Little problem with Kde

2014-12-11 Thread MERLIN Philippe
Hello,
First on my computer it's an Debian Sid up to date and  kde 4.14.2.
First of all I would want to congratulate the Kde team on its really fantastic 
work.
However I collide with Kde with a problem which bores me a lot.
When I click " to Switch off the computer " in Kde, the current duration of 
this phase is nearby of 2 minutes and the computer does not go out 
electrically what is very boring.
By comparison if I stop Kontact then the server Akonadi by means of one " 
akonadictl stop " and I launch  a halt p in Konsole the stop total is lower 
than 40 seconds.
My question is the following one why Kde puts so much time to make an 
extinction of the computer without arriving there completely, for the 
complete extinction I think of having the solution instead of making a halt 
it is necessary to launch a halt - p. For excessive duration I do not know.
Other small problem in the starting up, would be you it possible to launch 
the akonadi server very quickly, because often during the opening of the 
window Kontact I have the message "akonadi server not yet completely 
launched.
Philippe Merlin


Re: Little problem with Kde

2014-12-11 Thread Xavier Brochard
Hi, 
Not the same behaviour here : computer and akonadi close fast. 
However I remember some closing problems in akonadi in the past. What kde 
version are you running ?
Which startup system (sysvinit, upstart, systemd) ? 
How it works if you try to stop your computer from a fresh  test account ?

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Le jeudi 11 décembre 2014, 13:11:09 MERLIN Philippe a écrit :
> Hello,
> First on my computer it's an Debian Sid up to date and  kde 4.14.2.
> First of all I would want to congratulate the Kde team on its really
> fantastic work.
> However I collide with Kde with a problem which bores me a lot.
> When I click " to Switch off the computer " in Kde, the current duration of
> this phase is nearby of 2 minutes and the computer does not go out
> electrically what is very boring.
> By comparison if I stop Kontact then the server Akonadi by means of one "
> akonadictl stop " and I launch  a halt p in Konsole the stop total is lower
> than 40 seconds.
> My question is the following one why Kde puts so much time to make an
> extinction of the computer without arriving there completely, for the
> complete extinction I think of having the solution instead of making a halt
> it is necessary to launch a halt - p. For excessive duration I do not know.
> Other small problem in the starting up, would be you it possible to launch
> the akonadi server very quickly, because often during the opening of the
> window Kontact I have the message "akonadi server not yet completely
> launched.
> Philippe Merlin


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Re: Little problem with Kde

2014-12-11 Thread MERLIN Philippe
Le jeudi 11 décembre 2014, 14:57:46 Xavier Brochard a écrit :
> Hi,
> Not the same behaviour here : computer and akonadi close fast.
> However I remember some closing problems in akonadi in the past. What 
kde
> version are you running ?
> Which startup system (sysvinit, upstart, systemd) ?
> How it works if you try to stop your computer from a fresh  test account ?
> 
> > Hello,
> > First on my computer it's an Debian Sid up to date and _ kde 4.14.2._
Thanks for the answer.
For the version of Kde its was in the first message.
Startup system : Systemd
Yes Akonadi stop fast, but i think start too late at the start of an session 
Kde.
 
> > Philippe Merlin



Re: Little problem with Kde

2014-12-11 Thread David Baron
I believe the problem is memory. Sign out, it releases a whole bunch of memory 
(KDE is not exactly economical). Get this behavior going from account to 
account if I have two sessions going and log out from one.

Once the log out is done, the poweroff is very quick (systemd).

> Hi,
> Not the same behaviour here : computer and akonadi close fast.
> However I remember some closing problems in akonadi in the past. What kde
> version are you running ?
> Which startup system (sysvinit, upstart, systemd) ?
> How it works if you try to stop your computer from a fresh  test account ?
> 
> > Hello,
> > First on my computer it's an Debian Sid up to date and  kde 4.14.2.
> > First of all I would want to congratulate the Kde team on its really
> > fantastic work.
> > However I collide with Kde with a problem which bores me a lot.
> > When I click " to Switch off the computer " in Kde, the current duration
> > of
> > this phase is nearby of 2 minutes and the computer does not go out
> > electrically what is very boring.
> > By comparison if I stop Kontact then the server Akonadi by means of one "
> > akonadictl stop " and I launch  a halt p in Konsole the stop total is
> > lower
> > than 40 seconds.
> > My question is the following one why Kde puts so much time to make an
> > extinction of the computer without arriving there completely, for the
> > complete extinction I think of having the solution instead of making a
> > halt
> > it is necessary to launch a halt - p. For excessive duration I do not
> > know.
> > Other small problem in the starting up, would be you it possible to launch
> > the akonadi server very quickly, because often during the opening of the
> > window Kontact I have the message "akonadi server not yet completely
> > launched.
> > Philippe Merlin


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Re: Little problem with Kde

2014-12-11 Thread MERLIN Philippe
Le jeudi 11 décembre 2014, 18:14:02 David Baron a écrit :
> I believe the problem is memory. Sign out, it releases a whole 
bunch of
> memory (KDE is not exactly economical). Get this behavior 
going from
> account to account if I have two sessions going and log out 
from one.
> 
> Once the log out is done, the poweroff is very quick (systemd).
Its very interesting, you say, that you obtain an *poweroff* with 
kde, for me  i have only an *halt* which with systemd does not 
stop electrically the computer.
Philippe Merlin



Re: Little problem with Kde

2014-12-11 Thread David Baron
On Thursday 11 December 2014 17:56:52 MERLIN Philippe wrote:
> Le jeudi 11 décembre 2014, 18:14:02 David Baron a écrit :
> > I believe the problem is memory. Sign out, it releases a whole
> 
> bunch of
> 
> > memory (KDE is not exactly economical). Get this behavior
> 
> going from
> 
> > account to account if I have two sessions going and log out
> 
> from one.
> 
> > Once the log out is done, the poweroff is very quick (systemd).
> 
> Its very interesting, you say, that you obtain an *poweroff* with
> kde, for me  i have only an *halt* which with systemd does not
> stop electrically the computer.
> Philippe Merlin

I think this is configurable


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Re: Little problem with Kde

2014-12-11 Thread MERLIN Philippe
Le jeudi 11 décembre 2014, 19:44:59 David Baron a écrit :
> On Thursday 11 December 2014 17:56:52 MERLIN Philippe wrote:
> > Le jeudi 11 décembre 2014, 18:14:02 David Baron a écrit :
> > > I believe the problem is memory. Sign out, it releases a whole
> > 
> > bunch of
> > 
> > > memory (KDE is not exactly economical). Get this behavior
> > 
> > going from
> > 
> > > account to account if I have two sessions going and log out
> > 
> > from one.
> > 
> > > Once the log out is done, the poweroff is very quick (systemd).
> > 
> > Its very interesting, you say, that you obtain an *poweroff* with
> > kde, for me  i have only an *halt* which with systemd does not
> > stop electrically the computer.
> > Philippe Merlin
> 
> I think this is configurable
Certainly but I do not see where! I am interested of any solution, for 
information before we migrate to Systemd this problem did not exist.
Philippe Merlin


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Re: Little problem with Kde

2014-12-11 Thread Xavier Brochard
Le jeudi 11 décembre 2014, 17:06:04 MERLIN Philippe a écrit :
> Le jeudi 11 décembre 2014, 14:57:46 Xavier Brochard a écrit :

> > How it works if you try to stop your computer from a fresh  test account ?

try this, just to check if  the problem comes from your kde config

> > > First on my computer it's an Debian Sid up to date and _ kde 4.14.2._

sorry, I've missed this one

> Yes Akonadi stop fast, but i think start too late at the start of an session
> Kde.

It's a bit late here too (around 7-15 second after session start)

Nothing in your .xsession-errors ?

Xavier


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Re: Little problem with Kde

2014-12-11 Thread Sandro Knauß
Hey,

> I think this is configurable

I would take a look at your configs from your login manager. At least kdm 
handles the shutdown commad: /etc/kde4/kdm/kdmrc

regards,

sandro



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Re: Little problem with Kde

2014-12-11 Thread Marco Valli
In data giovedì 11 dicembre 2014 19:20:23, MERLIN Philippe ha scritto:
> for 
> information before we migrate to Systemd this problem did not exist.

Hi Philippe,
use
systemd-analyze blame
to see timing details about the boot process.
Show the results to us, too :-)
Regards 

Ps my boot process took 3.342s in Debian Sid

marco@Shambhala:~$ systemd-analyze
Startup finished in 1.569s (kernel) + 1.772s (userspace) = 3.342s
marco@Shambhala:~$

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Re: Little problem with Kde

2014-12-11 Thread MERLIN Philippe
Le jeudi 11 décembre 2014, 21:05:39 Sandro Knauß a écrit :
> Hey,
> 
> > I think this is configurable
> 
> I would take a look at your configs from your login manager. At least kdm
> handles the shutdown commad: /etc/kde4/kdm/kdmrc
> 
> regards,
> 
> sandro
Thank you for your help,I join my /etc/kde4/kdm/kdmrc
Best regards.
Philippe Merlin
[General]
ConfigVersion=2.4
ConsoleTTYs=tty1,tty2,tty3,tty4,tty5,tty6
PidFile=/var/run/kdm.pid
ReserveServers=:1,:2,:3
ServerVTs=-7
StaticServers=:0

[Shutdown]
BootManager=None
HaltCmd=/sbin/halt
RebootCmd=/sbin/reboot

[X-*-Core]
AllowNullPasswd=false
AllowRootLogin=true
AllowShutdown=Root
AutoReLogin=false
ClientLogFile=.xsession-errors-%d
Reset=/etc/kde4/kdm/Xreset
ServerTimeout=120
Session=/etc/kde4/kdm/Xsession
Setup=/etc/kde4/kdm/Xsetup
Startup=/etc/kde4/kdm/Xstartup

[X-*-Greeter]
AntiAliasing=false
ColorScheme=Whitewater
FaceSource=AdminOnly
FailFont=Sans Serif,10,-1,5,75,0,0,0,0,0
GUIStyle=Oxygen
GreetFont=Serif,20,-1,5,50,0,0,0,0,0
GreetString=Bienvenue  chez Philippe
GreeterPos=50,50
HiddenUsers=smbguest,christian
Language=fr
LogoArea=Clock
LogoPixmap=
MaxShowUID=2
MinShowUID=1000
Preloader=/usr/bin/preloadkde
SelectedUsers=
ShowUsers=NotHidden
SortUsers=true
StdFont=Sans Serif,10,-1,5,50,0,0,0,0,0
Theme=
UseBackground=true
UseTheme=false
UserCompletion=false
UserList=true

[X-:*-Core]
AllowNullPasswd=true
AllowShutdown=All
NoPassEnable=false
NoPassUsers=
ServerArgsLocal=-br -nolisten tcp
ServerCmd=/usr/bin/X

[X-:*-Greeter]
AllowClose=true
DefaultUser=philippe
FocusPasswd=false
LoginMode=DefaultLocal
PreselectUser=Previous

[X-:0-Core]
AutoLoginEnable=false
AutoLoginLocked=false
AutoLoginUser=
ClientLogFile=.xsession-errors

[Xdmcp]
Enable=false
Willing=/etc/kde4/kdm/Xwilling


Re: Little problem with Kde

2014-12-11 Thread Sandro Knauß
Hey,

I would suggest, that you delete your halt/reboot command to the defaults or 
modify it to somthing that works for your computer.

# The command (subject to word splitting) to run to halt the system.
# Default is "/sbin/shutdown -h -P now"
#HaltCmd=
# The command (subject to word splitting) to run to reboot the system.
# Default is "/sbin/shutdown -r now"
#RebootCmd=

Regads,

sandro

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Am Donnerstag, 11. Dezember 2014, 22:55:48 schrieb MERLIN Philippe:
> Le jeudi 11 décembre 2014, 21:05:39 Sandro Knauß a écrit :
> > Hey,
> > 
> > > I think this is configurable
> > 
> > I would take a look at your configs from your login manager. At least kdm
> > handles the shutdown commad: /etc/kde4/kdm/kdmrc
> > 
> > regards,
> > 
> > sandro
> 
> Thank you for your help,I join my /etc/kde4/kdm/kdmrc
> Best regards.
> Philippe Merlin


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