dselect
Hello Debian-World, I wanted to update my system yesterday with dselect, but somehow, I must have typed something wrong, because dselect wants to remove some important .debs (although they are marked as installed). My question: How do I tell dselect to "forget" this stupid selection, or even better, I want dselect to scan my system and to update its database accordingly (similar to rpm --rebuild-database) Thanks for your help in advance. Andreas -- Andreas Tscharner [EMAIL PROTECTED] - "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." -- Rich Cook
Re: Best Laptop?
> Sorry...I already deleted the original message, so I'll just respond to this > one... > > I'm using a Toshiba Satellite 2775XDVD, and I'm thoroughly impressed. > I bought a Netgear FA510c eth card, compiled the cardbus and tulip modules > that came with my kernel (test7; didn't try the one off the disk, but at > least it was there...), and it worked off the bat. Unfortunately, it came > with a Lucent Winmodem, but the modem worked perfectly with the ltmodem > driver. Anybody know if Lucent will cough up anything for the 2.4 series? > It uses a Maestro 2E, which was originally supported in kernel 2.2.14. > > The only problems that I have encountered so far are: > (1) The Savage IX/MV that it comes with requires the special X Server > available from S3 and somewhere else (forget where), which can and does cause > hardware lockups (it's still beta...problems should be ironed out soon) > (2) Suspend-to-ram works perfectly, but it doesn't wake up when it's supposed > to, and when I wake it up, there is no picture (might be a suspend vs. XF > prob though...) Try building framebuffer into your kernel (so that it will properly handle resetting the graphics mode - covers for the bugs in the savage X server when going back to text) and configuring your apm to switch to text mode before doing the suspend. If your machine isn't happy enough with the speed of doing it via script, fetch the source for the mandrake cooker version of apm, and compile it locally. They added it to the code and gave it a commandline switch, -g I think. * Heather Stern * star@ many places...
Re: console-apt (was: dist-upgrade-except-foo...)
> On Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 03:13:32PM -0800, Heather wrote: > ::snip:: > > But it sure beats the crap out of memorizing the availables list. > um...apt-cache? If I had more than one machine I was trying to do, that could be handy; it's not really much help for the first one. * Heather Stern * star@ many places...
Budget Laptop for Linux?
I'm looking at buying a low cost laptop to run Debian on. A lot of the big names are making low-end consumer laptops in the $1000-$1400 range like the IBM Thinkpad iSeries, the Compaq K6 laptops, etc. From the Laptops on Linux page, it looks like some folks have had problems getting some of these to work under Linux. I've also seen a lot of refurbished older laptops that were higher end models in the $399-$799 range. Usually P133-233 range, with 32Mb+, 2GB hard drives, etc. A lot of these seem to have more support under Linux because many of the problems have been worked out since they came out. What is the better choice for a Linux laptop? I know Linux can make better use of older hardware, but is that a better way to go than the low end, cheap new hardware? Thanks, Kent Pirkle
Re: Budget Laptop for Linux?
On Fri, 17 Nov 2000 05:29:30 -0500 Kent Pirkle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: KP> I'm looking at buying a low cost laptop to run Debian on. KP> KP> A lot of the big names are making low-end consumer laptops KP> in the $1000-$1400 range like the IBM Thinkpad iSeries, the KP> Compaq K6 laptops, etc. From the Laptops on Linux page, it KP> looks like some folks have had problems getting some of these KP> to work under Linux. KP> KP> I've also seen a lot of refurbished older laptops that were KP> higher end models in the $399-$799 range. Usually P133-233 range, KP> with 32Mb+, 2GB hard drives, etc. A lot of these seem to have KP> more support under Linux because many of the problems have been KP> worked out since they came out. I paid $1500 for my Sony Vaio PCG-505TS - and I am happy with it and Debian. I think, that you may buy it for less price in your country. It is P-300 MMX, with 64 Mb RAM and 4 Gb HDD - it is quite anought for Debial Linux, but you can upgrade RAM to 128 Mb. PS. One more - it is superslim with only 1.25 Kg weight. KP> KP> Thanks, KP> KP> Kent Pirkle KP> KP> KP> -- KP> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] KP> with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Best Regards. Alexey Kakunin, M.Sc.
apt-get dist-upgrade-except-foo1[-and-foo2] ?
Hi all, I get several responses, groupable in two solutions: 1) put the packages to hold; 2) mark my custom packages with epoch >= 1 Tried the first without success (actually I think I had them in hold when I first wrote to the list); I'll try 2nd approach whenever I have a night to spend :) Thank you all for your quick responses, JM > Hi everyone > > Recently I compiled myself a kernel and packed it with the aid of > kernel-package. I ended up with two .debs, > kernel-image-2.2.17_kermit.1_i386.deb > pcmcia-modules-2.2.17_3.1.8-16+kermit.1_i386.deb > with suit my laptop setup (now it powers off and pcmcia works fine). > > Now, I'm living on the edge with woody, and everytime I run 'apt-get > dist-upgrade' I am told to upgrade these two packages, which means kernel > freezing on pcmcia insertion and no automagic power-off. > Question is: Is there a way of upgrade all but these two (or any other) > packages? -- Juan Miguel Bocanegra Morón <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> SATEC - Marina 16-18, 9 D - 08005 Barcelona (SPAIN) voice +34 932256920 fax.: +34 932251811
Re: Budget Laptop for Linux?
Hello, About a year ago I picked up an IBM Thinkpad 560 (ultra portable, came out in '96) to experiment with Linux on. Because it did not have a builtin CDROM, I had to learn a lot about Linux, to get started, but I ended up getting everything to work on it. My advice is to get a laptop with a builtin CDROM, and your life will be a bit easier. John From: Kent Pirkle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: debian-laptop@lists.debian.org Subject: Budget Laptop for Linux? Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 05:29:30 -0500 I'm looking at buying a low cost laptop to run Debian on. A lot of the big names are making low-end consumer laptops in the $1000-$1400 range like the IBM Thinkpad iSeries, the Compaq K6 laptops, etc. From the Laptops on Linux page, it looks like some folks have had problems getting some of these to work under Linux. I've also seen a lot of refurbished older laptops that were higher end models in the $399-$799 range. Usually P133-233 range, with 32Mb+, 2GB hard drives, etc. A lot of these seem to have more support under Linux because many of the problems have been worked out since they came out. What is the better choice for a Linux laptop? I know Linux can make better use of older hardware, but is that a better way to go than the low end, cheap new hardware? Thanks, Kent Pirkle -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: Budget Laptop for Linux?
On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 04:10:09PM +, John Miskinis wrote: >About a year ago I picked up an IBM Thinkpad 560 > (ultra portable, came out in '96) to experiment with > Linux on. > >Because it did not have a builtin CDROM, I had to > learn a lot about Linux, to get started, but I ended up > getting everything to work on it. > >My advice is to get a laptop with a builtin CDROM, and > your life will be a bit easier. > I've installed debian on an old NEC Versa (486/75) and never found its lack of cdrom drive to be a detriment when I was installing. (I did a network install). If you need to install via cdrom (for whatever reason) then, obviously, a built in cdrom drive makes things easier. -- David Karlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Powered by Debian GNU/Linux
Re: dselect
Andreas Tscharner wrote: > > Hello Debian-World, > > I wanted to update my system yesterday with dselect, but somehow, I must > have typed something wrong, because dselect wants to remove some important > .debs (although they are marked as installed). > My question: How do I tell dselect to "forget" this stupid selection, or > even better, I want dselect to scan my system and to update its database > accordingly (similar to rpm --rebuild-database) don't use dselect. use apt-get and dpkg > > Thanks for your help in advance. > Andreas > -- > Andreas Tscharner [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - > "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build > bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce > bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." -- Rich Cook > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- bye, alias m.nine.six.
Re: dselect
G'Day ! Yeah I tried to Upgrade my desktop with dselect instead of apt-get and dpkg And I trashed my system :-( I finally got it working enough to boot so I can recover my files, but unless someone can show me a better way, I will need to reinstall from scratch then do a restore from backup :-( cheers, Jim Parker Sailboat racing is not a matter of life and death It is far more important than that !!! "m.nine.six" Sent by: mcm To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: debian-laptop@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: dselect 11/17/00 09:22 AM Andreas Tscharner wrote: > > Hello Debian-World, > > I wanted to update my system yesterday with dselect, but somehow, I must > have typed something wrong, because dselect wants to remove some important > .debs (although they are marked as installed). > My question: How do I tell dselect to "forget" this stupid selection, or > even better, I want dselect to scan my system and to update its database > accordingly (similar to rpm --rebuild-database) don't use dselect. use apt-get and dpkg > > Thanks for your help in advance. > Andreas > -- > Andreas Tscharner [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - > "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build > bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce > bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." -- Rich Cook > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- bye, alias m.nine.six. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Budget Laptop for Linux?
> >About a year ago I picked up an IBM Thinkpad 560 > > (ultra portable, came out in '96) to experiment with > > Linux on. > > > >Because it did not have a builtin CDROM, I had to > > learn a lot about Linux, to get started, but I ended up > > getting everything to work on it. > > > >My advice is to get a laptop with a builtin CDROM, and > > your life will be a bit easier. > > > > I've installed debian on an old NEC Versa (486/75) and never > found its lack of cdrom drive to be a detriment when I was > installing. (I did a network install). > > If you need to install via cdrom (for whatever reason) then, > obviously, a built in cdrom drive makes things easier. A PCMCIA based cdrom also works fine - as long as your cardbus is supported, the standard install process can invoke it. At least it worked for me - I have an Addonics ATAPI CD. Recently I went to the store looking for Addonics' CDRW because I figured it might have similar form factor - but could only find stuff that makes a big deal about its zoomed-video support. I recall reading that this is not quite the same as normal cardbus and can certainly fry an older bay, so I didn't buy it. You might want to beware the same problem. And if anyone knows more detail about zoomed-video with regards to cardbus, enlighten me further :) * Heather Stern * star@ many places...
Re: apt-get dist-upgrade-except-foo1[-and-foo2] ?
> Hi all, > > I get several responses, groupable in two solutions: > > 1) put the packages to hold; > 2) mark my custom packages with epoch >= 1 > > Tried the first without success (actually I think I had them in hold when I > first wrote to the list); I'll try 2nd approach whenever I have a night to > spend :) I encountered one case where hold didn't seem to work, but I was doing some things fast enough I thought I'd just done something wrong (and it didn't need doing twice, so I left it alone). Maybe there is something more nasty going on here? > Thank you all for your quick responses, > JM > > > Hi everyone > > > > Recently I compiled myself a kernel and packed it with the aid of > > kernel-package. I ended up with two .debs, > > kernel-image-2.2.17_kermit.1_i386.deb > > pcmcia-modules-2.2.17_3.1.8-16+kermit.1_i386.deb > > with suit my laptop setup (now it powers off and pcmcia works fine). > > > > Now, I'm living on the edge with woody, and everytime I run 'apt-get > > dist-upgrade' I am told to upgrade these two packages, which means kernel > > freezing on pcmcia insertion and no automagic power-off. the no automagic power-off may be because of those desktop folk running the kernel packages, building in apm but defaulting it to off. If your pcmcia happens to be sensitive to apm issues it *might* fix that too, but it might not. > > Question is: Is there a way of upgrade all but these two (or any other) > > packages? the immutable bit often helps. chattr +i file-to-keep-package-from-ruining * Heather Stern * star@ many places...
Re: dselect
On Friday 17 November 2000 11:22, m.nine.six wrote: > don't use dselect. use apt-get and dpkg > > > Thanks for your help in advance. > > Andreas Is there a way to get apt-get or dpkg to tell you about suggested packages? This can make the difference between having something _technically_ installed, and having the installation be usefull. So far as I know, dselect is the only package manager that does this and is stable too. As for how to fix this problem, I'd suggest just taking note of what dselect want's to uninstall, then seek out those packages from the select screen and mark them to be "installed", which will un-do the removal mark. -- Did you know that if you play a Windows 2000 cd backwards, you will hear the voice of Satan? That's nothing! If you play it forward, it'll install Windows 2000.
Re: Budget Laptop for Linux?
This depends alot on what you wan't to use it for. My Compaq Armada has a 850 MB HD, which is plenty for my use ( although an extra gig, never hurts :-). It's an 75 MHz Pentium processor with 16 MB RAM, enough for fvwm, XF4 and emacs. I tried using gnome on it, but that was simple too much for it. If i had to chooce between extra MHz extra HD or extra RAM, i think i would go for RAM, that would make compiling c, running python and translating latex documents, a lot easier. Just my 5 cents. -- Best Regards / Venlig Hilsen Rasmus Toftdahl Olesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://halfdan.dyndns.org
Re: dselect
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > G'Day ! > > Yeah I tried to Upgrade my desktop with dselect instead of apt-get and dpkg > > And I trashed my system :-( I finally got it working enough to boot so I can > recover my files, but unless someone can show me a better way, I will need to > reinstall from scratch then do a restore from backup :-( I don't understand. Doesn't dselect use apt-get to install software? (Unless you have the packages on a CD, I suppose.) I've always used dselect, and if it did something that hurt the system, it was always while running apt-get. Please explain further. -Adam P. Welcome to the best software in the world today cafe!
Compaq Armada 1130 XF86Config problem?!?
I have problem using Xfree on Compaq Armada 1130 The chipset is a CLGD7548 and I`ve XF3.3.6 (my chipset is unsupported in XF4! :( ) I`m searching for XF86Config that permit 800x600 resolution and 16 bpp. Please Help Me ;) Best Regard s. -- .''`. Simone Merli : :' : E-Mail: simoz(at)ada2.unipv.it `. `' TiLUG Member (Ticinum Linux User Group) `- Home: http://ada2.unipv.it/~simozDebian GNU/Linux 2.3
Re: dselect
G'Day ! I forget which package it choked on (maybe libpam0) ... basically a package needs libpam0 but libpam0 cann't update till I've upgraded the other package, a real Catch-22. So now it is stuck in this limbo state of packages installed but not configured properly. When I went back thru the documentation ... it warned me of this, I just did not read it. My mistake, getting too lazy to read manuals. I have avoided these problems on my laptop by just installing the base system, then installing the packages one at a time via dpkg as I discover I need/want them. cheers, Jim Parker Sailboat racing is not a matter of life and death It is far more important than that !!! Adam C Powell IV To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: cc: debian-laptop@lists.debian.org hazelsct Subject: Re: dselect 11/17/00 11:55 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > G'Day ! > > Yeah I tried to Upgrade my desktop with dselect instead of apt-get and dpkg > And I trashed my system :-( I finally got it working enough to boot so I can > recover my files, but unless someone can show me a better way, I will need to > reinstall from scratch then do a restore from backup :-( I don't understand. Doesn't dselect use apt-get to install software? (Unless you have the packages on a CD, I suppose.) I've always used dselect, and if it did something that hurt the system, it was always while running apt-get. Please explain further. -Adam P. Welcome to the best software in the world today cafe! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: console-apt (was: dist-upgrade-except-foo...)
Heather <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If you last used it before about February or so (maybe earlier...) its > interface has changed immensely, and is a lot more like aptitude now. It > even has real menus. Heh, heh. No, I tried it a couple weeks ago. Actually I was pretty impressed with the interface, and the nice extras like selecting the sort/grouping orders. The problem that I had was that I spent over an hour in capt, selecting the packages I wanted to install, and then, when I went to install them, it crashed on me, causing me to lose my selections. > Avoiding *having* to tag all the deps myself was why I switched to debian > in the first place. But capt, at least in its present state, does not > actually begin the download without having you confirm... you have a chance > to bail on evil selections. Although aptitude makes you select the deps yourself, it presents it in a nice way, so that they're easy to find. You ask it for the deps for each package you want to install, and it lists them all out, by how important they are (depends, recommends, suggests, etc.). And you tag these packages for installation from this list (IIRC, from my brief encounter with it, capt didn't let you do this). Having to tag all the deps can be annoying, but, for what I use aptitude for (which is just maintenance and installing the occasional new package), it works great. And it's fun looking at the dependencies (at least for me). I also like the fact that I can run aptitude as a non-root user, and look at what packages are available. Hubert
dell inspiron 4000, 3com miniPCI 3c556 (vortex)
Hey all, New to the list, new to notebooks, using debian for over a year, and linux since 0.99pl14 ;-) So I've recently got myself a Dell Inspiron 4000 and am having trouble getting the 3Com miniPCI NIC working. I've got potato installed on the machine (base + a few bits) but whenever I try to load the 3c59x (vortex) kernel module, it craps out with (paraphrased): "device or resource busy". This happens whether I'm in the Debian install utility or working in a virtual console on the installed system. (FWIW, I grabbed the 2.2r1 install floppies and tried again -- no dice.) As an aside, I get the same error when trying to load the Maestro module for sound -- though I'm really not concerned about getting sound working at the moment. I verified that the card (and the other hardware) were working fine under the preinstalled windoze environment before blowing it away and the NIC continues to work fine under the FreeBSD installation I have on another partition. Web searches had led me to the home page for a fellow named Fred Maciel who had apparently patched Donald Becker's vortex driver to support this card and the notes on the web page indicated that the patches had been included in kernel 2.2.17. However, Fred's home page seems to have disappeared (It was at http://www2.neweb.ne.jp/wd/fbm/3c556/ ) I was all set to get fresh kernel sources and try to apply the patch myself to see if that would get things working but, well, the patches went with the page :-( Anyone have experiences/suggestions/etc.? Thanks, Samir
Re: dselect
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > G'Day ! > > I forget which package it choked on (maybe libpam0) ... basically a package > needs libpam0 but libpam0 cann't update till I've upgraded the other package, > a > real Catch-22. So now it is stuck in this limbo state of packages installed > but > not configured properly. > > When I went back thru the documentation ... it warned me of this, I just did > not > read it. My mistake, getting too lazy to read manuals. Right, but I've had this problem with "apt-get dist-upgrade" too. That's not a dselect problem at all. This is why one has to be careful about holding -all debs which interdepend with -i386 (or whatever) debs, like when locales-2.2 recently came out before most arches' libc6-2.2. I guess Intel users have the luxury of not having to worry about this too much since most devs upload i386 debs, but us non-i386 unstable users (like pre-potato PPC and ARM) have *always* had this problem for *almost all* packages. Any other "dselect bugs" out there? -Adam P. Welcome to the best software in the world today cafe!
Re: dell inspiron 4000, 3com miniPCI 3c556 (vortex)
> I've got potato installed on the machine (base + a few bits) but > whenever I try to load the 3c59x (vortex) kernel module, it > craps out with (paraphrased): "device or resource busy". ... > I verified that the card (and the other hardware) were working > fine under the preinstalled windoze environment before blowing > it away and the NIC continues to work fine under the FreeBSD > installation I have on another partition. > > Web searches had led me to the home page for a fellow named > Fred Maciel who had apparently patched Donald Becker's vortex > driver to support this card and the notes on the web page > indicated that the patches had been included in kernel 2.2.17. > > However, Fred's home page seems to have disappeared > (It was at http://www2.neweb.ne.jp/wd/fbm/3c556/ ) > > I was all set to get fresh kernel sources and try to apply the > patch myself to see if that would get things working but, well, > the patches went with the page :-( You might want to check the changelog for 2.2.18pre ... he is quite a sound fan, so he might have fixed it while you weren't looking, or alternatively, it would be worth letting him know that it still isn't handled properly. > Anyone have experiences/suggestions/etc.? Yeah, when you succeed, make a deb for yourself with your kernel parts, and keep it in a safe place in case you need it. * Heather Stern * star@ many places...
Re: Can't boot into Linux after Install
+++ Heather <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Yeah... boot off a rescue disk (my favorites: Tom's rtbt, or Linuxcare's > BBC), mount up the drive's partitions in the right order, chroot into the > environment, then dpkg --purge pcmcia-cs. (That'll get it out of the init > scripts, as well as getting rid of its control files so they don't waste > space for you). I'm sure, that he solved the problem already, but for the next time IMHO it is sufficient to boot with a boot parameter: linux init=/bin/sh ... and remove the link in /etc/rcS.d to the init script concerning the problem (after mounting the root filesystem). After the next normally boot you can remove the package as you described above. so long, Mario -- +-+ | Mario Peterde,pl,eng| | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]| | 39124 Magdeburg http://www.mpeter.de| +-+
Re: Toshiba Satellite Boot problems
+++ Drew Parsons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Come to mention it, I've had problems with the potato boot disk too, on a > Toshiba 490CDT. It won't boot off the CD, just doesn't see it, if I recall > correctly. Other CDs (e.g. slink, what I originally installed Debian off) > boot fine, so I thought it might have just been a poor quality CD. But when > I checked it on someone else's computer, it booted fine on their computer. > Strange. Me to! I have a Toshiba T8100, and the Potato boot disk does not boot from it. Other bootable disks (RH 6.2, SuSE 7.0) are ok, so IMHO there must be a problem with disk image. However, it boots right on my desktop, but this is a 24x, the t8100 have a 42x. Perhaps this is the reason... Mario -- +-+ | Mario Peterde,pl,eng| | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]| | 39124 Magdeburg http://www.mpeter.de| +-+
Re: Budget laptop for linux
I installed debian on an old total peripherals 486dx4100 - no cd rom. I used base floppies ,installed samba and then used dselect through a network connection to my other pc with a cdrom. Everything works fine - pcmcia, modem , touch mouse pad in X (X was the hardest thing to configure) Lappie cost me $100.
Re: Best Laptop?
> Sorry...I already deleted the original message, so I'll just respond to this one... > > I'm using a Toshiba Satellite 2775XDVD, and I'm thoroughly impressed. I >bought a Netgear FA510c eth card, compiled the cardbus and tulip modules that came >with my kernel (test7; didn't try the one off the disk, but at least it was >there...), and it worked off the bat. Unfortunately, it came with a Lucent Winmodem, >but the modem worked perfectly with the ltmodem driver. Anybody know if Lucent will cough up anything for the 2.4 series? > It uses a Maestro 2E, which was originally supported in kernel 2.2.14. > > The only problems that I have encountered so far are: > (1) The Savage IX/MV that it comes with requires the special X Server available from >S3 and somewhere else (forget where), which can and does cause hardware lockups (it's >still beta...problems should be ironed out soon) > (2) Suspend-to-ram works perfectly, but it doesn't wake up when it's supposed to, >and when I wake it up, there is no picture (might be a suspend vs. XF prob though...) Try building framebuffer into your kernel (so that it will properly handle resetting the graphics mode - covers for the bugs in the savage X server when going back to text) and configuring your apm to switch to text mode before doing the suspend. If your machine isn't happy enough with the speed of doing it via script, fetch the source for the mandrake cooker version of apm, and compile it locally. They added it to the code and gave it a commandline switch, -g I think. * Heather Stern * star@ many places... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: console-apt (was: dist-upgrade-except-foo...)
> On Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 03:13:32PM -0800, Heather wrote: > ::snip:: > > But it sure beats the crap out of memorizing the availables list. > um...apt-cache? If I had more than one machine I was trying to do, that could be handy; it's not really much help for the first one. * Heather Stern * star@ many places... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Budget Laptop for Linux?
I'm looking at buying a low cost laptop to run Debian on. A lot of the big names are making low-end consumer laptops in the $1000-$1400 range like the IBM Thinkpad iSeries, the Compaq K6 laptops, etc. From the Laptops on Linux page, it looks like some folks have had problems getting some of these to work under Linux. I've also seen a lot of refurbished older laptops that were higher end models in the $399-$799 range. Usually P133-233 range, with 32Mb+, 2GB hard drives, etc. A lot of these seem to have more support under Linux because many of the problems have been worked out since they came out. What is the better choice for a Linux laptop? I know Linux can make better use of older hardware, but is that a better way to go than the low end, cheap new hardware? Thanks, Kent Pirkle -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Budget Laptop for Linux?
On Fri, 17 Nov 2000 05:29:30 -0500 Kent Pirkle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: KP> I'm looking at buying a low cost laptop to run Debian on. KP> KP> A lot of the big names are making low-end consumer laptops KP> in the $1000-$1400 range like the IBM Thinkpad iSeries, the KP> Compaq K6 laptops, etc. From the Laptops on Linux page, it KP> looks like some folks have had problems getting some of these KP> to work under Linux. KP> KP> I've also seen a lot of refurbished older laptops that were KP> higher end models in the $399-$799 range. Usually P133-233 range, KP> with 32Mb+, 2GB hard drives, etc. A lot of these seem to have KP> more support under Linux because many of the problems have been KP> worked out since they came out. I paid $1500 for my Sony Vaio PCG-505TS - and I am happy with it and Debian. I think, that you may buy it for less price in your country. It is P-300 MMX, with 64 Mb RAM and 4 Gb HDD - it is quite anought for Debial Linux, but you can upgrade RAM to 128 Mb. PS. One more - it is superslim with only 1.25 Kg weight. KP> KP> Thanks, KP> KP> Kent Pirkle KP> KP> KP> -- KP> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] KP> with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Best Regards. Alexey Kakunin, M.Sc. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
apt-get dist-upgrade-except-foo1[-and-foo2] ?
Hi all, I get several responses, groupable in two solutions: 1) put the packages to hold; 2) mark my custom packages with epoch >= 1 Tried the first without success (actually I think I had them in hold when I first wrote to the list); I'll try 2nd approach whenever I have a night to spend :) Thank you all for your quick responses, JM > Hi everyone > > Recently I compiled myself a kernel and packed it with the aid of > kernel-package. I ended up with two .debs, > kernel-image-2.2.17_kermit.1_i386.deb > pcmcia-modules-2.2.17_3.1.8-16+kermit.1_i386.deb > with suit my laptop setup (now it powers off and pcmcia works fine). > > Now, I'm living on the edge with woody, and everytime I run 'apt-get > dist-upgrade' I am told to upgrade these two packages, which means kernel > freezing on pcmcia insertion and no automagic power-off. > Question is: Is there a way of upgrade all but these two (or any other) > packages? -- Juan Miguel Bocanegra Morón <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> SATEC - Marina 16-18, 9 D - 08005 Barcelona (SPAIN) voice +34 932256920 fax.: +34 932251811 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Budget Laptop for Linux?
Hello, About a year ago I picked up an IBM Thinkpad 560 (ultra portable, came out in '96) to experiment with Linux on. Because it did not have a builtin CDROM, I had to learn a lot about Linux, to get started, but I ended up getting everything to work on it. My advice is to get a laptop with a builtin CDROM, and your life will be a bit easier. John >From: Kent Pirkle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Budget Laptop for Linux? >Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 05:29:30 -0500 > >I'm looking at buying a low cost laptop to run Debian on. > >A lot of the big names are making low-end consumer laptops >in the $1000-$1400 range like the IBM Thinkpad iSeries, the >Compaq K6 laptops, etc. From the Laptops on Linux page, it >looks like some folks have had problems getting some of these >to work under Linux. > >I've also seen a lot of refurbished older laptops that were >higher end models in the $399-$799 range. Usually P133-233 range, >with 32Mb+, 2GB hard drives, etc. A lot of these seem to have >more support under Linux because many of the problems have been >worked out since they came out. > >What is the better choice for a Linux laptop? I know Linux can >make better use of older hardware, but is that a better way to >go than the low end, cheap new hardware? > >Thanks, > >Kent Pirkle > > >-- >To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Budget Laptop for Linux?
On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 04:10:09PM +, John Miskinis wrote: >About a year ago I picked up an IBM Thinkpad 560 > (ultra portable, came out in '96) to experiment with > Linux on. > >Because it did not have a builtin CDROM, I had to > learn a lot about Linux, to get started, but I ended up > getting everything to work on it. > >My advice is to get a laptop with a builtin CDROM, and > your life will be a bit easier. > I've installed debian on an old NEC Versa (486/75) and never found its lack of cdrom drive to be a detriment when I was installing. (I did a network install). If you need to install via cdrom (for whatever reason) then, obviously, a built in cdrom drive makes things easier. -- David Karlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Powered by Debian GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dselect
Andreas Tscharner wrote: > > Hello Debian-World, > > I wanted to update my system yesterday with dselect, but somehow, I must > have typed something wrong, because dselect wants to remove some important > .debs (although they are marked as installed). > My question: How do I tell dselect to "forget" this stupid selection, or > even better, I want dselect to scan my system and to update its database > accordingly (similar to rpm --rebuild-database) don't use dselect. use apt-get and dpkg > > Thanks for your help in advance. > Andreas > -- > Andreas Tscharner [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - > "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build > bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce > bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." -- Rich Cook > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- bye, alias m.nine.six. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dselect
G'Day ! Yeah I tried to Upgrade my desktop with dselect instead of apt-get and dpkg And I trashed my system :-( I finally got it working enough to boot so I can recover my files, but unless someone can show me a better way, I will need to reinstall from scratch then do a restore from backup :-( cheers, Jim Parker Sailboat racing is not a matter of life and death It is far more important than that !!! "m.nine.six" Sent by: mcm To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: dselect 11/17/00 09:22 AM Andreas Tscharner wrote: > > Hello Debian-World, > > I wanted to update my system yesterday with dselect, but somehow, I must > have typed something wrong, because dselect wants to remove some important > .debs (although they are marked as installed). > My question: How do I tell dselect to "forget" this stupid selection, or > even better, I want dselect to scan my system and to update its database > accordingly (similar to rpm --rebuild-database) don't use dselect. use apt-get and dpkg > > Thanks for your help in advance. > Andreas > -- > Andreas Tscharner [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - > "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build > bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce > bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." -- Rich Cook > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- bye, alias m.nine.six. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Budget Laptop for Linux?
> >About a year ago I picked up an IBM Thinkpad 560 > > (ultra portable, came out in '96) to experiment with > > Linux on. > > > >Because it did not have a builtin CDROM, I had to > > learn a lot about Linux, to get started, but I ended up > > getting everything to work on it. > > > >My advice is to get a laptop with a builtin CDROM, and > > your life will be a bit easier. > > > > I've installed debian on an old NEC Versa (486/75) and never > found its lack of cdrom drive to be a detriment when I was > installing. (I did a network install). > > If you need to install via cdrom (for whatever reason) then, > obviously, a built in cdrom drive makes things easier. A PCMCIA based cdrom also works fine - as long as your cardbus is supported, the standard install process can invoke it. At least it worked for me - I have an Addonics ATAPI CD. Recently I went to the store looking for Addonics' CDRW because I figured it might have similar form factor - but could only find stuff that makes a big deal about its zoomed-video support. I recall reading that this is not quite the same as normal cardbus and can certainly fry an older bay, so I didn't buy it. You might want to beware the same problem. And if anyone knows more detail about zoomed-video with regards to cardbus, enlighten me further :) * Heather Stern * star@ many places... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get dist-upgrade-except-foo1[-and-foo2] ?
> Hi all, > > I get several responses, groupable in two solutions: > > 1) put the packages to hold; > 2) mark my custom packages with epoch >= 1 > > Tried the first without success (actually I think I had them in hold when I > first wrote to the list); I'll try 2nd approach whenever I have a night to > spend :) I encountered one case where hold didn't seem to work, but I was doing some things fast enough I thought I'd just done something wrong (and it didn't need doing twice, so I left it alone). Maybe there is something more nasty going on here? > Thank you all for your quick responses, > JM > > > Hi everyone > > > > Recently I compiled myself a kernel and packed it with the aid of > > kernel-package. I ended up with two .debs, > > kernel-image-2.2.17_kermit.1_i386.deb > > pcmcia-modules-2.2.17_3.1.8-16+kermit.1_i386.deb > > with suit my laptop setup (now it powers off and pcmcia works fine). > > > > Now, I'm living on the edge with woody, and everytime I run 'apt-get > > dist-upgrade' I am told to upgrade these two packages, which means kernel > > freezing on pcmcia insertion and no automagic power-off. the no automagic power-off may be because of those desktop folk running the kernel packages, building in apm but defaulting it to off. If your pcmcia happens to be sensitive to apm issues it *might* fix that too, but it might not. > > Question is: Is there a way of upgrade all but these two (or any other) > > packages? the immutable bit often helps. chattr +i file-to-keep-package-from-ruining * Heather Stern * star@ many places... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dselect
On Friday 17 November 2000 11:22, m.nine.six wrote: > don't use dselect. use apt-get and dpkg > > > Thanks for your help in advance. > > Andreas Is there a way to get apt-get or dpkg to tell you about suggested packages? This can make the difference between having something _technically_ installed, and having the installation be usefull. So far as I know, dselect is the only package manager that does this and is stable too. As for how to fix this problem, I'd suggest just taking note of what dselect want's to uninstall, then seek out those packages from the select screen and mark them to be "installed", which will un-do the removal mark. -- Did you know that if you play a Windows 2000 cd backwards, you will hear the voice of Satan? That's nothing! If you play it forward, it'll install Windows 2000. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Budget Laptop for Linux?
This depends alot on what you wan't to use it for. My Compaq Armada has a 850 MB HD, which is plenty for my use ( although an extra gig, never hurts :-). It's an 75 MHz Pentium processor with 16 MB RAM, enough for fvwm, XF4 and emacs. I tried using gnome on it, but that was simple too much for it. If i had to chooce between extra MHz extra HD or extra RAM, i think i would go for RAM, that would make compiling c, running python and translating latex documents, a lot easier. Just my 5 cents. -- Best Regards / Venlig Hilsen Rasmus Toftdahl Olesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://halfdan.dyndns.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dselect
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > G'Day ! > > Yeah I tried to Upgrade my desktop with dselect instead of apt-get and dpkg > And I trashed my system :-( I finally got it working enough to boot so I can > recover my files, but unless someone can show me a better way, I will need to > reinstall from scratch then do a restore from backup :-( I don't understand. Doesn't dselect use apt-get to install software? (Unless you have the packages on a CD, I suppose.) I've always used dselect, and if it did something that hurt the system, it was always while running apt-get. Please explain further. -Adam P. Welcome to the best software in the world today cafe! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Compaq Armada 1130 XF86Config problem?!?
I have problem using Xfree on Compaq Armada 1130 The chipset is a CLGD7548 and I`ve XF3.3.6 (my chipset is unsupported in XF4! :( ) I`m searching for XF86Config that permit 800x600 resolution and 16 bpp. Please Help Me ;) Best Regard s. -- .''`. Simone Merli : :' : E-Mail: simoz(at)ada2.unipv.it `. `' TiLUG Member (Ticinum Linux User Group) `- Home: http://ada2.unipv.it/~simozDebian GNU/Linux 2.3 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dselect
G'Day ! I forget which package it choked on (maybe libpam0) ... basically a package needs libpam0 but libpam0 cann't update till I've upgraded the other package, a real Catch-22. So now it is stuck in this limbo state of packages installed but not configured properly. When I went back thru the documentation ... it warned me of this, I just did not read it. My mistake, getting too lazy to read manuals. I have avoided these problems on my laptop by just installing the base system, then installing the packages one at a time via dpkg as I discover I need/want them. cheers, Jim Parker Sailboat racing is not a matter of life and death It is far more important than that !!! Adam C Powell IV To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] hazelsct Subject: Re: dselect 11/17/00 11:55 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > G'Day ! > > Yeah I tried to Upgrade my desktop with dselect instead of apt-get and dpkg > And I trashed my system :-( I finally got it working enough to boot so I can > recover my files, but unless someone can show me a better way, I will need to > reinstall from scratch then do a restore from backup :-( I don't understand. Doesn't dselect use apt-get to install software? (Unless you have the packages on a CD, I suppose.) I've always used dselect, and if it did something that hurt the system, it was always while running apt-get. Please explain further. -Adam P. Welcome to the best software in the world today cafe! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: console-apt (was: dist-upgrade-except-foo...)
Heather <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If you last used it before about February or so (maybe earlier...) its > interface has changed immensely, and is a lot more like aptitude now. It > even has real menus. Heh, heh. No, I tried it a couple weeks ago. Actually I was pretty impressed with the interface, and the nice extras like selecting the sort/grouping orders. The problem that I had was that I spent over an hour in capt, selecting the packages I wanted to install, and then, when I went to install them, it crashed on me, causing me to lose my selections. > Avoiding *having* to tag all the deps myself was why I switched to debian > in the first place. But capt, at least in its present state, does not > actually begin the download without having you confirm... you have a chance > to bail on evil selections. Although aptitude makes you select the deps yourself, it presents it in a nice way, so that they're easy to find. You ask it for the deps for each package you want to install, and it lists them all out, by how important they are (depends, recommends, suggests, etc.). And you tag these packages for installation from this list (IIRC, from my brief encounter with it, capt didn't let you do this). Having to tag all the deps can be annoying, but, for what I use aptitude for (which is just maintenance and installing the occasional new package), it works great. And it's fun looking at the dependencies (at least for me). I also like the fact that I can run aptitude as a non-root user, and look at what packages are available. Hubert -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dell inspiron 4000, 3com miniPCI 3c556 (vortex)
Hey all, New to the list, new to notebooks, using debian for over a year, and linux since 0.99pl14 ;-) So I've recently got myself a Dell Inspiron 4000 and am having trouble getting the 3Com miniPCI NIC working. I've got potato installed on the machine (base + a few bits) but whenever I try to load the 3c59x (vortex) kernel module, it craps out with (paraphrased): "device or resource busy". This happens whether I'm in the Debian install utility or working in a virtual console on the installed system. (FWIW, I grabbed the 2.2r1 install floppies and tried again -- no dice.) As an aside, I get the same error when trying to load the Maestro module for sound -- though I'm really not concerned about getting sound working at the moment. I verified that the card (and the other hardware) were working fine under the preinstalled windoze environment before blowing it away and the NIC continues to work fine under the FreeBSD installation I have on another partition. Web searches had led me to the home page for a fellow named Fred Maciel who had apparently patched Donald Becker's vortex driver to support this card and the notes on the web page indicated that the patches had been included in kernel 2.2.17. However, Fred's home page seems to have disappeared (It was at http://www2.neweb.ne.jp/wd/fbm/3c556/ ) I was all set to get fresh kernel sources and try to apply the patch myself to see if that would get things working but, well, the patches went with the page :-( Anyone have experiences/suggestions/etc.? Thanks, Samir -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dselect
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > G'Day ! > > I forget which package it choked on (maybe libpam0) ... basically a package > needs libpam0 but libpam0 cann't update till I've upgraded the other package, a > real Catch-22. So now it is stuck in this limbo state of packages installed but > not configured properly. > > When I went back thru the documentation ... it warned me of this, I just did not > read it. My mistake, getting too lazy to read manuals. Right, but I've had this problem with "apt-get dist-upgrade" too. That's not a dselect problem at all. This is why one has to be careful about holding -all debs which interdepend with -i386 (or whatever) debs, like when locales-2.2 recently came out before most arches' libc6-2.2. I guess Intel users have the luxury of not having to worry about this too much since most devs upload i386 debs, but us non-i386 unstable users (like pre-potato PPC and ARM) have *always* had this problem for *almost all* packages. Any other "dselect bugs" out there? -Adam P. Welcome to the best software in the world today cafe! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dell inspiron 4000, 3com miniPCI 3c556 (vortex)
> I've got potato installed on the machine (base + a few bits) but > whenever I try to load the 3c59x (vortex) kernel module, it > craps out with (paraphrased): "device or resource busy". ... > I verified that the card (and the other hardware) were working > fine under the preinstalled windoze environment before blowing > it away and the NIC continues to work fine under the FreeBSD > installation I have on another partition. > > Web searches had led me to the home page for a fellow named > Fred Maciel who had apparently patched Donald Becker's vortex > driver to support this card and the notes on the web page > indicated that the patches had been included in kernel 2.2.17. > > However, Fred's home page seems to have disappeared > (It was at http://www2.neweb.ne.jp/wd/fbm/3c556/ ) > > I was all set to get fresh kernel sources and try to apply the > patch myself to see if that would get things working but, well, > the patches went with the page :-( You might want to check the changelog for 2.2.18pre ... he is quite a sound fan, so he might have fixed it while you weren't looking, or alternatively, it would be worth letting him know that it still isn't handled properly. > Anyone have experiences/suggestions/etc.? Yeah, when you succeed, make a deb for yourself with your kernel parts, and keep it in a safe place in case you need it. * Heather Stern * star@ many places... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't boot into Linux after Install
+++ Heather <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Yeah... boot off a rescue disk (my favorites: Tom's rtbt, or Linuxcare's > BBC), mount up the drive's partitions in the right order, chroot into the > environment, then dpkg --purge pcmcia-cs. (That'll get it out of the init > scripts, as well as getting rid of its control files so they don't waste > space for you). I'm sure, that he solved the problem already, but for the next time IMHO it is sufficient to boot with a boot parameter: linux init=/bin/sh ... and remove the link in /etc/rcS.d to the init script concerning the problem (after mounting the root filesystem). After the next normally boot you can remove the package as you described above. so long, Mario -- +-+ | Mario Peterde,pl,eng| | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]| | 39124 Magdeburg http://www.mpeter.de| +-+ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Toshiba Satellite Boot problems
+++ Drew Parsons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Come to mention it, I've had problems with the potato boot disk too, on a > Toshiba 490CDT. It won't boot off the CD, just doesn't see it, if I recall > correctly. Other CDs (e.g. slink, what I originally installed Debian off) > boot fine, so I thought it might have just been a poor quality CD. But when > I checked it on someone else's computer, it booted fine on their computer. > Strange. Me to! I have a Toshiba T8100, and the Potato boot disk does not boot from it. Other bootable disks (RH 6.2, SuSE 7.0) are ok, so IMHO there must be a problem with disk image. However, it boots right on my desktop, but this is a 24x, the t8100 have a 42x. Perhaps this is the reason... Mario -- +-+ | Mario Peterde,pl,eng| | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]| | 39124 Magdeburg http://www.mpeter.de| +-+ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Budget laptop for linux
I installed debian on an old total peripherals 486dx4100 - no cd rom. I used base floppies ,installed samba and then used dselect through a network connection to my other pc with a cdrom. Everything works fine - pcmcia, modem , touch mouse pad in X (X was the hardest thing to configure) Lappie cost me $100. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
