KDE4 and root-tail
Hi all, I installed KDE4/experimental and I very impressed of it :) But, one of my favourite program seems to have trouble with KDE4, root-tail. I know that there is a setting in kde3 (allow programs in desktop window), but it is missing in KDE4. So, is there a chance to reactivate root-tail again? Thanks JeiBie -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
kopete - "Add Jingle voice support in Jabber plugin"
I found this bug in kde[1], and read the changelog of kopete, i saw this text (note that is to 3.5.5-1 and today is 3.5.9-1): [1]http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=111426 --- kdenetwork (4:3.5.5-1) unstable; urgency=low ... ... +++ Changes by Modestas Vainius: * Do not enable Jabber Jingle voice support for now. The reasons are: - 1. It is a very experimental feature. - 2. Internal libjingle does not compile. - 3. It needs to be ported to use the external libjingle that is available in Debian. ... --- So, i ask if we have some work in to integrate support to voice in kopete in a open protocol, like the jabber(xmpp). Thanks in advanced by some info about. Best Claudio -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
KDE4 Plasma Panel Behavior Change
Plasma was not updated to my knowledge, still using version on experimental. After a not-infrequent plasma crash while playing with widgets, the behavior of the panel changed from the Pager, panel icons/widgets on right half, menu and running windows on left half to all icons spaced evening through the whole length. Running (minimized) windows do not show up on the panel at all! which means they are really hiddent (alt/tab will find them, of course). How might I restore the regular behavior? Bug or feature? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [debian-kde] KDE4 Plasma Panel Behavior Change
Le Tuesday 27 May 2008 14:55:16 David Baron, vous avez écrit : > Plasma was not updated to my knowledge, still using version on > experimental. > > After a not-infrequent plasma crash while playing with widgets, the > behavior of the panel changed from the Pager, panel icons/widgets on right > half, menu and running windows on left half to all icons spaced > evening through the whole length. Running (minimized) windows do not show > up on the panel at all! which means they are really hiddent (alt/tab will > find them, of course). > > How might I restore the regular behavior? You can right-click on widgets and remove them (sometimes difficult) or add a new panel (right-cick on desktop) and then add widgets on it. It is sometimes faster to create a new user and copy the files in ~/.kde4/share/config/plamarc ~/.kde4/share/config/plama-appletsrc > Bug or feature? Bug! à bientôt, Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09 54 06 16 26 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE4 and root-tail
On Tuesday 27 May 2008, Jeibie H wrote: > Hi all, > > I installed KDE4/experimental and I very impressed of it :) > > But, one of my favourite program seems to have trouble with KDE4, > root-tail. I know that there is a setting in kde3 (allow programs in > desktop > window), but it > is missing in KDE4. > So, is there a chance to reactivate root-tail again? Good question! I am not sure if Plasma, which handles the root window in KDE4 has an option to not handle the root window and if not if this is planned. I suggest to ask on the panel-devel [1] list, which is used for development activity around Plasma. Cheers, Kevin [1] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/panel-devel signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
KDE4.080/74-1 Plasma
Has gotten worse, I am afraid. OK, the panel crashes are my fault, apparently from kde3 applets I am using. They did give such problems in the very old kde4 versions but have been just fine until today's upgrade. Also, that 0,-54 position of the panel is now showing up and maybe causing crashes as well. I will deal with that by hand, I suppose. Luckily, by /opt/kde3.5 is still around and I and other family users can run this without a hitch. This is really necessary when the new one is so volatile, almost snapshots rather than "milestones" or upgrades. I also tried the new kmail 4.074 which is actually based on an older version that the kde3.5.6! Looks fine but since it did not eat all the settings and canceled the sessions, I tried to reenter them. The configure kmail dialog is empty. So I removed kmail4.074 and my 3.5 kmail is still doing the job. I reentered the session info there or could have copied it from .kde. This one was yet not ready to post. Running kde3 again, it simply looks much nicer. Icon sizes and text labels work better, overall panel composition (ignoring the funny placements of the last couple of days) looks nicer. And the desktop functionality such as creating new device icons (and having them function) is still not there in kde4. All the resizing, rotations and other stuff is of limited value if one cannot get icon sizes and text labels to coordinate nicely. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE HAL mounting in etch: lets solve it
Right. Actually, I only care about the NTFS issue, since this is what is normally used in removable storage like USB HDD's. On 2008-05-11 13:11, Patrice Pillot wrote: > Hi, > > Dawn Light wrote: > > The ext3 partitions are succesfully mounted with no problems using kde, but > > the user doesn't get write permissions to them. > > That is quite natural (and most satisfactory, in any events) that users > who don't have sufficient permissions can't read some files on any ext3 > partition, be it permanently or temporarily mounted. Could you elaborate > a little bit on what you expect from the system about your user "getting > write permissions" ? > > Regards, > > pp > > -- Shachar Or | שחר אור http://ox.freeallweb.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE HAL mounting in etch: lets solve it
I will make a request or join one if this is an existing issue. Where should I look for the development of the linux kernel in this regard? On 2008-05-11 14:22, Paul Wise wrote: > On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 8:00 PM, Dawn Light <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The ext3 partitions are succesfully mounted with no problems using kde, but > > the user doesn't get write permissions to them. > > There does not appear to be a mount option to get the Linux kernel to > ignore the permissions on ext3 filesystems nor indicate that some > specific user should own all the files. The best you can do currently > is to run find -xdev | xargs chmod a+rwX as root over the filesystem > after mounting, or use another filesystem (adfs, affs, fat, vfat, hfs, > hpfs, ntfs support uid/gid options). The uid/gid options in the > FAT32/NTFS and other filesystems should really become common to all > Linux filesystems, perhaps you would like to persue getting this fixed > in upstream kernels? > > > http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise > > -- Shachar Or | שחר אור http://ox.freeallweb.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE4.080/74-1 Plasma
Hi, Tuesday 27 May 2008, David Baron ra: > OK, the panel crashes are my fault, apparently from kde3 applets I am > using. They did give such problems in the very old kde4 versions but have > been just fine until today's upgrade. Also, that 0,-54 position of the > panel is now showing up and maybe causing crashes as well. I will deal with > that by hand, I suppose. That might have be bad interaction of later kdelibs and earlier plasma. kdebase-workspace 4.0.80 has just been accepted, please retest tomorrow. However, still plasma is still sort of sensitive, treat it gently. > Luckily, by /opt/kde3.5 is still around and I and other family users can > run this without a hitch. This is really necessary when the new one is so > volatile, almost snapshots rather than "milestones" or upgrades. It's a milestone (KDE 4.1 Beta 1) expect plasma. > I also tried the new kmail 4.074 which is actually based on an older > version that the kde3.5.6! Looks fine but since it did not eat all the > settings and canceled the sessions, I tried to reenter them. The configure > kmail dialog is empty. Is empty how? No settings imported? You're right. However, in fact it's possible to migrate almost all settings from KDE3 kmail with some minor manual intervention. I don't know why you think kmail 4.0.74 is based on the old kmail from KDE3, because it actually has all the features and layout of kmail 3.5.9. What is more, current kmail4 is darn stable and overall I'm very very positively surprised by it's current state (not a single crash on my me, noticed just one real bug). It has such solid feel. > Running kde3 again, it simply looks much nicer. Icon sizes and text labels > work better, overall panel composition (ignoring the funny placements of > the last couple of days) looks nicer. And the desktop functionality such as > creating new device icons (and having them function) is still not there in > kde4. All the resizing, rotations and other stuff is of limited value if > one cannot get icon sizes and text labels to coordinate nicely. Well, plasma dashboard is completely different concept than conventional desktop. You can add a Folder View widget to simulate the old desktop. Your criticism about device icons might be right (drag and drop from dolphin does not work), but please post it to more general upstream KDE list or file a wishlist bug to upstream BTS. -- Modestas Vainius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: KDE4.080/74-1 Plasma
On Tuesday 27 May 2008 22:45:25 Modestas Vainius wrote: > Hi, > > Tuesday 27 May 2008, David Baron ra: > > OK, the panel crashes are my fault, apparently from kde3 applets I am > > using. They did give such problems in the very old kde4 versions but have > > been just fine until today's upgrade. Also, that 0,-54 position of the > > panel is now showing up and maybe causing crashes as well. I will deal > > with that by hand, I suppose. > > That might have be bad interaction of later kdelibs and earlier plasma. > kdebase-workspace 4.0.80 has just been accepted, please retest tomorrow. > However, still plasma is still sort of sensitive, treat it gently. Will give that a try. > > > Luckily, by /opt/kde3.5 is still around and I and other family users can > > run this without a hitch. This is really necessary when the new one is so > > volatile, almost snapshots rather than "milestones" or upgrades. > > It's a milestone (KDE 4.1 Beta 1) expect plasma. But ... plasma is central! Well, in a pinch, kicker will in fact run just fine (and in my dual set up, I need to exclude it from the session startup!) > > > I also tried the new kmail 4.074 which is actually based on an older > > version that the kde3.5.6! Looks fine but since it did not eat all the > > settings and canceled the sessions, I tried to reenter them. The > > configure kmail dialog is empty. > > Is empty how? No settings imported? You're right. However, in fact it's > possible to migrate almost all settings from KDE3 kmail with some minor > manual intervention. I don't know why you think kmail 4.0.74 is based on > the old kmail from KDE3, because it actually has all the features and > layout of kmail 3.5.9. What is more, current kmail4 is darn stable and > overall I'm very very positively surprised by it's current state (not a > single crash on my me, noticed just one real bug). It has such solid feel. 3.5.6 has kmail 1.9.6 4.074 has kmail 1.9.5 Of course these numbers might be entirely meaningless. 4.074 deleted the receive mail sessions and gave me no way to enter them again. I suppose I could edit them into the rc but they WERE there and got removed so editing might not help. Everything else came in just fine, if I did not want to receive any mail, very solid :-) > > > Running kde3 again, it simply looks much nicer. Icon sizes and text > > labels work better, overall panel composition (ignoring the funny > > placements of the last couple of days) looks nicer. And the desktop > > functionality such as creating new device icons (and having them > > function) is still not there in kde4. All the resizing, rotations and > > other stuff is of limited value if one cannot get icon sizes and text > > labels to coordinate nicely. > > Well, plasma dashboard is completely different concept than conventional > desktop. You can add a Folder View widget to simulate the old desktop. Your > criticism about device icons might be right (drag and drop from dolphin > does not work), but please post it to more general upstream KDE list or > file a wishlist bug to upstream BTS. May do that. The older desktop functionality is needed. Device-icons already there from kde3 show neither the mounted or unmounted icon. There is no refresh and changes it does facilitate are not displayed until something, anything, forces it. Desktop->properties->apply can do it. Getting an application icon (drag from menus) does not work correctly and the only way I can do it is manually copy a preexisting one and hand edit it. Just what is the concept of the plasma dashboard? What is it supposed to do, hopefully better, prettier and more effectively than the older concept (which most folks were used to from any of the other wms? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE4.080/74-1 Plasma
Hi, Tuesday 27 May 2008, David Baron ra: > But ... plasma is central! Well, in a pinch, kicker will in fact run just > fine (and in my dual set up, I need to exclude it from the session > startup!) I'm not saying that kicker is not good at its job. But it's becoming obsolete very quickly. I agree with you that plasma is not quite "there" yet, but it is in usable state for daily tasks if you keep its sensitivity in mind. Hey, there are still two months till KDE 4.1 release! > 3.5.6 has kmail 1.9.6 > 4.074 has kmail 1.9.5 No, it's 1.9.51 (as in fifty)!. > 4.074 deleted the receive mail sessions and gave me no way to enter them > again. I suppose I could edit them into the rc but they WERE there and got > removed so editing might not help. Indeed, that's interesting of yours. I don't remember having this problem. Now I'm running a bit later revision though. Btw, if you want to import settings, copy kmailrc, emailidentitiesrc (or something similar), apps/kmail from ~/.kde to ~/.kde4 and run (with kmail off) $ /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/kconf_update /usr/share/kde4/apps/kconf_update/kmail.upd kmail recieves mails just fine, but currently it strips non-ASCII characters when saving and sending mails (the bug I mentioned in my previous mail). > May do that. The older desktop functionality is needed. Device-icons > already there from kde3 show neither the mounted or unmounted icon. There > is no refresh and changes it does facilitate are not displayed until > something, anything, forces it. Well, I agree that desktop icons are somewhat unfinished yet. They are too small, text is almost unreadable, but contrary to KDE 4, they are runable. > Desktop->properties->apply can do it. It's minor stuff and will probably fixed for final release. Neither does desktop theme change take effect until you resize the panel. > Getting an application icon (drag from menus) does not work correctly I have not tested, but: mart * r813469 workspace/trunk/KDE/kdebase/workspace/plasma/applets/icon/icon.cpp: creation of icons applets by drag and drop works again > and > the only way I can do it is manually copy a preexisting one and hand edit > it. Just what is the concept of the plasma dashboard? What is it supposed > to do, hopefully better, prettier and more effectively than the older > concept (which most folks were used to from any of the other wms? Well, it's more than a "desktop". As far as I understand, dashboard icons are not real files or anything, they are just plasmoids which are just links to the some stuff (defined in ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma-appletsrc). They do not seem to be desktop icons since they do not disappear when you delete a file from ~/Desktop (or it's another bug). Overall, plasmoid can be anything which in theory gives you more freedom but might be annoying at first. -- Modestas Vainius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: KDE HAL mounting in etch: lets solve it
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 2:57 AM, Dawn Light <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I will make a request or join one if this is an existing issue. Where should I > look for the development of the linux kernel in this regard? The Linux mailing lists should be linked from the upstream website: http://kernel.org Here is the FAQ for the list: http://kernel.org/pub/linux/docs/lkml/ Unofficial archives are here: http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/ -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
