ssl support and all
Hi, I've made new openssl 0.9.6 packages for potato. They have been uploaded and will be available soon. The packages for woody are built but I'm waiting for word back from the official maintainer of them for Debian for permision to do a NMU. Ivan -- -------- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: Debian KDE timetable
Hi > 1) What is the current status of KDE for Debian? (What packages are > available? What is the correct procedure to get & install them?) I'm working on updating the kde.tdyc.com web site to reflect alot of this, but I'm also trying to keep up with alot of other things too. :) Users of the development version of Debian (woody) will find alot of new KDE based apps are showing up left and right. Users of potato will find that I haven't back ported any of them. I plan on putting a list together of the apps and dropping it on kde.tdyc.com for all to see... I'll start backporting once I get past a few more milestones here... http://kde.tdyc.com/ will give you a list of the mirrors you can use to get the Potato version of KDE 2.0. The correct method is and always will be through kde.tdyc.com and it's mirrors or through Debian directly. > 2) What are your current estimates of times & forthcoming events of > significance to Debian KDE? (Ex: What are you planning on doing, and > approximately when? What should Debian KDE users be looking forward to > or planning for? Do you have a need or desire for any assistance in > your efforts? (And, if so, what kind of assistance.)) Well... KDE 2.0.1 was scheduled (I believe) for a month after 2.0 was released...it was mainly directed at translations (i18n) and major bug fixes. The versions of KDE 2 that I produce are based on this code pulled directly from it's CVS tree. So that when 2.0.1 is official we will be already using it. There are alot of things that could still be done with it all...but my goals are this: 1: slow down the changes to the packages... - no more breaking packages down...I'm done with this for 2.0 2: work on policy based changes and integration with Debian as a whole - work with other dm developers to handle proper addition of kde to other dm's like gdm or wdm (and vice versa) 3: get all apps functional or remove them - kaiman still has some issues, but mostly works - kmidi is still hosed (so it will either get fixed soon or will be removed) I really want to get KDE 2 (in woody) stable (from a changes standpoint) so that we can give it a nice long beating before woody is released. potato users will still have the benefit of me backporting all of this to potato and making sure a smooth transition from potato to woody from a KDE standpoint will exist. KDE 2.0 will not go into potato officially. There is just too many pre-requisits that cannot be backported. ummm...for the future beyond 2.0.1...KDE development is going extremly fast towards 2.1...this is reflected in the -head branch of kde's cvs. I'm in the process of migrating all the changes I've made in the past few weeks to that branch and eventually will probably make them available off of kde.tdyc.com. Assistance: well..yes...I need 2 or 3 types of people...notice I say types... 1: Bug hunters: These would be people who would keep track of bug reports between Debian and KDE...maybe checking mailing lists to see if there are fixes burried somewhere...The KDE BTS system is really backlogged and I dont' think that alot of the Developers keep up with it. So in order to find fixes one must keep up with the mailing lists..which I just can't do completely. 2: Web page people: These would be responsible for keeping the web page (kde.tdyc.com) up to speed. I'd like to have several things on this page... a) a complete list of mirrors b) current status c) current list of packages available (both potato and woody) with may links to them or something d) bug information e) maybe a way for people to submit what packages they would like to see packages (kinda like a wnpp that debian has) Other than this I just need help fixing stuff that's broken. I'll have people ask me to do things differently...I'll do that..but unless you help me it won't probably happen for a while...so if you see something that should be changed...tell me that it needs to be changed and als TELL ME HOW. diff's work great, or a detailed description of what needs to be done will also work. If I get this I'll just fix it on the fly while I'm reading the email. Also...I want people to use this mailing list. Don't email me directly unless it's a personal question. Let's share our experiences and help each other. uhh..anything else? Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: my recent builds
> I just finished builds on both my Debian and RedHat computers using today's > CVS. It has actually been two weeks since I built, and there were numerous > changes including a new version of qt-copy (2.2.2). I'm in the process of downloading 2.2.2 and building new qt packages for both potato and woody.. I should have these done by tomorrow. > Here are some "upstream" issues I found. > > (1) kaiman caused a crash (the panel disappeared and so did some borders, > but I could get out of it with ctrl-alt-BS). The next time I started it > from the command line rather than from the multimedia K menu, and everthing > worked fine (including the mp3 playing). In the month or so I have been > playing mp3's with kaiman, I have never encountered this sort of instability > before. So I will keep an eye on this one including more testing of the K > menu. > > (2) kmid still does not work. Same error message as for the last month > or so... > > Those are the only issues I am aware of in my version of KDE2. > > Here are some things that worked. > > (1) kmidi works fine if you load sound fonts first. AFAIK you can only > load sound fonts for the SBLive if you are using the ALSA driver. ack! that would explain the probs I have (sblive)... how do you load sound fonts? > (2) help works without any of the problems that others have encountered on > this list. For example, I can launch help without konqueror and konqueror > comes right up with the help centre displayed. I've noticed that it only works (on my sytems) the first time around...after that you must already have a kfmclient loaded... > I am actually building KDE2 on two separate computers (it requires 4 hours > on the Athlon 600 and 17 hours on the pentium-133). Since qt-copy had > changed so radically I didn't try Ivan's Debian patch for it, but I may try > that next week so that I hope to have both a debian build on the Debian > potato system and traditional build on the RedHat system as a direct > comparison for each other. good point on the patch... I'm not sure...the patch contains a bunch of i18n updates that may or many not work with 2.2.2 > Ivan, that is a good start to the web site. If you can give high priority > to writing a cook book of exactly how to build the Debian version, I will > test your instructions. I'm working on that... :) It's a high priority as I download the 50+megs of updates + 8 megs of 2.2.2 qt and 12 megs of qt-embedded which I need to build on 2 i386 systems (potato/woody) and a sparc woody system. :) Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: Debian KDE timetable
> Is the KDE package for the current stable debian rather bug free? > (I.e.: Is is in a "useable" condition for day to day work? I.e., not so > many bugs as to be tiresome to use?) Or, would you suggest I wait for > the next major release of debian (woody) or KDE (2.01) to use debian KDE > for day to day work? It's extremly usable. There are still bugs mind you...but I use it for my desktop and my wife uses the potato version as hers. > If you don't mind making a guess, when do you think you might start the > backporting to potato? Once that occurs, how often should I anticipate > doing an update of KDE onto my system (i.e., how often will updates then > occur of KDE for potato)? well, if I backport then changes will occur constantly...ummm...the core stuff should start slowing down. Alot fo the rebuilds I've done recently for woody are due to X4 integration which I dont' have to work about with potato. qt 2.2.2 was just released so that causes a rebuild. It really all depends. The core stuff shouldn't get updated that often...especially since once kde 2.0.1 is out the door I expect to see very little work done on it by the KDE folks...along the same lines as the amount of work seen on kde 1.1.2 since it's release. Most of the effort will be focused on KDE 2.1. but for contrib apps those will continue to be created, updated, etc... > Regarding obtaining debs from mirrors of your site: The two mirrors > listed (at kde.tdyc.com) show mirror updates of weekly & ??. I'm > wondering if your updates might come so often that the mirrors are > likely to not have your updates for several days. The ?'s are because I have yet to either ask or get the time tables for the updates. I just put that page up a couple days ago. :) My recommendation for mirroring is once a night. > Also, On your web site you say: > "KDE 2.0 is now a part of woody but since woody is considered unstable > most people out there who have a need for KDE will be using potato. For > *many* reasons KDE is not a part of potato and will never be." > > I know this depends on _many_ things beyond your control, but if you > don't mind taking a guess, when do you estimate woody will be released > as "stable"? I have no clue whatsoever. There is alot of things going on on the backend which may determine a short release cycle compared to a long release cycle. If you want to go on past timelines you can say next June'sh... :) > How long do you think it will be from when KDE 2.01 comes out till you > have the Debian version out? 24-48 hours usually...depending on if I'm around...but remember, I build from the 2.01 CVS whenever it changes. the potato build is about 99% up to date. I'm waiting to build the next suite until I get the new qt built. > > KDE 2.0 will not go into potato officially. There is just too many > > pre-requisits that cannot be backported. > > I'm a bit confused by this comment. Does this mean that your KDE 2.0 > for potato will be in some way unavoidably deficient (because the > prerequisites can't be backported)? If so, deficient in what manner? > What exactly are the problems the prerequisites cause? no no no...I mean it will not be "official"..ie, found in the official Debian potato distribution. I have backported all of the required packages to potato and have made them available along with KDE on kde.tdyc.com. But we (ie.. Debian) cannot backport all of those apps (well, there's not that manY) just to get KDE into potato. > PS: This mail of yours is very informative. I suggest you might do > well to post it (the one you sent, not the one with my comments here) to > one of the KDE lists so people there are aware of this too. Perhaps > even send it to dot.kde.org, or put it on your web site & notify > dot.kde.org about it. Once I get all the web stuff up to snuff I'll do so...thanks Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
New QT package
Hi, Just to let you all know I'm building QT 2.2.2 packages right now for both i386 and sparc. I should have them uploaded in a few hours. So those of you who have packages that depend on it beware and check the package changelog to see if you need to do rebuilds. I'll also be building a qt-embedded package (if all goes well). Ivan -- -------- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: micro-HOWTO on loading sound fonts with SB Live!
> > ack! that would explain the probs I have (sblive)... > > > > how do you load sound fonts? > > When I first searched this out with google it was clear from the *many* > repetitions of this question that this is one of the great unknowns of Linux > sound. (In fact a lot of people are under the impression you cannot do it, > and therefore propagate this mis-information.) > > Hence, here is the micro-Howto. Ivan, when you confirm this works for you, > you will do everybody a great service by putting this on the kde-debian web > site. > for woody it's in a package called awe-drv. I'm not sure about potato. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: Minor issues with the kde.tdyc.com kde2 potato packages.
> The second thing that's broken is korn: it does not work with IMAP. A bug > report + fix was filed to kde: > http://bugs.kde.org/db/14/14237.html fixed in my code now...so the next round you should see this fixed. Ivan -- -------- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: "potato" ssl in kde.tdyc.com breaks apache-ssl as packaged
> Perhaps this should be either documented or a recompiled apache-ssl package > > made available. Hi, thanks for the info...once official .deb's are made available I'll start backporting anything that depends on libssl including apache-ssl and libmod-ssl Ivan -- ------------ Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: micro-HOWTO on loading sound fonts with SB Live!
On Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 08:09:15AM -0800, Alan W. Irwin wrote: > On Wed, 15 Nov 2000, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > > > for woody it's in a package called awe-drv. I'm not sure about potato. > > I think you partially misunderstood me. I am suggesting that you put the > micro-HOWTO on the kde_debian web site to help KDE-Debian users use kmid. > Obviously if the latest awe-drv package is on woody that simplifies the > micro-HOWTO for that case. For my potato case, awe-drv is too old so that > is why I had to download the latest tarball. I think you misunderstood me. :) The files you stated needed downloading in that step are in a package called awe-drv. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: micro-HOWTO on loading sound fonts with SB Live!
On Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 10:30:33AM -0800, Alan W. Irwin wrote: > On Wed, 15 Nov 2000, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > > > On Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 08:09:15AM -0800, Alan W. Irwin wrote: > > > On Wed, 15 Nov 2000, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > > > > > > > for woody it's in a package called awe-drv. I'm not sure about potato. > > > > > > I think you partially misunderstood me. I am suggesting that you put the > > > micro-HOWTO on the kde_debian web site to help KDE-Debian users use kmid. > > > Obviously if the latest awe-drv package is on woody that simplifies the > > > micro-HOWTO for that case. For my potato case, awe-drv is too old so that > > > is why I had to download the latest tarball. > > > > I think you misunderstood me. :) > > > > The files you stated needed downloading in that step are in a package > > called awe-drv. > > Please re-read what I have written above. I have clearly acknowledged what > you have just re-stated for the woody case so there is no misunderstanding > on my part. The potato case is different from the woody case, however. > Potato awe-drv was so old that it's sxfload doesn't work with SB Live so I > *had* to download the latest tarball. I understand. My whole point originally was to point out to woody users that the files you refered to *were* in woody. > All these woody versus potato details are important, but still a minor side > issue compared to the principal point of putting the correct sound font > loading information in a micro HOWTO on the kde debian site. Are you willing > to do that if I write it? Once you confirm everything on woody, I can > refine what I have written so far to include that case as well, htmlize it, > and send it to you, but I am not going to do that work without some positive > indication from you that you think it would be a worthwhile addition to your > site. I plan on putting this information up on the web site. I'm having issues with alsa currently on my box and need a bit of time to work on it when I'm able to reboot. (these qt builds take too much time) Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: Bug#77151: konqueror reloads page when starting xmms files
Is there anyone else out there seeing this? (In specific any potato users) I don't see this on my woody box and haven't had a chance to check on my potato one. On Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 02:29:07AM +0100, Daniel Borgmann wrote: > Package: konqueror > Version: 3.0 (KDE 2.0) > Severity: normal > Compiler: gcc version 2.95.2 2220 (Debian GNU/Linux) > OS: Linux 2.2.17 i686 (Debian Package 4:2.0-final-0.potato.4) > > this happens really often, but i never managed to reproduce it. i watch a > webpage in konqueror. then i start a new mp3 file in xmms and konqueror > reloads. this is especially annoying when ediring a formular, cause > everything gets deleted. it would be nice to safe formdate betweend reloads > (like mozilla does). and of course it would be nice to fix this bug too ;) ---end quoted text--- -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
wait..let's go back a few steps...
ok..you stated that khelpcenter is working for you??? or did I read that wrong..ie with your builds... -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
kmidi
I got kmidi working... now I'm just playing to find out how to get it built properly so that I don't have to hack it each time around... Ivan -- -------- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
work needing help with
Here is a small list of things others can work on if they want to... 1: *dm integration In case the *proper* fix for handling other desktop managers doesn't get worked out prior to woody's release (and as well for current potato users) we need to have information on each of the other dm's as to how we add/remove kde2 to their listing. gdm and wdm both have selection lists (like kdm does) and I just need to have a way of adding and removing /usr/bin/kde2 to that list. 2: menu integration Getting rid of the Debian subdir from within the KDE menu has been on a wishlist for quite some time. If someone figures a way to do this cleanly and integrate Debian's menu system with KDE's that would be great. One idea was using kappfinder's facility... 3: bug reporting tool tweaks... I've done some of the work so far..but I'd like a way to add more information to the bug reports (debian specific). As with bug and reportbug I'd like the ability to send along with the bug report the version information of all related pacakges. hmmm...that's it so far..I know there's other stuff..but I'm brain farting.. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: Minor issues with the kde.tdyc.com kde2 potato packages.
> Thanks a lot; maybe http://bugs.kde.org/db/14/14233.html is also worth > fixing then, at least the description of the bug gets shows how kbiff used > to work (unseen instead of recent). as well... -- ---- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: wait..let's go back a few steps...
> If you are having any sort of trouble with help, then I suspect it is a > Debian packaging problem of some kind since my traditional builds don't have > help problems. I suppose it could be a configuration issue as well. I > am still pretty new to KDE2 so I am mostly just taking defaults and doing > nothing special, but perhaps you are doing some special configuration the > help system does not like? To approximate my configuration simply run > KDE2 on a user account that has never run it before (or wipe out .kde if > you don't mind destroying your current configuration). > > If there are any other help tests you want me to run on my system(s), let me > know. well I am certain it is in the way I am building or with one of the i18n patches as those are the only differences between upstream and my .debs. I don't think it's the i18n patches but who knows...if your pulling from CVS then you would not see those patches. My question is how are you building them. Are you using any of the Debian stuff or are you doing it the old fashion way? (I believe you said old fashion but I want to clarify as I'm spacy right now) If your doing it the old fashion way can you tell me the configure line you are using. I found the problem with kmidi was due to ./configure not getting --enable-debug passed to it. For whatever reason it wants that...so I'm wondering if there are similar problems... By default Debian packages are passed a --disable-debug (as per the guy who built all the configure stuff for KDE)...I'm trying builds currently without that to see if that helps... Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: micro-HOWTO on loading sound fonts with SB Live!
> (1) Use ALSA SB live driver! I don't have the reference any more, but I saw a > table a few months back comparing the different SB live drivers, and the > ALSA one was the only one that allowed sound font loading at that time. This > may have changed since for the non-ALSA drivers, but I haven't investigated > because ALSA does the job. I'm using the CVS version that http://members.tripod.de/iwai/awedrv.html points to which works..but /dev/sequencer fails and thus sfxload fails. Should I be using a different one? Ivan -- ---- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: micro-HOWTO on loading sound fonts with SB Live!
On Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 10:07:18AM -0800, Alan W. Irwin wrote: > I am using alsa-source-0.5.9c-1 and kernel-source-2.2.17 (which I obtained > from woody), I configure kernel sound to be modular, but no other sound > specifics, and I used (for the SB Live!) > setenv MODULE_LOC ../modules/ > setenv ALSA_NOPNP y > setenv ALSA_CARDS emu10k1 > and the make-kpkg command to build the kernel image and > modules. (I assume you are doing something similar, but I am repeating for > the benefit of the list.) For my alsa build I checked that > --with-sequencer=yes was configured in by default. For more modern alsa > systems you may now have to set another environment variable to trigger this > *required option* for midi via make-kpkg. > I think the only difference between our configs is kernel version... I'm using a 2.4 kernel. :) Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: kdelibs3g ??? = problems with kde2 contrib
On Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 01:02:43PM -0600, Tim Kelley wrote: > I've installed KDE and got it up and running ... however, I've added the > "contrib" section to my sources.list and done apt-get update ... > > Now, when I try to install one of the packages from contrib I get a > dependency error ... it seems all of them need "kdelibs2g", but I can't find > this anywhere. > > Isn't anyone else having this problem? contrib is for KDE 1.1.x apps only. If you want any of those apps then you need to add a "kde" to your apt line so that you can grab the KDE 1.1.x .debs Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
khelpcenter news
good news...I know what's wrong... now to just find out exactly where it's breaking...I'm doing a build right now that I believe will fix it and thus not require a konq window to be open prior to opening khelpcenter... cross your fingers Ivan -- -------- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: testing version of KDE2?
> Ivan, how will testing work (if at all) for your KDE2 packages? Supposing > the above time frame is two weeks does this mean that your two-week old > woody builds would start automatically migrating into testing (assuming no > serious bug reports)? Or will you rarely have a two-week old woody builds > and therefore no testing version because of your current high rate of > building? I have no clue. I haven't been keeping up with release stuff... I do know that changes are slowing down and the major issues are gone (just fixed khelpcenter and kmidi as of yesterday)... qt 2.2.2 just came out, I've got the i18n patches applied to it so I figure not much else is going to happen with it either... but heck if I know.. :) Ivan -- -------- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: khelpcenter news
On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 02:37:05AM +0100, Achim Bohnet wrote: > On Friday 17 November 2000 00:05, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > > good news...I know what's wrong... > > > > now to just find out exactly where it's breaking...I'm doing a build > > right now that I believe will fix it and thus not require a konq > > window to be open prior to opening khelpcenter... > > > > cross your fingers > > One bug less and one bug more :) From konqueror.menu > > title="Konqueror"\ > command="konquror http://www.debian.org/"; > ^ > +--- missing 'e' > > Looking at your changes I still to not get what was wrong. > kfmclient starts konqueror if needed but how dos rm Konqueror.desktop > fix khelpcenter? because konqueror should exec konqueror and not kfmclient...and a second konqueror.desktop conflicts with the one that does work... -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: khelpcenter news
> Looking at your changes I still to not get what was wrong. > kfmclient starts konqueror if needed but how dos rm Konqueror.desktop > fix khelpcenter? Ok..I know I didn't explain that well... konqueror.desktop (the real one) contains a exec of konqueror %s the Debian menu one contained the kfmclient blah blah blah...which is how it used to be for the other one... they changed the inerts of it all and now to launch it you run konqueror %s in my digging I found errors about too many arguments and after about 10 emails back and forth with the expert I was able to track it down to a duplicate .desktop file with conflicting values...KDE was taking the second one (or rather the Debian one) which caused the problem. so...what I did to solve this was 2 things...first I fixed the command line arg's in the menu file...and secondly I have the KDE menu system remove konq from the Debian sub menu...since it's already in the KDE menu there's really no point for it being in twiceit will still show up in non-KDE based menus since I'm just nuking it out of the KDE menu tree. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
ok - status - ok
Hi, Once these new pacakges finish building and I finish uploading them I want everyone to pound the heck out of them. So..that means that I want everyone who is willing to and can upgrade tomorrow afternoon to the latest packages whether that be in woody or potato. (keeping in mind that woody's can take a bit longer to propagate out)... You will know it's the latest when khelpcenter functions properly. :) So..pound the heck out of these packages...I think we have 99% of the big stuff out of the way and can now focus on the smaller items. Things like missing dependencies, wishlist items, beutification items to make KDE stand out a bit more. I want to be able to salidify the core packages soon. So, if you have wishlist items file them now (to the Debian BTS) so we have them documented and then we can start getting them done. I will also start backporting kde2 apps to potato soon too. Any of you who are packaging apps for KDE and have potato packages let me know and I'll give you access to upload them to kde.tdyc.com. Ivan -- -------- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: Ivan Moore for president!
On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 12:58:51AM -0500, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: > ...of the KDE league. Or at least a board member. According to the press > release (http://dot.kde.org/974298831/) there will be seats on the board > for core developers and I think Ivan qualifies as the provider of KDE to a > major Linux distribution. > > The key benefit of this is in my opinion is preventing our favorite > desktop from making silly mistakes in the future (like the whole licensing > debacle.) Though this would be interesting I dont' see where I fall in...they have their distribution representatives already...they only state room for core developers... But who knows...Debian should be a part of it.. Ivan -- ---- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: kde2 iso
> Here's my question: > Would it be a good idea to upload the iso image somewhere for folks to > download (I notice people keep asking to see if it's stable enough for daily > use) or would that just take away from the "testing" that would normally go > on from people who get the latest debs. I have the CD and although I use a > gui to interface with cdrecord I imagine it wouldn't be hard to create an iso > of the CD and upload it if you want to use it. Well, for all the KDE 1.x packages its definatly a good thing, but I'm also not sure how many people are using those packages still. As for the KDE 2.x packages, they are still pretty much in flux so I'm not really sure the worth of it...but, then again, that's me. :) I will host the iso's on kde.tdyc.com if there is a desire for them... I think once we get past the next couple of weeks and things slow down it would definatly be a good time for iso's... Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
*** WARNING ***
Hi all, During this upload of new KDE packages I will also be uploading all the dependant apps I rebuilt due to the upgrade of libssl. This includes the following pacakges (all base don woody sources) apache apache-ssl lib-apache-mod-ssl lynx-ssl links-ssl fetchmail-ssl openldap2 cyrus-sasl (I'll also be dropping in updated build packages for you all too soon) I have not tested them all yet ...or rather any of these actually... So if you do not wish to upgrade to these versions be prepared to hold your current packages. If you have problems with this let me know, I can go grab old potato packages and build those with the new ssl if needbe... Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: kdevelop
> I'm mainly interested in kdevelop, do you have an idea about when it'll we > be in woody? when it's functional. The kdevelop that *can* go into woody is still not quite there. > why is it in the contrib section (why not main?)? because when I set up kde.tdyc.com I didn't set it up like the Debian ftp structure is setup...I but *main* KDE packages in kde and then all extra (or contrib) apps in contrib. > klicq conflicts with licq, removing licq plugins, is this normal? > can't licq plugins depends on licq or klicq? I don't know... Most likely not in this case as the klicq package on kde.tdyc.com is ancient and compiled for potato while the licq plugins are compiled for woody...(potato == libqt1g, woody = qt2.2) > kdelibs3 doesn't conflict with kdelibs2, however i get this when installing > kdelibs2g : > >dpkg: error processing > /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs2g_4%3a1.1.2-2425-1.0_i386.deb > (--unpack): > >trying to overwrite `/usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/default', which is also in > package kdelibs3 > Is there a clean way to fix this? > it doesn't need to conflict. it's just one link which is the same for both packages. dpkg --force-overwrite Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
get them while they are hot
new files are up on kde.tdyc.com for potato users woody's were installed (for i386...sparcs are a tad behind) Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: KDE 2 installation experience
I wanted to update the status of this report by Achim... > o /etc/kde and /etc/kde2 > > Because config files are stored now in /etc/kde2 I've got > quite so unused config files below /etc/kde. Try a > > dpkg -S /etc/kde/* > > Maybe one could add a preinstall rule like > > if test ! -e /etc/kde2/$conffile && test -e /etc/kde/$conffile > then > mv /etc/kde/$configfile /etc/kde2/ > fi > > if it's easy to get a list of /etc/kde config file of a package. I haven't done a thing with this... It needs to be done with each package... > o artswrapper > > artswrapper of kdelibs should be setuid root. done > o kwrited > > kwrited from console does not update utmp (needs libtempter (sp?) > from Redhat). Therefore a 'write' does not work. IMHO there > are two better alternatives :) > > o add libtempter > or > o remove kwrited from startkde. Saves two (useless) > processes to start up: kwrited and cat the later... I was going to add libtempter but was veto'd by other Debian developers including the project leader. :) someone needs to actually hack up konsole to properly deal with the utmp stuff... I am not a c++ guy and am not sure where to even start... > o kdmrc > > /etc/kde2/kdmrc should include > > alias, telnetd, rwhod, gdm, qmailq, qmaild, qmailp, qmails > qmailr, qmaill > in it's list of user that should not be listed in login window done > o Xservers > > /etc/X11/kdm/Xservers should at least mention in the example the > > -nolisten tcp > > option. well...I just added this (if I got it right) > o reportbug > > reportbug knows about --bts tdyc|kde-debian and appends > a -debian to the Package: pseudo header. Bit out of date :) > Ivan care to submit a bug report? *just* submitted a bug against the pacakge... Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
combinded menu system...
Hi all... I've been working on the menu stuff this ...uhh..err...morning..woh...anyways... I've just fixed it so that any menu item that has a hints line = "KDE" won't end up in the Debian submenu in the KDE menu...(mouth full)...there's no need for the KDE apps to be in both the main KDE menu and the Debian submenu. This requires all KDE apps to add a hints="KDE" into their menu files...all the core KDE apps already have this. so..in doing all this I started thinking of how to integrate that Debian sub menu into the main KDE one...I'm almost positive I can do the integration in just using the Debian menu system...the only problem I see which I have yet to come up with a clean solution for is the removal of those menu items upon removal of the app... Maybe if I keep a list of the files somewhere and then I can purge them all during a update-menus (in the same sense that it is done now)... anyone have any better ideas??? Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: KDE 2 installation experience
On Sat, Nov 18, 2000 at 12:50:05PM +0100, Laurent Perrin wrote: > if you define USE_LOGIN, kwrited will use login/logout to update utmp > from TEPty.C: [...] > should be cool? yes..you would assume that... :) I tried that and it builds just fine.. but crashes left and right... Ivan -- ---- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: Segfault of kdm
> > The kdm package version is 2.0-final-5. The crash happened with release 4, > > too. > > Btw: xdm runs fine. > > The difference is that kdm has OpenGL support. well...kdm uses libqt which has OpenGL support... in this case the actual confliction is between libqt and the nvidia drivers... > > Before my conversion from SuSE to Debian I experienced the same behaviour > > in the SuSE kde2-rc3 packages, but it was gone in the final. > > I don't know if it matters, my CPU is a K6-2 and my graphics card has a TNT > > chip on it. > > > > Mine too. I think this is the problem. Are you using the Nvidia driver > from XFree86 4.01 (nv) or Nvidias' own driver (nvdriver) and their own GL > support? or a problem with X4's xlibmesa-dev package... -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: Compile farm for building kde
> and of course the posts from Ivan detailing progress on getting KDE > packaged, the thought occurred to me that it might be helpful to have a > compile farm for building KDE. Reduce the design, compile, test time by > a factor of 10 maybe. > > Is that realistic? Would it be beneficial? not really sure...A common machine or two for packagers (and/or developers) to use for building apps/packages would be good as it would give a common backend for packaging. (thus making sure all packages are built using the same development libraries and all... > Someone out there benefiting from kde must have a load of workstations > they could configure to allow a developer to do compiles on. Maybe even > have 1 dedicated machine that could install then run the packaged KDE > system & export the X display over the internet to the developers > workstation, so the developer doesn't have to even dl the results across > the net. > > (Maybe use vnc? > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/ ) > > I also recall reading that compiling sun's star office takes 10, or 10's > of hours. Maybe the farm could be used for a number of projects. probably...the problem here is that VNC'ng KDE over a 56k connect is more than a subtle death. I build locally and then test my stuff...as do most if not all other packagers...and not everyone has high speed connections. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: Potato ssl and apache
I have moved all the extra packages into a extra section...those that want the newer stuff (and ssl support) can add "extra" to their apt line. I will continue to keep those packages up to date (I'm currently building new php3/4 packages and all the libapache modules) Ivan On Sun, Nov 19, 2000 at 04:51:35PM +0200, Magnus Lassus wrote: > As Ivan asked for some input regarding the new packages that had been > included from woody. > > First of all I would like to express my thanks to Ivan for the work he > is doing as debian life would not be as easy for us who enjoy KDE2. > > Secondly the machine which I am trying this out on at the moment is by > no means a clean Potato machine as it is running XF4 and 2.4 and > obviously some other tools from Woody. Futher it has a lot of > unneccesary packages running as this is a test machine I use since I'm > giving some Linux classes. > > However, bringing major packages as parts of apache and ssl from Woody > down to Potato is by no means an unproblematic issue and at the moment I > am getting conflicts with the following packages: > sslwrap (depends on libssl09 which conflicts with libssl096) > libapache-mod-ruby (due to apache-common) > libapache-mod-auth-pam (dito) > libapache-mod-perl (dito) > php3 (dito) > > I.e. there are a number of packages depending on the versions in stock > Potato. Obviously all can be solved quite easily by either holding back > packages or getting newer from Woody. > > But my concern with is is now that if there were to arrive e.g. a > security update to apache or any other packages on hold it would be no > longer a simple daily apt upgrade to get the machine up to date and one > really need to follow the alerts and remember what one has on hold. > > These are by no means showstoppers as one should anyway follow the > alerts, but just an opinion that it might be wiser to try to stay as > close to Potato as possible and maybe leave out functionality out of KDE > that would require updates to core Potato packages. > > While in opinion mode, I'd like to express another opinion on an issue > that was discussed a while back that the dependancies on alsa had been > voted down. I am one who would vote the other way around and would be > happy to see a dependancy on alsa as I am using ALSA (from cvs) for the > sequencer support for my SB Live. > > Regards, > Magnus > _ > F:ma M Lassus > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---end quoted text--- -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: Not a bug per se
> Long story short, I recently took GNOME off my system and > went to a straight window manager, windowmaker, for when > I do run X. Now I do have some k apps installed, which > of course causes kdelibs3 etc.. to be on my system. I have > noticed that most, if not all, of my k related debs have > only one changelog (the changelog.Debian.gz one). My under- > standing is that there should be two, one for upstream and one > for the package itself, unless it is a native Debian package. *If* there are upstream changelogs. For example..the Changelog for kdelibs was last touched (or the last entry is dated) 1999-02-11. there's no point in it being there if it's useless. kdenetwork's is even worse... 1998-12-05. > Maybe not too important but I am using knode for news, and > the changelog refers to kdenetwork, so... I really have no > idea of the status of the package itself. All I can say is that I have not see (hardly) any changelog entries (todo's, news, etc..) made in a LONG time. (years)... It seems that this stuff is either being discussed across the mailing lists or via web pages somewhere. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: Not a bug per se
> Thanks for the quick response. I do want to say that I appreciate what > you and all the other package maintainers do, the message was in no way aimed > at slighting you or your work. I know you weren't... > I suppose the KDE web pages might have info on the individual packages? > I should look around there some for specifics, or maybe mailing lists? I would start at the web pages...(especially since the mailing lists are archived to the web..) :) Ivan -- ------------ Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: KDE2 + libGLU Problems
> I have a problem, since i've updated my Potato System last week. > Primary I use Gnome, but I also want to use some KDE-Applications. > My System: Debian 2.2 (all updates) >+ XFree86 4.0.1 (rebuild of Branden's debs) what version of the 4.0.1 debs??? I don't believe that the 4.0.1 debs provided libGLU until like -2 or -3...I dont' remember which... /me runs off to look at changelogs... xfree86 (4.0.1-2) unstable; urgency=low [...] * debian/control: - xlibmesa packages now *do* contain libGLU, correct erroneous info in package description [...] 4.0.1-2 or greater... Ivan -- ---- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: Qt2.2 + i18n patch and the Alt-F2 box desktop switching.
> these are surely related: after reading the changelog.Debian.gz for Qt and > the behaviour I observed it became apparent. I fixed it for myself the > Quick and Dirty way: > > replaced > /usr/lib/qt2/lib/libqt.so.2.2.2 > with the version from > libqt2.2_2%3a2.2.2-0.potato.1_i386.deb > > and Alt-F2 did not switch desktops anymore. looks so...I'll go report this to the i18n folks -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: Qt2.2 + i18n patch and the Alt-F2 box desktop switching.
Package: libqt2.2 Severity: normal This has been reported to the folks making the patch...I just want it documented in the BTS. Ivan On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 08:50:46PM +, Bart Oldeman wrote: > Hello, > > these are surely related: after reading the changelog.Debian.gz for Qt and > the behaviour I observed it became apparent. I fixed it for myself the > Quick and Dirty way: > > replaced > /usr/lib/qt2/lib/libqt.so.2.2.2 > with the version from > libqt2.2_2%3a2.2.2-0.potato.1_i386.deb > > and Alt-F2 did not switch desktops anymore. > > Bart > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---end quoted text--- -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: Not a bug per se
> You can generate your own ChangLog from CVS: > simply cd to kdenetwork/knode (or any other dir) and run > rcs2log -i 4 -R -h kde.org | fmt > myChangeLog > btw. knode has an uptodate ChangeLog I rather not do the rcs2log ..but your right about knode's changelog...along with alot of the other programs..they are just in the sublevels... I'm starting to add those in as I do builds on packages along with any odds and ends documentation that may exist in those subdirs. Ivan -- ---- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: kppp depending on ppp
> kppp depends on ppp. As task-kdenetworking depends on kppp it is impossible to > select task-kdenetworking without installing ppp. > > Maybe it would be enough that kppp only suggests ppp (or task-kdenetworking > suggesting kppp)? (NOTE: please dont' take this personally...you are one of *MANY* who hold this same opinion about the tasks for KDE...and you are not complaining but rather asking so I'm not even near upset about this...) Ok...The ONLY purpose I have for the tasks for KDE is to create fake packages that make up each of the individual kde* upstream packages. task-kdenetwork = kdenetwork task-kdeadmin = kdeadmin etc... If I keep taking out subpackages because they depend on other packages not found in the main packages then I'm going to end up with a bunch of tasks that only suggest other packages. Where does one draw the line? If I make all the sub task-* packages suggests then task-kde would be pretty pointless... as it is now, there is no way for one to just do a apt-get install task-kde and get EVERY KDE package... there is no real clean way to handle tasks at the moment and the current task packages sucks I know..but... my opinion is that yea..so what if a apt-get install task-kde installs ppp, or installs something else you don't want (I can understand the gripes about a ftp server being installed)...don't use apt-get install for install tasks. use dselect, console-apt, or one of the other programs that are coming out. fine tune you install. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: kppp depending on ppp
> > If I keep taking out subpackages because they depend on other packages not > > found in the main packages then I'm going to end up with a bunch of > > tasks that only suggest other packages. > > > > Where does one draw the line? If I make all the sub task-* packages > > suggests > > then task-kde would be pretty pointless... > > Maybe ppp - its not KDE. yes, but kppp is. they are one in the same. > Thats what I do :-). > > I understand your point, I only asked because this is the one question of our > students installing kde2. They are connected to a ethernet-lan and don't need > ppp. Now selecting task-kde they are asked installing ppp, too, and they get > uncertain. I undestand your queries as well... I just don't want 50 million different task packages...the only goal I have for the tasks I've created is to provide an easy way to install all the apps that were, at one time, a single app and have since been broken down. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: kppp depending on ppp
> Allowing kppp to be installed without ppp seems wrong to me. > > However, if kppp comes with task-kdenetworking, and we have no choice > there, that might be bad, too. Would it be possible to make > task-kdenetworking suggest kppp and not bring it along on its' own? I could, but that brings me back to the reason I have the task packages in the first place. I really do not want to modify existing packages unless there is a security reason... The goal of these tasks are to provide what upstream provides as a whole. If we want more customizable tasks then that should/could be done seperatly... tasks are ugly as it is... apt doesn't recognize recommends/suggests, dselect doesn't handle recommends properly, plus the bloat of it all. What makes a task-kdenetwork package for example? some would say they don't what knode, or kit, or kppp, or ksirc, or a combination of them. we could have potentiall several task-kde-* packages...the question really is what do we put in them? How many of them do we have, how pissed off are the developers, mirror admins, etc... going to get because of the bloat. as it is, task-kdenetwork is not even a DEPEND. nor is task-kdemultimedia or task-kdeadmin...all 3 are recommends (in task-kde). Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
updates/fixes/etc...
Hi, Ok...so...a full sweep of packages (- kde-i18n) have been uploaded to woody (and installed) - (and currently being built/uploaded for potato). These do alot of things: Documentation included properly (Readme's, changelogs, etc...) kdm no longer creates a /.kde directory (Closes: #77509) /usr/share/applnk/debian_menu moved to /var/lib/kde (Closes: #77508) menu generation upstream bug fix debian menu removes any menu item with a KDE hint (ie, no duplication) Adding a provides for x-window-manager tons of shlibs fixes lintian override files added (for next lintian release) fixing up build-depends for ports without xlibs ton of pre/post inst/rm script work Changed dependency on menu from depends to a recommends. fixing pathing for cgi-bin dir so that khelpcenter can find htdig's htsearch upstream kmail fixes (Closes: #77340) Removing /etc/kde2/korganizerrc - upstream workaround fix (Closes: #77256, #7) Getting rid of koffice-common Creating a koshell package (koffice is stuck in incoming until this is manually added) I also did some major reworking of the build process for the packages. Ivan -- -------- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
kde1 anyone
is there a big need for kde1 debs anymore? I'm about to setup a couple potato boxes (1 x86 and 1 sparc..sparc being a buildd) to start doing all my kde builds with...and wanted to find out if I need to do updated kde1 debs while I'm at it... -- -------- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: question about my apt-get..
it's because my stupid shlibs for qt were brokt and the versions are messed up. It will be fixed tomorrow. Ivan On Tue, Nov 21, 2000 at 05:58:15PM -0800, Rob Walker wrote: > > after an apt-get update, the apt-get dist-upgrade shows the following: > > > biffhero-laptop:~# apt-get dist-upgrade > Reading Package Lists... Done > Building Dependency Tree... Done > Calculating Upgrade... Done > The following packages will be REMOVED: > kdebase konqueror > The following packages have been kept back > abbrowser alsa-modules-2.2.17 kabalone kasteroids kdebase-libs kdelibs3 kdm > kernel-headers-2.2.17 kernel-image-2.2.17 kmahjongg kmines konquest konsole > korganizer kpat kpoker snort > 33 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 2 to remove and 17 not upgraded. > 1 packages not fully installed or removed. > Need to get 34.3MB of archives. After unpacking 9843kB will be freed. > Do you want to continue? [Y/n] > > I understand why the kernel-stuff was held back, I put it on hold, but > not the kde stuff. Also, why the kde stuff removal? > > Needless to say, I didn't continue. > > rob > > ps. biffhero-laptop:~# cat /etc/debian_version > woody > biffhero-laptop:~# > > > -- > Good, Fast, Cheap: Pick any two. (RFC 1925) > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---end quoted text--- -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: qt-designer
On Wed, Nov 22, 2000 at 07:17:52PM +0100, Armin Joellenbeck wrote: > Hello, > > I miss the QT designer in the kde2 potato debs at kde.tdyc.com. Is there > any reason to exclude it from potato while including it in woody. > > Several weeks ago it was there. Might be it is such trivial thing like > renaming of the package. > > Any hints are welcome. that was probably back before qt 2.2.2 came out...I did a clean of some things and that probably went along with the old stuff...I haven't *yet* had a chance to build the new version. Ivan -- ---- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: qt-designer
> > that was probably back before qt 2.2.2 came out...I did a clean of some > > things and that probably went along with the old stuff...I haven't *yet* > > had a chance to build the new version. > > > > Ivan > > > > Hello Ivan, > > Thank you very much. I am still hoping you will find time for it. it's building right now. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: qt-designer
> > it's building right now. > > > > Ivan > > Ivan, do you like pizza? Are you near a Pizza Hut? heck yea...I'm not sure where the closest pizza hut is tho...I think there is one in Grand Junction somewhere (about 45 mins from here)...I'm in the middle of BFE. :) -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: Dependency issues
Hi, Yes, with todays dinstall run for woody it should be about 99% happy... it seems I have 1 conflict out there (between kdebase-doc and konsole) but it's minor and easy to fix (dpkg --force-overwrite -i konsole). (make sure your mirror is up to date...you should get a new libqt2.2 package (2.2.2-5)...) Ivan On Wed, Nov 22, 2000 at 06:27:47PM -0500, Casey Henderson wrote: > Hi, > I recently (i.e., two days ago) did an "apt-get -d upgrade" on my > woody box to download the newest upgrades. It said that 58 packages > were upgraded, and 66 were held back (all of which were kde packages). > When I installed the downloaded packages, kdebase and konqueror were > removed!! Everything had been running fine, with regular upgrades > without problems. I was able to manually download and reinstall > kdebase and konqueror, but I was wondering if this problem has been > fixed so that I don't screw up my system the next time I do an upgrade. > Thanks. > > Casey > > -- > Casey Henderson > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.cs.umaine.edu/~hender97/ > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---end quoted text--- -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: qt-designer
On Wed, Nov 22, 2000 at 08:22:21PM -0600, Bud Rogers wrote: > On Wednesday 22 November 2000 18:46, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > > > heck yea...I'm not sure where the closest pizza hut is tho...I think > > there is one in Grand Junction somewhere (about 45 mins from > > here)...I'm in the middle of BFE. :) > > BFE? > heh... Parachute Colorado. 1/2 way between Glenwoody Springs and Grand Junction. Out int he middle of nowhere. :) -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: KDE2: Could not create view for text/html, problem still there
> I still have the "Could not create view for text/html" error in > Konqueror. I just updated my box to the latest kde2 update > (2.0-final-0.potato.7) but the problem still persist. The funny thing > though is if I start konqueror from the command line it works fine it > is only happening when I launch it from the menu or panel. > Any ideas? try kbuildsycoca if no go them rm -rf /usr/share/applnk/debian_menu try again and what versions of kdelibs3 are you running? ummm Ivan -- -------- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
new uploads and whatnot
hi, ok..so I've got new stuff waiting to be uploaded for potato...including a new kdebase and libs. (oh..and a qt-designer) I just ran out of time and bandwidth today to do it..so hopefully it'll get uploaded sometime tomorrow. (Most likely end up just sitting in the incoming dir until after thanksgiving tho... (ftp://kde.tdyc.com/pub/kde/debian/dists/potato/kde2/incoming) Also, this is where I sit with my plans for the next couple weeks. Sometime in the next week (I forget the date and things can change) KDE 2.0.1 is going to get released...we are about 99% current with that version (except for the kde-i18n-* packages) so there won't be much change for those of you who keep current with my packages...I'm about due to build new kde-i18n packages btw.I was way off in my guestimation for 2.1... the guestimation (as last I understood it) was a hopeful beta release mid to late december (before christmas) for the sole purpose of mass exposuer and bug finding so that they can have a stable release in january sometime... Again...that's not firm, just based off of memory from discussions on the kde-* mailing lists... :) so...for my part in all of this I now have 1 - potato i386 box 1 - potato sparc box 1 - potato alpha box 1 - woody i386 box and after I'm done with the potato builds the sparc will get updated again... I am going to start from scratch and do clean builds (hopefully) of kde 1.1.2 and contrib apps that I feel like rebuilding. :) Then I'm going to move onto KDE 2.x and then contrib apps porting all woody packages (that I know of) to potato along the way. When I'm doing I'm going to have a new archive design. The main reason for this is to *break* everyone who do not follow this list or the web site. :) main - kde 2.x core apps and *required* non-kde apps qt1apps - contrib apps that require qt1 optional - optional packages such as crypto modules *required* non-kde apps are those that I either had to package by hand or grab updated versions from woody to fulfill build requirements...ie, these will be non kde apps that are not found in potato (or are newer than what's in potato) All apps built against QT 2.2.x will go into the "main" section as they are (or should be ) DFSG and also to match up with Debian main. qt1apps will contain all packages that require QT1 (ie...pretty much what's in the current contrib and kde sections currently. optional will be what has started out as "extra". These will be things like libssl096, the *-crypto* packages along with updated versions of ssh and other stuff that some won't want by default. sooo...I will give everyone a heads up before I make these changes (it will be after I get the new kde1 packages rebuilt. I have alot of work to do on those packages so that those migrating in the future from KDE 1 to KDE 2 will have a nice upgrade... Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: Problem with KSpread
I can. Or rather I see the symptoms... It's gotta be the i18n patches I applied... On Thu, Nov 23, 2000 at 11:42:15AM +0200, Hasso Tepper wrote: > http://lists.kde.org/?l=koffice&m=97489859500211&w=2 > > This problem is related with Debian packages. I compiled fresh KDE_2_0_BRANCH > from scartch yesterday evening and there is no problem. So, problem exist only > with Debian packages ... :( > > Anyone can confirm this? > > regards, > > Hasso > > -- > Hasso Tepper > KDE Estonian Team > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---end quoted text--- -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: Concurrent installation of kde1 and kde2
I'm sorry, but this won't happen. At least not by me. The #1 priority for me in packaging KDE for Debian is to stick to policy (or as close as possible)...with that there's no (easy) way to allow for both versions to coexist. (the libs can and do...the binaries are the problem)... you can only have 1 /usr/bin/kdm for example. You are more than welcome to download the source and modify the install path to put KDE1 under /usr/local or /opt, but I won't do that with my packages. I understand your concerns. Currently you can intermingle kde1 and kde2 to a certain degree...(there has to be some incompatabilities) for example..you can run kmail from kde2 on kde1 (you would just not be able to have kdenetwork from kde1 installed or you would have to force the installation of kmail) now...what I can and might do is break up the kde1 packages to somewhat match what I've done for kde2 which would make it even easier to intermingle... Ivan On Thu, Nov 23, 2000 at 11:21:49AM +0100, Jan Schier wrote: > Dear Ivan, > > I would like to ask for one thing, which AFAIK has not yet been mentioned > here: I would find it very nice if there were an option that the > installation of kde2 does not remove the installation of kde1. > > I have tried the very first version of kde2 and while it was quite nice, > there was a number of small annoyances that made me going back to kde1 > (slower startup time, it was impossible to turn-off the login and logout > sounds, no key shortcuts for switching between different international > keyboards, occassional crashes of various utilities, etc.) > > I would very much like to play with it and to help by reporting bugs, but > for normal work I still prefare kde1 and I am afraid of wiping it from my > computer. > > Thanks and sorry for bothering you. > > Regards, > > Jan > > -- > Jan Schier > KU Leuven ESAT/SISTA > tel. +32-16-321817 > > On leave from > Inst. of Information Theory & Automation > (UTIA AV CR) > Prague, Czech Republic > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---end quoted text--- -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: Fwd: Re: Problem with KSpread from KDE 2.0 branch
fyi: package is building... (along with new kde-i18n-* packages) On Thu, Nov 23, 2000 at 01:53:52PM +0200, Hasso Tepper wrote: > > Laurent Montel wrote: > > for me copy/paste works. > > What is the problem ? > > I'm very sorry. > This problem was a problem to happen with a patch of > Japan KDE Users' Group > (koffice-2.0-kspread-i18n-20001026.diff). > It was a cause that the 487th line of kspread_cell.cc was > transferred to > "const char *p=m_strText.utf8();" > from > "const char *p=m_strText.latin1();" > with this patch. > This problem happens so that this patch is applied in a > Debian package. -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: Qt compile options (-fno-exceptions?)
> A while ago I read a thread on dot.kde.org > (http://dot.kde.org/971098890/971103495/971105912/971161255), stating that > in order to obtain good performance with KDE2 one had to compile qt with > the option -fno-exception added to the CXXFLAGS. And then there was > someone stating that this would essentially disable error handling - maybe > not a good idea. Do KDE2 applications or libraries use exceptions? > > I didn't find an answer to this on the various mailing lists and was > wondering how Ivan's Potato packages were built. If they are built without > -fno-exceptions, should I consider recompiling my own, given the "huge > performance boost" people were talking about? What do I risk? > The thread I cited is _old_ (before KDE2.0 final). Maybe all of this isn't > an issue anymore? QT packages (both potato and woody) are compiled without exceptions. I started doing this when it was first suggested (came across the KDE packagers mailing list). Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: Getting debs w/o apt-get
> Not knowing much about apt-get and not having a networked debian computer, > I am having a bit of trouble getting the deb files. > > Is there anywhere that I can download them by http or ftp? > Which files would I need to install KDE on a potato box? ftp://kde.tdyc.com/ or http://kde.tdyc.com/debian as for what files...it really depends... you *will* need: libmng_*deb liblcms_*deb libqt2.2_*deb kdelibs3_*deb take a look through the file trees... the debian/dists/potato/kde2/binary-i386/* is pretty much core kde and required files. It's just which ones you want. Ivan -- ------------ Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
disk space ...
Hi, This is mainly pointed at KDE 1 stuff but will eventually affect KDE 2... I'm going to need to do some disk space jumbling and in order to do that I will need to nuke the ftp dir. So...as I don't have another machine with disk space and bandwidth I'm hoping one of the folks doing mirrors of the site would be willing to make sure they have a fresh and up to date mirror at the time I do this *and* a complete one *and* then hold it during my cleanup until I can pull the files back down from that mirro... Ivan -- -------- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: disk space ...
> My mirror ( ftp://ftp.aart.ch/mirror/kde.tdyc.com/ ) only mirrors i386, > and is behind a 256 kbit line in europe. But if you don't find anyone else, > I would be willing to mirror all the other archs and let you mirror the > files back. Just tell me! I think I'll be ok, I got another box (that I didn't know about) that I can mirror to. And it sits pretty much right next to the other one... Ivan -- -------- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
status of kde1 - > kde2 interop
so I've started rebuilding the kde1 packages...and while I do this I'm verify all the conflicts and whatnot...the kdelibs2g vs kdelibs3 has been fixed in CVS and fixed packages will be showing up soon. kdelibs2g-dev and kdelibs3 cannot co-exist due to 4 .la files. I didn't pay too much attention so I'm not sure how important those files are or if there is anything I can do about them. I'll take a look again later. kdesupport0g will no longer contain the mimelib stuff. (use kde2's mimelib stuff instead)...thus allowing kdesupport0g and libmime both to be installed at the same time. that's it so far...I haven't gotten to kdebase yet... -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: status of kde1 - > kde2 interop
> Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > > kdelibs2g-dev and kdelibs3 cannot co-exist due to 4 .la files. I didn't > > pay too much attention so I'm not sure how important those files are or > > if there is anything I can do about them. I'll take a look again later. > > > > you mean kdelibs3-dev, not kdelibs3, don't you? anyway ... no, I meant kdelibs3 and kdelibs2g-dev cannot co-exist. > having mulitiple versions of the same shared library causes trouble > when compiling in general. ld.so creates a symlink to the newest version, > from which the run-time-link version is determined at build-link time: correct..you will not be able to have both -dev packages installed at the same time. -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: Compiling KDE2 for powerpc
> g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I/usr/include/kde -I/usr/lib/qt2/include > -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/opt/kde2/include/kde -O2 -fno-exceptions > -fno-check-new > -Wall -pedantic -W -Wpointer-arith -Wmissing-prototypes -Wwrite-strings > -Wno-long-long -fno-builtin -DQT_CLEAN_NAMESPACE -DQT_NO_COMPAT > -DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -c libkonq_la_closure.cc -fPIC -DPIC -o > .libs/libkonq_la_closure.o libtool: link: warning: library > `/opt/kde2/lib/libkparts.la' was moved. libtool: link: warning: library > `/opt/kde2/lib/libkparts.la' was moved. libtool: link: cannot find the library > `/usr/lib/libkfile.la' make[2]: *** [libkonq.la.closure] Error 1 > kdelibs3: /usr/lib/libkfile.la > Any one have any ideas about how to get past this? > > > A note, I had to reinstall kde 1.1.2 related packages to get back my "normal" > desktop. The above message was "recreated" by extracting kdelibs3 to /opt/kde2 > (and getting rid of the ./usr portion of the path created). The kdelibs3 > packages I am now uploading "install" to the normal places. h... add /opt/kde2/lib to /etc/ld.so.conf and re-run ldconfig that should work. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: html online help
> Is there an general way to treat the html online help for kde applications? I > notice konquerers onlinehelp does not work, and my kvoctrain wants to install > them to kde_htmldir = $(prefix)/share/doc/HTML instead of > /share/doc/kvoctrain/html/ (where it belongs, right?). NOTE: HTML docs for KDE go into /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML not /usr/share/doc/HTML the HTML dir belongs to another Debian app (info I think). > Furthermore it complains on the stdout: > invoking HTML help is deprecated! use docbook and invokeHelp! > when I click on Help. Is this a kde thing or just upstream? KDE has moved away from html for their help stuff..and are using docbook. So, it's more that kvoctrain has not moved to this format yet. > Do you write manpages for these gui apps? Kvoctrain does not have one yet. no I don't. I use the undocumented man page (dh_undocumented) Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: defaults for every kde package?
fyi..this looks like it came out of kde-admin (admin/acinclude) > I wanted to attach something, sorry: > > if test -z "$kde_htmldir"; then > kde_htmldir='$(prefix)/share/doc/HTML' > fi needs to be $(prefix)/share/doc/kde/HTML > if test -z "$kde_cgidir"; then > kde_cgidir='$(exec_prefix)/cgi-bin' > fi needs to be /usr/lib/cgi-bin > if test -z "$kde_confdir"; then > kde_confdir='$(prefix)/share/config' > fi needs to be /etc/kde2 Adding the debianrules script to your debian/ subdir and then adding this to your rules script would take care of most of this for you (as long as the app was written correctly) build: build-stamp -include debian/debiandirs debian/debiandirs: debian/debianrules perl -w debian/debianrules echodirs > debian/debiandirs build-stamp: dh_testdir all this does is export all the possible variables into your build environment. The debianrules script can be found in kdelibs/admin or in the kde-admin package (in cvs). Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: status of kde1 - > kde2 interop
> > > you mean kdelibs3-dev, not kdelibs3, don't you? anyway ... > > > > no, I meant kdelibs3 and kdelibs2g-dev cannot co-exist. > > > ok - sorry then. i thought, that .la files are in -dev packages in general. > i have to look a bit closer at it ... not in KDE2 world. > > correct..you will not be able to have both -dev packages installed at > > the same time. > > > exactly. and this sucks really big time. there are simply too many > programs, which have not been ported to kde2 already. that's why i > suggested to use the alternatives system. > the current state of having to uninstall the one package to be able to > install the other one is simply too copious. i know, that this is > the situation for quite a lot of -dev packages - nevertheless it's > suboptimal. what? you CAN install KDE 1 apps on top of KDE2 with NO problems. you just can't have KDE2 installed and have the KDE 1 development files install cleanly. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: kde2 assorted snags
> Here are my problems that I have still on my kde install. > > 1. Unable to convince kde to use MY wav file at startup.. It is listed > under the 'look & feel system notifications' and my wav file IS selected, > yet I hear the kde-startup.wav.. Finally, I moved the default wav to my > home directory, and instead of finally hearing MY wav file, I get nothing > at all... So, how does one get a personalized wav to work at startup? I personally cannot say as I have not messed with this...hopefully someone else here has done so or can confirm a bug... > 2. I decided on six desktops. each has a unique picture background. I > can start kde and toggle them all, they work right up until I start a > program. Now, if I start a program on desktop 6 and click on desktop 1, > I see desktop 6 background picture. How does one control this? I would > like this to stop crashing, or work like it's supposed to. this is very strange...it actually sounds like a bug (tho I have not tried to confirm this). you might want to submit a bug report for this. > 3. I upgraded to kde2 from kde1.x.. debian does make it pretty easy to > upgrade I have to admit. I had tkseti ([EMAIL PROTECTED] front end) in my > autostart folder. It worked wonderfully. But since installing the kde2, > the autostart has never worked. I decided perhaps it must be a problem > with the upgrade, so I destroyed the old links and made brand new ones, > and put them into the autostart folder. Still no tkseti on startup.. > What am I missing here? The kde doc was followed to the letter. this is strange as my autostart does work. There are some "default" differences with this between kde1 and kde2. (kde1 has a autostart folder on the desktop whereas kde2 does not). > So far, I think I have downloaded about 150-200mb of kde updates, Will > one of these eventually fix these buggers, or do I need to get > MANUAL and do it? Any help would be greatly appreciated. that's all? :) this is the first time anyone has reported these problems. Allow others on this list to confirm these problems or possibly point out how to solve them. > Also, is there a kde-tweek faq around where one can simply find and > manualy configure kde programs? That might be best. I know I couldn't > get the kde cdplay to run until I found that config file and changed > my dev from /dev/scd1 to /dev/hdd :| I'm not sure...there is still a lot of work going on in the documentation arena for KDE 2.0. But I'm hoping someone here can let us know so that I can start adding this information to the packages. :) Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: kde2 assorted snags
> Also, is there a kde-tweek faq around where one can simply find and > manualy configure kde programs? That might be best. I know I couldn't > get the kde cdplay to run until I found that config file and changed > my dev from /dev/scd1 to /dev/hdd :| http://www.kde.org/documentation/index.html -- -------- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
kde 2.0.1 vs 2.1
Hi all, There's going to be a big split between potato and woody soon. After KDE 2.0.1 is released I'm going to update woody to KDE 2.1 (which will be in beta on the 18th of December if they keep on schedule). I'm doing this for a couple reasons: 1: The current guestimates for woody's release is sometime in Feb. (tho I don't think anyone is sure yet of anything) 2: The current guestimates for KDE 2.1's release is in January/Feb. 3: Need to start helping with bug finding/squashing/testing/tweaking so that 2.1's release is smooth. I'm not planning on doing this for potato as potato is supposed to be stable. :) I may however put out some testing debs in another location once I get a feel for the stability of it all... Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: html online help
> >Do you write manpages for these gui apps? Kvoctrain does not have one yet. > > The documentation for KDE applications is written in docbook format. I guess > that the documentation for kvoctrain should be written by the developper > himself or anybody who volunteers for that. In order to generate the HTML > files the person who writes the documentation in docbook has to run > "kdb2html". "kdb2html" is an application which comes with kdebase and which > needs jade and some sgml packages these are also dependencies of the kdelibs3-dev pacakge so if you have kdelibs3-dev installed you should have the required sgml/docbook/jade packages installed as well. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
apt-get breakage
Hi, Tomorrow (November 28th GMT-7) I will be wiping the files out of kde.tdyc.com. I'm going to implement the new file structure so after tomorrow you will have to hack your apt sources file. Also at this time all the old contrib files and kde1 packages will be removed. (I'm backing them up first). I have started builds on new packages and those will be showing up as they are created. These packages will be for Alpha, Sparc, and I386. I'm also working hard to remove any of the co-existance problems. Woody's packages already have them and as soon as I get the builds done so will potatos. for those of you using woody and want to help test bleeding edge I'll be adding in a special section for those who want KDE 2.1 snapshots. My home pc is currently running it. As I have yet to decided for sure when I'm going to upload it to woody I figure I'll put it up somewhere for people to play/test. I'll re-announce the apt lines when I'm done. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: Bug#77578: Alt-F2 and different background on multiple desktops problems.
> > well, I'm not going to remove the patch because of this *unless* it doesn't > > get fixed soon. The problem is caused by the patch...whether or not it's > > a bug in KDE or QT... KDE programmers have it working without the patch so > > if we want the XIM support then someone needs to find a fix for the KDE > > stuff. > > It's a bit of a catch-22 here. Without XIM it's useless for Japanese > people and with XIM we've got all these annoyances. Until it's sorted out > (ideally the patches are merged upstream so the main KDE developers > also get to deal with them) it's at least possible to have alternative qt > debs without the patches applied. I could easily build and provide those. > Say libqt2.2-jp and libqt2.2-nojp where both provide libqt2.2 or something > like that; it's cumbersome but possible. you can't provide a versioned qt. dpkg doesn't support it. > > What I do know: > > > > This DID work with the QT patch for 2.2.1. with the SAME KDE source code. > > Not for me and some others. The changelog corresponds exactly to the times > ALT-F2 worked properly or not, from 2.2.1-8 onwards as those were the ones > I've used (skipped a few, but anyways). that version was not out long enough for anyone to verify anything. It was the last version before 2.2.2 came out. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: Bug#77578: Alt-F2 and different background on multiple desktops problems.
> > you can't provide a versioned qt. dpkg doesn't support it. > > OK, a misunderstanding here. Of course one can always install a custom qt. correct > > that version was not out long enough for anyone to verify anything. It was > > the last version before 2.2.2 came out. > > No: see changelog reversed: yes, I know because I tested it myself and it did work. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: Bug#77578: Alt-F2 and different background on multiple desktops problems.
> OK then we were talking about different versions here: > I thought with _that version_ you meant 2.2.1-8. But now I see you > actually meant 2.2.1-11 and that's fair enough since there were only two > days between 2.2.1-11 and 2.2.2. either way it doesn't matter anyways... the current version does not work. we can't go back. I also think it's wronge to drop XIM support just to fix something that's annoying. But, I will if it doesn't get fixed with the 2.0.1 release of KDE. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: apt-get breakage
On Mon, Nov 27, 2000 at 02:21:20PM -0500, Dale P. Smith wrote: > Are you going to separate the kde-crypto stuff from the other stuff in > extra? the crypto stuff is the sole reason for extra...it is the reason for the other packages in there as the crypto packages rewquired a newer version of libssl witch conflicted with those packages. > an apt-get upgrade wants to upgrade these packages: > > apache-dev php3-snmp php3-pgsql php3-mysql php3-gd php3 apache > apache-common apache-doc php3-doc > > Do I *really* want to upgrade all those when I'm just looking for kde2 > stuff? you don't have to upgrade them..hold them. your choice. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
DOWNTIME NOTICE ***
Hi, sometime in the next 4-6 hours I will be taking down kde.tdyc.com (web/ftp). It will be down for up to 48 hours. During this time I will be making backups, moving data to another server so that I can re-build the main box. I will be configuring the new layout, dropping in new files that I've been building, and then after it's all done it will come back up. So please bare with me while I get this needed work done. I may even end up with the archive on it's own box...not sure yet. Ivan -- -------- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: kde2 + xfree4.0.1 + nvidia's drivers
> Being a user (and no developper) that is having problems with the new > kde2 I hope, that this is the right address I send my calls for help to. > Please be nice to me, if this list is dedicated to other issues. this list is for all Debian KDE issues...whether user or developer. > I am currently using kde2 (2.0-final-12), under Xfree4.0 > (XFree86-4.0.1-8) and since I have an asus-v6600 grafixcard i use > nVidia's drivers (both kernel- and GLX-modules 0.9_5) to have good > openGL-support. > > Starting the kdm results into a Segmentation fault: > this is, what the gdb outputs: [...] > obviously the nVidia-modules are somehow involved in this (libGL.so.1 + > libGLcore.so.1) and I would like to blame them, but: > X starts fine > xdm starts fine (though very slow) > kde2 can be started, after the Xserver is up (pE: start xdm -> login -> > kill twm (to avoid double wm's) -> type "kde2" into a console ==> kde2 > starts) > > So I might think that the bug is somewhere in kdm or maybe in the > ld-linux.so.2 > any hints ? there has been problems with nvidia support for a while...and with the invent of X4 it's increased. X4's GL support is still incomplete/buggy and unfortunatly that is all I have to build against for GL support. This will change as X smooths out and as other apps catch up. I'm not saying 100% that this is X4's problem but rather that I've seen other problems and have had heard that X4's xlibmesa stuff is still being tweaked. I'm almost 100% sure it's an incompatability between xlibmesa and the nvidia's gl support. your best bet is to stay clear of kdm (since you say kde works fine once your in) until this gets worked out. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: Viewing web page in Konqueror killed KDE session
> I cannot certify this, the page renders well and doesn't crash konqueror > 2.0-final-5 on my woody system. there are quite a few diff's between final-5 and final-12/13 > If konqueror is stable on most other pages. Probably, you should look at > http://bugs.kde.org and file a bug if "The Register" is not listed. but this is a very good rule of thumb... Ivan -- ---- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
kde 2.0.1
Hi, If there is someone interested in creating m68k potato packages of the upcoming KDE 2.0.1 please contact me. It would be nice to have all available archs (that KDE builds on) ready to go when it's officially released. Currently we have the following being built: i386 sparc powerpc I only know of m68k working for potato...if there are any other archs that do work and someone's willing to create packages please contact me and I will get you access to the software. Ivan -- -------- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Maint...update
Hi all, ok...I'm not quite done but I wanted to update a few things and let them float around while I do stuff on the other servers... kde.tdyc.com is it's own box now...YEA...for as long as my friend continues to work there...so yes..at any moment the box could disappear. :( anyways...so it's not affected by anything else anymore...I need to update the kernel (building currently) and do some other things which will happen later this evening..but it's there...along with a few new updates for potato i386. The APT format HAS changed. :) deb http://kde.tdyc.com potato main qt1apps optional crypto main = kde 2 + kde2 based apps qt1apps = qt1 based apps and kde 1.1.2 crypto = kdebase-crypto and kdelibs-crypto ... + libssl096 (pretty much it) optional = updated packages (from woody) such as apache and any ssl based app (all compiled against libssl096). Not necessary (or at least shouldn't be..but not tested) that format is not going to change. I'm still doing builds/uploads of kde1 stuff... Ivan p.s. I'll update the web page soon.. :) -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: rsync mirror ?
> I just would like to know if there is a rsync mirror of kde.tdyc.com somewhere > so that I may be able to have a local mirror of it on some of our servers. > > If rsync is not the good way to mirror it, what are your advices guys ? I'm lazy... :) if someone sends me instructions for setting up a rsync server I'll do so with kde.tdyc.com. Ivan -- -------- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: need help: libkssl - shlibs problem
> dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: unable to find dependency information for shared > library libkssl (soname 2, path /usr/lib/libkssl.so.2, dependency fields > Depends) > > What I am doing wrong? > absolutely nothing. libkssl are setup as alternatives because the real one links against libssl which would mean that kdelibs would have to go into non-us...sooobut if libkssl is not there it causes problems...so I build the stock kdelibs package without ssl support (thus creating dummy libkssl files) and I provide libkssl as an alternative...I then create a kdelibs crypto package which only provides alternatives for libkssl that are linked against libssl thus allowing a user drop in SSL suppport. what you have to do as a packager is make sure that since your app links to libkssl that you add in a sugests for kdelibs3-crypto and kdebase-crypto. (has to be a suggests as they are non-us). Ivan -- ------------ Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: need help: libkssl - shlibs problem
> > what you have to do as a packager is make sure that since your app links > > to libkssl that you add in a sugests for kdelibs3-crypto and > > kdebase-crypto. (has to be a suggests as they are non-us). > > Hmmm, but I don't need libkssl, libkssl-nossl or libkssl-ssl to build my > package. I have installed kdelibs3-crypto and kdebase-crypto for konqueror > only. > It would be curious if I have to add in a suggests for kdelibs3-crypto and > kdebase-crypto when my package doesn't need them and it's not non-us. well, for some reason it is linking to libkssl which means it either does or is going to support ssl in some fashion or another...either that or the someone hosed something. You don't have to put in the suggests...if you say it doesn't need ssl support then don't put it in...apps will work fine with the dummy kssl files. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: A couple of problems - kpackage/woody
> 1. > For a while now (about a month) Kpackage has stopped working. Any > attempt to Uninstall or Purge a package merely shows a requestor with > "Kprocess failure". I see nothing in .xsesion-errors to give me any > clues as to why it fails, except the usual unable to open a nonexistent > library, but nearly every app causes that error. I keep upgrading my > local Debian KDE as I see new packages uploaded to Debian, but as yet > Kpackage remains broken. Have you submitted a bug on this? > Also, Kpackage seems to have a real problem reading > /var/lib/dpkg/available, it mangles up the file while importing and the > package list becomes unusable within Kpackage. I thought > /var/lib/dpkg/available would be usable. I don't use kpackage so I have no clue...in the past when testing it worked fine for me against avail..but again, I don't use it so I haven't read up or asked q's to find out what's right and what's not. > 2. > Of less importance, in the Look and Feel - System Notifications - The > KDE Window Manager, it appears I can configure sounds for things like > window resizing, minimize, maximize etc etc (and they work), but when I > add a sound to "Virtual Desktop One is Selected" (or desktop 2, 3 or 4 > etc) the sound never plays when changing desktops. However it does work > when "tested" within the Look and Feel configuration window. this has been discussed...not sure if anyone has submitted a bug on this. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: A couple of problems - kpackage/woody
> > Have you submitted a bug on this? > > No, I don't know how to. I really don't know that much about Debian > procedure. I joined this list cause I miss the information I used to get > from the old kde.tdyc.com lists you use to have. Load up kpackage...click on Help at the top...and then click on Report Bug.. fill out the information and click submit...(you may have to configure your email from the button provided) Ivan -- -------- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: update/upgrade
> I wonder if I need to change my source for kde2? I'm getting an error for > kde and it looks like the server is up. BTW, I wonder if I am missing any > important sources? read back in the archive for debian-kde and you'll find the answer to your question. -- ------------ Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: update/upgrade
> > Yesterday the structure of the files was changed. Here is the interesting > > part of Ivan's yesterday mail : > > > > deb http://kde.tdyc.com potato main qt1apps optional crypto > > No access to that link from here. maybe your dns is still behind... -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: Maint...update
> I don't have any sources.list lines which have tdyc.com in them. Do I > need to put them in there? Since kde is a part of potato now, won't > your changes be put up there too? I would be glad to put this line > in, if it is needed and I understand its' need. I think you mean kde is a part of woody...not potato. kde.tdyc.com apt lines are only for potato (currently)...woody updates go directly into woody. > Ivan> p.s. I'll update the web page soon.. :) > > web page? oh, now I see the apt line that I should have been using. > What has been happening as of late? a lot of sound and fury, > signifying nothing? huh? -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: Maint...update
> biffhero-laptop:~# cat /etc/debian_version > woody > biffhero-laptop:~# > > > ok, I was confused. tis ok. :) all the tdyc.com stuff refers to potato and probably KDE 2.1 staging for woody. Ivan -- ------------ Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: kivio missing?
> Is the kivio package missing or is something wrong with my apt config here? > Nobody else seems to be complaining about it. The koshell package has this > as a dependancy. Thanks. umm...for potato it's missing...I knew I forgot something... -- -------- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: kivio missing?
> > Is the kivio package missing or is something wrong with my apt config here? > > Nobody else seems to be complaining about it. The koshell package has this > > as a dependancy. Thanks. > > umm...for potato it's missing...I knew I forgot something... > side note...koshell doesn't depend on it...just recommends it...the task suggests it, and koshell recommends it. so a apt-get install koshell will work, but dselect will force it. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: kivio missing?
> > umm...for potato it's missing...I knew I forgot something... > > > > Oops my fault. I uploaded potato kivio .debs to thekompany.com but I > never sent them to you. oh kewl...I don't have to worry about them then. :) guess I should make sure the incoming dir is accessable... ok... ftp://kde.tdyc.com/pub/incoming is writable. :) -- ---- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: Debain kpilot
On Wed, Nov 29, 2000 at 02:09:46PM -0500, Dale P. Smith wrote: > Is kpilot packaged for potato (or woody)? I don't see it with a seach > using debian package searcher at http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages Currenlty only for potato and it's a *old* version. The KDE 2 based kpilot has just (as in the past week or so) gotten to a point where it's functional. Unfortunatly it is part of KDE 2.1 and not native to the 2.0.x packages I have on kde.tdyc.com or in woody. I will be actually be making packages available for it once I get a chance. Ivan -- -------- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: Bug#77578: Alt-F2 and different background on multiple desktops problems.
> Either way it works now, with the newest packages from kde.tdyc.com, > 2.2.2-0.potato.6 > > Thanks a lot for fixing it. Hope it doesn't come back again. > it will. -- ------------ Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
reports
Those of you running the latest versions of either potato or woody KDE 2 packages (that meet the following versions)...let's go over all current problems... Package: kdelibs3 4:2.0-final-13 Package: kdebase-libs,kdebase,kdm,konqueror,konsole,libkonq3 4:2.0-final-13 are there any of the html problems or other odd behaviours as with the previous versions of late? Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: reports
I think this is disabled by upstream. On Wed, Nov 29, 2000 at 06:00:24PM -0500, Dale P. Smith wrote: > "Ivan E. Moore II" wrote: > > > > Those of you running the latest versions of either potato or woody KDE 2 > > packages (that meet the following versions)...let's go over all current > > problems... > > > > Package: kdelibs3 4:2.0-final-13 > > Package: kdebase-libs,kdebase,kdm,konqueror,konsole,libkonq3 4:2.0-final-13 > > > > are there any of the html problems or other odd behaviours as with the > > previous versions of late? > > Preferences -> Look & Feel -> Desktop -> Borders > Does not allow you to enable "Active desktop borders". > > Or is this a known problem / deconfigured option? > > > -Dale > -- > Dale P. Smith > Altus Technologies Corp. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 440-746-9000 x309 ---end quoted text--- -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: reports
> Thanks for all your work. As you may have noticed for the bugs I > but have since closed, kdelibs3 4:2.0-final-13 fixed all my problems > with helpcenter and konqueror being able to open/open html. great > As of now 1700 CST 29Nov00 my apt sites have not made any of the other > -13 packages available. So IF there are problems in the future I suggest > kdelibs3 be looked at as the cause. All of the rest of my kde2 packages > under woody are still -12. or older. they'll all be going back to -1 on Monday. :) -- ---- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: missing kdebase-crypto and kdelibs3-crypto
> It seems that kdebase-crypto and kdelibs3-crypto are currently missing from > the > kde.tdyc.com. as I said, not everything is finished nor uploaded. -- ---- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: libssl.so.0 and libcrypto.so.0 missing
> I've just upgraded libssl096, libssl096-dev and openssl to version > 0.9.6potato4. Some applications (kmail in particular) refuse to start with a : > > kmail: error in loading shared libraries: libssl.so.0: cannot open shared > object file: No such file or directory yea..upstream bug..I just filed a bug report and I will redo those potato packages to fix it. Ivan -- ------------ Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
