repairing busted upgrade
i'm trying to repair the consequences of a mid-upgrade crash and find that kpackage lists files as installed that, actually, are not. where does kpackage read its installed files list from? additionally, attempts to uninstall corrupted packages return the following: Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: konsole: Depends: kdebase-libs (= 4:2.2.2-6) but 4:2.2.2-12 is to be installed given that i'm essentially trying to abort that previously crashed upgrade, how do i relieve kpackage of its desire to complete the upgrade, and get to keep the 4:2.2.2.-6 versions of eg. kdebase-libs, and etc., that are installed?
Re: Evolution einbinden
On Friday 11 January 2002 04:15 pm, Denny Schierz wrote: > hi, > > gibt es einen Weg, evolution als standard Mail Programm im Konqueror zu > registrieren? Sprich, ich klicke auf eine Mailadresse, und Evolution > übernimmt die mailadresse und macht ein Create Message Fenster auf, so > halt wie bei kmail. > > cu denny control center, file associations, message--da sollte man sowas eintragen koennen. kde kenne ich nur auf englisch. keine ahnung ob die vorgenannten bei dir auf deutsch umgesestzt sind.
Re: KDE filesystem structure
On Wednesday 16 January 2002 03:43 am, Daniel Stone wrote: > On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 01:35:33PM +0200, Jarno Elonen wrote: > > On Wednesday 16. Januaryta 2002 13:27, Daniel Stone wrote: > > > On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 08:55:16PM +, James Thorniley wrote: > > > > I'm supported also by Mosfet, see www.mosfet.org/fss.html for an > > > > actual argument for why directory layout should be more logical. > > > > > > You say that like it's a good thing. Mosfet's on drugs. > > > > No need to get personal, thank you. I personally like some of the guy's > > work and think his opinions deserve some respect, too. > > What he does is good, even if I do think that Aqua's crap, but I think > that he's on drugs for reasons that are too off-topic to go into here, > and I can't be stuffed elaborating them at all when I'm writing this > over lagged SSH. > > What he does is good, but that doesn't mean that he's not on drugs. if the reasons for your statement are too off-topic to go into, then the statement is inappropriately made in this forum, as well as being unsupported slanderous innuendo that should be retracted.
Re: Interpreting FHS
On Wednesday 16 January 2002 12:20 pm, Jarno Elonen wrote: [snip] > That said, FHS hardly is, if I have understood correctly, "the optimal > solution" for anything but rather an educated tradeoff between usefulness > and compatibility with existing UNIX systems. People generally present > crique because they want things to improve, not because they want to prove > that someone is imbecile. KDE indeed *is* a very large system and if many > people feel that FHS or Debian policy are not up to date for desktop usage, > those issues should be seriously discussed, IMHO. > exactly. standards should be a contemporary method of enhancing interoperability, not some facist ethic that proscribes discussion of improvement. ben
Re: CD Writer for filesystems, & HD Backup SW HowTo - Recommendations please?
On Sunday 27 January 2002 01:21 pm, tluxt wrote: > What is the topic relevant to those questions? - Device drivers? > What is a "module"? > modules are, essentially, device drivers. with the linux kernel, you get the option on compiling them into the kernel, or loading them as modules. the advantage of using modules is that the kernel stays leaner, taking up less memory space. on my system, those drivers that i use regularly and always want to be available and are unlikely to change for a while--e.g. printer, zip drive, ethernet card--are compiled into the kernel. anything that i might want to modify with regularity, i set up as an external module that is loaded into memory by the kernel as need dictates. in linux, you get to play around with pretty much every aspect of your system. driver modularity (is that a word?) is part of what enables that.
Re: CD Writer for filesystems, & HD Backup SW HowTo - Recommendations please?
On Sunday 27 January 2002 02:35 pm, you wrote: > --- ben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sunday 27 January 2002 01:21 pm, tluxt wrote: > > > What is the topic relevant to those questions? - Device drivers? > > > What is a "module"? > > > > modules are, essentially, device drivers. with the linux kernel, you get > > ... > > Thanks! :) > > Do you know of a user or sysadmin oriented document available on the net > that talks about Linux device drivers & modules? > > Google for 'linux module' gave: > Linux Kernel Module Programming Guide > Programming Guide. Ori Pomerantz. ... > www.linuxdoc.org/LDP/lkmpg/mpg.html - 8k - Cached - Similar pages > go to debianhelp.org. try 'kernel module cdrecord' sorry, i don't have a cd burner so i'm not a good resource on exactly what you need.
Re: CD Writer for filesystems, & HD Backup SW HowTo - Recommendations please?
On Sunday 27 January 2002 03:42 pm, tluxt wrote: > --- ben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Do you know of a user or sysadmin oriented document available on the > > > net that talks about Linux device drivers & modules? > > > > go to debianhelp.org. > > try 'kernel module cdrecord' > > Thanks. :) > > > sorry, i don't have a cd burner so i'm not a good resource on exactly > > what you need. > > Actually, I was asking you about module info in general, not specifically > re CDs. Perhaps nothing yet exists that explains for users, people trying > to set up a Debian system, what they need to know about dealing with > modules. > go to debian.org/doc--there are enough links there to set you on your way to knowing anything you might ever need to know about modules, kernels, debian, linux, free software, etc. check the HOWTO's. check the kernel HOWTO, the configuration HOWTO. i expect that they will have something to start you on your way. start with finding out what the kernel is and does, and the concept of a module in relation to that, and the mechanics of its use will soon become apparent. btw, it's usually a pain for most people to get cc: replies to their mailing address. this is the most well attended list i ever dealt with, so it's sufficient to reply only to the list address. occasionally, someone might request a cc: to their address for whatever reason but, in general, keep in mind that you only need to reply to the list address.
Re: Help Needed Adding Printer
On Sunday 10 February 2002 12:57 pm, tluxt wrote: [snip] > > Have you done: > adduser usrname lpadmin ;Adds the user "usrname" to the group "lpadmin" > in > ;the /etc/group file so usrname can admin CUPS. given that he can't login to cups admin with the root password, it seems that should be properly investigated and resolved before adding any other user to any other group. if no solution emerges, he'd be better off reinstalling cups and going through the setup process with the current problem in mind. it's really not in the system's interest to have a package running that doesn't comply with the rules of operation to which it should adhere, especially when root privileges are involved.
Re: Help Needed Adding Printer
On Sunday 10 February 2002 01:28 pm, you wrote: [snip] > > > > given that he can't login to cups admin with the root > > password,itseemsthat should be properly investigated and resolved before > > adding any otheruserto any other group. if no solution emerges, he'd be > > betteroffreinstallingcups and going through the setup process with the > > current problem in mind. it's really not in the system's interest to have > > a package running that doesn't comply with the rules of operation to > > which it shouldadhere,especiallywhen root privileges are involved. > > You may be right. I'm a CUPS novice, not expert. But, from somewhere, I > had concluded that noone, not even root, would be allowed by CUPS to admin > CUPS until their user name had been added to the lpadmin group. > > I'd love to know if that's true or not, for myself. Do you factually know > if my previous suggestion/statement is true or false? > > Have you set CUPS up? > > (If true, currently, then maybe the Debian CUPS installer should add root > to the lpadmin group as part of the CUPS install procedure?) > first off, before i forget to mention it, please don't cc to me. rather, keep it on the list. it's my understanding that group lpadmin is created by the installation of cups, with root as the only default member. in this case, where root suddenly no longer has access to cups, some part of the cups installation has obviously been somehow compromised. given that, it makes no sense whatsoever to enable another user access to a process that refuses root access before the reason or cause for that refusal is determined. if group lpadmin no longer recognizes its only user, then what might else be going on? lpadmin belongs to root and suddenly rejects root? that's like arriving home to find to find you suddenly can't open the door of some room in your house. it warrants investigation before you hand out any more house keys. in this case, since the disfunctional process, cups, and all it entails, can be removed and reinstalled, that provides a quick fix that is far more amenable to maintaining the security of the system than to give a non-root user root privileges to a process that is known to be compromised. it might also be advisable to remove the group lpadmin before the reinstallation. as for the statement that no-one can admin cups until their name has been added to cups, yes, that's true. i don't see where that statement was set in doubt in any part of this discussion. and to the question have i set up cups, the answer is yes.
Re: What's best quick fix for broken kde metapackage?
On Monday 18 February 2002 12:43 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Ok > ccheney is MIA for > 1 week with no advance notice of planned absence it's great that you've taken such an interest in helping the maintainers but you seem to have developed an attitude of scorn that really seems unjustified. everyone accepts that all of the maintainers involved with any part of debian actually have other imperatives going on in their lives, and that if and when those imperatives take precedence over the tasks of the distribution for which they've taken on responsibility, such absences that occur do not in any way mitigate the debts of gratitude and respect that the rest of us owe them. what gives you the right to suggest that chris cheney or anyone else is required to provide you with prior notice of any absence? and another thing, if you're going to make a habit of belittling any maintainer's performance, at least have the balls to identify yourself, instead of hiding behind a personal acronym on a web-based mailer. ben
Re: What's best quick fix for broken kde metapackage?
On Tuesday 19 February 2002 03:01 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi ben, > > I read your message with some interest. In order to help me give you a > response on par with your interest, will you please provide me some > clarification about some things that are ambiguous to me about your > message? TIA. > > 1st: One ambiguity in your message is whether your message is (please > excuse my loose use of definitions here) intended rhetorically (Ie, you > just wanted to communicate your thoughts to me, and you didn't actually > want any answers to some or all of the questions you posed), or if you > actually wanted answers to all the questions. Which is the case? > > If you do indeed want these answers, then I have this 2nd question: > 2nd: As you know, speaker attitude/tone/emotion can carry a large part of > a message, but none of those things come unambiguously through a text > channel without being explicitly stated. Now, I could guess at the a/t/e > in different parts of your message. But, my guess could be wrong. So, if > you're interested in an accurate response, will you please tell me the > a/t/e for each of the sections below? (You'll see I have divided your > message into related sections.) > > Just put the words of the a/t/e for each section in the handy little square > brackets I've provided. :) (Or perhaps the a/t/e is the same for the > entire message, in which case you only need to put this info in once, at > the beginning.) > > As an example of what I mean, my a/t/e for the above comments to you is: > [serious, curious, considerate, helpful]. > > There are a long list of possible a/t/e descriptions. Ex: > happy, sad, angry, honest, amused, disappointed, tired, sarcastic, > incredulous, scorn, ... > > Be as accurate & detailed as you wish. > > Thanks. :) > > PS: I am very busy currently, but I will make an effort to respond to you > within a week of your reply, at most, and perhaps within a few days. > solely out of a consideration that you seem to be unable to exert for the benefit of others, i accept that you are, for whatever reason, but, nonetheless, by your own admission, possibly unable to respond to this promptly. as for your inability to properly interpret my intentions, i can only say that the ambiguity you suggest was a part of my post to you is a further product of your arrogance. you are rude. you are obnoxious. you assume a position of special entitlement without the slightest attempt to accord respect to those to whom respect is due. on the basis of constructing a howto, you assume the right to exact obligations of notice from those whose proven efforts far exceed anything you offer. you render accusations of delinquency that are entirely unwarranted and unjustified. is this clear enough? is there a trace of ambiguity here? you owe chris cheney an apology. you owe the list an apology for your attempted disparagement of the effort he invests in what he does. your attempt to assert obligation where none exist is antithetical to the whole premise of what debian is about. as to whether or not i wanted a response to the original questions, the answer is yes, i do want a considered response to those questions--which, i notice, you haven't taken the effort to quote. ben
Re: What's best quick fix for broken kde metapackage?
On Tuesday 19 February 2002 04:23 am, Simon Hepburn wrote: > On Tuesday 19 Feb 2002 11:01 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hi ben, > > > > Hi ben indeed. I see nothing in this post that concerns debian-kde. Could > you please continue this off-list. I do not want personal messages from you > to ben in my inbox. > > Perhaps you could identify yourself before making any further posts to the > list - I take it you don't have [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your birth certificate > :-) > simon, though tluxt2's last post failed to focus on issues pertaining to debian-kde, i believe that this interaction should remain on the list as it references issues of loyalty to and respect for the application maintainers, without whom this list would consist only of obtuse exclamations of confusion. without the effort of the maintainers, debian itself wouldn't exist, and i believe their consistent contribution to its existence deserves every expression of support we, as beficiaries, can take the time to make. ben
Re: What's best quick fix for broken kde metapackage?
On Tuesday 19 February 2002 10:30 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snipped, due to sheer irrelevance] for someone allegedly so concerned with detail and precision, neither your repost nor the archive link which you allege provides evidence of having included a quote of my post, actually, do that. just give it up. redeem yourself (if, indeed, you have any intent to do so) by conceding that the only necessary obligation--in this case, of gratitude and respect owed by the benficiaries of the unpaid labor of others--exists on the side of the users towards the maintainers, and not the other way around. why do you persist in making such an ass of yourself? i will, given proper indication of such effort, acknowledge any attempt that you make to offer redress for the offence you have caused. until then, i see absolutely no point to a continuance of this communication. ben
Re: What's best quick fix for broken kde metapackage?
On Wednesday 20 February 2002 01:16 am, Daniel Stone wrote: > On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 12:27:25AM -0800, ben wrote: > > just give it up. redeem yourself (if, indeed, you have any intent to do > > so) by conceding that the only necessary obligation--in this case, of > > gratitude and respect owed by the benficiaries of the unpaid labor of > > others--exists on the side of the users towards the maintainers, and not > > the other way around. > > While I appreciate your support, sometimes I think you overplay the > maintainers' stocks a little bit. :) > > When we take on a package, we take on the responsibility of maintaining > it ... given, we might not be able to do an absolute perfect job, but we > did say we'd do a job, and so we should always endeavour to do it, when > reasonable. > given that the product of your willingness to take on those responsibilities results in a pure win for those of us who reap the benefit, it just plain pisses me off when some arrogant asshole tries to assert an obligation on your (collective) part solely in order to assauge his solely personal interests at the expense of according appreciation where it's deserved. as someone who accrues the benefit of your work, at absolutely no cost to myself, it seems to me that the least i can do, in return, is to bring that fool's attention to the idea that his attitude is pitiable. along with that, i'd like to add that you may not be aware of the fact that there are a whole big lot of people out here who are, really, just plain users, who don't necessarily have any other ambition than to run a small home or office system that might even do nothing other than give us the freedom to revel in our (debian-enabled) supremely functional independence of ms'ed up operating systems. from your humble response, it kinda sounds like not enough of us have been showing up to say thanks. that's really all that this is about. kde is primarily a single user oriented environment, and, as far as i know, none of the maintainers have commited themselves to any responsibility beyond that, such as to specifically accommodate enterprise or even development oriented interests--not that you neglect those users, either. but, consequently, the majority of those who gain by your efforts are the regular folks who have made--given the context of their origin as discouraged windon't users--a comparable effort in risking all that was familar, however repugnant, to embrace a system where, rightly, there is no-one to blame but oneself in the event of any of the common usage problems that might arise. nonetheless, you guys continually cover our asses, getting us, as solidly as you can, back up when we thought that we were down. that, to my mind, deserves far more appreciation than scorn. if that's too much, sorry. ben
Re: need help with kdm no.2
On Wednesday 20 February 2002 12:48 pm, Mike Carter wrote: > Sebastian I have kde installed, read my request again and maybe > you will understand my problem. > > On 20 Feb 2002, at 15:47, by way of Sebastian Heinlein wrote: > > Am Mittwoch, 20. Februar 2002 15:24 schrieb Mike Carter: > > > Hi team, > > > 2nd attempt to get this answered, > > > how do I get debian stable to boot with kdm starting kde not any > > > other gui? I have tried to get it to run with kde on boot but no > > > success. I am obviously missing something important and possibly > > > basic. But I can't fix it. The debian user guide didn't help. > > > It told me to modify files which don't exist. [snip] which files don't exist? perhaps you should start by acquiring them and completing the necessary modifications. ben
Re: Will KDE make it into Woody?
On Sunday 24 February 2002 03:38 am, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > To: debian-kde@lists.debian.org hey petter, i'm totally willing to offer whatever effort i can, but what is BTS and how do i check it? can i contribute? as far as patches are concerned, i wouldn't know where to begin, but i am definitely willing to contribute whatever i can. ben
Re: Refresh Rate
On Sunday 03 March 2002 06:45 am, Robert Tilley wrote: > I need to change the refresh rate of X because some slight flickering has > been noticed. I'm running X 4.1 and don't know which application to use. > > Does KDE have anything to help? take a look at /var/log/XFree86.0.log. it will provide some information on the appropriate refresh settings for your system. then adjust those settings in /etc/XF86Config so that you don't get the flicker.
Re: I just joined
On Sunday 14 April 2002 06:30 pm, Simon Hepburn wrote: > david mattatall wrote: > > Hello I just joined debian-kde and I want to know, are there discussions > > here about sid? or are the mojority of discussions about potato? KDE 3.0? > > or KDE 2.2.2? > > Anything and everything. Except politics and religion - you want > debian-user for that ;-) sorry. we just cancelled that over there. ben -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: When will it be ready?
On Sunday 14 April 2002 08:46 pm, Eray Ozkural wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > I'd like to increase the clue factor of this mailing list a bit. > > Disclaimer: I don't have the time to waste with flames, so buzz off if you > intend to. I don't care about those kind of responses that I'm used to > seeing on debian mailing lists. > [snip] here's a clue for you: most of the subscribers to this list are well aware of the pressure that the maintainers face. please have some more respect than to assume that you have to right to tar us all with the same brush. just because a whole lot of newbies, dumbasses, whatever, keep repeating the same desire to see the next debian-enabled iteration of kde, that speaks for their favor of kde, and not for your right to abuse them. i've monitored this list for quite a while, and i have often rushed to the defence of kde maintainers in the face of unfair demands but none of the claimants you are addressing deserve the tone you are using right now. if you're not up to the challenge, then give it up, but don't adopt any assumption that you have the right to abuse people whose expectations happen to be legitimate. ben -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Custom KDE/KDM for Internet access only
On Thursday 25 April 2002 11:58 pm, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > > So my questions are : > > - - how to desactivate customization of the menu bar ? > > with some really weird permission trickery this might be possible. you'd > have to make the directory with the config files in question > (~/.kde/share/config/) owned by root and read-only to the user. > > > - - how to desactivate login off ? > > you can't, so far. > you might be interested in the kde-kiosk project. join their mailing > list. > as a general rule that defines guaranteed user inacessibility to system function and control, dude, you need a windows platform. the unfortunate consequence in that choice is that micro$xxt will make you pay for your control over that system. otherwise, you're going to have to invest some time in educating yourself about how to secure that system. linux is free in the sense of getting hold of it and in the sense of your freedom to make it do what you want, but not in the sense of others doing the work that you need to do to make it work for you. think of it like your local architects offering the basic concepts of engineering as a class at your local school, and then rendering their individual blueprints for your solution available at the local library. you've got to patch it all together by yourself. there's a backup in the sense that others who've taken the same path may choose to share their hard-earned wisdom, but you've got to convince them that your project is worthy of their help. ben -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
.doc attachments in kmail
i'm running kmail 1.3.2 under kde 2.2.2. is it possible to set up an association so that incoming .doc attachments can automatically run openoffice? ben -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: .doc attachments in kmail
On Sunday 05 May 2002 12:59 pm, Hendrik Sattler wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Am Sonntag, 5. Mai 2002 21:57 schrieb ben: > > i'm running kmail 1.3.2 under kde 2.2.2. is it possible to set up an > > association so that incoming .doc attachments can automatically run > > openoffice? > > You do not assign to the ending .doc but rather to the mime-Type. Such > things, you can do with kcontrol. > thanks for the response, hendrik. i got it. ben -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dentist
frank, i've had most of the dental work done. it's quite a change. thanks again. owen was asking about when you're going to be here, as in what time you arrive. if it's early in the day, he said he'll take time off school. otherwise, he'll meet us after school. ben -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
last mailing
my apology to all those for whom the last mail from me was not intended. ben -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cursor vanished in kmail
all of a sudden, the cursor has taken to vanishing while composing in kmail. has anyone else experienced this? kmail is ver.1.3.2 under kde 2.2.2. ben -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cursor vanished in kmail
On Monday 27 May 2002 03:00 pm, Jarno Elonen wrote: > > all of a sudden, the cursor has taken to vanishing while composing in > > kmail. has anyone else experienced this? kmail is ver.1.3.2 under kde > > 2.2.2. > > AFAIK, it's by design so that the pointer doesn't obstruct the text you are > writing. It should reappear immediately when you move the mouse, open a > menu etc. > thanks for the response. it's not the pointer that disappears--it's the text cursor in the composer, and it happens randomly, so i doubt very much that this "feature" is by design. i'm guessing that it's some part of the interaction between kde and x that's buggin'. any clues as to which, if any, log might track such an event? ben -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
https protocol in konqueror
how do i enable the https protocol in konqueror (2.2.2)? ben -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: https protocol in konqueror
On Tuesday 28 May 2002 01:33 pm, Josef Spillner wrote: > On Tuesday 28 May 2002 22:29, ben wrote: > > how do i enable the https protocol in konqueror (2.2.2)? > > The browser enables it for you automatically, if your kdelibs has SSL > support compiled in. > In Debian, you might want to apt-get install kdelibs3-crypto. > thanks for the response, josef. what determines whether ssl support is compiled into kdelibs--in other words, is a manual compile of kdelibs the only way to enable it? ben -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: https protocol in konqueror
On Tuesday 28 May 2002 02:50 pm, Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Am Dienstag, 28. Mai 2002 23:40 schrieb Wolfgang Ratzka: > > thanks for the response, josef. what determines whether ssl support is > > compiled into kdelibs--in other words, is a manual compile of kdelibs the > > only way to enable it? > > Nope, no need to recompile (at least that's what I understood from some > discussion on the kde developer mailing lists some time ago). The kdelibs > detect if the ssl libraries are available and if they are, it uses dlopen > to open them manually. So if you just install the ssl libs, kdelibs will > detect and use them. But of course the https ioslave has to be compiled at > all. If not, you really need to recompile or of course use the right debian > package. > cool. thanks all for the help. ben -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SOLVED--Re: https protocol in konqueror
On Wednesday 29 May 2002 12:12 pm, Gonéri Le Bouder wrote: > Le Tuesday 28 May 2002 22:29, ben a écrit : > > how do i enable the https protocol in konqueror (2.2.2)? > > > > ben > > install : kdelibs3-crypto & kdelibs3-crypto > > > Gonéri thanks to everyone who answered this. i've got it working. ben -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fwd: RE: kmail socket
i've received five so far today. i was just about to ask if anyone else was affected. ben On Friday 31 May 2002 11:28 am, Russell Coker wrote: > Here is an annoying message I just received as a follow-up to a message I > posted here 4 days ago. I recommend that anyone who doesn't like spam from > bots put the following line in their /etc/postfix/reject file: > /^From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ REJECT > > If you wish to reply to this message then please keep the CC list intact. > > -- Forwarded Message -- > > Subject: RE: kmail socket > Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 20:30:45 +0300 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Dear [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > Your recent message to this server regarding `kmail socket` > was not delivered. Your address is listed in one or more suppression files > on this server or your account is configured to allow local mail traffic > only. Please contact the postmaster at this domain if additional > information is required. > > Thank you, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fwd: RE: kmail socket
On Friday 31 May 2002 12:33 pm, Peter T. Abplanalp wrote:
> am i correct in my conclusion that you get this complaint from
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] if your mta is not set up as an open relay?
>
> also, do you mean postal in the "bring an automatic weapon to work"
> sense or is there some software that will flood this guy with email?
>
it's the latter:
DESCRIPTION
This manual page documents briefly the postal, program.
It is designed to test the performance of SMTP email servers by send
ing random messages to the specified server as fast as possible. A
future version will support rate limiting to provide a constant load
(for testing POP or IMAP).
ben
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WAS kmail socket--Re: Automatic responses to mails sent to debian-kde@lists.debian.org
On Friday 31 May 2002 02:10 pm, Wolfgang Ratzka wrote: > Am Freitag, 31. Mai 2002 22:49 schrieb Fred K Ollinger: > > I agree. This is unethical. So is sending spam. I suggest that one would > > send two copies of spam back for each copy recieved. This is not as > > unethical b/c one was spammed and one is only returning the favor. If the > > spammer is manually sending out emails and gets a few replies back then > > this won't cause any trouble. But if one sends out unsolicited mail to a > > few million people and they get a few million back then they get what > > they dished out, tit for tat. If you are the only one sending mail back > > then > > ^^^ > > The problem is, that you can never be sure whether your "retribution" will > actually hit the right person. So you might fry some poor sys admin > who has enough trouble with his clueless users anyway ;-). > > So apparently <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> has subscribed to the mailing > list and has set up some smart-ass filter tool that blocks traffic from > the mailing list produces these silly automatic responses... > > In this case the best solution would be for some list admin to remove > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > from the mailing list. > i just checked the mail headers and followed up on the one seemingly sensible ip address in there. it's forged and belongs to the baltnet.ru domain. there's no whois entry for koenig.su while google returns a multitude of russian language pages. curiouser and curiouser. actually, it kinda feels like the monkeys and typewriters thing, like in a hundred years he might get half a clue. ben -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WAS kmail socket--Re: Automatic responses to mails sent to debian-kde@lists.debian.org
On Friday 31 May 2002 03:02 pm, ben wrote: [snip] > > i just checked the mail headers and followed up on the one seemingly > sensible ip address in there. it's forged and belongs to the baltnet.ru > domain. there's no whois entry for koenig.su while google returns a > multitude of russian language pages. > > curiouser and curiouser. > > actually, it kinda feels like the monkeys and typewriters thing, like in a > hundred years he might get half a clue. > it appears that, while wizard is unknown on the koenig.su domain, that domain is in kalingrad, russia, but it's not a domain in the conventional sense and they have a mighty weird way of assigning email addresses--albeit consistent with their weird way of dealing with undeliverable mail. apparently, the responsible entity for mail addresses of the koenig.su type is enet.ru, and the postmaster address for that domain is [EMAIL PROTECTED] so what are the options here? should it be handed off to the list admin? i don't relish the thought of trying to educate an apparently incompetent administrator at enet.ru about the flaws in their ridiculously unique mail strategy. ben -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Automatic responses to mails sent to debian-kde@lists.debian.org
On Saturday 01 June 2002 11:29 am, Jaakko Niemi wrote: > > We don't have any subscriptions from that domain even, so unless someone > shows headers with more information, there's very little that we can do. here you go: Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from mx03.mrf.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.4.52] [207.172.4.52]) by mta05.mrf.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 31 May 2002 14:33:22 -0400 Received: from [217.168.67.231] (helo=wizard.koenig.su) by mx03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #5) id 17DrDE-0004vs-00 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 31 May 2002 14:33:21 -0400 Received: from wizard.koenig.su [127.0.0.1] by wizard.koenig.su [127.0.0.1] with RAW (MDaemon.PRO.v5.0.5.T) for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 31 May 2002 21:32:25 +0300 Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 21:32:25 +0300 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: SOLVED--Re: https protocol in konqueror To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Actual-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Status: R X-Status: N -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
appstreamertest is failing on build of my program
I am trying to build, for Debian, a KDE based program and debuild/dpkg-buildpackage is failing. When appstreamertest runs it seems to look for and not find install_manifest.txt and dies. When I look the file is not there. If I run CMake manually and then make install the file is generated. This problem only started recently, possibly when the latest appstreamtest hit the testing repository. How do I fix this? Thank you. make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/benscott/debian/kvpm-0.9.10/obj-x86_64-linux-gnu' dh_auto_test --buildsystem=kde -O--dbg-package=kvpm-dbg make -j1 test ARGS\+=-j1 make[1]: Entering directory '/home/benscott/debian/kvpm-0.9.10/obj-x86_64-linux-gnu' Running tests... /usr/bin/ctest --force-new-ctest-process -j1 Test project /home/benscott/debian/kvpm-0.9.10/obj-x86_64-linux-gnu Start 1: appstreamtest 1/1 Test #1: appstreamtest ***Failed0.02 sec CMake Error at /usr/share/ECM/kde-modules/appstreamtest.cmake:1 (file): file failed to open for reading (No such file or directory): /home/benscott/debian/kvpm-0.9.10/obj-x86_64-linux-gnu/install_manifest.txt 0% tests passed, 1 tests failed out of 1 Total Test time (real) = 0.02 sec The following tests FAILED: 1 - appstreamtest (Failed) Errors while running CTest Makefile:130: recipe for target 'test' failed make[1]: *** [test] Error 8 make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/benscott/debian/kvpm-0.9.10/obj-x86_64-linux-gnu' dh_auto_test: make -j1 test ARGS+=-j1 returned exit code 2 debian/rules:7: recipe for target 'build' failed make: *** [build] Error 2 dpkg-buildpackage: error: debian/rules build gave error exit status 2 debuild: fatal error at line 1376: dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -D -us -uc failed
Re: Konsole & AA fonts
> > I noticed that AA fonts have been disabled in the latest uploads of > > KDE2.1, for reason that Konsole has problems with them. > > I did that because upstream stated that it did not handle AA properly. But > since either way it's not handled properly I'll take that patch out and > re-enable it. Fwiw, I have a fair selection of fixed-width fonts, both type1 and truetype, all of which antialiased KDE can see, but konsole refuses to use any of them. When you recently disabled AA in konsole was the first time this week that konsole has been usable for me (without having to first run an xterm and set QT_XFT=0). Ben. -- Ben Burton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Director of Training Australian Informatics Olympiad Committee America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilisation in between. - Oscar Wilde
Re: Konsole & AA fonts
> Anyways, this is my XftConfig file, cobbled together from bits, not that I > really understand what it exactly means :-) You are truly wonderful..! - I now have KDE using antialiased fixed-width fonts. And I even think I have half an understanding of how that XftConfig works now.. :) Grazie mille! Ben. -- Ben Burton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Director of Training Australian Informatics Olympiad Committee Only the shallow know themselves. - Oscar Wilde
Re: Konsole & AA fonts
> so does this mean there's no objections to me re-enabling AA support in > konsole? No objections from me. :) But like Tim, I think it would be good to provide documentation for the non-debian-kde reader for how to get konsole working decently. One suggestion might be to put the information in /usr/share/doc/konsole/README.AAfonts or some such file. I can try to draw up such a file over the weekend if you want. I don't know what the protocol is (the problem is serious enough that if konsole with QT_XFT=1 cannot find fixed-width fonts it becomes essentially unusable) - do we want to notify the user on installation (a preinst popup like with xfs/xdm/etc?) that these instructions exist? I think half the problem here is that X cannot provide a good default XftConfig since it depends on what Type1/TT fonts you have installed, and there's no guarantee that any two users have any two such fonts in common. Anyway. I promised I'd go help at a yard sale. :) Ben. -- Ben Burton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Director of Training Australian Informatics Olympiad Committee The only thing to do with good advice is pass it on; it is never of any use to oneself. - Oscar Wilde
Re: Konsole & AA fonts
> > I think half the problem here is that X cannot provide a good > > default XftConfig since it depends on what Type1/TT fonts you have > > installed, and there's no guarantee that any two users have any two > > such fonts in common. > > but it is possible to do other neat things. Debian could come up with > a policy for where system and user-provided TrueType fonts go, and > then include those two lines in the config file. Even so, to make KDE work with fixed-width AA fonts you need to supply a preferred fixed-width font in the XftConfig file (which will then be used with konsole, etc.). This is what I believe is more difficult; I don't see that we can really require that every user has the M$ font Courier New, or Andale Mono or whatever. Ben. -- Ben Burton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Director of Training Australian Informatics Olympiad Committee Twenty years of romance makes a woman look like a ruin: but twenty years of marriage make her something like a public building. - Oscar Wilde
Re: Quanta for Potato?
> does there exist any Quanta package for Potato? Hi. I've taken over Quanta maintenance as of a couple of weeks ago. However I have no access to a potato machine on which to build a potato package, and I have not nearly enough free drive space at the moment to do it in a chroot area. :( Ben. -- Ben Burton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Director of Training Australian Informatics Olympiad Committee There are things that I would disagree with Jesus about - and I feel really good about that. - Tori Amos
Re: Conflicts
> Also kdbg for some reason want to remove qt 2.3 and install qt2.2. Have you got installed libqt2.2_2.3? This package does nothing but fulfil 2.2 dependencies until packages like kdbg have been rebuilt. Since libqt2.2_2.3 exists and since I feel I'm on the verge of overloading my sponsor with other things, I have put rebuilding kdbg/quanta/kprof/etc off until either I get through the NM queue or until my sponsor has more time. If anyone wants to offer to sponsor in my KDE packages (there's six of them, three tiny, one medium, two gigantic) I'll edit them (re: edit the changelogs) so they can be rebuilt for the new libqt2. Ben. -- Ben Burton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Director of Training Australian Informatics Olympiad Committee Paradoxically though it may seem, it is none the less true that life imitates art far more than art imitates life. - Oscar Wilde
Re: Removing applets from them KPanel?
> (frowning) Would someone kindly describe how to remove an applet, e.g. > KNewsTicker, from the KPanel. Sadly, apart from killing the process, I > cannot solve this puzzle. Take the bumpy handle on the left of the applet that you use to drag the applet around. Right click on this handle; you should see a "Remove" option. At least this works for me. :) Ben. -- Ben Burton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Director of Training Australian Informatics Olympiad Committee To love oneself is the beginning of a lifelong romance. - Oscar Wilde
New KDE Apps (inc quanta, kdbg)
Hi.. a number of KDE applications have now been either packaged or repackaged for potato users: kbear, kcpuload, kdbg, keuklid, knetload, kprof, quanta. Hopefully this answers the earlier request for quanta in potato. Also, to Reinhard Borek who wrote regarding kdbg, I have taken out version (>= 5.0) in the gdb recommendation. Thanks immensely to Jaye Inabnit who offered his machine for building on! :) Thanks also to Ivan for hosting the packages. Ben. -- Ben Burton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Director of Training Australian Informatics Olympiad Committee Most people aim at nothing, and they hit it with tremendous accuracy. - Unknown
Re: kde.tdyc.com down?
> I just did an to apt-get update. It doesn't seem to be responding. The following message was posted to this list a few days ago: -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: kde.debian.net and mirroring Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 21:05:30 -0700 From: "Ivan E. Moore II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: debian-kde@lists.debian.org Ok...well my friend who's hosting kde.tdyc.com/kde.debian.net has put in his notice and is leaving the job...and thus the box has to find a new home. So this leaves a few options... the site is mirrored out to several sites now so it's not like it's a big hit to everyone..just means people will have to change their sources file and point to a mirror. So...I'm not sure exactly where I"m going to shove the box yet...I can host the files at one place..but it can't be publically accessable...I might be able to allow mirrors to hit it tho...I'm trying to research this. The other option is that one of the mirror sites would volunteer to become the master site. This would require allowing myself and Rick Cook access to the box to upload and manage the files we upload. I'm not sure how much longer the box will be around...probably at least till sometime next week. I'm working on getting the rest of my updates uploaded then I'll mirror it off to my backup site...and ISO's will also be made during that time. so the data is not getting lost...it just may be on hold. :) Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD -- Ben Burton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Director of Training Australian Informatics Olympiad Committee A handful of lovers and loved ones, fighting shoulder to shoulder, could rout a whole army. For a lover to be seen by his beloved forsaking the ranks or throwing away his weapons would be unbearable. He would rather a thousand times die than be so humiliated. - Plato, The Symposium (4th century BC)
Re: kdbg recommends gdb (>= 5.0) and problems with kdevelop
> gdb 5.0-X is in unstable. > > use with care, i mean only get this package from unstable, then revert back > to patato or woody, whatever you were using before You should find that the current kdbg for potato no longer gives a version number in its Recommends: line. Ben. -- Ben Burton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Director of Training Australian Informatics Olympiad Committee Moderation is a fatal thing, Lady Hunstanton. Nothing succeeds like excess. - Oscar Wilde
Re: task-kde cannot be installed
> klisa does not exist, but lisa does. > Can this be corrected? >From what I can see, klisa is already in incoming. Since it's a new package it may be a couple of days before it hits the FTP servers, at which point task-kde should install fine. If you really want it now you can grab it from http://incoming.debian.org/. Patience Iago, patience.. :) Ben. -- Ben Burton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Director of Training Australian Informatics Olympiad Committee He hasn't an enemy in the world, and none of his friends like him. - Oscar Wilde
Re: Konqueror and Secure pages
> I couldn't browse a secure website under Konqueror that I just installed > 2.1.1. Do you have package kdebase-crypto and all its dependencies installed? Ben. -- Ben Burton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Director of Training Australian Informatics Olympiad Committee I'm not nice music for your apartment. - Tori Amos, CNN Showbiz Today, 1998
Re: Knetload not displaying
> Anyone have success running knetload on Sid? I run it and I can see the > process via "ps -ef | grep knetload" but it's not visible on the taskbar. > Any ideas??? It won't show up on your taskbar but it should show up in the system tray as a pair of graphs (one for input, one for output). I presume it's not showing up there either? It works fine on my system. Are you doing anything unusual like putting your system tray on external panel extensions, anything like that? If you start knetload at the command line does it give any error messages? Are you running kcpuload (which uses almost identical code)? Does it show up in the system tray? Ben. -- Ben Burton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Director of Training Australian Informatics Olympiad Committee Bigamy is having one wife too many. Monogamy is the same. - Oscar Wilde
Re: Cannot Print or Print to File with Kword: suspect libqt error related to undefined symbol: pure virtual
Fwiw, there will be new KOffice binaries uploaded in the next couple of days; you might want to have a burl with those. They're still cvs snapshots but they're newer (and I screwed around with a hell of a lot of stuff, so I'm anxiously awaiting the bug reports.. *grin*). Ben. -- Ben Burton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Director of Training Australian Informatics Olympiad Committee There are some really good things about the teachings of Jesus, but Jesus had nothing to do with modern day Christianity. - Tori Amos
Re: quanta while using 2.2
If you can hang out a couple of days, Quanta has just made a new release which I will be packaging shortly. > quanta, I wanted to make sure I wasn't doing something wrong. First off, > it doesn't look like quanta has been updated to use the newest qt > libraries. Is that a problem? I.e., when you updated to qt2.2, do all qt > apps need to be recompiled? Hmmm.. Version: 1:2.0-pr1-4 Depends: kdelibs3 (>= 4:2.1.0-0), kdelibs3 (>= 4:2.1.0-0) | kdelibs3-crypto (>= 4:2.1.0-0), libc6 (>= 2.2.1-2), libjpeg62, libpng2, libqt2 (>= 2:2.3.0-final-0) | libqt2-gl (>= 2:2.3.0-final-0), libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2, xlibs (>= 4.0.1-11), zlib1g (>= 1:1.1.3), kdebase-libs, weblint In particular this list contains libqt 2.3. What makes you say it wants old libraries? Ben. -- Ben Burton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Director of Training Australian Informatics Olympiad Committee Something was dead in each of us, / And what was dead was Hope. - Oscar Wilde
Re: quanta while using 2.2
Okay, the new quanta release is in incoming.. please let me know if the problem persists (ak, I sound like I'm flogging paracetamol..). Ben. -- Ben Burton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Director of Training Australian Informatics Olympiad Committee Just because people don't know their myths and hardly read anymore, does it mean I'm cryptic or does it mean we're just very uneducated as far as our word paints. Our pallets are like four colors now. We're back to red, blue and what's the other one? See what I'm saying. I do feel sometimes that if it's not three-dimensional and so tangible that it can work back-to-back with Riki Lake and Jerry Springer then people think the writers aren't making sense. To me, the audience isn't making sense. I feel half the audience is working on a McDonald's mentality-and I have no problem with the french fries. They're all over my thighs. Left, right and center, they're there-you'll find them if we ever wind up in a coffin together. But I do feel like I'm encouraging college students to stretch. You all have a responsibility to understand your writers rather then rolling your eyes and concluding they're not making sense. Or maybe you're just a dingbat. - Tori Amos
Re: quanta and kde alpha
> It's still crashing, with the debug output below. Should I send a bug > report to kde, the quanta developers, here, or what? Can you please send me one of your files that won't open? I'll try to reproduce the bug here. If I can, I'll file a bug with Debian and forward it to the Quanta authors. If I can't reproduce the bug, it may be a KDE2.2 problem. I still have KDE2.1 installed and since debian unstable is still using KDE2.1, I would be hesitant to file a 2.2-specific bug in the Debian BTS. If this is the case, it would be great if you could file a bug directly with the Quanta authors: http://sourceforge.net/projects/quanta (from which you can access the Quanta BTS). Thanks, Ben. -- Ben Burton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Director of Training Australian Informatics Olympiad Committee I've played a lot of universities...they're real thinkers. They talk about stuff, they yell things out at the concert, and we have a little chat. They know that they're the future; I wanna play to them because they're the future. - Tori Amos, Westwood One Interview, 1996
Re: Bug in koffice-libs Dependencies?
Hi.. I currently maintain koffice but I haven't built potato packages and my current plan was to wait until 1.1-beta1 is out (which should be around now). Ben. -- Ben Burton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Director of Training Australian Informatics Olympiad Committee Education is an admirable thing, but it is well to remember from time to time that nothing that is worth knowing can be taught. - Oscar Wilde
Re: Bug in koffice-libs Dependencies?
> The 1.1-20010404-0 versions are the new ones. They appeared yesterday > or last night on kde.debian.net in the Potato (!) section. Oh, cool.. someone else is building potato packages of which I was unaware but for which I am grateful. :) I'll hunt down the problem, might be a couple of days though.. I'm kind of teaching 24 hours this week. Ben. -- Ben Burton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Director of Training Australian Informatics Olympiad Committee Yet each man kills the thing he loves, / By each let this be heard, / Some do it with a bitter look, / Some with a flattering word. / The coward does it with a kiss, / The brave man with a sword! - Oscar Wilde
Re: Bug in koffice-libs Dependencies?
> Hi. I'm a bit slow catching up with my messages, but isn't > KOffice 1.1 beta 1 already out for packagers? Wasn't the KDE > team able to follow the timeline? AFAICT, the beta1 tags were very recently added (like order of hours ago). I'm currently in a bout of intensive (24-hour) teaching on the other side of the world but Debian packages should be up by Wed at the latest. Btw, thanks Ivan for the potato packages :) Ben. -- Ben Burton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Director of Training Australian Informatics Olympiad Committee The Honorable Member has been in so many parties he is a complete political harlot. - Paul Keating, on Independant Steele Hall
Re: Bug in koffice-libs Dependencies?
> > kspread: Conflicts: koffice-libs (< 1:1.1-20010404-1) but > > grrr...hard coded versions...ack. Sorry, potato packages didn't occur to me. :) - if I change the -1 to -0 for koffice 1.1-beta1 does this satisfy? Ben. -- Ben Burton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Director of Training Australian Informatics Olympiad Committee Nothing, except my genius. (Replying to a US customs official on being asked if he had anything to declare) - Oscar Wilde
Re: Problem with koffice-libs etc.
In the next few days there will be a new set of koffice packages uploaded; I will have the koffice-libs dependencies and conflicts fixed amongst other things. Also it will be the official 1.1 beta1 and so hopefully a little more stable than the cvs snapshot that is currently available. Ben. -- Ben Burton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Director of Training Australian Informatics Olympiad Committee Pretty is never beautiful. - Tori Amos, Bay Area Musician, 3/11/97
KOffice 1.1 Beta1
Hi. The new KOffice packages have finally hit incoming. They may still be a
few days to reach the FTP archives because of the new package (well, reborn
package) kformula.
There are a couple of problems that I'm about to go and file bugs on. I have
decided to upload these packages anyway since the previous packages also
suffer from the first problem, and since potato people can't even install the
previous packages.
1. HTML documentation is still not included; this shouldn't take long to fix.
2. The straight connector tool in kivio is not working (the corresponding
plugin cannot be opened). This is being worked on and I will upload a fix
asap.
Any other problem is a problem I *don't* know about, so please let me know.
Thanks,
Ben.
--
Ben Burton ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/
Director of Training
Australian Informatics Olympiad Committee
Mr Deputy Speaker, am I to be continually abused by the Honorable Member for
Mitchell and the drone beside him, the Honorable Member for Braddon ?
- Paul Keating
Re: koffice?
> Unfortunately, I haven't been able to download the new, > corrected koffice packages. Are they uploaded already > (possibly waiting in some queue?)? The sid packages are sitting in incoming.debian.org. Since kformula is new (well, for the purposes of the queue) and since I just missed the last update of the overrides file (as always seems to be the way.. *sigh*) it will probably be at least half a week before the sid packages hit the FTP servers. Bugger, it hadn't occurred to me that the screwed up dependencies for potato users would go all the way to breaking task-kde. *slap* As for potato packages, I'm not sure how those are generally done. If all else fails, I can ask for use of the machine I was last building potato packages on, although I will need to check first because they're big and nasty and take three hours to compile on my laptop and almost blow my physical+swap memory limits, so I don't want to just log on to someone else's box and hit build without asking. :) Ben. -- Ben Burton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Director of Training Australian Informatics Olympiad Committee I don't feel a part of any kind of sisterhood. Again, it's the most disappointing thing where I get criticized by women more than men on how I play the piano. They find it offensive. I'm just going, well, this is how I choose to express myself, so if you're truly a strong, independent woman, then how could you possibly find me being a strong, independent woman offensive? - Tori Amos
Re: koffice?
> The first "version switched" koffice package, I attempted to do the same > thing. I ended up with strange things like each package having all the > manpages, some missing library dependencies, and maybe some other things. > Ivan then "took a look at it" and (I think) created the current i386 > packages on kde.debian.net. Aah. These problems will be because I'm using debhelper 3 functionality in the sid/woody packages. Bummer. Indeed. (btw, the reason for the version switch was that KOffice is now on its own release schedule, so I am using the KOffice version [1.1] instead of the KDE version [2.x]). b. -- Ben Burton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Director of Training Australian Informatics Olympiad Committee The only way a woman can ever reform her husband is by boring him so completely that he loses all possible interest in life. - Oscar Wilde
Re: koffice?
> With the current problems with koffice for the potato packages, the recent > announcement of KDE2 finally making it to woody and the fact that I'm > running Progeny, which is woody-based, should I try replacing my current > KDE from Ivan's site with KDE from Progeny and/or woody directly? FWIW, I'm hoping that over the weekend I can do something with koffice to make it easier to backport to potato.. Ben. -- Ben Burton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Director of Training Australian Informatics Olympiad Committee I'm always being attacked by delegate Walker. He's been attacking me ever since I used to touch him up in the [ALP] Youth Council 20 years ago. - Paul Keating on Frank Walker
Re: KOffice 1.1 Beta1
> I'll ensure that http://www.koffice.org/install-binaries.phtml is > updated. Grazie. > Sorry, I can't find any mention of this. What flavours of Debian are the > binaries avaialbe for (e.g. potatos, testing, etc) Binaries for unstable will always be available at the usual debian places (www.debian.org, ftp.debian.org, etc). Binaries for testing and stable (if I may speak for those who run kde.debian.net) will be available at kde.debian.net but will take longer to appear since there will be some non-trivial work involved in backporting things to testing/stable. Thanks, Ben. -- Ben Burton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Director of Training Australian Informatics Olympiad Committee Bigamy is having one wife too many. Monogamy is the same. - Oscar Wilde
KOffice/etc and potato
Hi. FWIW, I'm writing a python script to run through debian/ and automate many of the changes required to turn a woody/sid package into a potato package. This script is specifically geared towards KDE apps. I'm hoping that this will make the creation of up-to-date packages easier, what with the increasing set of incompatibilities. Anyway, the current plan is to automate the following changes. If anyone has something else to add to this list, please let me know. (All changes will be confirmed before they are made). - Change version from upstream- to upstream-0.potato - Search for and fix dependencies on upstream- where n >= 1; this is in debian/control and debian/*.shlibs - Downgrade DH_COMPAT from 3 to 2 and fix the debhelper version in Build-Depends - Search debian/rules for dh_installman calls and replace them with a set of commands that do the same thing (including reading *.manpages) - Add ldconfig calls to postinst and postrm scripts that are currently being added by dh_makeshlibs Ben.
Re: Koffice bug - still open?
> > A packaging problem. I did a `dpkg -i --force-overwrite > > This is the Wrong Thing(tm) to do. Any kind of --force-* is > Nasty(tm) in a stable distribution (with development > distributions it is OK and, AFAIK, the default). Hi. Firstly, let me say that with the 0404 packages, you can use --force-overwrite and no harm will come to you, _as_long_as_ you upgrade koffice-libs *first*. The problem is that the old koffice-libs contains lots of man pages that link to undocumented. The newer (0404) binary packages each contain their own real (albeit minimal) man pages and I forgot some conflicts lines (*blush*), hence the clash. Yes, --force-* is wrong for a stable distribution. However, the packages on kde.debian.net are *not* stable. This is one of many reasons they're on kde.debian.net and not ftp.debian.org. They're the unstable packages ported to potato so that potato users can have the benefit of using them, which means they're even *more* unstable than the unstable packages - there is an extra place for things to screw up (namely the backporting from sid to potato). Now all of this being said, there are currently beta1-2 packages in sid that should resolve all of the nasty conflicts you are all finding with the 0404 packages. Once these are backported to potato, hopefully everything will install cleanly and everyone will be happier. :) Ben. -- Ben Burton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Director of Training Australian Informatics Olympiad Committee There is much to be said in favour of modern journalism. By giving us the opinions of the uneducated, it keeps us in touch with the ignorance of the community. - Oscar Wilde
Man pages (kdesdk, koffice)
(I'm sending this to kde-devel also since it's a general KDE issue, not just Debian). > I've just been informed however, that the Debian KDE packages have already > been creating manual pages. A cursory search through our CVS finds me a > handful of these, three in the kdebase module to be precise. I have a set of man pages written for all the apps in kdesdk and koffice. In particular this includes every command-line utility in kdesdk (of which there are many). You can find them all in the CVS under kdesdk/debian/*.1 (and koffice/debian/*.1). Aspects of the man pages that are debian-specific: Some of them refer the reader to author's notes, html docs and the like in debian-specific paths (eg. /usr/share/doc/kword/html). The man pages for qtdoc and kdedoc (from kdesdk) are very debian-specific since I patched the scripts to look for the corresponding Qt/KDE docs in the debian-installed locations; both of these man pages also have a DEBIAN USERS section detailing how to get the Qt/KDE docs. I can't speak for anyone else's man pages, but feel free to take all of those from kdesdk and koffice and put them in /doc in whatever format you like. My only desire is that they can be converted back into *roff format since Debian requires a man page for executable. Btw, I'm also happy to keep maintaining the English versions of these docs if people would like it (and I'm happy not to if people would prefer that also :) ). My only other request is that people let me know if/when the man pages are converted and placed in /doc so I can pull them from debian/ and change the packaging details accordingly. Ben. -- Ben Burton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Director of Training Australian Informatics Olympiad Committee A cynic is a man who knows the price of everything, and the value of nothing. - Oscar Wilde
Re: Man pages (kdesdk, koffice)
> I don't know how the Debian system works. Is it possible to create a patch > that can be applied to the original man pages when the Debian packages are > created? Yes, certainly; I would be happy with this for the Debian-specific amendments. > I would be extremely happy for you to continue maintaining these, and as > soon as they're converted and in place, I'll let you know. That could take > a little while, so don't hold your breath just now. Sure, not a problem. Ben. -- Ben Burton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Director of Training Australian Informatics Olympiad Committee I was implying that the Honorable Member for Wentworth was like a lizard on a rock - alive, but looking dead. - Paul Keating, on John Hewson
Re: Debian Menu and a KDE glitch?
> command="~/office52/program/soffice I don't suppose the problem could be due to a missing close quotes could it? Or maybe this is just a copy-paste error.. anyway, thought I'd mention it. Ben. :) -- Ben Burton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Director of Training Australian Informatics Olympiad Committee Nothing, except my genius. (Replying to a US customs official on being asked if he had anything to declare) - Oscar Wilde
Re: Laptop Power Control modules not showing up
Do you have package klaptopdaemon installed? Ben. -- Ben Burton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Director of Training Australian Informatics Olympiad Committee There is no such thing as a moral book or an immoral book. Books are well written or badly written. That is all. - Oscar Wilde
Re: Making DEBs from the kdepackages
> The KDE source tarballs seem to have a 'debian' directory to enable them > to be build into a Debian package. > > What command do I need to issue to build the Debian package from the > source tarball? The easiest way is to sit in the directory above debian/ and type "debuild". When everything else is done you'll get an error regarding GnuPG signing the packages, but you can just ignore that. However, there are caveats. If you're on a potato system you may run into problems because the stuff in debian/ may (and certainly does for koffice and kdesdk) rely on debhelper 3 stuff, and potato only has debhelper 2. Also, the debian packages may rely on patches to the original sources. For instance, if you take a CVS snapshot of the koffice sources you need to apply the patches in debian/cvs.patch before building the debian packages. There may be other issues also; it depends on what packages you're trying to build. Btw, why not just download existing packages? Ben. -- Ben Burton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Director of Training Australian Informatics Olympiad Committee Paradoxically though it may seem, it is none the less true that life imitates art far more than art imitates life. - Oscar Wilde
Re: Konqueror not showing favicons
> Ok, it's a setting in .kde/share/config/konquerorrc, but seems to be off by > default. Does anyone know why? My first thought is to try backing up and then deleting your old konquerorrc, seeing if favicons work (which they should) and then seeing if there's any obvious differences in the config files that could be the culprits. An older version of konqueror had a FavIcon field in konquerorrc (IIRC) which for some reason was set to false in my local ~/.kde, but when I changed it to true I still didn't get favicons and despite more tinkering it wasn't until I deleted konquerorrc altogether that I got the favicons back. Well, all of that might help and it might not.. :-/ Ben. -- Ben Burton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Director of Training Australian Informatics Olympiad Committee If God dislikes gays so much, how come he picked Michelangelo, a known homosexual, to paint the Sistine Chapel ceiling while assigning Anita to go on TV and push orange juice? - Chicago columnist Mike Royko
Re: kpackage-2.1.1-2 crashes with sig 11
> I installed kde-2.1.2 with install task-kde. This set up a panel icon for
> kpackage. But kpackage fails to start from icon or cmd line. Everything
> else seems to work fine including aa fonts. Any ideas on fixing this?
Can you try running kpackage from the command line and mail us the errors
that come up on your console?
Thanks,
Ben.
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Re: kpackage-2.1.1-2 crashes with sig 11
> > > kpackage. But kpackage fails to start from icon or cmd line. Everything
>
> I've had this on my system too. It was gone after apt-get install rpm...
Hi Mike.. someone else has had the same problem that was solved by installing
package rpm (thanks Andre!). Could you please test this also - install
package rpm - and if everything works we can let Ivan know that his
Recommends: rpm needs to be a Depends:.
Thanks,
Ben.
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- Roy Eskapa, Bizarre Sex (1987)
Re: kpackage-2.1.1-2 crashes with sig 11
> I tested this on one of my Debian systems and removing rpm caused the crash
> of kpackage.After reinstalling rpm , kpackage started up fine. So it
> appears that with Debian, rpm is a Depends.
Thanks for that. I've filed a bug report asking for rpm to be listed as a
dependency which should solve the problem for everyone.
Grazie,
Ben.
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The Bible contains six admonishments to homosexuals, and 362 to
heterosexuals. This doesn't mean God doesn't love heterosexuals, it's
just that they need more supervision.
- Lynn Lavner
Re: kde 2.2 beta deps
> Are there any kde 2.2 beta/cvs deps ? Yes but they're currently only in experimental, not potato/woody/sid. The 2.2 alpha2 release is next Monday (I believe); you might want to wait and see whether or not KDE 2.2 will be moved into sid at this point. Ben. -- Ben Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Air Force pinned a medal on me for killing a man and discharged me for making love to one. - Leonard Matlovich, former American Air Force seargant, 1975
Re: Creating projects in Quanta using CVS
> Does anyone know why the option to 'Get files from CVS repository (cvs > checkout)' is not available to use when creating a project in Quanta? Is > this perhaps an option that is not enabled at compile time? If so, can this > option be enabled for future releases of this package? I had a look through the sources; the button is disabled because the code for importing from CVS has not yet been written. :) Ben. -- Ben Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've never felt anything that moves me as much as my piano. I'm an emotional player. I don't really like people. I prefer my piano to people. It's totally reliable and it's alive. I can hear what it's saying. For the most part, piano are female to me. Sometimes they're dykes, and they're always good fun. - Tori Amos, Mick St. Michael CD Booklet
Packaging WM themes - question
Hi. I'm about to submit an ITP for a set of KDE window decoration and widget themes and I'm trying to decide upon the best way to package them. They're all from the same author (part of a single large release with the same version number) and there's about 39 themes in total. Options are (1) release one huge-arse binary package; (2) release 39 packages, one for each theme; (3) release a moderate number of packages each containing a few themes. I am hesitant to do (1) because of the user's disk space usage. I am hesitant to do (2) because I'm not sure that debian wants a million kde-theme-* packages on its servers. It seems GTK and enlightenment themes are currently using method (2) but there's not nearly so many themes on the servers. Thus I lean towards (3) but I'd really like people's input. Thanks, Ben. -- Ben Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have a fascination for people. I don't like them all, but I have a fascination with human nature. - Tori Amos
Re: Packaging WM themes - question
> Although best would be a KDE-theme installer. Are the themes > available individually anywhere, in a format consistent enough for > automating the debianization and installation? By this do you mean an empty debian package whose configuration procedure is to download themes and install them on the fly? The themes are available on the web in a format that's very easily debianised/installed. However, the connection between my machine and the Russian server is quite flaky, and I recall the author saying the problem was at his/her end (although for the life of me I can't find the email). Thus I would be happier for the themes to be in debian per se. :) Ben. -- Ben Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Each song has a little soul, a little persona, it's own little birth certificate and favorite shoe shops. - Tori Amos
Re: Packaging WM themes - question
> Is it generally possible (I know this is possible with sawfish) for the > user to install a theme without root privileges? If so, then one big theme > package is useful to allow a user to browse themes, select the one(s) they > like, and copy it/them into an appropriate spot in their home directory > (after which they can delete the big package). Yes, certainly possible. I am however attached to the idea of a user unfamiliar with the details being able to simply say "apt-get install kde-theme-foo" and have it/them magically show up in the control panel. Of course I am open to being convinced otherwise. :) Ben. -- Ben Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Art is the most intense mode of individualism that the world has known. - Oscar Wilde
Re: Packaging WM themes - question
> ... so you get a bigger machine for the job. I suspect the point of Casper's post was that this is not always possible. Ben. -- Ben Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] All great truths begin as blasphemies. - George Bernard Shaw
WM (KDE) themes - current plan
Okay, so I'm going to go file the ITP now.
My current plan is to:
1. Actually package the themes, at least until an alternate method for
packaging data (as is being discussed) comes to fruition. By no means do I
plan to package kde.themes.org; this is a nice set of themes (same author,
same source) that can get people started. I'm not doing a theme installer
just now; it would be quite some hassle keeping the installer in sync with
the remote sites, and the remote server for this theme set has its own
problems.
2. Bundle the 39 themes into 5 binary packages. This was a compromise aimed
at having #packages small but keeping the split meaningful. Currently the
packages will be -matte, -metallic, -neon, -pastel and -sweetpill. Each
package contains a set of themes of (broadly) similar feel, and the window
decoration themes and widget themes in each package work well together.
Furthermore, the upstream author plans to make more themes for the next
release, and (s)he has verified that they will fit into those categories
nicely; thus as #themes increases, #packages should remain fixed.
COPYRIGHT ISSUES:
John Galt raises an important point here. I've posted small shots of all the
themes at http://people.debian.org/~bab/themes/ and I would love if people
could take a glance and point out any obvious copyright violations. Some
themes are original, some are based on IceWM themes according to the author's
comments.
Thanks,
Ben.
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- Oscar Wilde
Re: What's happened to Brahms?
Brahms is actually in the official KDE sources, in the kmusic module (which is not currently part of the official KDE release). http://webcvs.kde.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/kmusic/brahms/ Looking at the commit dates, it seems it's being actively worked on. Ben.
Re: WM (KDE) themes - current plan
> However, "is looking similar to one" a big problem ? If so, sawmill > seems to contain a theme that resembles QNX, for example. The only response so far I've had from debian-legal on this issue: [ begin quote ] This was a large issue several years ago, when a number companies sued each other for infringement of copyright on the "look and feel" of their products. The FSF organized a boycott of (at least?) one of the companies involved, and it was a hot issue for a while. The FSF might still have material about it on their web site. I think the suits were dropped and there was no real resolution in a legal sense, but the general conclusion in the industry was that the "look and feel" of a product was not bound by copyright -- at least, I haven't heard of anyone even trying to sue over that since. Note that building a theme that "looks similar" is different from actually copying graphics and icons. The graphics have their own copyright, and if they're complex (such as in a Star Wars theme), it might be difficult to make new ones that look similar without in the process creating derived works. In some cases, if the theme contains logos or product names, you might also run into trademark law. Richard Braakman (Occasionally has lunch with a lawyer) [ end quote ] Ben. -- Ben Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] As long as war is regarded as wicked it will always have its fascinations. When it is looked upon as vulgar, it will cease to be popular. - Oscar Wilde
Re: Testing and KDE
> kdesdk is broken: kdesdk.deb is arch: all and depends on kbabel and
> such, which are arch: any, but aren't built for alpha, arm, m68k or
> powerpc. kdesdk.deb is thus uninstallable on those architectures, and
> testing rejects it for that reason.
Hi.. to ask a stupid question, is this something I (kdesdk maintainer) need
to address? Currently the kdesdk source produces a number of Architecture:
all packages (including kdesdk) and a number of Architecture: any packages
(including kbabel, etc). Everything the binary kdesdk depends on is other
binaries from the kdesdk source.
Or is it something the autobuilders need to address?
Thanks,
Ben.
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Each time that one loves is the only time one has ever loved. Difference
of object does not alter singleness of passion. It merely intensifies it.
We can have but one great experience at best, and the secret of life is
to reproduce that experience as often as possible.
- Oscar Wilde, The Picture of Dorian Gray
Re: kde 2.2 deps for unstable ?
> what deps are you missing? s/deps/debs/ is my guess. b. -- Ben Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] When the gods choose to punish us, they merely answer our prayers. - Oscar Wilde
Re: configure: error: Qt (>= 1.42 and < 2.0)
> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= 1.42 and < 2.0) (libraries) not > found. Please check your installation! May I ask what you're trying to configure? Looks like it's after the qt1 libraries, not the qt2 libraries - is this a KDE 1.x app? b. -- Ben Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] All the world's a stage and most of us are desperately unrehearsed. - Sean O'Casey
Re: kpackage - rpm missing dependency?
See: http://bugs.debian.org/97946 The problem was fixed with the last kpackage upload. I checked on my system (kpackage 4:2.1.1-3) and rpm is indeed listed as a Depends:. This version of kpackage will presumably make it into testing shortly. Ben. -- Ben Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am finding that vulnerability gives me great strength, because you're not hiding anymore. It's really about being a pioneer for myself, going into the places where I am not being taught. I have to teach myself. - Tori Amos
Solution to artsd woes
Hi all. I had the same problem that was reported by several people on this list with the 2.2 artsd segfaulting. A fix that worked on my system was to go into the control centre to the sound server configuration, move to the Sound I/O tab and manually set the sound I/O method. My machine uses alsa. The I/O method was initially set to "autodetect" which caused a crash. Specifically setting it to alsa also caused a crash, but selecting OSS has proved to be a success. Presumably it's using the OSS compatibility stuff built into alsa. Anyway. Bottom line is try manually setting the I/O method to OSS - even if you use alsa - and see if it works. Ben. :) -- Ben Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've never felt anything that moves me as much as my piano. I'm an emotional player. I don't really like people. I prefer my piano to people. It's totally reliable and it's alive. I can hear what it's saying. For the most part, piano are female to me. Sometimes they're dykes, and they're always good fun. - Tori Amos, Mick St. Michael CD Booklet
Re: kde child panel
> I've a problem with the child panel (kde 2.1.1). Every applet (e.g > newsticker) I add to a child panel isn't stored - I have to re-add it every > time I restart KDE. What's wrong with it? Hi.. this is a bug in 2.1.1 that has been fixed in 2.2. Ben. -- Ben Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am not young enough to know everything. - Oscar Wilde
KDE 2.2 and KOffice
Hi. While we're all discussing schedules, the KOffice 1.1-beta3 release is today. However, my current plan is to wait for KDE 2.2 to hit unstable and then upload new KOffice packages built against the KDE 2.2 libs. If anyone desperately wants KOffice 1.1-beta3 now, let me know and I'll try and get an upload done asap with the 2.1.2 libs. Otherwise it'll be a short wait. Ben. -- Ben Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm a winter girl; I like coming out when things are desolate and everybody's ready to slit their wrists. - Tori Amos
Re: KDE 2.2 and KOffice
> Since Ivan has already said he is not intending to back port KDE 2.2 to > potato, it would be nice if we maintained versions of KOffice that use > 2.1.2 libs (at least for those of us who haven't moved beyond potato yet). Cool. Btw, this won't affect the KOffice upload schedule because the potato packages will need to be built on a potato machine which will have the 2.1.2 libs installed anyway, regardless of what happens to sid. Ben. -- Ben Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] A man who does not think for himself does not think at all. - Oscar Wilde
Re: KDE2 from tdyc, dev-packages?
> I cannot find a kde2-dev package (or similar). Which packages > should I install? Go for kdelibs-dev, that should drag in all the stuff you need. Ben. -- Ben Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Every Friday night I have a margarita with a Christian God. I'll share the observations of my week, and ask for answers and try to keep an open mind. Then we both move on. - Tori Amos, Philadelphia Inquirer, May 3, 1998
Re: kdelibs3 and beta1
> When I try to update to the kde2.2beta1 with dselect, all the beta > packages depend on kdelibs3 >=2.2-cvs20010622-1 but kdelibs3 isn't > updated beyond 2.1.2. I'm using http://http.us.debian.org/, should I > be looking at a different mirror? The kdelibs packages are still incoming. If you desperately want them now you can get them from http://incoming.debian.org/ or otherwise you can wait a day or two and they'll turn up on your mirror. Ben. -- Ben Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think you have to know who you are, get to know the monster that lives in your soul, dive deep into your soul and explore it. I don't want to renounce my dark side. The truth has always held an enormous interest for me. Everything is therapeutic, no matter what you do. - Tori Amos, Connection Magazine, 6/98
Re: kde2.2-beta1
> Well, I'm wondering how you did this. :-) I'm running Debian unstable too > and when I update I get a whole slew of dependency problems because > kdelibs3 is still 2.1.2-3 on my system (other packages like kmail are > already 2.2-cvs). Since it worked for you I am obviously doing something > wrong, could someone please tell me what I need to do to get the beta1 > kdelibs3 package? See the thread "kdelibs3 and beta1" on this mailing list, emails posted about ten minutes before yours. Ben. -- Ben Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] A thing is not necessarily true because a man dies for it. - Oscar Wilde
Re: kde2.2-beta1
> Hm, I was too slow. Just tried to get kdelibs3 and kdebase from > http://incoming.debian.org, but they are not there anymore! They also are > not in ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/k/kdelibs, so where are they now? They got picked up by the server yesterday afternoon and should show up after today's 2pm (Oklahoma time) update. Ben. -- Ben Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] The bumble bee piano tinkle came first. This one evolved slowly but it stayed an obsession until it was finished. I entered boxer occupation - part of me not wanting to hear what 'I' was saying the other part fighting off 'The Brain Drain.' I finally distracted 'The Brain Drain' with the task of filing chocolate cake recipes. - Tori Amos on "Silent All These Years"
Re: kde2.2-beta1
> Hm, I was too slow. Just tried to get kdelibs3 and kdebase from > http://incoming.debian.org, but they are not there anymore! They also are > not in ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/k/kdelibs, so where are they now? Oops, ignore the last post. It seems Ivan has simply uploaded newer versions; take another look now. They did still get picked up yesterday afternoon though (see incoming/REPORT) and should show up on your mirror this afternoon, other problems aside. Ben. -- Ben Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] For he who lives more lives than one, / More deaths than one must die. - Oscar Wilde
Re: KDE 2.2beta1 impressions
> Since I am obviously the only one experiencing this it could well be a bug > associated with my local configuration. Just tried it out, I'm getting your behaviour also (with English settings). Ben. -- Ben Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are only ten ideas under the sun. What makes the difference is how you spice them. - Tori Amos
Re: overlapping pacakges
I believe package keystone no longer exists in kde 2.2. Removing it may help your cause. (Ivan: should conflicts: and replaces: keystone be declared somewhere?) Ben. -- Ben Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Each song has a little soul, a little persona, it's own little birth certificate and favorite shoe shops. - Tori Amos
Re: [2.2beta1] Install of quanta failed
Ivan, does quanta.mo belong in the kde-i18n-* packages, given that quanta is not one of the officially released apps? If it does I'll remove the i18n files from the quanta packages, although it seems a little strange to me. Ben. -- Ben Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can only be you. A lot of times it's never enough for people. - Tori Amos
https errors and possible cause
I'm getting the same errors with https, even after purging and reinstalling the kde*-crypto packages. What seems to be happening (looking at .xsession_errors) is that KDE is after libcrypto.so and libssl.so, which belong to package libssl-dev, not the standard libssl0.9.6. Package libssl-dev is not listed as a dependency of kde*-crypto, and I (and I suspect Joseph) don't have it installed. So for those experiencing the problem, a temporary fix should be to install libssl-dev. Ben. -- Ben Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am in a duel to the death with this wallpaper, one of us has got to go. (One month before he died on the same bed.) - Oscar Wilde
