Re: SDDM lost display monitor
Yes, thanks- According to this: > https://github.com/sddm/sddm/releases it was fixed in version 0.10.0 but apparently not by Debian. On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 4:10 PM, Ottmar Deibert wrote: > Am Montag, 20. Juli 2015, 13:50:12 schrieb Ottmar Deibert: > > SDDM works fine here, but... > > > > now prints "/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin" > > > > which leads e.g. to the situation that it's not possible to call a > > game without previously expanding PATH by ":/usr/games" > > well... > I found this: >https://github.com/sddm/sddm/issues/256 > It's an old problem regarding the handling of PAM. > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1737326.E9R1qSVIsU@wotan > > -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This electronic communication with its contents may contain confidential and/or privileged information. It is solely for the use of the intended recipient(s). Unauthorized interception, review, use, or disclosure is prohibited and may violate applicable laws including the Electronic Communications Privacy Act. If you are not the intended recipient, or authorized to receive for the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the communication. Thank you for your consideration.
Re: SDDM lost display monitor
Ich sag mal so, wir sollten erst NG+ machen und danach mit den Asketenleuchtfeuern anfangen, aber generell könnte das witzig werden, jo. :) Am Dienstag, 21. Juli 2015, 05:10:32 schrieb Richard Newton: > Yes, thanks- > According to this: > https://github.com/sddm/sddm/releases > it was fixed in version 0.10.0 but apparently not by Debian. > > > On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 4:10 PM, Ottmar Deibert > > wrote: > > Am Montag, 20. Juli 2015, 13:50:12 schrieb Ottmar Deibert: > > > SDDM works fine here, but... > > > > > > now prints "/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin" > > > > > > which leads e.g. to the situation that it's not possible to call a > > > game without previously expanding PATH by ":/usr/games" > > > > well... > > I found this: >https://github.com/sddm/sddm/issues/256 > > It's an old problem regarding the handling of PAM. > > > > > > -- > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > > listmas...@lists.debian.org > > Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1737326.E9R1qSVIsU@wotan -- --- Sascha Mechler Lord of Black Forest Johann Nikolaus Kolb Straße 33 69207 Sandhausen Tel: 06224 / 99 60 37 Handy: 0177 / 617 70 48 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1898332.93E1l8rUbO@otto13
Re: Which packages for Plasma 5?
Am Sonntag, 19. Juli 2015, 23:23:01 schrieb Hillel Lubman: > On Friday, 17 Jul 2015 21:01:20 Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > And yes, some metapackages kde-full and kde-standard will have to go for > > > >now. The update is not atomic. I bet they can be installed at a later > >time or may even be replaced by something like plasma-full and > >plasma-standard. > > > >Remember you are using unstable. And the Debian Qt/KDE team is quite > >small. Give it some time till completion. Or help. […] > I'm a user of Debian testing (and KDE). How would this switch to Plasma 5 > affect testing? Will it be not atomic either and it's recommended to > pause updates for testing now to avoid semi-broken state, or in testing > this should normally happen in more consistent fashion? And if the > former, what would be an indicator that accumulated update is consistent > enough? Thanks! As I do not use testing, I have no data on this. I think it depends on whether transitions to testing are blocked by bug reports. It may make sense to wait a bit. At least kde-standard or kde-full metapackages are not yet installable in Sid. Ciao, -- Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/4434411.L6XuxioY4G@merkaba
Re: So I have a Plasma 5 desktop!
Am Samstag, 18. Juli 2015, 14:27:47 schrieb Marc Haber: > Hi, […] > On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 12:13:02PM +0200, Michael Schuerig wrote: > > Anyway, some features appear to have been lost in the upgrade. Here's > > what I'm missing so far: > > > > * Skype and others don't show up in the system tray any more. > > Apparently, I need to install sni-qt which isn't packaged, yet. See > > https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=289&t=124670 > > That's a pretty big transition, especially for the background that > sni-qt is dead upstream and won't come up in Debian any time soon. Well, its how upstream decided about it. > > * Plasma Search, the successor to KRunner, doesn't remember the history. > > (Really? :-O) > > > > * The Veromix plasmoid doesn't work anymore and there doesn't seem to be > > a suitable replacement to control PulseAudio from a panel. > > But, do you have sound? I seem to have lost sound completely. In > System Settings, all I can see is my hardware devices in "Audio > Hardware Setup". Both the "Device Preferences" and "Backend" tabs > don't offer anything to be selected. Pulseaudio is installed, and both > mpg321 and paplay on the command line work. Yes. But without Pulseaudio. Cause it still creates issues for me (last issue stuttering sound in PlaneShift all reported but yet unfixed I think). > Other than that, I am having a déjà vu regarding important functions > missing from the current release, although not so bad as with KDE 4. > > Most prominent absences are > > - Screensavers (with the additional fun of the canonical solution > being "use xscreensaver" if you want something shiny instead of a > blank screen) and Blanks screen just fine here. Make sure powerdevil package is installed. > - the QuickLaunch plasmoid, which allowed placement of launchers in > multiple rows inside the same panel. I would like to have some > feedback to replace QuickLaunch without wasting too much screen real > estate since normal launchers take about twice the panel space theat > QuickLaunch used to take. I hope there is some neat new way to do > things in plasma 5. No idea. > Otherwise, I hate to say that I do not (yet?) see any substantial > improvement over KDE 4 other than "it's qt5 now" (which is probably > important). It feels snappier for me. But sure, that is no hard data. Some long standing annoying bugs got fixed. > - It is still not possible to sensibly use a vertical panel, which is > quite important on small displays such as my 1366x768 panel which is > not high enough anyway and one doesn't want to waste Y coordinate > pixels with panels. A vertical panel is either unuseable because the > task manager fields are too small to have any valueable contents or, > on a wider panel, the icons get scaled up according to panel width so > that they fill up too much of the panel space. It is obviously still > not possible to place small icons side-by-side to each other in a wide > vertical panel. I use a vertical panel. Granted the K menu icon is very large. But otherwise looks OK. But needs to be wide enough for clock as it doesn´t scale properly. For placing icons side by side I think I used some launcher widget as you mentioned. It may be that not all widgets are packages yet for Plasma 5. Maybe there are still some missing compared to what upstream delivers. > I appreciate the Debian KDE team's work and acknowledge that most of > the issues mentioned here are upstream issues that Debian cannot > solve. Sadly, this is another instance of an "upstream didn't care > enough" that we have had so often in the past in the KDE world. I think the transition is much more smooth than with KDE SC 3 => 4. A lot more. I am using Plasma 5 productively since more than a week already. But there will be at least one more transition: KDEPIM 4.14 => KDEPIM 5. And probably another one: Akonadi => Akonadi Next. Ciao, -- Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/4800649.MLAr95Pet8@merkaba
Re: Transition to KDE 5 in testing : some glitches...
Am Montag, 20. Juli 2015, 14:21:05 schrieb Erwan David: > On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 12:28:07PM CEST, Rubin Abdi said: > > I just spent the last 5 hours in dependency hell while trying to figure > > out how to upgrade to Plasma 5 during a dist-upgrade on Sid. Horrible. > > > > My system is somewhat coherent again after a bunch of searching for > > things. > > > > As far as sound goes, I needed to install kmix to get the volume control > > buttons on my laptop functional again, and pavucontrol to have a nice > > GUI to switch audio sinks. I hope that solves your 2nd issue. > > Thanks, I do not use pulseaudio, thus no pavucontrol, and I do not see > any kmix other than the 4.14 that I already have. Experimental has a newer one that works for me: merkaba:~> rmadison kmix | cut -c1-70 kmix | 4:4.4.5-1 | oldoldstable| amd64, armel, i386, ia6 kmix | 4:4.8.4-2 | oldstable | amd64, armel, armhf, i3 kmix | 4:4.14.0-1| stable | source, amd64, arm64, a kmix | 4:4.14.0-1| stable-kfreebsd | source, kfreebsd-amd64, kmix | 4:4.14.0-1| testing | source, amd64, arm64, a kmix | 4:4.14.0-1| unstable| source, amd64, arm64, a kmix | 4:14.12.2-1 | experimental| source, amd64, arm64, a (but I think the 4.14 one also worked) -- Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1851471.lZfTOolDH7@merkaba
Re: help, lost the tops of windows in KDE 4.X
Am Montag, 20. Juli 2015, 11:25:17 schrieb Arthur Marsh: > Hi, I've lost the tops of windows and hence the ability to move them, > and also the ability to switch tasks with alt-tab on my other machine > and wonder where I should go looking to fix this. Read the list. This is already becoming a FAQ. Install kwin-x11 package. Ciao, -- Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1649209.Ur1DhKpyxL@merkaba
Re: Which packages for Plasma 5?
Kde5 is in process of migrating, as i see.Use this:https://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=plasma-workspace6:39, 20 июля 2015 г., Hillel Lubman : On Friday, 17 Jul 2015 21:01:20 Martin Steigerwald wrote: > And yes, some metapackages kde-full and kde-standard will have to go for >now. The update is not atomic. I bet they can be installed at a later time >or may even be replaced by something like plasma-full and plasma-standard. > >Remember you are using unstable. And the Debian Qt/KDE team is quite small. >Give it some time till completion. Or help. Hi. I'm a user of Debian testing (and KDE). How would this switch to Plasma 5 affect testing? Will it be not atomic either and it's recommended to pause updates for testing now to avoid semi-broken state, or in testing this should normally happen in more consistent fashion? And if the former, what would be an indicator that accumulated update is consistent enough? Thanks! Hillel Lubman. -- Sayutin Dmitry
Re: Things possibly missing/broken from Plasma 5 on Sid?
Am Montag, 20. Juli 2015, 03:39:35 schrieb Rubin Abdi: […] > Now after much searching I'm finding that either some things haven't made > it into Sid, simply don't exist yet in Plasma 5, or I just haven't found a > good solution to. I'm hoping by listing some of this stuff here and > either get a confirmation that it's just not ready for Plasma 5 on Sid, > or that maybe there's some solution to getting it working that I haven't > found. Read the list, many of these have already been discussed: > - No simple way of getting older style system tray apps in the newer > system tray (Pidgin, Shutter) Known issue. Systray doesn´t support old way to add icons. Read list. > - No printer manager Experimental has one that is installable. merkaba:~> rmadison print-manager | cut -c1-74 print-manager | 4:4.14.0-1 | stable | source, amd64, print-manager | 4:4.14.0-1 | stable-kfreebsd | source, kfreeb print-manager | 4:4.14.0-1 | testing | source, amd64, print-manager | 4:4.14.0-1 | unstable| source, amd64, print-manager | 4:15.04.0~git20150217-1 | experimental| source, amd64, Didn´t restart session yet to see whether its the kded service for it works. > - No veromix No idea. Do not use PulseAudio. > - Ability to customize time/date format isn't implemented yet (or ever > will be?) Hmm? > - No kscreensaver Basic screen blanker with powerdevil package. kscreensaver is not supported anymore. See blog from kwin developer Martin Graesslin for details. > - Can't customize where krunner indexes Is in system-settings Desktop/Search (roughly translated from german) (also accessible from krunner itself). Baloo settings are also available there. Only basic kcm working currently and so you can only exclude directories. > - No colord / KDE color profile manager No idea yet. > - CPU/RAM/HD panel monitors are huge and there's no way to resize them Agreed. Widget placement is a lot tricker than with KDE SC 4. I consider filing upstream bugs about some of these issues. Ciao, -- Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/2610344.sjkebSxQ4a@merkaba
Re: Transition to KDE 5 in testing : some glitches...
Hi Erwan, Am Montag, 20. Juli 2015, 09:15:14 schrieb Erwan David: > My testing begins to install some KDE 5 packages, and I have 2 small > problems : > > 1) Now at login I must unlock Kd5 wallet and Kde4 wallet. Is there a way > to use only one of them ? For now: No. Till you use only applications that have been ported to the new one. kwallet-kf5 is a good oppurtunity to migrate to a kwallet which is protected by a strong GPG key. Ciao, -- Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/2180087.Rh6xo6fx5g@merkaba
Re: Which packages for Plasma 5?
Le 21/07/2015 17:51, Sayutin Dmitry a écrit : > Kde5 is in process of migrating, as i see. > Use this: > https://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=plasma-workspace > > 6:39, 20 июля 2015 г., Hillel Lubman : > > On Friday, 17 Jul 2015 21:01:20 Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > And yes, some metapackages kde-full and kde-standard will have > to go for > >now. The update is not atomic. I bet they can be installed at a > later time > >or may even be replaced by something like plasma-full and > plasma-standard. > > > >Remember you are using unstable. And the Debian Qt/KDE team is > quite small. > >Give it some time till completion. Or help. > Hi. > > I'm a user of Debian testing (and KDE). How would this switch to > Plasma 5 affect testing? Will it be not atomic either and it's > recommended to pause updates for testing now to avoid semi-broken > state, or in testing this should normally happen in more > consistent fashion? And if the former, what would be an indicator > that accumulated update is consistent enough? > Thanks! > > Hillel Lubman. > > > > > -- > Sayutin Dmitry In testing I lost bluetooth with upgrade of bluedevil to the KDE 5 one... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55ae7670.5020...@rail.eu.org
