Re: KDE 3.5.0 final packages now on alioth

[Gunter Ohrner]

Josh Metzler wrote:
> dialog, open settings for the incoming account, and say ok.  It will
> rebuild your folder list with the folders as subfolders of inbox.  Then
> things should work.  Kmail crashed for me consistently until I did this.

kMail crashed immediately when trying to fetch new mail from my imap server
until i deleted it's folder indizes from ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/imap.
Actually I deleted this whole directory so I also lost folder sorting
information etc. It now seems to work however, this si something which
should be automated or alternatively very well documented, otherwise it
will cause tons of unneccessary bug reports.

Greetings,

  Gunter

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Re: KDE 3.5.0 final packages now on alioth

[Gunter Ohrner]

Christopher Martin wrote:
> [Please follow-up to debian-kde@lists.debian.org only. Thanks.]

> Please report problems by mailing debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org only, not
> filing a bug report. 

???

Ok, I'll then try to report the most serious problem I found on both lists.
f'up2 gmane.linux.debian.devel.qt-kde.

Using the new KDE packages, Xinerama support in kDesktop und Kicker seems to
be completely messed up while it works fine in kwin.

All desktop icons and all of Kicker's control bars only appear on the
primary monitor. Desktop icons which previously where on a different
monitor or are dragged to another monitor just end up being on the first /
primary one.

Kicker's control bars which where configured to sit on other monitors simply
disappeared completely, including the external task list. Only the control
bars on the first monitor are shown and work as expected.

I updated to Debian's KDE 3.4.3 before, so my system passed the C++
allocator transition cleanly. Using KDE 3.4.3 everything worked as
expected, just as it did with KDE 3.4.2 before the transition.

System is Debian SID, AMD64. Updated yetserday, verified that everything
worked, then updated to the experimental KDE 3.5 packages.

Greetings,

  Gunter

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Re: KDE 3.5.0 final packages now on alioth

[Gunter Ohrner]

Gunter Ohrner wrote:
> lists. f'up2 gmane.linux.debian.devel.qt-kde.

Mh, f'up2 doesn't seem to work to well with GMANE. :-(
What's the right ML to post followups to these problems?

> All desktop icons and all of Kicker's control bars only appear on the
> primary monitor. Desktop icons which previously where on a different
> monitor or are dragged to another monitor just end up being on the first /
> primary one.

Ok, this is KDE bug https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116341, so no
packaging problem.

> Kicker's control bars which where configured to sit on other monitors
> simply disappeared completely, including the external task list. Only the
> control bars on the first monitor are shown and work as expected.

I misinterpreted the symptoms: It's kicker's autohide which doesn't work any
more for me. Panels set to autohide will hide just fine but won't reappear
if moving to their location with the mouse cursor.

Greetings,

  Gunter

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Re: KDE 3.5.0 final packages now on alioth

[Jean-Damien Durand]

I have another box with 3.4.3 that I can update, and I will perhaps (!)
have the kmail/kontact crashes with the imap account. But I cannot predict
of course, so:
Before doing the upgrade, what correct action can I take to help you, in case 
this is
an unreported bug? I plan to:
- keep a copy of my complete old .kde/share/apps/kmail/imap (let's say 
imap343.tar)
- do the upgrade
- if kmail/kontact crashes then:
  - keep copy of the backtrace(s) [I remember having two different backtraces 
on the
1st box]
  - keep copy of the new .kde/share/apps/kmail/imap (let's say imap350crash.tar)
  - delete my current ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/imap
  - Restart kmail/kontact, so that it will regenerate my imap folder,
and verify that there is no more any crash - tarball it to imap350ok.tar
  - redelete my current ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/imap
  - copy back again imap343.tar to ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/imap
  - verify it is reproducible
  - fill a bug report with links on the web for imap*.tar
- if it does not crash, mince alors...

Does it sound reasonable?

My problem is that it is not clear from bugs.kde.org if the crashes issues we 
have with
kontact/kmail starting on an 3.4.3's imap are reported.

Thanks, Cheers, JD.

PS: Why, in the backtrace, do I see often lines with no symbol? A missing 
debug-lib?

On Sunday 11 December 2005 12:02, Gunter Ohrner wrote:
GO > kMail crashed immediately when trying to fetch new mail from my imap server
GO > until i deleted it's folder indizes from ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/imap.
GO > 


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Re: KDE 3.5.0 final packages now on alioth

[Gunter Ohrner]

Jean-Damien Durand wrote:
> Does it sound reasonable?

I'd say yes.

> PS: Why, in the backtrace, do I see often lines with no symbol? A missing
> debug-lib?

Stripped binaries, you'll need to recompile the relevant applications in
debug mode to get more meaningful backtraces.

Greetings,

  Gunter

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Re: KDE 3.5.0 final packages now on alioth

[Alejandro Exojo]

El Domingo, 11 de Diciembre de 2005 15:55, Gunter Ohrner escribió:
> > PS: Why, in the backtrace, do I see often lines with no symbol? A missing
> > debug-lib?
>
> Stripped binaries, you'll need to recompile the relevant applications in
> debug mode to get more meaningful backtraces.

I think is enough installing the debugging packages:

[16:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ aptitude search '^k.*-dbg'
p   kdeaccessibility-dbg- debugging symbols for kdeaccessibility
p   kdeaddons-dbg   - debugging symbols for kdeaddons
p   kdeadmin-dbg- debugging symbols for kdeadmin
p   kdeartwork-dbg  - debugging symbols for kdeartwork
p   kdebase-dbg - debugging symbols for kdebase
p   kdegraphics-dbg - debugging symbols for kdegraphics
p   kdelibs-dbg - debugging symbols for kdelibs
p   kdelibs4c2a-dbg - debugging symbols for kdelibs4c2a
p   kdemultimedia-dbg   - debugging symbols for kdemultimedia
p   kdenetwork-dbg  - debugging symbols for kdenetwork
p   kdesdk-dbg  - debugging symbols for kdesdk
p   kdetoys-dbg - debugging symbols for kdetoys
p   kdeutils-dbg- debugging symbols for kdeutils
p   kdewebdev-dbg   - debugging symbols for kdewebdev

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Re: sound support under KDE

[Charles de Miramon]

Matej Cepl wrote:


> 1) Are they? I mean is arts dead or going to die soon?

Yes, arts is dead because is main developper left and nobody understands the
stuff. Is in maintainance state.

 
> URLs for some documents explaining this mess would be more than welcome as
> well.

http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Multimedia+API+Talk

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Re: KDE 3.5.0 final packages now on alioth

[Jean-Damien Durand]

Very disappointing for me, very good for you: no pb up to now on that second 
box!

I know I have the backtraces of the crashes of the 1st box, but nothing
else unfortunately. I'll check again if all packages were really well ugpraded,
and will post a bug report if that is true - cannot do more unfortunately -;
Apologizes.

I hope others will not forget to backup their .kde (I should have know!) before
the upgrade, if that can be usefull, who knows.

Thanks, Cheers, JD.

On Sunday 11 December 2005 15:55, Gunter Ohrner wrote:
GO > Jean-Damien Durand wrote:
GO > > Does it sound reasonable?
GO > 
GO > I'd say yes.
GO > 
GO > > PS: Why, in the backtrace, do I see often lines with no symbol? A missing
GO > > debug-lib?
GO > 
GO > Stripped binaries, you'll need to recompile the relevant applications in
GO > debug mode to get more meaningful backtraces.
GO > 
GO > Greetings,
GO > 
GO >   Gunter
GO > 
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Re: sound support under KDE

[Gunter Ohrner]

Matej Cepl wrote:
> 3) Any other suggestions what is the most simple working set of tools
> (both for collection of tracks from my CDs as well as for playing radio
> streams over the Internet) with packages from the main Debian repository?

amaroK is a rather good solution.

Greetings,

  Gunter

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Re: KDE 3.5.0 final packages now on alioth

[Gunter Ohrner]

Alejandro Exojo wrote:
>> Stripped binaries, you'll need to recompile the relevant applications in
> I think is enough installing the debugging packages:

Ok, that may suffice.

Greetings,

  Gunter

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Re: c++ allocator transition status

[Georg Prager]

On Thursday 08 December 2005 13:35, EmIscA wrote:
> This list is only to give a little overview of the transition status.
>
Don't forget kimdaba!



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Re: c++ allocator transition status

[Adeodato Simó]

* Georg Prager [Sun, 11 Dec 2005 22:41:27 +0100]:

> On Thursday 08 December 2005 13:35, EmIscA wrote:
> > This list is only to give a little overview of the transition status.

> Don't forget kimdaba!

  You'll find it in today's mirror pulse. In fact, as of today's mirror
  pulse, only the following packages depend on kdelibs4c2 on i386:

digikam
digikamimageplugins
plptools

  (will get rebuilt soon)

gambas
potracegui

  (have build failures that will have to be investigated)

labplot

  (needs transitioned libvtk4-dev)

  Cheers,

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Re: c++ allocator transition status

[Curt Howland]

On Sunday 11 December 2005 16:41, Georg Prager was heard to say:
> Don't forget kimdaba!

Checking just now, and digikam, kigikamimage, ksocrat, kimdaba, 
showimg, celestia, kipi-plugins, superkaramba and tellico are all 
listed for removal based on dependency of kdelibs4c2.

I guess I'll wait a few more days.

Ok, not digikam, that's something to do with libkipi0c2 conflicting 
with libkipi0. Like I could tell the difference in the dark, ne?

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Re: c++ allocator transition status

[Jan De Luyck]

On Sunday 11 December 2005 23:08, Curt Howland wrote:
> Checking just now, and digikam, kigikamimage, ksocrat, kimdaba,
> showimg, celestia, kipi-plugins, superkaramba and tellico are all
> listed for removal based on dependency of kdelibs4c2.
>
> I guess I'll wait a few more days.

Well, you can always get the source and recompile it yourself. That's what I 
did for digikam, kipi-plugins, digikamimageplugins and tellico.

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Re: KDE 3.5.0 final packages now on alioth

[Jean-Damien Durand]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=118161

Not reproduced on a 2nd box.

Cheers, JD.

On Saturday 10 December 2005 10:03, Jean-Damien Durand wrote:
> kontact crashing until I deleted my
> ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/imap 


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