Video under Linux - mess and frustration
My few cents... Playing video under Linux is a frustrating experience. There is a bunch of players available - mplayer, Kaffeine, KPlayer, KMPlayer, Xine, Totem, Kaboodle, Noatun ... Each of them has its own problems: some support subtitles, some crash on some files, some freeze on seeking, some fail to produce sound, some suport some codecs, some require this framework to play some files, some work good with w32codecs some not ... There is an even larger pile of multimedia frameworks and audio/video sinks: alsa, oss, arts, gstreamer08/10, xine, xv, blah blah. Some codecs/players need this sink, some need another to play particluar video/sound, some have terrible fonts, some need magic to be able to place subtitles to black band, some need manual configuration of cryptic config files ... At the end of the day one finds himself using one player/frameork/sink for AVI from digital camera, another one for divX movies and another one for WMV streams because no single player player/framework/sink can play/sound/subtitle them all. - My suggestion is: Let us create ONE fully featured media player with ONE multimedia backend/framework. Let this player be part of the KDE/Gnome project to prevent orphaning and underdevelopment (like Kaffeine). Let there be no or very limited configuration choices concerning frameworks/sinks/blh... otherwise it will never work. > -Original Message- > From: Fathi BOUDRA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 12:34 AM > To: debian-kde@lists.debian.org > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Riku Voipio; Anders E. Andersen > Subject: Re: Kaffeine Reloaded > > Le Jeudi 23 Mars 2006 21:46, Riku Voipio a écrit : > > On Thu, Mar 23, 2006 at 08:47:08AM +0100, Anders E. Andersen wrote: > > > Well, the kaffeine team is gearing up for a 0.8 release soon, > > > haven't tested it myself yet, but I am hearing good > things about it. > > > > > > The debian situation is still the same as far as I know. > Maintainer > > > is MIA. > > google is your friend ;) > > so zack, about kaffeine maintenance options : > 1) riku continue maintainance > 2) put it in kde extras team > > we're waiting for your reply :) > > cheers, > > Fathi > >
Re: Video under Linux - mess and frustration
Žáček Kryštof skrev: My few cents... Playing video under Linux is a frustrating experience. There is a bunch of players available - mplayer, Kaffeine, KPlayer, KMPlayer, Xine, Totem, Kaboodle, Noatun ... One thing is that one size does in this case not fit all. Kaffeine (with xine backend!) is best at video and DVB. amaroK is best at being a jukebox (and it supports xine as backend!! I like xine, can you tell?).. Well and that's about it I think. This is all you need. Anders PS.. Xine.. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kaffeine Reloaded
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Fathi BOUDRA wrote: > Le Jeudi 23 Mars 2006 21:46, Riku Voipio a �crit�: >> On Thu, Mar 23, 2006 at 08:47:08AM +0100, Anders E. Andersen wrote: >>> Well, the kaffeine team is gearing up for a 0.8 release soon, haven't >>> tested it myself yet, but I am hearing good things about it. >>> >>> The debian situation is still the same as far as I know. Maintainer is >>> MIA. > > google is your friend ;) > > so zack, about kaffeine maintenance options : > 1) riku continue maintainance > 2) put it in kde extras team OK, first I'd like to apologize to everyone about the state of Kaffeine maintenance. It comes down to a lack of time, considering my other commitments, and a general failure to keep people in the loop. Now, for various reasons (like this one) I've started to believe it's not the best idea to have just one person in charge of maintaining most packages - - so I'd vote for option 2. But, if Riku feels that he's up for taking it over, that's fine also. Thanks, Zack -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEJDL3pkwJUpqL4j8RAvMTAJ4xFpIN1Erp/4igdmC1LewQhzIz4wCfbMWQ k1EUUpmCxhq5hxnzgrFyZNE= =Y2g+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Video under Linux - mess and frustration [OT]
Žáček Kryštof schrieb: ... Playing video under Linux is a frustrating experience. There is a bunch of players available - mplayer, Kaffeine, KPlayer, KMPlayer, Xine, Totem, Kaboodle, Noatun ... ... My suggestion is: Let us create ONE fully featured media player with ONE multimedia backend/framework... I also find that some players play some videos, and others others. The best solution I have come across is GeeXbox. This is OT here, as has little to do with Debian or KDE, although there is a Debian package for generating GeeXbox. It is a very small live CD with a small Linux OS und Mplayer and all required codecs, certainly some unfree ones. It plays almost everything as far as I can see and although no DVD-Nav like Xine, has a super OSD which even allows switching languages and subtitles while the videos are playing. Theo Schmidt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
