Re: In the update to 4.10 ...
chek if there is any other broken package messing around. I made the transition to KDE 4.10 smoothly last sunday but had to fix broken packages manually in aptitude because of a conflict between libopus0 and libopus0:i386 or, otherwise, aptitude wanted to remove 251 packages!!! Kind regards, Alejandro. El Martes, 16 de julio de 2013 13:58:43 David Goodenough escribió: > how many packages are expected to be removed. apt-get is telling me 213, > including things like akregator that I use every day. > > I suspect this is because the mirrors have not caught up, so if I knew how > many to expect I would know when to accept the upgrade. > > I am on sid, so this is from an otherwise up to date machine which I > upgrade every morning (it is a sacrifical machine but I would rather avoid > too many sacrifices). > > The odd thing is that if I explicitly tell it to install akregator (which > is already installed) it will happily do so, but then want to remove > about 90 other packages. > > I am using the round robin http.debian.net in source.list. > > David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201307171139.49664.alerabalis...@gmail.com
Re: In the update to 4.10 ...
On Tuesday 16 Jul 2013, Sune Vuorela wrote: > On 2013-07-16, David Goodenough wrote: > > how many packages are expected to be removed. apt-get is telling me 213, > > including things like akregator that I use every day. > > I would say like a handful plus some replacements (like libfoo6abi1 > replaced by libfoo6abi2) > > It might be that the mirror is slightly outdated or that the build > network just is catching up. > > If the error still persist tomorrow, please tell your architecture and > exactly what apt is telling you. > > /Sune Ok, the problem persists. The machine is running sid, and apart from these problems is brought up to date each day. It is a 686 machine. I am fetching from the virtual mirror http.debian.net, and it is the only source listed in sources.list and sources.list.d is empty. I did "apt-get update; apt-get -u upgrade" this morning, and they went fine, but then when I tried apt-get -u dist-upgrade I get the output you can see at http://pastebin.com/ZJUzP83h . If I try to install one of the things that is supposed to be removed like akregator, it says it will install, but will still remove a bunch of stuff (but only 90 or so rather than the 200 in this list). David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201307171146.50118.david.goodeno...@btconnect.com
Re: Re: In the update to 4.10 ...
On Wednesday 17 July 2013 11:46:49 David Goodenough wrote: > I did "apt-get update; apt-get -u upgrade" this morning, and they went > fine, but then when I tried apt-get -u dist-upgrade I get the output you > can see at http://pastebin.com/ZJUzP83h . Was that the full output? Because if you do 'aptitude full-upgrade', it would also list *WHY* those packages would be removed, which would help greatly in finding the problem and hence the solution. -- GPG: 0x138E41915C7EFED6 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Re: Recommended way to use Debian?
On Monday 15 July 2013 11:24:28 Shervin Emami wrote: > I'm using the NVIDIA driver from Debian Stable, but since I have Optimus > (both an Intel & NVIDIA GPU), it would be using the Intel driver for normal > display, and I made it use Mesa as the default GL library for this reason. > So maybe my problems are related to Optimus, I wouldn't be surprised :-( I wouldn't be surprised if Optimus is indeed one/the source of your problems. To determine whether that is indeed the case, you'd probably want to write an email to the nvidia devel ML (http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-nvidia-devel) for that. AFAIK the bumblebee maintainers are also subscribed to that list. HTH -- GPG: 0x138E41915C7EFED6 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: In the update to 4.10 ...
On Wednesday 17 Jul 2013, Diederik de Haas wrote: > On Wednesday 17 July 2013 11:46:49 David Goodenough wrote: > > I did "apt-get update; apt-get -u upgrade" this morning, and they went > > fine, but then when I tried apt-get -u dist-upgrade I get the output you > > can see at http://pastebin.com/ZJUzP83h . > > Was that the full output? > Because if you do 'aptitude full-upgrade', it would also list *WHY* those > packages would be removed, which would help greatly in finding the problem > and hence the solution. as I mentioned, I use apt-get not aptitude, so yes, baring a few lines at the begining saying that:- Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done That was all it said. I can try aptitude, but apt-get has always served me well in the past. David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201307171248.26381.david.goodeno...@btconnect.com
Re: Kde 4.10 in testing
On 16/07/2013 at 18:11, Erwan David wrote: > How can I upgrade swiftly ? On my testing, this command will pull in newer KDE SC (whether it will actually work is another question): aptitiude -t sid install ~i?or(?tag(suite::kde), .*plasma.*, libk.*) You have to install debtags package in order for it to work. Last search query, libk.*, is for libkcrossui4, libknewstuff2-4 and few other packages that are required, but has not been tagged as part of KDE SC. Of course it might also install some packages whose name happen to start with libk, but are not part of KDE, possibly leading to further conflicts or even system breakage (most notable examples are kernel-related: libkmod2 and libkms1). Use it with care. Also, new kwin conflicts with kwin-style-dekorator; I had to remove the latter before I could proceed. To sum up: I do not give any guarantee that your system will still work after executing above command. Use it at your own risk. Personally, I'm just waiting for packages to migrate to testing. -- Best regards Mirosław Zalewski -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201307171354.53071.mini...@poczta.onet.pl
Re: In the update to 4.10 ...
On 17/07/2013 at 13:48, David Goodenough
wrote:
> I can try aptitude, but apt-get has always served me well in the past.
If you do not want to mess apt-get with aptitude (which I believe is safe now,
but there were some problems few years ago), just do:
aptitude -s full-upgrade
It will provide you with all information and questions, but will not download
or install anything ("-s" stands for "simulate").
--
Best regards
Mirosław Zalewski
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Re: In the update to 4.10 ...
On Wednesday 17 Jul 2013, Diederik de Haas wrote:
> On Wednesday 17 July 2013 11:46:49 David Goodenough wrote:
> > I did "apt-get update; apt-get -u upgrade" this morning, and they went
> > fine, but then when I tried apt-get -u dist-upgrade I get the output you
> > can see at http://pastebin.com/ZJUzP83h .
>
> Was that the full output?
> Because if you do 'aptitude full-upgrade', it would also list *WHY* those
> packages would be removed, which would help greatly in finding the problem
> and hence the solution.
OK, doing an aptitude full-upgrade I get:-
The following NEW packages will be installed:
kdesdk-thumbnailers{a} kio-audiocd{a} libakonadi-calendar4{a} libakonadi-
notes4{a} libanalitza4abi2{a} libanalitzagui4abi1{a}
libanalitzaplot4{a} libcalendarsupport4{a} libeventviews4{a} libgrantlee-
core0{a} libgrantlee-gui0{a} libincidenceeditorsng4{a}
libkactivities-models1{a} libkalarmcal2{a} libkasten2controllers2{a}
libkasten2core2{a} libkasten2gui2{a}
libkasten2okteta1controllers1{a} libkasten2okteta1core1{a}
libkasten2okteta1gui1{a} libkcompactdisc4{a} libkdcraw22{a} libkdegames6{a}
libkdepimdbusinterfaces4{a} libkdgantt2-0{a} libkexiv2-11{a} libkipi10{a}
libkmanagesieve4{a} libkmbox4{a} libksieveui4{a}
libkwineffects1abi4{a} libkwinglutils1abi1{a} libkworkspace4abi2{a}
libmailcommon4{a} libmailimporter4{a} libmessagecomposer4{a}
libmessageviewer4{a} libmusicbrainz5-0{a} libnepomukcore4{a}
libnepomukwidgets4{a} libokularcore2{a} libpimcommon4{a} libqjson0{a}
libqoauth1{a} libshp1{a} libtelepathy-qt4-2{a} libtemplateparser4{a}
libwcs4{a} libxcb-damage0{a} nepomuk-core-data{a}
nepomuk-core-runtime{a} picmi{a}
The following packages will be upgraded:
akonadiconsole akregator amor ark blinken blogilo bomber bovo cantor cantor-
backend-kalgebra cervisia cvsservice dolphin dragonplayer
filelight granatier gwenview jovie juk kaccessible kaddressbook kalarm
kalgebra kalgebra-common kalzium kamera kanagram kapman
kapptemplate kate katepart katomic kbattleship kblackbox kblocks kbounce
kbreakout kbruch kcachegrind kcalc kcharselect kcolorchooser
kde-baseapps kde-baseapps-bin kde-baseapps-data kde-config-cddb kde-runtime
kde-runtime-data kde-style-oxygen kde-window-manager
kde-workspace kde-workspace-bin kde-workspace-data kde-workspace-kgreet-
plugins kdeadmin kdeartwork kdegames kdegraphics-mobipocket
kdegraphics-thumbnailers kdelibs-bin{b} kdelibs5-data kdelibs5-plugins
kdelirc kdemultimedia-kio-plugins kdenetwork kdepasswd kdepim
kdepim-kresources kdepim-runtime kdepim-strigi-plugins kdepimlibs-kio-
plugins kdeplasma-addons kdesdk kdesdk-kio-plugins kdesdk-misc
kdetoys kdewebdev kdf kdiamond kdm kdoctools kfilereplace kfind kfourinline
kgamma kgeography kget kgoldrunner kgpg khangman
khelpcenter4 kig kigo killbots kimagemapeditor kinfocenter kiriki kiten
kjots kjumpingcube kleopatra klettres klickety klines
klinkstatus klipper kmag kmahjongg kmail kmenuedit kmines kmix kmousetool
kmouth kmplot kmtrace knetwalk knode knotes kolf kollision
kolourpaint4 kommander kompare konq-plugins konqueror konqueror-nsplugins
konquest konsole konsolekalendar kontact kopete korganizer
kpartloader kpat kppp krdc kremotecontrol kreversi krfb krosspython kruler
kscd kscreensaver kscreensaver-xsavers kshisen ksirk
ksnapshot kspaceduel ksquares kstars ksudoku ksysguard ksysguardd ksystemlog
kteatime ktimer ktimetracker ktouch ktron ktuberling
kturtle kubrick kuiviewer kuser kwalletmanager kwordquiz kwrite libakonadi-
contact4 libakonadi-kcal4 libakonadi-kde4 libakonadi-kmime4
libkabc4 libkactivities-bin libkactivities6 libkateinterfaces4
libkatepartinterfaces4 libkblog4 libkcal4 libkcalcore4 libkcalutils4
libkcddb4 libkcmutils4 libkde3support4 libkdeclarative5 libkdecore5
libkdepim4 libkdesu5 libkdeui5 libkdewebkit5 libkdnssd4
libkemoticons4 libkephal4abi1 libkfile4 libkholidays4 libkhtml5
libkidletime4 libkimap4 libkimproxy4 libkio5 libkiten4abi1 libkjsapi4
libkjsembed4 libkldap4 libkleo4 libkmahjongglib4 libkmediaplayer4 libkmime4
libknewstuff2-4 libknewstuff3-4 libknotifyconfig4 libkntlm4
libkonq-common libkonq5abi1 libkonqsidebarplugin4a libkontactinterface4
libkopete4 libkparts4 libkpgp4 libkpimidentities4
libkpimtextedit4 libkpimutils4 libkprintutils4 libkpty4 libkresources4
libkrosscore4 libkrossui4 libksane0 libkscreensaver5 libksgrd4
libksieve4 libksignalplotter4 libktexteditor4 libktnef4 libkunitconversion4
libkutils4 libkxmlrpcclient4 libmailtransport4
libmessagecore4 libmessagelist4 libmicroblog4 libnepomuk4 libnepomukquery4a
libnepomukutils4 libplasma-geolocation-interface4 libplasma3
libplasmaclock4abi3 libplasmagenericshell4 libprocesscore4abi1
libprocessui4a libsmokekdecore4-3 libsmokekdeui4-3 libsmokekfile3
libsmokekhtml3 libsmokekio3 libsmokeknewstuff2-3 libsmokeknewstuff3-3
libsmokekparts3 libsmokektexteditor3 libsmokekutils3
libsmokenepomuk3 libsmokeplasma3 libsmokesolid3 libsolid4
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Re: In the update to 4.10 ...
On 2013-07-17, David Goodenough wrote: > kdelibs-bin : Conflicts: kdelibs4c2a but 4:3.5.10.dfsg.1-5 is installed. Aha. you have kde3 kdelibs still installed. Apparantly apt has a bit of issues with the removal here. kdelibs4c2a is kde3 kdelibs and need sto be removed. > kdepim-wizards : Depends: libkdepim4 (= 4:4.4.11.1+l10n-3+b1) but 4:4.10.5-1 > is to be installed. kdepim-wizards as a package is gone > kdepim-groupware : Depends: libkdepim4 (= 4:4.4.11.1+l10n-3+b1) but > 4:4.10.5-1 is to be installed. and so is this. > Remove the following packages: these are in general kde3/qt3 stuff, except the two packages mentioned above. > Leave the following dependencies unresolved: > 98) libmarblewidget13 recommends marble-plugins (= 4:4.8.4-3) libmarblewidget13 is going away. I think it is safe to accept that solution. I think that apt also should be able to give a better solution if you remove kdelibs4c2a first. Note that kdelibs4c2a is not part of latest stable release. /Sune -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/slrnkud2cl.j0.nos...@sshway.ssh.pusling.com
Re: In the update to 4.10 ...
On Wednesday 17 Jul 2013, Sune Vuorela wrote: > On 2013-07-17, David Goodenough wrote: > > kdelibs-bin : Conflicts: kdelibs4c2a but 4:3.5.10.dfsg.1-5 is installed. > > Aha. you have kde3 kdelibs still installed. Apparantly apt has a bit of > issues with the removal here. kdelibs4c2a is kde3 kdelibs and need sto > be removed. Sune, Right, I removed kdelib24c2a and while it removed a few things I still use on other machines (kcpuload, knetload and kdeprint), I guess there are new alternatives (I think the kxxxload ones are replaces with new plasma widgets?, but kdeprint - is there a proper KDE4 version of this yet?) Removing this did allow apt-get dist-upgrade to do its job, and it now only wants to remove kdepim-wizards and kdepim-groupware which as you point out is expected. Thank you David > > > kdepim-wizards : Depends: libkdepim4 (= 4:4.4.11.1+l10n-3+b1) but > > 4:4.10.5-1 > > > > is to be installed. > > kdepim-wizards as a package is gone > > > kdepim-groupware : Depends: libkdepim4 (= 4:4.4.11.1+l10n-3+b1) but > > > > 4:4.10.5-1 is to be installed. > > and so is this. > > > Remove the following packages: > these are in general kde3/qt3 stuff, except the two packages mentioned > above. > > > Leave the following dependencies unresolved: > > 98) libmarblewidget13 recommends marble-plugins (= 4:4.8.4-3) > > libmarblewidget13 is going away. > > > I think it is safe to accept that solution. I think that apt also should > be able to give a better solution if you remove kdelibs4c2a first. Note > that kdelibs4c2a is not part of latest stable release. > > /Sune -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201307171348.20982.david.goodeno...@btconnect.com
Re: Re: Recommended way to use Debian?
Thanks everyone for your help, it does indeed look like I'm having graphics issues thanks to Optimus. Plasma suddenly died on me just now (or atleast that's what I thought happened) and after looking into Xorg.0.log I saw that actually my Intel GPU had crashed! Hence why I couldn't see Plasma decorations. So I'll email that pkg-nvidia-devel list, maybe the Bumblebee guys are interested and if not I'll send my crash report to Intel. Cheers, Shervin Emami. http://www.shervinemami.info/openCV.html On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 4:36 AM, Diederik de Haas wrote: > On Monday 15 July 2013 11:24:28 Shervin Emami wrote: > > I'm using the NVIDIA driver from Debian Stable, but since I have Optimus > > (both an Intel & NVIDIA GPU), it would be using the Intel driver for > normal > > display, and I made it use Mesa as the default GL library for this > reason. > > So maybe my problems are related to Optimus, I wouldn't be surprised :-( > > I wouldn't be surprised if Optimus is indeed one/the source of your > problems. > To determine whether that is indeed the case, you'd probably want to write > an > email to the nvidia devel ML ( > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-nvidia-devel) > for that. > AFAIK the bumblebee maintainers are also subscribed to that list. > > HTH > > -- > GPG: 0x138E41915C7EFED6
