
> > > Jim Parker
> > >
> > > Sailboat racing is not a matter of life and death It is far more
> > > important than that !!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Kamath <[EMAIL P
Re: hard disk drive
none of the hard drive options work hdc, hdd ...etc... i have another question since we are on this . this might make things a little bit more complex, as it is (if anyone has been following the threads of emails I have beensending would be confused as to what I am trying to achieve!!) i cant help smiling at the whole interest i have created(have I??) :) I WILL be using the dock'c SCSI port to connect to a SCSI CD-ROM drive and since you mention the change in device names for devices in the dock what MIGHT this device be recognised as by the kernel?? hd* or sd* any clues??? and you can go ahead and publish this stuff on the gazette as long as you trim off personal stuff, which i have a bad habit of writing in my emails :), and other things that might not make a thread in the chain. thanks, Praveen Kamath On Fri, 5 Jan 2001, Heather wrote: > > when the computer boots up I dont see the new hard-disk drive. i am > > assuming the same as you too, i.e. fdisk/mkfs needs disk geometry(number > > of blocks) > > > > but i haven't really had the time to look at the hard-disk and calculate > > the number of blocks from the information on the hard-disk drive. but i > > will definitely try it out. > > > > I am not sure as you put it. "if fdisk is properly seeing /dev/hdb" ... > > but the other disks like /dev/hdc, hdd etc... give a disk not found error. > > > > when i do a more on other drives, like /dev/hdb, hdc ..etc > > i get the same error device not found ... (because there are no devices > > attached, which is natural) > > (more /dev/hdc for example) > > > > BUT for more /dev/hdb I get the error device not configured. > > Hmm, any given IDE chain can hold two things on it. On a laptop > /dev/hda is invariably the hard disk deep inside. The /dev/hdb is usually > wasted - though sometimes it ends up able to be used for an ATAPI floppy. > > In other words it means "yes, I have a driver loaded for that IDE chain, > but there's nothing on the other end; that device out there doesn't want to > talk." > > Logically a dock would normally get its own, additional chain, and that's > why mounted CDs from a dock are usually /dev/hdc or /dev/hdd. The same should > follow for IDE disks on a dock. > > I could potentially see a dock that only has room for one IDE device, hooking > into the laptop circuitry such that the dock is /dev/hdb. In which case, > you should get good response from /dev/hdb if-and-only-if the dock is really > solidly connected, and the drive docked there, also really solidly connected > and powered. (you said it's a desktop class drive, it does have one of those > huge four prong power thingies, right? It needs juice.) What my sysadmin > colleagues would call an "ISO layer 1 problem" - check the physical layer... > > > any clues on this one?? > > > > And I have sent an email to the Star :) > > thanks, > > Praveen > > And I've some guesses but nothing sure. Hey, everyone, this is tricky > enough, has anyone any objections if I publish this thread in the Linux > Gazette once we solve it for him? > > * Heather Stern * star@ many places... sr.tech editor, Linux Gazette > > > On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > G'Day ! > > > > > > I'm interested in what happened in your fdisk session. Where you able to > > > create partitions ? Could you "save" your work on the partition table ? > > > > > > "Device not configured" is also curious ... I wonder if you need to > > > specify the disk geometry to lilo (I'm guessing here) I would look > > > at the problem like it was a partition table problem. You did something > > > right if fdisk can see it. > > > > > > I'm not real familiar with laptops ... I'd be more help on a > > > desktop/server system. Perhaps someone like Heather would be able to > > > help > > > you more. > > > > > > cheers, > > > Jim Parker > > > > > > Sailboat racing is not a matter of life and death It is far more > > > important than that !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kamath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > 01/05/01 11:36 AM > > > > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > cc: debian-laptop@lists.debian.org > > > Subject:Re: hard disk drive > > > > > > thanks for the response. > > > > > > I tried mounting the disk as hdb, hdb1 etc... but it wouldn't mount. I get > > > the error device not configured. > > > I tried making a filesystem too, but even that gives the same error as > > > device not configured. > > > I tried the hard0drive jumper settings as a primary-master as well as the > > > primary slave. > > > The disk is an enhanced IDE drive. are there any special drivers needed > > > for accessing EIDE drives in linux?? > > > and if so where can i get these drivers? > > > > > > in windows I am not sure how the whole set-up works I have contacted > > > compaq support but there arent too very hepl ful. they say the model is > > > out-dated (C
Re: hard disk drive
> none of the hard drive options work hdc, hdd ...etc... > > i have another question since we are on this . > this might make things a little bit more complex, as it is (if anyone has > been following the threads of emails I have beensending would be confused > as to what I am trying to achieve!!) > > i cant help smiling at the whole interest i have created(have I??) :) Well, there seem to be a decent handful of us now trying to give it our best shot. > I WILL be using the dock'c SCSI port to connect to a SCSI CD-ROM drive > and since you mention the change in device names for devices in the dock > what MIGHT this device be recognised as by the kernel?? hd* or sd* > > any clues??? If it really *is* SCSI... note: the only laptops I *know* of that have a real SCSI port showing are some of the older HP Omnibooks (wh, it appears that we have one to join the ranks of the stolen) - the 800, and the poor forlorn 600 with its too-weird-for-words-hopeless PCMCIA ... and of *course* macintosh laptops. ... then all of the things should be sd? not hd?. If the internal drive is definitely IDE then it remains /dev/hda, and your first SCSI device should be /dev/sda. So you would run fdisk: fdisk /dev/sda But the partitions within it would have numbers: mkdosfs /dev/sda1 mke2fs /dev/sda2 mkswap /dev/sda3 > and you can go ahead and publish this stuff on the gazette as long as you > trim off personal stuff, which i have a bad habit of writing in my emails > :), and other things that might not make a thread in the chain. Well, that's why they call me an "editor" :) and I'd like to start by reminding folks how easy it is to chop off all the "how to unsub from debian-laptops" footers ;> > thanks, > Praveen Kamath Hey, you're welcome, it's how we pay back the world for our own early days of confusion. Speaking of which... if anyone knows where there's a good fast checklist of "ssh won't connect, what stupid thing did I miss" let me know. I have an sshd being especially weird. And change the subject if you do it as a reply-to this one. * Heather Stern * star@ many places... among 'em, sr. tech editor, linuxgazette
Re: hard disk drive
Heather <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > none of the hard drive options work hdc, hdd ...etc... > > > > i have another question since we are on this . > > this might make things a little bit more complex, as it is (if anyone has > > been following the threads of emails I have beensending would be confused > > as to what I am trying to achieve!!) > > > > i cant help smiling at the whole interest i have created(have I??) :) > > Well, there seem to be a decent handful of us now trying to give it our > best shot. > > > I WILL be using the dock'c SCSI port to connect to a SCSI CD-ROM drive > > and since you mention the change in device names for devices in the dock > > what MIGHT this device be recognised as by the kernel?? hd* or sd* > > > > any clues??? > > If it really *is* SCSI... > note: the only laptops I *know* of that have a real SCSI port showing > are some of the older HP Omnibooks (wh, it appears that we have > one to join the ranks of the stolen) - the 800, and the poor forlorn > 600 with its too-weird-for-words-hopeless PCMCIA ... and of *course* > macintosh laptops. > > .. then all of the things should be sd? not hd?. If the internal drive is > definitely IDE then it remains /dev/hda, and your first SCSI device should be > /dev/sda. > > So you would run fdisk: > fdisk /dev/sda hmm, for this you'd have to either have SCSI in your kernel or have SCSI drivers as modules... Praveen, did you roll your own kernel? Also, with the laptop docked, can you go into the BIOS to see what information you can get about the second hard drive? What does Linux tell you at boot time (check output of dmesg)? -tom > But the partitions within it would have numbers: > mkdosfs /dev/sda1 > mke2fs /dev/sda2 > mkswap /dev/sda3 > > > and you can go ahead and publish this stuff on the gazette as long as you > > trim off personal stuff, which i have a bad habit of writing in my emails > > :), and other things that might not make a thread in the chain.
trapped in the throes of install...
Hi all, I've downloaded the Debian 2.2r2 B1 image, and have been attempting to install it on a Toshiba 1715XCDS Laptop. I've successfully repartitioned the Hard Disk, Installed the kernel and created a user account, but I have 2 problems which are frustrating my efforts. The first of these is the install when run with dselect indicated that XFree86 would be installed, but I do not see the xf86config program /usr/X11R6/bin . The only files in that directory are cardinfo and gxditview . I would like to get X running, and I know that the graphics chips in the laptop support 800x600x16M colors at 60Hz, but I am at a loss about what I need to do next. anXious doesn't recognize the chipset, probably because its an AGP version. Others have had success with Toshiba laptops, so I think it's something I missed somewhere... The second problem is that man is MIA... leaving me pretty much in the dark. in particular, I want to mount the cdrom to see what's hiding on the B1 disk... Any help would be much appreciated. Nate
Re: trapped in the throes of install...
At 06:05 PM 1/5/01 -0600, you wrote: Hi all, I've downloaded the Debian 2.2r2 B1 image, and have been attempting to install it on a Toshiba 1715XCDS Laptop. I've successfully repartitioned the Hard Disk, Installed the kernel and created a user account, but I have 2 problems which are frustrating my efforts. The first of these is the install when run with dselect indicated that XFree86 would be installed, but I do not see the xf86config program /usr/X11R6/bin . The only files in that directory are cardinfo and gxditview . I would like to get X running, and I know that the graphics chips in the laptop support 800x600x16M colors at 60Hz, but I am at a loss about what I need to do next. anXious doesn't recognize the chipset, probably because its an AGP version. Others have had success with Toshiba laptops, so I think it's something I missed somewhere... The second problem is that man is MIA... leaving me pretty much in the dark. in particular, I want to mount the cdrom to see what's hiding on the B1 disk... I'm not positive but it sounds to me like you need to get the B2 image, Potato binaries are on 2 disks and AFAIK you need both of them as they each have some of the important base stuff and some other things as well. Any help would be much appreciated. Nate -- 73 de KG6BZQ Matt M.
Re: advice on upgrading hard drive and cpu of laptop
On Saturday 06 January 2001 06:47, Kamath wrote: > I checked the lap-top. the CPU is mounted on some kind of board, and then > the board is mounted on some kind of socket.. I am fairly new to hard-ware > manipulations as this, but have worked before on archaic intel 8085 8086 > chips > > and is this Athlon 150 Mhz 5x86 chip supported in Linux?? Of course! Linux runs on all Intel compatible CPUs. -- http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/projects.html Projects I am working on http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page
Re: Parallel Printer Port Problem
Jo, et al; I tried the echo redirect below and was told 'permission denied', so I tried it as root and it worked, the printer printed the message. I chmod 0666 /dev/lp0 and it worked without su. I tried tried lpr -Plp and it wouldn't work with or without su. On the magicfilter config, are you talking about the printcap file? That was generated by the magicfilterconfig utility, and I deleted and recreated this file several times. Here's what it looks like: The lpd.conf file has all options commented out. The lpd.perms file looks fine: ## You can make sure that connections come from a privileged port. ## Default is to allow them from any port so that non-setuid programs # can do printing. # Totally RFC1179 #REJECT SERVICE=X NOT PORT=1-1023 #REJECT SERVICE=X NOT PORT=1-1023 # Privileged #REJECT SERVICE=X NOT PORT=721-731 # # allow root on server to control jobs ACCEPT SERVICE=C SERVER REMOTEUSER=root # allow anybody to get server, status, and printcap ACCEPT SERVICE=C LPC=lpd,status,printcap # reject all others REJECT SERVICE=C # # allow same user on originating host to remove a job ACCEPT SERVICE=M SAMEHOST SAMEUSER # allow root on server to remove a job ACCEPT SERVICE=M SERVER REMOTEUSER=root REJECT SERVICE=M # all other operations allowed DEFAULT ACCEPT Any other ideas? thanks, jc --- # This file was generated by /usr/sbin/magicfilterconfig. # lp|dj952c|HP Deskjet 952C:\ :lp=/dev/lp0:sd=/var/spool/lpd/dj952c:\ :sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0:\ :if=/etc/magicfilter/dj690c-best-filter:\ :af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs: Also, nothing is being logged and nothing shows up in the queue (lpq). On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 10:32:42AM +, Jo Geraerts wrote: > Hello, > > On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, Jeffrey S. Coppock wrote: > > > Jan 4 07:36:20 localhost kernel: parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778), irq > > 7, dma 3 [SPP,ECP,ECPPS2] > > Jan 4 07:36:21 localhost kernel: parport_probe: succeeded > > Jan 4 07:36:21 localhost kernel: parport0: Printer, HEWLETT-PACKARD > > DESKJET 950C > > Jan 4 07:36:21 localhost kernel: lp0: using parport0 (interrupt-driven). > > I've re-installed magicfilter, but that didn't help either. > > Does it print if you run the following command: > > echo "this is a test">/dev/lp0 > > If it doesn't, take another look to the log's for errors. If it does, > there's something wrong with your magicfilter config > > Greetz, > Jo -- ** Jeff Coppock Nortel Networks IP Services email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (408) 565-3848 :Office ESN: 655 (510) 703-5910 :Mobile (925) 292-1156 :Home Office
RE: Stolen laptop - how to increase security?
> -Original Message- > From: Hubert Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Hubert Chan > Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 6:47 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Stolen laptop - how to increase security? > [...] > You missed the, IMHO, most effective/important/simple method: get a laptop > lock. Almost all (if not all) of the new laptops come with a slot for the > lock, and if yours doesn't have one, most locks come with a kit > to add a slot. My laptop was not new, and it was a second hand one. I agree that having a lock would be one of the best idea. But this doesn't apply to unsecure environment (e.g. working in 'alien' location). > One of Targus' Defcon locks even has a motion sensor, so you > don't have to lock it up to a secure place, if you don't have one around. This seems cool. > The only drawback that I can think of is that it takes a couple > extra seconds > to set up or pack up your laptop. Just make sure that the cable > you get is > resistant to cutting (i.e. don't tie your laptop up with a shoelace). > > Jérôme> use a BIOS password. This can apparently be reset > depending on the > Jérôme> type. Jumper reset, use of a BIOS reseter, etc... > > If you use a BIOS password/boot loader security, ADVERTISE IT! > Paste a sticker > (or tape a piece of paper) on the top of your laptop, saying > something like, > "WARNING: This laptop is password protected. The password can > only be removed by an authorized [manufacturer's name] technician presented with proof of > ownership. So don't even think of stealing it, because it won't > do you any good." Your primary goal is to prevent your laptop from being > stolen in the first place. Your secondary goal is to recover it after it is stolen. This seems good except that if I am a guy stealing the laptop, I won't take the time to read the dman message. It takes less than 15 seconds to enter an office, unplug the machine put it in a bag and leave. So if I reads the message at home, I might just throw the machine away... > Other tips: > > - - paste your name/ph#/address onto your laptop. So if someone > finds it, they can contact you. It probably doesn't really add much security, > since the person who steals your laptop can just remove it, but it > doesn't take much time to do. (Make sure you remember to update it if you move, though.) > > - - if you don't mind marking up a piece of equipment worth > several thousand dollars, make sure your laptop has some distinguishing feature > that is easily recognizable. Mine has a bunch of stickers pasted on it. Not > only does it make your laptop easier to recognize, my guess is that people > would be less likely to steal it. Thanks for the good ideas. I had my business card attached to the device, but I guess that it has been quickly removed... Next time I stick one or two of these under the keyboard, inside the machine (on the hard disk), etc... If this machine ever gets to a repair office, I might get the machine back. Jerome -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Stolen laptop - how to increase security?
> I once ran across an old DOS utility that did something like > this. IIRC It > embedded itself into the bootsector and upon a certain keycombe it would > throw a serial number onto the screen and play an audio code through the > speaker (in case th monitor was no longer usable for whatever > reason). You > were supposed to register the serial number with the company that produced > the utility. I think I still have the disk somewhere - I'll see if I can > locate it. I am really interested in setting up a system that catches the stealer while in the act of stealing. I didn't find (yet) any system that does that. I was thinking of something like that: What about setting a system such as when the laptop is unused for a while, instead of using normal apm service and suspend the machine, makes it run an xlock, disable the apm services in a way such that they do not suspend the machine automatically and start a 'laptop-protection daemon'. When the xlock disappears, the daemon is stopped and the apm services are restarted (so you might use the apm services yourself). In the case somebody unpluggs the machine while under the xlock (without giving the password), then the daemon would detect it and could start doing some preventive action, such as: - playing a sound with maximum volume saying "I am getting stolen". - this daemon could also register to a fixed local server and do a ping every now and then. If the ping stops before the daemon unregister to the server, then server then can take other actions, such as sending SMS message, starting a video camera, in the room, etc. - other thing ? The apm services down would make the stealer unable to use the hot keys to suspend/stop the machine, isn't it? This can easily be set in place I think. What do you think of that? I don't think it is difficult to write. > > I would appreciate any idea that could help us to increase our security. > > This idea might not decrease the odds of the laptop being stolen, but it > will increase the chances of getting it back. Open up the machine and > engrave some sort of ID (driver's license number, SSN, whatever) onto a > couple of places *inside* the case. If your floppy / CDROM drives are the > easily removable type, engrave them too (carefully, please). OK. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Parallel Printer Port Problem
Hello, On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, Jeffrey S. Coppock wrote: > Jan 4 07:36:20 localhost kernel: parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778), irq 7, dma 3 >[SPP,ECP,ECPPS2] > Jan 4 07:36:21 localhost kernel: parport_probe: succeeded > Jan 4 07:36:21 localhost kernel: parport0: Printer, HEWLETT-PACKARD DESKJET 950C > Jan 4 07:36:21 localhost kernel: lp0: using parport0 (interrupt-driven). > I've re-installed magicfilter, but that didn't help either. Does it print if you run the following command: echo "this is a test">/dev/lp0 If it doesn't, take another look to the log's for errors. If it does, there's something wrong with your magicfilter config Greetz, Jo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hard disk drive
Hello all-- I need some help from someone who has used docking stations. I have a Compaq LTE Elite laptop with the Compaq smart-station. I have added an additional hard-disk to the docking station, and would like to access this additional hard-disk via the docking station. The additional Hard disk is desk-top EIDE hard-drive and I tried configuring it as the Primary master as well as the Slave but I get the message "unable to open device" when I try to do a fdisk on the new disk, it appears the diskette is recognised as /dev/hdb Can anyone help me!! Thanks, Praveen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Stolen laptop - how to increase security?
Regarding the laptop-protection daemon.. > In the case somebody unpluggs the machine while under the xlock (without > giving the password), then the daemon would detect it and could start doing > some preventive action, such as: > - playing a sound with maximum volume saying "I am getting stolen". "I am getting stolen. Please plug the power back in! I have contacted the police on my wireless modem, and told them my GPS coordinates. They already have your fingerprints." -- Paul Schulz, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Foursticks Systems Pty Ltd, http://www.foursticks.com.au 2/259 Glen Osmond Road, FREWVILLE South Australia 5063 Phone +61 8 8338 5500, Fax +61 8 8338 5511, Mob +61 401 981 301 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Stolen laptop - how to increase security?
> bother to answer the questions as my nice little laptop disappeared from my > office yesterday while I was at home due to flooding in my apartment. Bad > day :( Ugh. Bad day, indeed. Some months ago in response to workplace theft warnings (apparently there are thieves who specialize in slipping into office buildings and walking away with laptops, purses, etc.), I got one of those little cable locking devices. (Most laptops have a little slot made for this purpose.) It takes about 30 seconds to snap into place and makes it impossible to quickly walk away with the laptop. It won't stop a determined thief with the time to unscrew the legs of the desk or one that wanders around with a substantial pair of wire cutters in hand, but I feel pretty secure leaving the laptop on my desk while I go to meetings or lunch. Be seeing you, norm -- Norman Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | We dance around in a ring and suppose, http://nwalsh.com/| but the Secret sits in the middle and | knows.--Robert Frost -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: hard disk drive
G'Day !
Are you saying that fdisk recognizes your new hd as /dev/hdb, but you can not mount it ?
Once in fdisk ... Did you partition the drive ? Did you create a filesystem on those new partitions ? Did you use the mount command to access the drive ("mount -t ext2 /dev/hdb1" as root) ?
Does anyone know how to do it in windows (is it a secondary slave, or maybe a secondary master ? ), it should be similar, as far as the hardware is concerned.
cheers,
Jim Parker
Sailboat racing is not a matter of life and death It is far more important than that !!!
Kamath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
01/05/01 02:43 AM
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Subject: hard disk drive
Hello all--
I need some help from someone who has used docking stations. I have a
Compaq LTE Elite laptop with the Compaq smart-station. I have added an
additional hard-disk to the docking station, and would like to access this
additional hard-disk via the docking station.
The additional Hard disk is desk-top EIDE hard-drive and I tried
configuring it as the Primary master as well as the Slave but I get the
message "unable to open device" when I try to do a fdisk on the new disk,
it appears the diskette is recognised as /dev/hdb
Can anyone help me!!
Thanks,
Praveen
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Hello all
I would just like to introduce myself. I am new to this group and pretty new to Linux also. I can definetly see myself going to Linux full time very shortly, after everything I have is compatible. I do have a laptop problem though.. I have an NEC Versa 5080x, thankfully everything is supported except for my Linksys Etherfast 10/100 PCMCIA card. I get the error pcnet_cs unable to read hardware address 0x300 or 0x340 depending on which slot it is in. anyway - that wasn't the best introduction, but it works.. freaker _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hello all
On Fri, 5 Jan 2001, freaker <<< wrote: > > I would just like to introduce myself. I am new to this group and pretty > new to Linux also. I can definetly see myself going to Linux full time very > shortly, after everything I have is compatible. > when I got my laptop it took me a month to get to 98% linux only. The final two percent was movie and game stuff. Now I'm 99.98% linux, since I can play all the movies I want under linux now and game wise I've found bzflag and xpilot :) And for the curious the 0.02% is a 32Mb DOS partition with partition magic/spfdisk/norton commander and elite frontier :) Its also currently unbootable, I haven't gotten around to making it bootable as I haven't needed it :) > I do have a laptop problem though.. > I have an NEC Versa 5080x, thankfully everything is supported except for my > Linksys Etherfast 10/100 PCMCIA card. I get the error pcnet_cs unable to > read hardware address 0x300 or 0x340 depending on which slot it is in. > The linksys card you have is ment to be one of the best pcmcia cards you can get (in respect to linux). And the error you are getting leads me to concluding that you actually have a IRQ/IO problem. Before you play with the card type "cat /proc/ioports" and "cat /proc/interupts". Find out what devices have already taken your resources. Is there anything at 0x300 or 0x340 already? IF there is then this is the problem. To fix the problem you need to edit /etc/pcmcia/pcmcia.con (if I remember) and tell the drivers to steer clean of using this resource and to find something else. I hope this helps you > anyway - that wasn't the best introduction, but it works.. > I'm sure we will cope :) Alex -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: hard disk drive
thanks for the response.
I tried mounting the disk as hdb, hdb1 etc... but it wouldn't mount. I get
the error device not configured.
I tried making a filesystem too, but even that gives the same error as
device not configured.
I tried the hard0drive jumper settings as a primary-master as well as the
primary slave.
The disk is an enhanced IDE drive. are there any special drivers needed
for accessing EIDE drives in linux??
and if so where can i get these drivers?
in windows I am not sure how the whole set-up works I have contacted
compaq support but there arent too very hepl ful. they say the model is
out-dated (Compaq LTE Elite, and the dock is compaq Smartstation). and I
am not sure of the interface(what sort?? looks like SCSI to me or maybe
PCMCIA type III) the computer uses to attach to the docking bay.
any help will be appreciated.
thanks,
praveen kamath
On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> G'Day !
>
> Are you saying that fdisk recognizes your new hd as /dev/hdb, but you can
> not mount it ?
>
> Once in fdisk ... Did you partition the drive ? Did you create a
> filesystem on those new partitions ? Did you use the mount command to
> access the drive ("mount -t ext2 /dev/hdb1" as root) ?
>
> Does anyone know how to do it in windows (is it a secondary slave, or
> maybe a secondary master ? ), it should be similar, as far as the hardware
> is concerned.
>
> cheers,
> Jim Parker
>
> Sailboat racing is not a matter of life and death It is far more
> important than that !!!
>
>
>
>
> Kamath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 01/05/01 02:43 AM
>
>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> cc:
> Subject:hard disk drive
>
> Hello all--
>
> I need some help from someone who has used docking stations. I have a
> Compaq LTE Elite laptop with the Compaq smart-station. I have added an
> additional hard-disk to the docking station, and would like to access this
> additional hard-disk via the docking station.
>
> The additional Hard disk is desk-top EIDE hard-drive and I tried
> configuring it as the Primary master as well as the Slave but I get the
> message "unable to open device" when I try to do a fdisk on the new disk,
> it appears the diskette is recognised as /dev/hdb
>
> Can anyone help me!!
>
>
> Thanks,
> Praveen
>
>
>
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Re: hard disk drive
when the computer boots up I dont see the new hard-disk drive. i am
assuming the same as you too, i.e. fdisk/mkfs needs disk geometry(number
of blocks)
but i haven't really had the time to look at the hard-disk and calculate
the number of blocks from the information on the hard-disk drive. but i
will definitely try it out.
I am not sure as you put it. "if fdisk is properly seeing /dev/hdb" ...
but the other disks like /dev/hdc, hdd etc... give a disk not found error.
when i do a more on other drives, like /dev/hdb, hdc ..etc
i get the same error device not found ... (because there are no devices
attached, which is natural)
(more /dev/hdc for example)
BUT for more /dev/hdb I get the error device not configured.
any clues on this one??
And I have sent an email to the Star :)
thanks,
Praveen
On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> G'Day !
>
> I'm interested in what happened in your fdisk session. Where you able to
> create partitions ? Could you "save" your work on the partition table ?
>
> "Device not configured" is also curious ... I wonder if you need to
> specify the disk geometry to lilo (I'm guessing here) I would look
> at the problem like it was a partition table problem. You did something
> right if fdisk can see it.
>
> I'm not real familiar with laptops ... I'd be more help on a
> desktop/server system. Perhaps someone like Heather would be able to help
> you more.
>
> cheers,
> Jim Parker
>
> Sailboat racing is not a matter of life and death It is far more
> important than that !!!
>
>
>
>
> Kamath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 01/05/01 11:36 AM
>
>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:Re: hard disk drive
>
> thanks for the response.
>
> I tried mounting the disk as hdb, hdb1 etc... but it wouldn't mount. I get
> the error device not configured.
> I tried making a filesystem too, but even that gives the same error as
> device not configured.
> I tried the hard0drive jumper settings as a primary-master as well as the
> primary slave.
> The disk is an enhanced IDE drive. are there any special drivers needed
> for accessing EIDE drives in linux??
> and if so where can i get these drivers?
>
> in windows I am not sure how the whole set-up works I have contacted
> compaq support but there arent too very hepl ful. they say the model is
> out-dated (Compaq LTE Elite, and the dock is compaq Smartstation). and I
> am not sure of the interface(what sort?? looks like SCSI to me or maybe
> PCMCIA type III) the computer uses to attach to the docking bay.
>
>
> any help will be appreciated.
>
> thanks,
> praveen kamath
>
> On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > G'Day !
> >
> > Are you saying that fdisk recognizes your new hd as /dev/hdb, but you
> can
> > not mount it ?
> >
> > Once in fdisk ... Did you partition the drive ? Did you create a
> > filesystem on those new partitions ? Did you use the mount command to
> > access the drive ("mount -t ext2 /dev/hdb1" as root) ?
> >
> > Does anyone know how to do it in windows (is it a secondary slave, or
> > maybe a secondary master ? ), it should be similar, as far as the
> hardware
> > is concerned.
> >
> > cheers,
> > Jim Parker
> >
> > Sailboat racing is not a matter of life and death It is far more
> > important than that !!!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Kamath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 01/05/01 02:43 AM
> >
> >
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > cc:
> > Subject:hard disk drive
> >
> > Hello all--
> >
> > I need some help from someone who has used docking stations. I have a
> > Compaq LTE Elite laptop with the Compaq smart-station. I have added an
> > additional hard-disk to the docking station, and would like to access
> this
> > additional hard-disk via the docking station.
> >
> > The additional Hard disk is desk-top EIDE hard-drive and I tried
> > configuring it as the Primary master as well as the Slave but I get the
> > message "unable to open device" when I try to do a fdisk on the new
> disk,
> > it appears the diskette is recognised as /dev/hdb
> >
> > Can anyone help me!!
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Praveen
> >
> >
> >
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Re: hard disk drive
> when the computer boots up I dont see the new hard-disk drive. i am
> assuming the same as you too, i.e. fdisk/mkfs needs disk geometry(number
> of blocks)
>
> but i haven't really had the time to look at the hard-disk and calculate
> the number of blocks from the information on the hard-disk drive. but i
> will definitely try it out.
>
> I am not sure as you put it. "if fdisk is properly seeing /dev/hdb" ...
> but the other disks like /dev/hdc, hdd etc... give a disk not found error.
>
> when i do a more on other drives, like /dev/hdb, hdc ..etc
> i get the same error device not found ... (because there are no devices
> attached, which is natural)
> (more /dev/hdc for example)
>
> BUT for more /dev/hdb I get the error device not configured.
Hmm, any given IDE chain can hold two things on it. On a laptop
/dev/hda is invariably the hard disk deep inside. The /dev/hdb is usually
wasted - though sometimes it ends up able to be used for an ATAPI floppy.
In other words it means "yes, I have a driver loaded for that IDE chain,
but there's nothing on the other end; that device out there doesn't want to
talk."
Logically a dock would normally get its own, additional chain, and that's
why mounted CDs from a dock are usually /dev/hdc or /dev/hdd. The same should
follow for IDE disks on a dock.
I could potentially see a dock that only has room for one IDE device, hooking
into the laptop circuitry such that the dock is /dev/hdb. In which case,
you should get good response from /dev/hdb if-and-only-if the dock is really
solidly connected, and the drive docked there, also really solidly connected
and powered. (you said it's a desktop class drive, it does have one of those
huge four prong power thingies, right? It needs juice.) What my sysadmin
colleagues would call an "ISO layer 1 problem" - check the physical layer...
> any clues on this one??
>
> And I have sent an email to the Star :)
> thanks,
> Praveen
And I've some guesses but nothing sure. Hey, everyone, this is tricky
enough, has anyone any objections if I publish this thread in the Linux
Gazette once we solve it for him?
* Heather Stern * star@ many places... sr.tech editor, Linux Gazette
> On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > G'Day !
> >
> > I'm interested in what happened in your fdisk session. Where you able to
> > create partitions ? Could you "save" your work on the partition table ?
> >
> > "Device not configured" is also curious ... I wonder if you need to
> > specify the disk geometry to lilo (I'm guessing here) I would look
> > at the problem like it was a partition table problem. You did something
> > right if fdisk can see it.
> >
> > I'm not real familiar with laptops ... I'd be more help on a
> > desktop/server system. Perhaps someone like Heather would be able to help
> > you more.
> >
> > cheers,
> > Jim Parker
> >
> > Sailboat racing is not a matter of life and death It is far more
> > important than that !!!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Kamath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 01/05/01 11:36 AM
> >
> >
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject:Re: hard disk drive
> >
> > thanks for the response.
> >
> > I tried mounting the disk as hdb, hdb1 etc... but it wouldn't mount. I get
> > the error device not configured.
> > I tried making a filesystem too, but even that gives the same error as
> > device not configured.
> > I tried the hard0drive jumper settings as a primary-master as well as the
> > primary slave.
> > The disk is an enhanced IDE drive. are there any special drivers needed
> > for accessing EIDE drives in linux??
> > and if so where can i get these drivers?
> >
> > in windows I am not sure how the whole set-up works I have contacted
> > compaq support but there arent too very hepl ful. they say the model is
> > out-dated (Compaq LTE Elite, and the dock is compaq Smartstation). and I
> > am not sure of the interface(what sort?? looks like SCSI to me or maybe
> > PCMCIA type III) the computer uses to attach to the docking bay.
> >
> >
> > any help will be appreciated.
> >
> > thanks,
> > praveen kamath
> >
> > On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > > G'Day !
> > >
> > > Are you saying that fdisk recognizes your new hd as /dev/hdb, but you
> > can
> > > not mount it ?
> > >
> > > Once in fdisk ... Did you partition the drive ? Did you create a
> > > filesystem on those new partitions ? Did you use the mount command to
> > > access the drive ("mount -t ext2 /dev/hdb1" as root) ?
> > >
> > > Does anyone know how to do it in windows (is it a secondary slave, or
> > > maybe a secondary master ? ), it should be similar, as far as the
> > hardware
> > > is concerned.
> > >
> > > cheers,
> > > Jim Parker
> > >
> > > Sailboat racing is not a matter of life and death It is far more
> > > important than that !!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Kamath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
Re: hard disk drive
none of the hard drive options work hdc, hdd ...etc... i have another question since we are on this . this might make things a little bit more complex, as it is (if anyone has been following the threads of emails I have beensending would be confused as to what I am trying to achieve!!) i cant help smiling at the whole interest i have created(have I??) :) I WILL be using the dock'c SCSI port to connect to a SCSI CD-ROM drive and since you mention the change in device names for devices in the dock what MIGHT this device be recognised as by the kernel?? hd* or sd* any clues??? and you can go ahead and publish this stuff on the gazette as long as you trim off personal stuff, which i have a bad habit of writing in my emails :), and other things that might not make a thread in the chain. thanks, Praveen Kamath On Fri, 5 Jan 2001, Heather wrote: > > when the computer boots up I dont see the new hard-disk drive. i am > > assuming the same as you too, i.e. fdisk/mkfs needs disk geometry(number > > of blocks) > > > > but i haven't really had the time to look at the hard-disk and calculate > > the number of blocks from the information on the hard-disk drive. but i > > will definitely try it out. > > > > I am not sure as you put it. "if fdisk is properly seeing /dev/hdb" ... > > but the other disks like /dev/hdc, hdd etc... give a disk not found error. > > > > when i do a more on other drives, like /dev/hdb, hdc ..etc > > i get the same error device not found ... (because there are no devices > > attached, which is natural) > > (more /dev/hdc for example) > > > > BUT for more /dev/hdb I get the error device not configured. > > Hmm, any given IDE chain can hold two things on it. On a laptop > /dev/hda is invariably the hard disk deep inside. The /dev/hdb is usually > wasted - though sometimes it ends up able to be used for an ATAPI floppy. > > In other words it means "yes, I have a driver loaded for that IDE chain, > but there's nothing on the other end; that device out there doesn't want to > talk." > > Logically a dock would normally get its own, additional chain, and that's > why mounted CDs from a dock are usually /dev/hdc or /dev/hdd. The same should > follow for IDE disks on a dock. > > I could potentially see a dock that only has room for one IDE device, hooking > into the laptop circuitry such that the dock is /dev/hdb. In which case, > you should get good response from /dev/hdb if-and-only-if the dock is really > solidly connected, and the drive docked there, also really solidly connected > and powered. (you said it's a desktop class drive, it does have one of those > huge four prong power thingies, right? It needs juice.) What my sysadmin > colleagues would call an "ISO layer 1 problem" - check the physical layer... > > > any clues on this one?? > > > > And I have sent an email to the Star :) > > thanks, > > Praveen > > And I've some guesses but nothing sure. Hey, everyone, this is tricky > enough, has anyone any objections if I publish this thread in the Linux > Gazette once we solve it for him? > > * Heather Stern * star@ many places... sr.tech editor, Linux Gazette > > > On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > G'Day ! > > > > > > I'm interested in what happened in your fdisk session. Where you able to > > > create partitions ? Could you "save" your work on the partition table ? > > > > > > "Device not configured" is also curious ... I wonder if you need to > > > specify the disk geometry to lilo (I'm guessing here) I would look > > > at the problem like it was a partition table problem. You did something > > > right if fdisk can see it. > > > > > > I'm not real familiar with laptops ... I'd be more help on a > > > desktop/server system. Perhaps someone like Heather would be able to help > > > you more. > > > > > > cheers, > > > Jim Parker > > > > > > Sailboat racing is not a matter of life and death It is far more > > > important than that !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kamath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > 01/05/01 11:36 AM > > > > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject:Re: hard disk drive > > > > > > thanks for the response. > > > > > > I tried mounting the disk as hdb, hdb1 etc... but it wouldn't mount. I get > > > the error device not configured. > > > I tried making a filesystem too, but even that gives the same error as > > > device not configured. > > > I tried the hard0drive jumper settings as a primary-master as well as the > > > primary slave. > > > The disk is an enhanced IDE drive. are there any special drivers needed > > > for accessing EIDE drives in linux?? > > > and if so where can i get these drivers? > > > > > > in windows I am not sure how the whole set-up works I have contacted > > > compaq support but there arent too very hepl ful. they say the model is > > > out-dated (Compaq LTE Elite, an
Re: hard disk drive
> none of the hard drive options work hdc, hdd ...etc... > > i have another question since we are on this . > this might make things a little bit more complex, as it is (if anyone has > been following the threads of emails I have beensending would be confused > as to what I am trying to achieve!!) > > i cant help smiling at the whole interest i have created(have I??) :) Well, there seem to be a decent handful of us now trying to give it our best shot. > I WILL be using the dock'c SCSI port to connect to a SCSI CD-ROM drive > and since you mention the change in device names for devices in the dock > what MIGHT this device be recognised as by the kernel?? hd* or sd* > > any clues??? If it really *is* SCSI... note: the only laptops I *know* of that have a real SCSI port showing are some of the older HP Omnibooks (wh, it appears that we have one to join the ranks of the stolen) - the 800, and the poor forlorn 600 with its too-weird-for-words-hopeless PCMCIA ... and of *course* macintosh laptops. ... then all of the things should be sd? not hd?. If the internal drive is definitely IDE then it remains /dev/hda, and your first SCSI device should be /dev/sda. So you would run fdisk: fdisk /dev/sda But the partitions within it would have numbers: mkdosfs /dev/sda1 mke2fs /dev/sda2 mkswap /dev/sda3 > and you can go ahead and publish this stuff on the gazette as long as you > trim off personal stuff, which i have a bad habit of writing in my emails > :), and other things that might not make a thread in the chain. Well, that's why they call me an "editor" :) and I'd like to start by reminding folks how easy it is to chop off all the "how to unsub from debian-laptops" footers ;> > thanks, > Praveen Kamath Hey, you're welcome, it's how we pay back the world for our own early days of confusion. Speaking of which... if anyone knows where there's a good fast checklist of "ssh won't connect, what stupid thing did I miss" let me know. I have an sshd being especially weird. And change the subject if you do it as a reply-to this one. * Heather Stern * star@ many places... among 'em, sr. tech editor, linuxgazette -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: hard disk drive
Heather <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > none of the hard drive options work hdc, hdd ...etc... > > > > i have another question since we are on this . > > this might make things a little bit more complex, as it is (if anyone has > > been following the threads of emails I have beensending would be confused > > as to what I am trying to achieve!!) > > > > i cant help smiling at the whole interest i have created(have I??) :) > > Well, there seem to be a decent handful of us now trying to give it our > best shot. > > > I WILL be using the dock'c SCSI port to connect to a SCSI CD-ROM drive > > and since you mention the change in device names for devices in the dock > > what MIGHT this device be recognised as by the kernel?? hd* or sd* > > > > any clues??? > > If it really *is* SCSI... > note: the only laptops I *know* of that have a real SCSI port showing > are some of the older HP Omnibooks (wh, it appears that we have > one to join the ranks of the stolen) - the 800, and the poor forlorn > 600 with its too-weird-for-words-hopeless PCMCIA ... and of *course* > macintosh laptops. > > .. then all of the things should be sd? not hd?. If the internal drive is > definitely IDE then it remains /dev/hda, and your first SCSI device should be > /dev/sda. > > So you would run fdisk: > fdisk /dev/sda hmm, for this you'd have to either have SCSI in your kernel or have SCSI drivers as modules... Praveen, did you roll your own kernel? Also, with the laptop docked, can you go into the BIOS to see what information you can get about the second hard drive? What does Linux tell you at boot time (check output of dmesg)? -tom > But the partitions within it would have numbers: > mkdosfs /dev/sda1 > mke2fs /dev/sda2 > mkswap /dev/sda3 > > > and you can go ahead and publish this stuff on the gazette as long as you > > trim off personal stuff, which i have a bad habit of writing in my emails > > :), and other things that might not make a thread in the chain. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
trapped in the throes of install...
Hi all, I've downloaded the Debian 2.2r2 B1 image, and have been attempting to install it on a Toshiba 1715XCDS Laptop. I've successfully repartitioned the Hard Disk, Installed the kernel and created a user account, but I have 2 problems which are frustrating my efforts. The first of these is the install when run with dselect indicated that XFree86 would be installed, but I do not see the xf86config program /usr/X11R6/bin . The only files in that directory are cardinfo and gxditview . I would like to get X running, and I know that the graphics chips in the laptop support 800x600x16M colors at 60Hz, but I am at a loss about what I need to do next. anXious doesn't recognize the chipset, probably because its an AGP version. Others have had success with Toshiba laptops, so I think it's something I missed somewhere... The second problem is that man is MIA... leaving me pretty much in the dark. in particular, I want to mount the cdrom to see what's hiding on the B1 disk... Any help would be much appreciated. Nate
Re: Parallel Printer Port Problem
Jo, et al; I tried the echo redirect below and was told 'permission denied', so I tried it as root and it worked, the printer printed the message. I chmod 0666 /dev/lp0 and it worked without su. I tried tried lpr -Plp and it wouldn't work with or without su. On the magicfilter config, are you talking about the printcap file? That was generated by the magicfilterconfig utility, and I deleted and recreated this file several times. Here's what it looks like: The lpd.conf file has all options commented out. The lpd.perms file looks fine: ## You can make sure that connections come from a privileged port. ## Default is to allow them from any port so that non-setuid programs # can do printing. # Totally RFC1179 #REJECT SERVICE=X NOT PORT=1-1023 #REJECT SERVICE=X NOT PORT=1-1023 # Privileged #REJECT SERVICE=X NOT PORT=721-731 # # allow root on server to control jobs ACCEPT SERVICE=C SERVER REMOTEUSER=root # allow anybody to get server, status, and printcap ACCEPT SERVICE=C LPC=lpd,status,printcap # reject all others REJECT SERVICE=C # # allow same user on originating host to remove a job ACCEPT SERVICE=M SAMEHOST SAMEUSER # allow root on server to remove a job ACCEPT SERVICE=M SERVER REMOTEUSER=root REJECT SERVICE=M # all other operations allowed DEFAULT ACCEPT Any other ideas? thanks, jc --- # This file was generated by /usr/sbin/magicfilterconfig. # lp|dj952c|HP Deskjet 952C:\ :lp=/dev/lp0:sd=/var/spool/lpd/dj952c:\ :sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0:\ :if=/etc/magicfilter/dj690c-best-filter:\ :af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs: Also, nothing is being logged and nothing shows up in the queue (lpq). On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 10:32:42AM +, Jo Geraerts wrote: > Hello, > > On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, Jeffrey S. Coppock wrote: > > > Jan 4 07:36:20 localhost kernel: parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778), irq 7, dma >3 [SPP,ECP,ECPPS2] > > Jan 4 07:36:21 localhost kernel: parport_probe: succeeded > > Jan 4 07:36:21 localhost kernel: parport0: Printer, HEWLETT-PACKARD DESKJET 950C > > Jan 4 07:36:21 localhost kernel: lp0: using parport0 (interrupt-driven). > > I've re-installed magicfilter, but that didn't help either. > > Does it print if you run the following command: > > echo "this is a test">/dev/lp0 > > If it doesn't, take another look to the log's for errors. If it does, > there's something wrong with your magicfilter config > > Greetz, > Jo -- ** Jeff Coppock Nortel Networks IP Services email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (408) 565-3848 :Office ESN: 655 (510) 703-5910 :Mobile (925) 292-1156 :Home Office -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Stolen laptop - how to increase security?
> Regarding the laptop-protection daemon.. > > > In the case somebody unpluggs the machine while under the xlock (without > > giving the password), then the daemon would detect it and could start doing > > some preventive action, such as: > > - playing a sound with maximum volume saying "I am getting stolen". > > "I am getting stolen. Please plug the power back in! > > I have contacted the police on my wireless modem, > and told them my GPS coordinates. > > They already have your fingerprints." Hmm, hard to tell if this was for grins, or serious... I can see it either way. [These are examples, not real, but...] Errr, so the building's power goes out because some dork across the city ran his truck into a pole, and every laptop whose owner was in a meeting starts crying "eek" or whatever. At the top of its speaker range of course. Errr(2) so there I am at the coffee house and they decide to tell us that it's closing time by flipping the power off for a minute or two til everyone shuts up. My machine had gotten "sleepy" only a moment before because I was watching a chess game, and... Errr(3) unbeknownst to you, somebody in the next apartment over decides to plug their new microwave into a weak, shared circuit. -bzzt/pop- Since apartment walls are so thin they may as well be subwoofers, 6 different apartments (or more) hear the machine falsely cry out. Some of them surely are on the affected circuit too and clue in... but only one of them has to call 911 to make it all a major pain in the butt. (Plainer phones get their power from the phone line, you only need wall power for 900 MHz, speed dials and like that.) The wisdom of owning a laptop in a cheap apartment complex is a different matter, though you had hoped to protect your investment with some software tricks. Now all your neighbors know about your laptop :( [end example section] I can tell you, these wouldn't happen twice... Some sort of delay in the software would be wise. The first sound byte should just be something at local-volume level, "Warning! Power Lost! Please plug me back in!" Failure to respond with the password (whether or not you restore power) leads to the rest of the sequence. * Heather Stern * star@ many places... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: advice on upgrading hard drive and cpu of laptop
I checked the lap-top. the CPU is mounted on some kind of board, and then the board is mounted on some kind of socket.. I am fairly new to hard-ware manipulations as this, but have worked before on archaic intel 8085 8086 chips and is this Athlon 150 Mhz 5x86 chip supported in Linux?? Thanks, Praveen Kamath On Fri, 5 Jan 2001, Russell Coker wrote: > On Friday 05 January 2001 14:25, Kamath wrote: > > I think you are speaking something of what I am looking for here!! > > I have been thinking seriously about upgrading my lap-top, which has > > survived long... > > I have a "toy" 486 lap-top (486 DX4 75 Mhz to be precise) And how can I > > upgrade the processor etc on this please!! > > > > My laptop is a Compaq LTE Elite 4/75 CX > > > > any places where I can get info on how to upgrade this lap-top?? from 486 > > to say a reasonable speed pentium processor?? > > The main criteria is whether the CPU is socketed or soldered onto the > motherboard. If it's soldered in then there's nothing you can do. If it's > socketed then you can find a better CPU that fits the socket. > > AMD used to sell 5x86 CPUs that went in 486 sockets and were considerably > faster than 486 CPUs. You could probably get a 5x86 at 150MHz to fit in the > same socket which would be 4 times faster if you can find one. They haven't > been sold new for years so it'll take a bit of luck to find one. > > -- > http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark > http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark > http://www.coker.com.au/projects.html Projects I am working on > http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: hard disk drive
G'Day !
I'm interested in what happened in your fdisk session. Where you able to create partitions ? Could you "save" your work on the partition table ?
"Device not configured" is also curious ... I wonder if you need to specify the disk geometry to lilo (I'm guessing here) I would look at the problem like it was a partition table problem. You did something right if fdisk can see it.
I'm not real familiar with laptops ... I'd be more help on a desktop/server system. Perhaps someone like Heather would be able to help you more.
cheers,
Jim Parker
Sailboat racing is not a matter of life and death It is far more important than that !!!
Kamath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
01/05/01 11:36 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: hard disk drive
thanks for the response.
I tried mounting the disk as hdb, hdb1 etc... but it wouldn't mount. I get
the error device not configured.
I tried making a filesystem too, but even that gives the same error as
device not configured.
I tried the hard0drive jumper settings as a primary-master as well as the
primary slave.
The disk is an enhanced IDE drive. are there any special drivers needed
for accessing EIDE drives in linux??
and if so where can i get these drivers?
in windows I am not sure how the whole set-up works I have contacted
compaq support but there arent too very hepl ful. they say the model is
out-dated (Compaq LTE Elite, and the dock is compaq Smartstation). and I
am not sure of the interface(what sort?? looks like SCSI to me or maybe
PCMCIA type III) the computer uses to attach to the docking bay.
any help will be appreciated.
thanks,
praveen kamath
On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> G'Day !
>
> Are you saying that fdisk recognizes your new hd as /dev/hdb, but you can
> not mount it ?
>
> Once in fdisk ... Did you partition the drive ? Did you create a
> filesystem on those new partitions ? Did you use the mount command to
> access the drive ("mount -t ext2 /dev/hdb1" as root) ?
>
> Does anyone know how to do it in windows (is it a secondary slave, or
> maybe a secondary master ? ), it should be similar, as far as the hardware
> is concerned.
>
> cheers,
> Jim Parker
>
> Sailboat racing is not a matter of life and death It is far more
> important than that !!!
>
>
>
>
> Kamath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 01/05/01 02:43 AM
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> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> cc:
> Subject: hard disk drive
>
> Hello all--
>
> I need some help from someone who has used docking stations. I have a
> Compaq LTE Elite laptop with the Compaq smart-station. I have added an
> additional hard-disk to the docking station, and would like to access this
> additional hard-disk via the docking station.
>
> The additional Hard disk is desk-top EIDE hard-drive and I tried
> configuring it as the Primary master as well as the Slave but I get the
> message "unable to open device" when I try to do a fdisk on the new disk,
> it appears the diskette is recognised as /dev/hdb
>
> Can anyone help me!!
>
>
> Thanks,
> Praveen
>
>
>
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Re: advice on upgrading hard drive and cpu of laptop
On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 02:47:43PM -0500, Kamath wrote: > and is this Athlon 150 Mhz 5x86 chip supported in Linux?? AMD, not Athlon. I have an old 133 MHz 5x86 that runs Linux without problems. -- Lee Bradshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas Instruments[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: trapped in the throes of install...
At 06:05 PM 1/5/01 -0600, you wrote: >Hi all, > > I've downloaded the Debian 2.2r2 B1 image, and have been attempting to > install it on a >Toshiba 1715XCDS Laptop. I've successfully repartitioned the Hard Disk, >Installed the >kernel and created a user account, but I have 2 problems which are >frustrating my efforts. > >The first of these is the install when run with dselect indicated that >XFree86 would be installed, >but I do not see the xf86config program /usr/X11R6/bin . The only files >in that directory are >cardinfo and gxditview . > >I would like to get X running, and I know that the graphics chips in the >laptop support 800x600x16M colors at 60Hz, >but I am at a loss about what I need to do next. anXious doesn't >recognize the chipset, probably because its an AGP >version. Others have had success with Toshiba laptops, so I think it's >something I missed somewhere... > > >The second problem is that man is MIA... leaving me pretty much in the >dark. in particular, I want to mount the cdrom >to see what's hiding on the B1 disk... I'm not positive but it sounds to me like you need to get the B2 image, Potato binaries are on 2 disks and AFAIK you need both of them as they each have some of the important base stuff and some other things as well. > >Any help would be much appreciated. > >Nate -- 73 de KG6BZQ Matt M. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: advice on upgrading hard drive and cpu of laptop
On Saturday 06 January 2001 06:47, Kamath wrote: > I checked the lap-top. the CPU is mounted on some kind of board, and then > the board is mounted on some kind of socket.. I am fairly new to hard-ware > manipulations as this, but have worked before on archaic intel 8085 8086 > chips > > and is this Athlon 150 Mhz 5x86 chip supported in Linux?? Of course! Linux runs on all Intel compatible CPUs. -- http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/projects.html Projects I am working on http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
