Sample kernel configs for my laptop?
Compiling the kernel (2.0.36 on Debian 2.1) scares me a little with so many options and so little knowledge! I would guess this is one thing that holds back the full potential of my Lattitude CPi D300XT laptop (sound, APM, docking station access). So many questions come to mind as I work through the config options. (E.g. should I include CS4232 when my card is CS4237B, what do I need to do to access my CDROM that is located in the docking station, and many more.) I know the variety is limitless, but it would sure be nice if there were a repository of "standard" config files for various "standard" machines. Does such a thing, or similar exist? Where's a good place to get kernel advice? What would be a good starting point for my config file (rather than the one that comes with the kernel-source package? Cheers, Graham
Re: laptop "metapackage"
On Fri, Sep 24, 1999 at 11:02:38PM +0200, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > > beginning and it's quite unlikely that a new comer to the net will even know > > where to find a uucp connection. > Unfortunately, yes, most recent ISP know nothing besides basic DNS, SMTP and > Web hosting (and often not even that). Even without any usability concerns, this is the killer problem with UUCP. I would imagine that most people who would want UUCP will be able to find it by themselves and most people who don't know they want UUCP won't be able to figure out something useful to do with it in a hurry. -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFShttp://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/ pgpV9S84bntIo.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: XFree Resolutions
On Wed, Sep 22, 1999 at 07:30:31PM -0500, Chris Lawrence wrote: > I use 1024x768 on a VAIO laptop without problems. At least on my My LCD is only 800x600, and I'm interested in low resolutions like 512x384, 400x300, or 320x200. 400x300 should fit very easily on my screen with doubleing both ways, but there's about an inch on the bottom and two inches on the right that don't get used > laptop, the screen stretching is handled by the really-low-level > hardware on the laptop (Fn-F toggles from full-screen to centered). I'm thinking that the software tells the stretching hardware how to stretch the screen. The resolutions I mentioned work in Windows properly, but X seems unable to. > > I don't know how to get at the stretching functionality directly, but > the interface must be in there somewhere. > > > Chris > --
Re: laptop "metapackage"
On Fri, Sep 24, 1999 at 02:01:15PM -0800, Adam Shand wrote: > > This is certainly wrong. My UUCP configuration files, all together, make > > less lines than my sendmail or PPP configuration. But you need a MTA additionally - I am using postfix, bsmtp and uucp together and that setup is more complicated than just fetchmail + smail. > i have watched many new comers to the net struggle with uucp, both first > hand and being on the other end of a phone as tech support for them. it > hasn't been easy for any of them. under unix/dos/windows/mac uucp is UUCP isnt complicated. It is completely straigforward and the correct solution to multiple-user offline email, which ETRN is NOT an solution. > complicated because it's designed to be so much more then just an offline > mail protocol. *Aehm* UUCP is not a MAIL protocol. It is a file copy protocol which is extended with some kind of "Take this file x with protocol y and after receiving to z" ... > * it is difficult for a new comer to find a uucp provider This is the biggest problem. I am myself an ISP and I do UUCP for my Customers. But many with the Windows boxes dont even now anything else than POP-3 and/or SMTP. > * methods for retrieving mail are not laptop specific and should not be >included in the meta package. But offline mail is laptop specific. You have 2 choices. Fetchmail compatible pop-3 fetching and uucp. > > If you have several users on your laptop (and we are talking about Unix > > here), fetchmail is not really convenient: you'll need several accounts > > on the ISP and you'll need to put the passwords for all of them in > > fetchmail's configuration. > > or to have all domain mail routed to one pop account at your isp (most isps > support this) and have fetchmail pick up all the mail and redistribute it > locally. regardless though this is an unusual configuration for a laptop. This is NOT a solution. The splitting of the one POP-3 account into multiple unix accounts is NOT standardized and mostly not working as the normal mail envelope gets lost (There are workarounds available). > you miss the point, lets say pine or mutt then. both support the pop3 > protocol but are not laptop specific. Yes - But nobody suggested putting pine or mutt into the laptop package. > my vote is that the laptop meta package have the bare minimum needed to help > a user get laptop hardware to work, and to help them get tasks that are > much more likely to be needed on a laptop (roaming, vpn, disconnected file > systems) etc etc. But the "normal" laptop user wont to "disconnected file system" things, the mail case is much more common. Flo -- Florian Lohoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49-5241-470566 ... The failure can be random; however, when it does occur, it is catastrophic and is repeatable ... Cisco Field Notice
Re: laptop "metapackage"
On Saturday 25 September 1999, at 16 h 15, the keyboard of Florian Lohoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > much more likely to be needed on a laptop (roaming, vpn, disconnected file > > systems) etc etc. > > But the "normal" laptop user wont to "disconnected file system" things, the > mail case is much more common. We should add CVS to task-laptop, since it is a good solution for disconnected filesystems (yes, I am kidding.)
Xircom RealPort modem(/eth) not working
Hi, I've recently installed Debian on a Toshiba Tecra 8000. I'm trying to get a Xircom RealPort Ethernet + Modem card working. I've compiled my own kernel (2.0.36) along with my own pcmcia modules package. I notice that "hot swap" doesn't seem to work. That is, when I push the card in or take the card out, the kernel doesn't seem to recognise that anything has changed. But fortunately running "/etc/init.d/pcmcia restart" seems to cause the card to be recognised. I then have tried to use the modem. When I use pon, plog waits for expect (OK) but never gets it! I thought it was because maybe /dev/ttyS0 was the wrong serial port, but no, even when I change it to /dev/ttyS1 it doesn't work. Does anyone know what's wrong? Here's some info: Now here's something interesting. I just went to look at my /proc/interrupts file and it has changed since I last looked at it! Previously it was showing IRQ4 as being used for serial, now it has gone and we have: 0: 14170060 timer 1: 7121 keyboard 2: 0 cascade 5: 9 xirc2ps_cs 7:310 plip1 13: 1 math error 14: 21856 + ide0 15: 0 + ide1 Curious. Perhaps I should be using /dev/ttyS3 Anyone know? Thanks, Mark. _/\___/~~\ /~~\_/~~\__/~~\__Mark_Phillips /~~\_/[EMAIL PROTECTED] /~~\HE___/~~\__/~~\APTAIN_ /~~\__/~~\ __ "They told me I was gullible ... and I believed them!"
Sample kernel configs for my laptop?
Compiling the kernel (2.0.36 on Debian 2.1) scares me a little with so many options and so little knowledge! I would guess this is one thing that holds back the full potential of my Lattitude CPi D300XT laptop (sound, APM, docking station access). So many questions come to mind as I work through the config options. (E.g. should I include CS4232 when my card is CS4237B, what do I need to do to access my CDROM that is located in the docking station, and many more.) I know the variety is limitless, but it would sure be nice if there were a repository of "standard" config files for various "standard" machines. Does such a thing, or similar exist? Where's a good place to get kernel advice? What would be a good starting point for my config file (rather than the one that comes with the kernel-source package? Cheers, Graham
Re: laptop "metapackage"
On Fri, Sep 24, 1999 at 11:02:38PM +0200, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > > beginning and it's quite unlikely that a new comer to the net will even know > > where to find a uucp connection. > Unfortunately, yes, most recent ISP know nothing besides basic DNS, SMTP and > Web hosting (and often not even that). Even without any usability concerns, this is the killer problem with UUCP. I would imagine that most people who would want UUCP will be able to find it by themselves and most people who don't know they want UUCP won't be able to figure out something useful to do with it in a hurry. -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFShttp://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/ pgpBucU7Wch1z.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: XFree Resolutions
On Wed, Sep 22, 1999 at 07:30:31PM -0500, Chris Lawrence wrote: > I use 1024x768 on a VAIO laptop without problems. At least on my My LCD is only 800x600, and I'm interested in low resolutions like 512x384, 400x300, or 320x200. 400x300 should fit very easily on my screen with doubleing both ways, but there's about an inch on the bottom and two inches on the right that don't get used > laptop, the screen stretching is handled by the really-low-level > hardware on the laptop (Fn-F toggles from full-screen to centered). I'm thinking that the software tells the stretching hardware how to stretch the screen. The resolutions I mentioned work in Windows properly, but X seems unable to. > > I don't know how to get at the stretching functionality directly, but > the interface must be in there somewhere. > > > Chris > --
Re: laptop "metapackage"
On Fri, Sep 24, 1999 at 02:01:15PM -0800, Adam Shand wrote: > > This is certainly wrong. My UUCP configuration files, all together, make > > less lines than my sendmail or PPP configuration. But you need a MTA additionally - I am using postfix, bsmtp and uucp together and that setup is more complicated than just fetchmail + smail. > i have watched many new comers to the net struggle with uucp, both first > hand and being on the other end of a phone as tech support for them. it > hasn't been easy for any of them. under unix/dos/windows/mac uucp is UUCP isnt complicated. It is completely straigforward and the correct solution to multiple-user offline email, which ETRN is NOT an solution. > complicated because it's designed to be so much more then just an offline > mail protocol. *Aehm* UUCP is not a MAIL protocol. It is a file copy protocol which is extended with some kind of "Take this file x with protocol y and after receiving to z" ... > * it is difficult for a new comer to find a uucp provider This is the biggest problem. I am myself an ISP and I do UUCP for my Customers. But many with the Windows boxes dont even now anything else than POP-3 and/or SMTP. > * methods for retrieving mail are not laptop specific and should not be >included in the meta package. But offline mail is laptop specific. You have 2 choices. Fetchmail compatible pop-3 fetching and uucp. > > If you have several users on your laptop (and we are talking about Unix > > here), fetchmail is not really convenient: you'll need several accounts > > on the ISP and you'll need to put the passwords for all of them in > > fetchmail's configuration. > > or to have all domain mail routed to one pop account at your isp (most isps > support this) and have fetchmail pick up all the mail and redistribute it > locally. regardless though this is an unusual configuration for a laptop. This is NOT a solution. The splitting of the one POP-3 account into multiple unix accounts is NOT standardized and mostly not working as the normal mail envelope gets lost (There are workarounds available). > you miss the point, lets say pine or mutt then. both support the pop3 > protocol but are not laptop specific. Yes - But nobody suggested putting pine or mutt into the laptop package. > my vote is that the laptop meta package have the bare minimum needed to help > a user get laptop hardware to work, and to help them get tasks that are > much more likely to be needed on a laptop (roaming, vpn, disconnected file > systems) etc etc. But the "normal" laptop user wont to "disconnected file system" things, the mail case is much more common. Flo -- Florian Lohoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49-5241-470566 ... The failure can be random; however, when it does occur, it is catastrophic and is repeatable ... Cisco Field Notice
Re: laptop "metapackage"
On Saturday 25 September 1999, at 16 h 15, the keyboard of Florian Lohoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > much more likely to be needed on a laptop (roaming, vpn, disconnected file > > systems) etc etc. > > But the "normal" laptop user wont to "disconnected file system" things, the > mail case is much more common. We should add CVS to task-laptop, since it is a good solution for disconnected filesystems (yes, I am kidding.)
Xircom RealPort modem(/eth) not working
Hi, I've recently installed Debian on a Toshiba Tecra 8000. I'm trying to get a Xircom RealPort Ethernet + Modem card working. I've compiled my own kernel (2.0.36) along with my own pcmcia modules package. I notice that "hot swap" doesn't seem to work. That is, when I push the card in or take the card out, the kernel doesn't seem to recognise that anything has changed. But fortunately running "/etc/init.d/pcmcia restart" seems to cause the card to be recognised. I then have tried to use the modem. When I use pon, plog waits for expect (OK) but never gets it! I thought it was because maybe /dev/ttyS0 was the wrong serial port, but no, even when I change it to /dev/ttyS1 it doesn't work. Does anyone know what's wrong? Here's some info: Now here's something interesting. I just went to look at my /proc/interrupts file and it has changed since I last looked at it! Previously it was showing IRQ4 as being used for serial, now it has gone and we have: 0: 14170060 timer 1: 7121 keyboard 2: 0 cascade 5: 9 xirc2ps_cs 7:310 plip1 13: 1 math error 14: 21856 + ide0 15: 0 + ide1 Curious. Perhaps I should be using /dev/ttyS3 Anyone know? Thanks, Mark. _/\___/~~\ /~~\_/~~\__/~~\__Mark_Phillips /~~\_/[EMAIL PROTECTED] /~~\HE___/~~\__/~~\APTAIN_ /~~\__/~~\ __ "They told me I was gullible ... and I believed them!"
