Re: KOffice 2.2.0 available for general consumption

2010-05-29 Thread kap4lin
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Ana Guerrero  wrote:
>
> KOffice 2.2.0 is available for amd64 & i386 from the semi-official repository
> at: http://qt-kde.debian.net/
>
> It is still to be decided if KOffice 2.2.0 will make it into Squeeze, I am
> currently inclined to do so. However, it is not yet fully decided and I would
> love some well argumented feedback. Take into consideration some apps are more
> mature than others.

Out of curiosity, I installed koffice on a spare Virtualbox VM
(Debian/sid - sidux). The VM itself is kept updated.

Both kword and kspread crashed (repeatedly & deterministically) when
trying to open new blank document! Karbon, Krita, Kpresenter at least
opened a blank document.

> In the case of crashes, install the package koffice-dbg to get a backtrace.
> Read more at:
> http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Debugging/How_to_create_useful_crash_reportss

As I said, it was just out of curiosity. So, apologies! I do not use
koffice and I don't see myself using it in foreseeable future. In
fact, I don't see myself running squeeze either! So, I'll refrain from
this :(

Even if it gets included, I just hope there is a disclaimer, very
easily visible to the end user [*,**], that kword, kspread (and may be
kpresenter) are at best pre-alpha quality softwares! I understand that
a lot of work has gone into krita (and karbon) so it is worth
including koffice just for these.

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[*] not the README in deb!
[**] I wonder how many "end-users" actually use koffice? It almost
seems like a parallel universe.


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Re: KOffice 2.2.0 available for general consumption

2010-05-29 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 02:07:58PM -0400, kap4lin wrote:
> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Ana Guerrero  wrote:
> >
> > KOffice 2.2.0 is available for amd64 & i386 from the semi-official 
> > repository
> > at: http://qt-kde.debian.net/
> >
> > It is still to be decided if KOffice 2.2.0 will make it into Squeeze, I am
> > currently inclined to do so. However, it is not yet fully decided and I 
> > would
> > love some well argumented feedback. Take into consideration some apps are 
> > more
> > mature than others.
> 
> Out of curiosity, I installed koffice on a spare Virtualbox VM
> (Debian/sid - sidux). The VM itself is kept updated.
> 
> Both kword and kspread crashed (repeatedly & deterministically) when
> trying to open new blank document! Karbon, Krita, Kpresenter at least
> opened a blank document.
> 
> > In the case of crashes, install the package koffice-dbg to get a backtrace.
> > Read more at:
> > http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Debugging/How_to_create_useful_crash_reportss
> 
> As I said, it was just out of curiosity. So, apologies! I do not use
> koffice and I don't see myself using it in foreseeable future. In
> fact, I don't see myself running squeeze either! So, I'll refrain from
> this :(
> 
> Even if it gets included, I just hope there is a disclaimer, very
> easily visible to the end user [*,**], that kword, kspread (and may be
> kpresenter) are at best pre-alpha quality softwares! I understand that
> a lot of work has gone into krita (and karbon) so it is worth
> including koffice just for these.
>

Sorry but I do not see the point of reporting here it crashes if you do not
try to check what is the problem, it might have been very well a problem in 
*your* system or a problem that is easily fixable.
kword, kspread open here a new document without problem, yes they crash from
time to time but not when you open a blank new document. Also, you are using 
sidux, AFAIK it should not be very far from Debian unstable but that packages 
are for a pure Debian unstable instalation (FWIW, they also fine in my netbook 
with testing).

Ana


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Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

2010-05-29 Thread Nicolas Alvarez
Xavier Brochard wrote:
> cobaco wrote:
> 
>> On Monday 10 May 2010, Valentin Pavlyuchenko wrote:
>>> Well, I have an issue that remained on my Debian system from KDE 4.3
>>> or even 4.2 (And I have it now in 4.4).
>>> It's a krunner freeze when typing (usually I got it when I mistype
>>> something). If I'm not alone, then it's definitely the bug that must be
>>> solved.
>> 
>> probably an issue with one of the krunner plugins, had a similar issue in
>> 4.3 till I disabled the one causing the problem (was a known bug in kde
>> bug tracking, but don't quite remember which one it was), try disabling
>> the plugins you don't need (in the alt+d2 dialog click the wrench and
>> disable the checkmarks before the ones you don't need)
> 
> One should add this in the kde faq!

Is there an up-to-date KDE FAQ?

The one that comes packaged and shown in KInfoCenter is ancient. It doesn't 
mention Plasma anywhere, explains how to configure aRTs, says Qt doesn't 
support GIF for patent reasons...

Strangely, the introduction says the latest stable version is 4.2.1, which 
shows it did get updated some time in the past five years. Of course that's 
still out of date (I have KDE 4.4), but I thought it'd mention 3.5...

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