Please help with #865382
[ Let's see if this works better without a typo in the To: line... :-( ] Hey folks, We have a big problem with our Stretch KDE live images, and the problem seems to be KDE-specific. None of the other desktops show the same problem. Can you help please? -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com Can't keep my eyes from the circling sky, Tongue-tied & twisted, Just an earth-bound misfit, I...
Re: Please help with #865382
Don't know that there is much I can do. Don't seem to be able to get a clean install of Stretch Xfce to work. Boot fine to the tty. All the tools I could think of to try worked there fine. Can't get X11 to work at all. Not at all sure why not but it will not work at all. I tried # startx and that doesn't work. Tried Live, Default CD, netboot. Don't have permission to access to Console 1. Tried a boot install too. Won't boot. On 07/09/2017 05:09 PM, Steve McIntyre wrote: > [ Let's see if this works better without a typo in the To: line... :-( ] > > Hey folks, > > We have a big problem with our Stretch KDE live images, and the > problem seems to be KDE-specific. None of the other desktops show the > same problem. Can you help please? > signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Please help with #865382
On Mon, 2017-07-10 at 00:04 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > Hey folks, > > We have a big problem with our Stretch KDE live images, and the > problem seems to be KDE-specific. None of the other desktops show > the > same problem. Can you help please? > Hi, Can you indicate some of the issues as you know them at this time? Regards Phil -- *** If this is a mailing list, I am subscribed, no need to CC me.*** Playing the game for the games sake. Web: https://kathenas.org Twitter: kathenasorg Instagram: kathenasorg signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Please help with #865382
This install needs to go with and existing /home that has all ~/.foo removed except a custom (bunch of aliases) ~/.bashrc. Was a Mate install for sentimental reasons but I run Xfce so it needs changed. Works fine at the tty. Couldn't come up with something that didn't work that I even rarely use. Boot to the desktop with a normal menu entry and lightdm will come up but not work. No keyboard action except Alt + Sysreq + b. Can't get back to the tty for instance. Not thinking too hard I tried # dpkg-reconfigure lightdm That was fun just gave me dbus.service is not active, cannot reload. invoke-rc.d: initscript dbus, action "reload" failed. So worried about that for a while and then thought about xorg itself finally. Because startx didn't work (I don't do well at all over 80F and it has been over 100F for several days). This is what I get there xf86OpenConsole: Cannot open virtual console 1 permission denied. I prefer netinstalls because I can install all the real basic stuff and then configure the system to suit me and do the rest at the tty or in a chroot from one of my other installs (preferred method). No recommends for one thing. Also have a couple of non-free firmware packages that are needed (AMD MB and Radeon card - don't need the fglrx stuff at all) so there are some changes made to /etc/apt/** but nothing at all unusual. I need the firmware-realtek package so that any sort of gui network manager will "see" things - get connected automatically fine but like to use wicd to disconnect at times. Install things like xorg and xfce4 after I have an /etc/apt/apt.conf file to block recommends. I know which ones I want. Shouldn't need any. Have three sets of packages I install and check between batches that the system boots as it should at that point. Never get to installing more than the basics to get a desktop up. Because it will not boot to a working desktop. startx doesn't work at the tty # prompt. This is not a userland problem. Have not filed a bug because I am completely bewildered by this and really have no idea what package to file a bug on. On 07/09/2017 10:38 PM, Phil Wyett wrote: > On Mon, 2017-07-10 at 00:04 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: >> Hey folks, >> >> We have a big problem with our Stretch KDE live images, and the >> problem seems to be KDE-specific. None of the other desktops show >> the >> same problem. Can you help please? >> > Hi, > > Can you indicate some of the issues as you know them at this time? > > Regards > > Phil > signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Please help with #865382
Tom & Karen Pino composed on 2017-07-09 22:19 (UTC-0600): > ...Can't get X11 to work at all... When this happens, a solution is almost always hardware dependent, yet, like https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=865382 you've told us virtually nothing about your hardware, and provided no logs from which clues or potential help could come. >From a vtty login you can find and collect such information. To facilitate >this, if it is not already installed, install and use MC. It's a fantastic 'swiss army knife' text mode utility, able to locate and view all sorts of file types, edit many, ftp and much much more, while still providing direct access to the shell. Start by finding Xorg.0.log and sharing it via http://paste.debian.net/. You can do a paste directly from the cmdline using pastebinit. Install with apt if necessary. Give us some useful hardware information. The utility inxi is a good start. Install it if it isn't already installed, then share 'inxi -c0 -G'. Alternatively, do 'lspci -nnk | grep -A4 VGA', or do both. If /etc/X11/xorg.conf exists, show us what it contains. Same for /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/. Other logs are usually useful if not necessary. Use pastebinit to show us dmesg output and/or 'journalctl -b', after you have inspected them yourself for clues, such as segfaults and warnings, using the viewer (F3) build into MC. Look in /var/lib/systemd/coredump/. If it's not empty, provide a list of what it contains. /var/log/ might contain a log from lightdm or sddm. If it does, share that as well. Try installing and running IceWM if you can. That would indicate a problem with KDE rather than X. When I do net installs, which is how I do most installs, I do only the most basic minimal with networking that is possible, configure apt with 'APT::Install-Recommends "false";', then use apt to add whatever DE and other packages I know I need. If you did similarly, maybe we need to see a pastebin of the output from 'dpkg -l'. IOW, help us help you. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
